Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Armyguy, My Arimidex comes in plastic square bottle from AstraZeneca...30 1 mg pills. OR eon GayMan Arimidex question Quick question on Arimidex. Does anyone know why there is one pill in each packet that says " take this pill last " , is it a placebo or something? Armyguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Mine came in a bottle from the pharmacy with no differentiation on which one to take. Are you sure they are not birth control pills! ;0 (actually I have heard some bodybuilders take birth control pills to lower their T so they can get legal steroids.). > Armyguy, > > My Arimidex comes in plastic square bottle from AstraZeneca...30 1 mg pills. > > OR eon > GayMan > > Arimidex question > > Quick question on Arimidex. > > Does anyone know why there is one pill in each packet that > says " take this pill last " , is it a placebo or something? > > Armyguy > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Armyguy, That was my first reaction. It sounded more like birth control. The arimidex I used came in a blister pack with each pill individually sealed with a foil backing. They are very small. y > > Armyguy, > > > > My Arimidex comes in plastic square bottle from AstraZeneca...30 1 > mg pills. > > > > OR eon > > GayMan > > > > Arimidex question > > > > Quick question on Arimidex. > > > > Does anyone know why there is one pill in each packet that > > says " take this pill last " , is it a placebo or something? > > > > Armyguy > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Ok, ok, well, I can tell you, I am not using birth control pills! The arimidex I am taking also comes in a blister pack with each pill individually sealed with a foil backing. On the foil backing there is a day for each pill. Mon, Tues, etc. Then there is one pill that says " take this tablet last " I guess that is a similar set up for birth control pills, but these are arimidex. Each package contains 15 pills. 14 are named mon through sun and the 15th one says take tablet last. The box has two of these packs, so 30 pills in all. Just curious if the two that say " take this tablet last " are the same as the others... These arimidex are from Canada... Armyguy > > > Armyguy, > > > > > > My Arimidex comes in plastic square bottle from AstraZeneca...30 > 1 > > mg pills. > > > > > > OR eon > > > GayMan > > > > > > Arimidex question > > > > > > Quick question on Arimidex. > > > > > > Does anyone know why there is one pill in each packet that > > > says " take this pill last " , is it a placebo or something? > > > > > > Armyguy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 Armyguy, On my square plastic bottle from AstraZeneca states: AstraZeneca Pharmaceuticals LP Wilmington, DE 19850. Perhaps a Canadian company has a contractual agreement with AstraZeneca to Prepare Arimidex in blister packs. OR eon GayMan Arimidex question > > > > > > Quick question on Arimidex. > > > > > > Does anyone know why there is one pill in each packet that > > > says " take this pill last " , is it a placebo or something? > > > > > > Armyguy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:14:17 -0000, you wrote: >I guess that is a similar set up for birth control pills, but these >are arimidex. Each package contains 15 pills. 14 are named mon >through sun and the 15th one says take tablet last. The box has two >of these packs, so 30 pills in all. Just curious if the two that >say " take this tablet last " are the same as the others... These >arimidex are from Canada... I'd guess then the packaging is just a measure to keep track of if you've taken it that day or not (to avoid forgetful double dosing.) And they want to make sure you start the package in the right direction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 20:20:51 -0000, you wrote: >Is anybody using Arimidex in addition to your hormones ? I need to >have my doctor increase the amount of Androgel due to the fact that >that the dosage is not high enough. He is afraid that my >gynocomastia will get worse. I was on too high of a dose awhile ago >and I started getting some swelling. This is a problem from my >former doctor. Does Arimidex help this problem ? If so I need to >find out how much I need to take so that I can tell him on 6/14 when >I see him. I am not sure if thi si something that he is aware of. >Also are any other steriods better then Androgel at avoding this >problem ? > >Thanks, I'm taking it. After reading here, I started on 1 mg a day for the first week and then cut to 1/2 mg per day. For several weeks. This brought it down from 46 to 17. Several people here take it only once or twice a week at .5mg and do well. I cut back to every other day and started feeling symptoms again after a couple weeks. I've just returned to everyday. You'll have to test to find what works for you. It seems highly individualistic in results. But you have to be careful too. Going to low makes you feel crummy also and leads to bone loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Arimidex will do the trick. 