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Hi all,

Now that the holidays are behind us, let me again put in a pitch for the PBC

conference. We all ask each other questions and some of us have more answers

than others and most of us can't get 10 minutes worth of time from our

doctors. And when we do we forget the answer as soon as we leave the office

......

Let me say that the experts in our field of liver disease will be at the PBC

Conference. The PBCers have set aside time for the AIH/PSC folks with one of

the experts. Imagine sitting in a room with one of the leading experts in the

country and having him answer your questions. Last year I was overwhelmed

with the doctors who attended and they are there to answer our questions. Do

whatever you can to attend this conference. Get the answers to your questions

from the experts. It was the best $$ I have ever spent.

The information on the conference is below. Additional informating including

speakers, etc is available at their website. Hope to see lots of AIHers

there.!!!

Rick (AIH)

PBC CONFERENCE 2001 FEES

PBC Conference June 20 - 23, 2001

Flamingo Hilton, Las Vegas Nevada

Conference fee $130 per person.

We will start collecting the PBC Conference 2001 fees after the first of the

year. Those who have already sent in their fees I have put them aside until

after the holidays when I will start posting. If you sent an e-mail address

with your conference fee you will receive a receipt.

The $130 conference fees covers all our speakers meetings, groups segments,

group meals (lunch Thursday, Friday & Saturday. Dinner banquet Saturday.

Coffee/tea during meetings). Send conference fees to PBCers Organization,

1430 Garden Rd., Pearland, Tx 77581

Speaker's presentations will not begin until Thursday. Registration & PBCers

Ice Breaker is Wednesday.

There will be separate PSC/AIH and family member/friend segments.

PBCers Hotel Room Rate: $85.00 per night (tax not included)

Group rate is for double or single occupancy.

Our group rate is available Monday, June 18 through Sunday, June 24, 2001.

No Saturday arrivals.

Our group rate and block of rooms will be available through May 24, 2001

After May 24th, all reservations will be booked at the standard Flamingo

rate, subject to availability. Everyone must book their own reservations.

When making your reservations ask for the " PBCers Group Rate " from our block

of reserved rooms. (Rooms also available for guests with special needs.)

Please call: 1-800-835-5686, 1-800-732-2111, 1-702-733-3111

Room reservations fax number 1-702-733-3353

Even though, we do have our block of rooms available at the Flamingo, if you

prefer to stay at another hotel that is your option.

Please visit our website at http://pbcers.org for complete conference

information.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

PBCers 2001 Challenge

PBC: Fund for the Cure

We are challenging all PBCers to make a donation.......

Please help......this is for all of US!

Contributions are tax-deductible and may be sent to:

A. Vertrees

6902 Vandermark Rd. E.

Sumner, Wa. 98390

or for information please contact me at plymbl@....

Make checks & money orders payable to PBCers Organization

Thanks for caring!

Anne

In a message dated 1/8/01 6:08:19 AM Pacific Standard Time,

egroups writes:

<< Message: 2

Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 01:25:07 -0000

From: " Patty O, AIH, So. Calif. " <PATTYANNOBRIEN@...>

Subject: Response to Autoimmune liver disease

Can

> anyone tell me if the condition is progressive, even

> if I am responding to medication. If your enzymes are

> staying in the normal ranges will my liver still

> continue to worsen, maybe to the point of having to

> have a transplant later on.

Trishia, >>

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Hi Shireen, I'm 41 and I checked with my OBGYN abou pre-menopause, but I'm

not there yet. Once I got off the Prednisone my night sweats stopped, so it

was obviously just that, plus my doc said that AIH cause night sweats also.

thanks for your advice.

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I think you're very lucky to have such a talented

friend who thought of you and made you such a

wonderful gift. It was from the heart. As such,

perhaps it is imbued with love and good wishes and

good thoughts and all kinds of positive images. They

work wonders. Wave your magic wand proudly.

Dianne

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In a message dated 9/8/2002 7:39:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, writes:

Subject: Mold Remediation/vapor barrier

So, a status report regarding our icemaker that broke and flooded our

condo. I've talked about this before, but this happened on date of

escrow in January and we are still not living in the condo!

It would seem that this would have had to have gone on longer than just one day?

