Guest guest Posted September 1, 2002 Report Share Posted September 1, 2002 , What is Niosh? I am a federal worker very sick from a toxic mold building. Do you mean like outsiode OSHA besides on the shipyard? It would be Government OSHA? I am trying everything. Eveen lawyers as I live in two rooms now have asthma and cant go outsidee and wear a 3m mask..Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2002 Report Share Posted September 1, 2002 Has anyone that has been affected by a work place (sick building) exposure contacted NIOSH? Did you get any help? Does any one know of any doctors in NY that will actually state that this is a real problem? Please let me know- Thank you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2002 Report Share Posted September 2, 2002 Janet, Hi- NIOSH stands for National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health. It seems from its' website that it is connected to the CDC. I'm not sure how they might be related to OSHA. They do air quality testing and they were mentioned in the articles from Connecticut because they are doing a study on sick building symptoms. The articles have been posted at this site today. I work for a state agency and am getting the runaround too. Please feel free to email me at madeskv@.... Take care, > , > What is Niosh? I am a federal worker very sick from a toxic mold building. > Do you mean like outsiode OSHA besides on the shipyard? It would be > Government OSHA? I am trying everything. Eveen lawyers as I live in two rooms > now have asthma and cant go outsidee and wear a 3m mask..Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2002 Report Share Posted September 2, 2002 I contacted NIOSH asking if it had performed any inspections on the " Sick Building " in DC. The building in question is the Nassif Building, located at 400 7th St SW, in Washington, DC. This 1.3 million sq ft building was the HQ for the Department of Transportation. I was surprised to find out, that NO it had not! Thus, the Problem. Our country is not actively inspecting buildings. The investors in these buildings, including the Government, are turning a blind eye to the problem. Again, economics is most important to these investors - they consider people expendable. I have been in a fight to save my sanity since having spent 2 and 1/2 years in the cauldron. I contacted NIOSH, OSHA, EPA, and my senator from Kansas, trying to get answers. I meet with the same thing. No organization, no supposed organization - for that purpose, or for that matter, no one will listen, or even admit to the possibility of a problem. We have the tools to test for these contaminants, and when used, they are very effective in not only detecting them, but also in quantifying them. In many cases, such as the Nassif Building, these instruments will show very high levels of contaminants. At this point, all responsible parties ban together, and go into their " deaf and blind mode. " They will argue that there is no proof that a problem even exists. They claim that there is no scientific evidence that points to mold or an other contaminant, as a problem, that might affect our health. However, when they are finally forced to inspect these so-called safe buildings, they go into them in level 5 biological suits. They must know something that we don't. We are only the tip of the Ice Berg. This contamination that is affecting the world at the present time, is only taking the more susceptible and affecting them. In a few years, it will start taking the so-called healthy people also. Will these agencies act then? Who knows. We use many of the contaminants that are found in mass in these buildings as pesticides, and they are in most cases very effective. The Iraq government used the Aspergillus fungus to produce the toxic poison that killed the Kurds. They are harmful! At Nassif, as with many other sick buildings, there are numerous contaminants that are mixed into the indoor environments. The owners and investors will argue that not enough research has been performed in order to point fingers. That, we do not know enough about the affects of multiple contaminants to say that a building is dangerous to our health. At most, all you will get from these agencies is " Lip-Service, " if even that! We are on our own for the time being. The Plague is coming in the not to distant future. Larry N. McQuarie, Sr. >From: " madeskv " <madeskv@...> >Reply- > >Subject: [] NIOSH >Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 21:24:20 -0000 > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Has anyone that has been affected by a work place (sick building) exposure contacted NIOSH? Did you get any help? Does any one know of any doctors in NY that will actually state that this is a real problem? Please let me know- Thank you, FAIR USE NOTICE: This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2002 Report Share Posted September 2, 2002 Dear KC, I am sorry to hear about this. I work for the government and am very sick myself. No one wants to admit to anything. IOts terrible. Mine is from stachy and Aspergillus and Phoma and Fusarium and many more. I fight workmans comp, have been to lawyers, called senators...I send my best to youur wife. I now have asthma, not much lung capacity and wear a 3m mask evrywhere. Especially outside as ground mold dirt smell overwhelms me. I am told at shipyaard if I call outside OSH that it could hurt my chances with workmans comp which has already breen bungled, lied about and put off. No one understands. They think you are crazy. Blood tests, xrays..had them all. I never saw them, I was just told they were normal. I went public in the Newspaper hoping to help educate. Channel 9 news here wanted to interview me but backed down at last minute. I am sure Shipyard told them to back off when they called there. I have damning evidence and no one dares to talk to me. It is awfull.My best to you...Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2002 Report Share Posted September 2, 2002 Larry, Thank you for the info- it is exactly what I was afraid of. They put the foxes in charge of the hen house. > I contacted NIOSH asking if it had performed any inspections on the " Sick > Building " in DC. The building in question is the Nassif Building, located > at 400 7th St SW, in Washington, DC. This 1.3 million sq ft building was > the HQ for the Department of Transportation. I was surprised to find out, > that NO it had not! Thus, the Problem. > > Our country is not actively inspecting buildings. The investors in these > buildings, including the Government, are turning a blind eye to the problem. > Again, economics is most important to these investors - they consider > people expendable. > > I have been in a fight to save my sanity since having spent 2 and 1/2 years > in the cauldron. I contacted NIOSH, OSHA, EPA, and my senator from Kansas, > trying to get answers. I meet with the same thing. No organization, no > supposed organization - for that purpose, or for that matter, no one will > listen, or even admit to the possibility of a problem. > > We have the tools to test for these contaminants, and when used, they are > very effective in not only detecting them, but also in quantifying them. In > many cases, such as the Nassif Building, these instruments will show very > high levels of contaminants. At this point, all responsible parties ban > together, and go into their " deaf and blind mode. " They will argue that > there is no proof that a problem even exists. > > They claim that there is no scientific evidence that points to mold or an > other contaminant, as a problem, that might affect our health. However, > when they are finally forced to inspect these so-called safe buildings, they > go into them in level 5 biological suits. They must know something that we > don't. > > We are only the tip of the Ice Berg. This contamination that is affecting > the world at the present time, is only taking the more susceptible and > affecting them. In a few years, it will start taking the so-called healthy > people also. Will these agencies act then? Who knows. > > We use many of the contaminants that are found in mass in these buildings as > pesticides, and they are in most cases very effective. The Iraq government > used the Aspergillus fungus to produce the toxic poison that killed the > Kurds. They are harmful! > > At Nassif, as with many other sick buildings, there are numerous > contaminants that are mixed into the indoor environments. The owners and > investors will argue that not enough research has been performed in order to > point fingers. That, we do not know enough about the affects of multiple > contaminants to say that a building is dangerous to our health. > > At most, all you will get from these agencies is " Lip-Service, " if even > that! We are on our own for the time being. The Plague is coming in the > not to distant future. > > Larry N. McQuarie, Sr. > > > > > >From: " madeskv " <madeskv@y...> > >Reply-@y... > >@y... > >Subject: [] NIOSH > >Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 21:24:20 -0000 > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2002 Report Share Posted September 2, 2002 Thank you for the info- it certainly seems that we are all in the same boat and receiving the same runaround- > > Has anyone that has been affected by a work place (sick building) > > exposure contacted NIOSH? Did you get any help? Does any one know > of > > any doctors in NY that will actually state that this is a real > > problem? Please let me know- > > Thank you, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 Your story sounds like mine, kind of, I to work for The Department of Transportation here in Tallahassee, Fla. I work in a sick building. What's funny is they have had two Indoor air quality/moisture intrusion confirmatory investigation's done the 1st one was bad so they let the owner of the building try and clean it up, with the employee's still sitting at there desk. well then they had the second study done and came back worse than the first one. My Doctor wrote a letter requesting me to be moved out of the building ASAP! they did this was back in May. well there still is another 114 people in that building now. I got sick for a few months with sinus infections etc. I then had to have spinal cord surger to put a shunt in a syrinx I developed out of the blue. (rare) no reason for me to have this. I think it is from the fungal contamination etc. Anyway I called NIOSH my self and they said that if it is a government building then they can do nothing. Well the building belongs to a private person so I went and got a lawyer and I have a claim against worker's comp and the owner of the building. Go get a lawyer and have your doctor right a letter to remove you from the building temp. then later on he will do one saying you will never return to that building. Good luck. Donna in Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: madeskv Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 2:59 PM Subject: [] Re: NIOSH Larry,Thank you for the info- it is exactly what I was afraid of. They put the foxes in charge of the hen house. > I contacted NIOSH asking if it had performed any inspections on the "Sick > Building" in DC. The building in question is the Nassif Building, located > at 400 7th St SW, in Washington, DC. This 1.3 million sq ft building was > the HQ for the Department of Transportation. I was surprised to find out, > that NO it had not! Thus, the Problem.> > Our country is not actively inspecting buildings. The investors in these > buildings, including the Government, are turning a blind eye to the problem. > Again, economics is most important to these investors - they consider > people expendable.> > I have been in a fight to save my sanity since having spent 2 and 1/2 years > in the cauldron. I contacted NIOSH, OSHA, EPA, and my senator from Kansas, > trying to get answers. I meet with the same thing. No organization, no > supposed organization - for that purpose, or for that matter, no one will > listen, or even admit to the possibility of a problem.