1/2 pill a day for 3 weeks then 1/2 pill every two days and do blood test and go from there. Some guys get away with as little as 1/2 pill every 5 days once they have got it down. 1/2 pill every 2 days to start may work for you depending on where your blood level of estradiol is at right now. Would be helpful to know that. But answer is yes, up the dose of androgel and add arimidex and you will do a whole lot better. Note though, you can take too much arimidex and drive your estradiol too low, so keep it tested. A good way to tell when you need it is if your nipples get hard, you can usually guess you are too high on estradiol and need a bit of arimidex. Armyguy > Hello, > > Is anybody using Arimidex in addition to your hormones ? I need to > have my doctor increase the amount of Androgel due to the fact that > that the dosage is not high enough. He is afraid that my > gynocomastia will get worse. I was on too high of a dose awhile ago > and I started getting some swelling. This is a problem from my > former doctor. Does Arimidex help this problem ? If so I need to > find out how much I need to take so that I can tell him on 6/14 when > I see him. I am not sure if thi si something that he is aware of. > Also are any other steriods better then Androgel at avoding this > problem ? > > Thanks, > > Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 ArmyGuy, Do you need to take Arimidex with doing your weekly T shots? Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 n8, I've been taking Arimidex just over 2 months. It's highly effective at keeping E2 down, in fact I've had to cut it back a little. It inhibits aromatase conversion of supplemental T to estrogens. Thus it not only keeps down estrogens, it also preserves the amount of supplemental T available to increase T levels. An article, " Aromatase inhibitors for male infertility. " from the Journal of Urology, may be of interest to your doctor: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db= PubMed & list_uids=11792932 & dopt=Abstract For your doctor's and your own information, you should get a lab work order at your 6/14 appointment, to include AT LEAST serum T, free T and E2. You will especially need this as a baseline if Arimidex is added. Considering your gynocomastia, E2 can be predicted to be high. Further, I would guess that the ratio of serum T to E2 will be low. You may already need estrogen management at your current Androgel dose. It MIGHT be that Arimidex can reduce the need for increasing Androgel. If the dose needs to be increased you already know your gynocomastia (hence estrogens) can be expected to get worse. More doctors are realizing (too slowly) that estrogen management must be part of T supplementation. I hope your doctor becomes one of these. Dosage varies from person to person, and usually has to be adjusted, monitoring blood levels. I started Arimidex 1mg 2 times/wk, with E2 of 32, in conjunction with increased T supplementation. The doctor increased that to 3 times/wk, then when E2 was 15, dropped it back to 2 times/wk. Good luck, Bruce > Hello, > > Is anybody using Arimidex in addition to your hormones ? I need to > have my doctor increase the amount of Androgel due to the fact that > that the dosage is not high enough. He is afraid that my > gynocomastia will get worse. I was on too high of a dose awhile ago > and I started getting some swelling. This is a problem from my > former doctor. Does Arimidex help this problem ? If so I need to > find out how much I need to take so that I can tell him on 6/14 when > I see him. I am not sure if thi si something that he is aware of. > Also are any other steriods better then Androgel at avoding this > problem ? > > Thanks, > > Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Hi Dave K., I'm pretty sure it prevents T to Estradiol (E2) specifically. It does that by inhibiting the aromatase enzyme essential in the conversion. IMO you're E2 is still too low. That's based on my experience of going from 31 down to 15 pg/mL, and losing all sexual sensation in the process. For me it seemed like it took a lot longer to get levels back up than to suppress them. I suggest taking neither Arimidex nor DIM for about 4-6 weeks. My E2 is back up enough to notice signs like nipple sensitivity. I think I was at a good level briefly, but then over shot it again. Ive been on DIM 120mg/day for about 10 days, some results seem to be kicking in. There's some further info. on the subject we discussed in messages around 10/14/04. Bruce > > Hi Folks > > Does Arimidex prevent the conversion of T to Estrogen in general, or > just estradiol? I took Arimidex from 9/25 to 10/15, taking only > 2.5mg total, and it drove my E2 from 49.3 to 15 (I was tested on > 10/15). I have yet to receive the testosterone results. Problem is, > while I was waiting for results, I continued to take .25mg every 3 > days