Can I ask any of you who have had a waterloss and then mold

remediation some questions: We are now at a standstill because the

condo with adjoining wall also has mold because our condo flooded into

theirs! They were unconcerned before but the owner is now on 3

inhalers and now is very concerned. Their condo has been tested for

mold and they are to do their condo and also finish up some unfinished

areas in ours. (Would you believe that our condo PASSED their

clearance testing?)

As stated now, Air Test can be inconclusive. To totally rely on Air Test, can be dangerous. Experienced persons will rely more on what is visual and address these issues. Knowledge of Building Science is very import. Not mold remediation as the only qualification.

This was very upsetting to me as they knew that the back of their wallboard had visible mold 1 1/2 feet up the

wall. They said they cleaned it and would see how testing came back.

I said if you could clean wall board then why did they take out all my

wallboard up 4 feet? (I have nothing left, kitchen and bathroom are

gutted, all walls gone up 4 feet, and garage is gutted.)

So, why would they leave that common wallboard, and then the mold

testing company passed it!

My experience has shown that in some cases the Remediation Companies are not qualified. They then hire a testing company (exhorbenant rates) to justify exhorbenant remediation cost. Are the Remediation Companies qualified? Are the Certified Experts qualified in the Science of Building to write a report on remediation?

However, as I said they are now realizing they have to take down

their wall board too. Another question: how do you do two condos? Do

we put up our wallboard and then do their mold remediation? Then

spores get on our wallboard? Or do we do theirs and then come back in

and do air scrubbers in ours? Also put up plastic inside the wall?

Here is a good example. Wall board should have been removed from both sides and wood framing members, even with NO visible mold in these areas they should have been treated with a fungal inhibitor.

Here is another headache. The vapor barrier in our kitchen has

become tatters. It is only thin paper which is treated. (Evidently

this vapor barrier is on outside walls to keep the stucco from

leaching in water.) To add to the complication the kitchen wall is

the back of the neighbor's patio. They have a loose flower bed up

against the wall which they will have to move. Get rid of flower bed. 3 feet from house to be safe. NOTHING AGAINST STUCCO.

So, now there are two issues. The mold testing and mold remediation company think vapor barrier is

not to be touched under any circumstances. This is clear proof that the TWO may not no what they are talking about. To remove the stucco and reinstall the Vapor Retarder is not a big deal. Simply follow industry standards for the removal and patching of stucco. They admit that it is

obviously moldy. But, said. "You can button up the wall and then take

down the wall from the outside to replace the vapor barrier because

that ist he only way to replace vapor barrier. They don't touch vapor

barriers under any circumstances! Doesn't that sound ridiculous? I

said I do not want to put up new wallboard and insulation against

moldy, moldy vapor barrier. Also, NO ONE has said that they will

replace that outside wall. They are still considering the best way to

deal with it. Put a sealant on the stucco outside. sigh Then the issue

is who will pay for it, insurance company, neighbor, Homeowner's

association. So, now the neighbor is probably upset with me.

Does anyone know of a site that lays out info on what a mold

remediation company does in some of these situations? The problem is that none exist. Mold is being used by some professionals and remediators as a GET RICH QUICK SCAM. What should you

expect from a mold remediation company? I would hire only a licensed General Contractor who is experienced in mold/water restoration. Not the low bid carpet cleaner that your insurance company may want to hire. Also up front, it should be spelled out that results of all testing will be shared with you as the owner. I am upset because they

refused to put into writing that that common wall had visible mold on

it. They would tell me verbally, but not in writing. They also didn't

take pictures, and didn't give me any reports on their progress. Only

that they did hepa vacuum, sanding etc. Nothing about what they saw.

Thanks for your insight into any of this.

Arlene

I have gone into to investigate Mold Remediation and in many cases found it to be a scam, being justified by a certified specialist. I have found scrubbers turned on (no exterior vent). Drywall that should have been removed on both sides of a wall, not. Framing members that should have been treated with a mold inhibitor, NOT. I call this Show & Tell. They SHOW you a machine and TELL you a lot of what they are going to do, but don't.

There needs to be some standards set up. 99% of the mold problems that I find I can attribute to poor quality building. Building is a Science. It has to be followed.

,

lin Associates

Construction Consultants

Construction & Environmental Investigations

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