> > We have the tools to test for these contaminants, and when used, they are > very effective in not only detecting them, but also in quantifying them. In > many cases, such as the Nassif Building, these instruments will show very > high levels of contaminants. At this point, all responsible parties ban > together, and go into their "deaf and blind mode." They will argue that > there is no proof that a problem even exists.> > They claim that there is no scientific evidence that points to mold or an > other contaminant, as a problem, that might affect our health. However, > when they are finally forced to inspect these so-called safe buildings, they > go into them in level 5 biological suits. They must know something that we > don't.> > We are only the tip of the Ice Berg. This contamination that is affecting > the world at the present time, is only taking the more susceptible and > affecting them. In a few years, it will start taking the so-called healthy > people also. Will these agencies act then? Who knows.> > We use many of the contaminants that are found in mass in these buildings as > pesticides, and they are in most cases very effective. The Iraq government > used the Aspergillus fungus to produce the toxic poison that killed the > Kurds. They are harmful!> > At Nassif, as with many other sick buildings, there are numerous > contaminants that are mixed into the indoor environments. The owners and > investors will argue that not enough research has been performed in order to > point fingers. That, we do not know enough about the affects of multiple > contaminants to say that a building is dangerous to our health.> > At most, all you will get from these agencies is "Lip-Service," if even > that! We are on our own for the time being. The Plague is coming in the > not to distant future.> > Larry N. McQuarie, Sr.> > > > > >From: "madeskv" <madeskv@y...>> >Reply-@y...> >@y...> >Subject: [] NIOSH> >Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 21:24:20 -0000> >> > > > > _________________________________________________________________> Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.comFAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. 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Guest guest Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 Several letters have been written complaining about lack of response from NIOSH. Don't be too quick to criticize until you understand what NIOSH is. It is not an enforcement agency. Workplace health enforcement is policed by OSHA. NIOSH is the research organization which studies work related health issues and makes recommendations for regulations that OSHA can then enforce. NIOSH has researched several sick buildings, and continues to do so. But there are far more sick buildings than necessary for research purposes, and far more than can be researched by NIOSH's limited staff. So, they will likely not research your building. There are IAQ recommendations on the NIOSH web site, including an on-line book: " Indoor Air Quality: a Guide for Building Owners and Facility Managers. " NIOSH has made indoor bioaerosol air quality regulation recommendations, which were overturned a few years ago by congress, due to industry lobbying. OSHA cannot regulate non-existent regulations. Instead of complaining about NIOSH, complain to your congressman, urging that recommended IAQ bioaerosol regulations be implemented. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2002 Report Share Posted September 4, 2002 The federal legislation that would have established standards for in- door health for workers, was given the boot by the existing president during January of this year. If you remember the early cold war era when, there were fears of nuclear fall out; the three branchs of government built extensive fall out shelters or themselves and their families. The premisis is democarcy would not survive if it's three branches fails to operate. I fails to recognize the will of the people, (we the people) want to be provided the same work conditions as the top leaders. The OSHA group does not have authority if laws are not written to support their investigations, and the cdc does not develop the link. It took one deposition to confirm what we all know about (not the plant tobacco) the cigarette. How much money has been spent by the government bringing the industry before congress. The good thing about our democarcy is the thruth rings like the liberty bell. You know it when we hear it. We may be patriots, we may be crazy, but we want the truth. We know who's life and liberty depends upon it. > > Several letters have been written complaining about lack of response from > NIOSH. Don't be too quick to criticize until you understand what NIOSH is. > It is not an enforcement agency. Workplace health enforcement is policed by > OSHA. NIOSH is the research organization which studies work related health > issues and makes recommendations for regulations that OSHA can then enforce. > NIOSH has researched several sick buildings, and continues to do so. But > there are far more sick buildings than necessary for research purposes, and > far more than can be researched by NIOSH's limited staff. So, they will > likely not research your building. There are IAQ recommendations on the > NIOSH web site, including an on-line book: " Indoor Air Quality: a Guide for > Building Owners and Facility Managers. " NIOSH has made indoor bioaerosol air > quality regulation recommendations, which were overturned a few years ago by > congress, due to industry lobbying. OSHA cannot regulate non- existent > regulations. Instead of complaining about NIOSH, complain to your > congressman, urging that recommended IAQ bioaerosol regulations be > implemented. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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