until the 30th, so there's a good chance my E2 is too low. > > I began taking 60mg of DIM on 10/30 while discontinuing Arimidex > usage. I think it is too powerful, and I think it has lowered my sex > drive even more. I have no sensivity in my extremities. On the > positive side, my prostatitis is 90% cured and I had a big increase > in energy until recently (up until my E2 went too low I presume). > > I read somewhere that a man's body needs estrogen, just the right > mix of it. In my case, my body probably produces the right amount of > estrogen, but too much of it was E2. By using Arimidex, I think now > I'm producing too little estrogen, which is causing the sexual > problems. I'm not sure, and I thought I'd get some input from the > group before I take the next step. > > Thanks > > Dave K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Here is a cut and paste on how E2 drugs work from this site. http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459855 Phil Anastrozole (Arimidex) This drug is also used to treat breast cancer in post-menopausal women. It’s a very potent and selective inhibitor of aromatase activity and it’s the most effective of all the current aromatase inhibitors available on the market. Anastrozole can reduce estrogen to undetectable levels in men. It doesn’t have any effect on other enzymes because it’s so selective, thereby leaving hormones like cortisol, aldosterone, and thyroid at normal levels. One in vitro study compared the effectiveness of anastrozole to aminoglutethimide and formestane. Anastrozole was found to be 200 times more potent than aminoglutethimide and was more than three times more effective than formestane.(14) The superiority of anastrozole to formestane has also been demonstrated in vitro as well. Patients were given either 250 mg injections every two weeks with formestane or took a 1 mg tablet of anastrozole per day. Estrogen levels were measured after four weeks. Anastrozole reduced serum estradiol levels by 21% more than formestane. Estrone was reduced by 18% more with anastrozole. (15) So what about using this drug for an LH/Testosterone boost? In normal men, it was shown that 1 mg per day increased LH by 100% and Testosterone levels by 53-58%.(16,17) There’s been talk that this drug may lower estrogen levels too low and thus cause some adverse effects. One such effect would be an increase in LDL levels. However, the elevations that were seen were very small and thus wouldn’t be something to concern yourself with. Just remember that they’ve found little difference between using 1 mg or 10 mg, so the " more is better " approach doesn’t apply. If you wish to use this for estrogen suppression, try .5 to 1 mg per day. For an elevation of LH/Testosterone, try 1 mg per day. The cost of the drug is around $6.50 per tab. To sum things up, I’d like to give you a chart with a rating of each drug in a few categories. The rating range is from one to five with five being best. Gyno Protect. LH/Test (Up) Estrogen (Down) Cost Per Effective Unit Clomiphene3 5 * 5** Tamoxifen4 4 * 4 Raloxifene3 3 * 3 Testolactone4 2 4 1.5 Formestane4.5 2 4.5 1 Aminoglutethimide4 1 4 5 Anastrozole5 3.75 5 3.5 *These drugs prevent estrogen from binding but do not actually reduce the amount of estrogen production. **I realize that with this and every other drug on this list, the pharmacy and " street " prices will vary significantly. Knowing that clomiphene is so cheap on the black market, I had to give it a great cost rating. I’d also like to note that Arimidex isn’t that expensive when you consider how little you need for it to work. Bruce Harvey <bruceharvey@...> wrote: Hi Dave K., I'm pretty sure it prevents T to Estradiol (E2) specifically. It does that by inhibiting the aromatase enzyme essential in the conversion. IMO you're E2 is still too low. That's based on my experience of going from 31 down to 15 pg/mL, and losing all sexual sensation in the process. For me it seemed like it took a lot longer to get levels back up than to suppress them. I suggest taking neither Arimidex nor DIM for about 4-6 weeks. My E2 is back up enough to notice signs like nipple sensitivity. I think I was at a good level briefly, but then over shot it again. Ive been on DIM 120mg/day for about 10 days, some results seem to be kicking in. There's some further info. on the subject we discussed in messages around 10/14/04. Bruce > > Hi Folks > > Does Arimidex prevent the conversion of T to Estrogen in general, or > just estradiol? I took Arimidex from 9/25 to 10/15, taking only > 2.5mg total, and it drove my E2 from 49.3 to 15 (I was tested on > 10/15). I have yet to receive the testosterone results. Problem is, > while I was waiting for results, I continued to take .25mg every 3 > days until the 30th, so there's a good chance my E2 is too low. > > I began taking 60mg of DIM on 10/30 while discontinuing Arimidex > usage. I think it is too powerful, and I think it has lowered my sex > drive even more. I have no sensivity in my extremities. On the > positive side, my prostatitis is 90% cured and I had a big increase > in energy until recently (up until my E2 went too low I presume). > > I read somewhere that a man's body needs estrogen, just the right > mix of it. In my case, my body probably produces the right amount of > estrogen, but too much of it was E2. By using Arimidex, I think now > I'm producing too little estrogen, which is causing the sexual > problems. I'm not sure, and I thought I'd get some input from the > group before I take the next step. > > Thanks > > Dave K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Dave, My opinion, I think you should hold off on DIM as well, until your E2 gets higher again. Also get your DHT checked if you plan on using DIM > > Hi Folks > > Does Arimidex prevent the conversion of T to Estrogen in general, or > just estradiol? I took Arimidex from 9/25 to 10/15, taking only > 2.5mg total, and it drove my E2 from 49.3 to 15 (I was tested on > 10/15). I have yet to receive the testosterone results. Problem is, > while I was waiting for results, I continued to take .25mg every 3 > days until the 30th, so there's a good chance my E2 is too low. > > I began taking 60mg of DIM on 10/30 while discontinuing Arimidex > usage. I think it is too powerful, and I think it has lowered my sex > drive even more. I have no sensivity in my extremities. On the > positive side, my prostatitis is 90% cured and I had a big increase > in energy until recently (up until my E2 went too low I presume). > > I read somewhere that a man's body needs estrogen, just the right > mix of it. In my case, my body probably produces the right amount of > estrogen, but too much of it was E2. By using Arimidex, I think now > I'm producing too little estrogen, which is causing the sexual > problems. I'm not sure, and I thought I'd get some input from the > group before I take the next step. > > Thanks > > Dave K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 > Question? If you use Indolplex with DIM. How > many pills a day would be best to take. I suggest you take one 120 mg pill a day (after dinner) for 3 weeks. If possible, get before and after blood tests for T (total & free), and E2. If, during the three week period, you start to see clinical improvements (stronger erections, more energy, etc.), that means it's working for you. If you see these improvements and then a few days later you start to experience a decline, lower your dosage. The window of optimum dosage is very small and difficult to find. If you don't feel any improvement after 3 weeks and your blood tests indicate moderate or no decline in E2, increase the dosage up to two 120 mg pills per day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Thanks for the advice, guys. I'm going to hold off on any further E2 treatments until my levels go up again. I get tested again in less than 4 weeks. In the meantime I'm trying to take off some weight (I'm 6ft 230lbs but athletic) to see if that helps some. My body responded immensely to the small doses of Arimidex in such a short time so figuring out the dosage is going to be tough... Dave K. > > > > Hi Folks > > > > Does Arimidex prevent the conversion of T to Estrogen in general, > or > > just estradiol? I took Arimidex from 9/25 to 10/15, taking only > > 2.5mg total, and it drove my E2 from 49.3 to 15 (I was tested on > > 10/15). I have yet to receive the testosterone results. Problem is, > > while I was waiting for results, I continued to take .25mg every 3 > > days until the 30th, so there's a good chance my E2 is too low. > > > > I began taking 60mg of DIM on 10/30 while discontinuing Arimidex > > usage. I think it is too powerful, and I think it has lowered my > sex > > drive even more. I have no sensivity in my extremities. On the > > positive side, my prostatitis is 90% cured and I had a big increase > > in energy until recently (up until my E2 went too low I presume). > > > > I read somewhere that a man's body needs estrogen, just the right > > mix of it. In my case, my body probably produces the right amount > of > > estrogen, but too much of it was E2. By using Arimidex, I think now > > I'm producing too little estrogen, which is causing the sexual > > problems. I'm not sure, and I thought I'd get some input from the > > group before I take the next step. > > > > Thanks > > > > Dave K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Dave, Im wondering, if your using DIM would you be able to raise T levels. Reason Im asking is, DIM doesn't block the conversation of T to E2, but it converts E2 to weaker forms of Estrogen. So you would have more estrogens in the body, would that still inhibit the feedback loop. It would be interesting to know. > > > > > > Hi Folks > > > > > > Does Arimidex prevent the conversion of T to Estrogen in general, > > or > > > just estradiol? I took Arimidex from 9/25 to 10/15, taking only > > > 2.5mg total, and it drove my E2 from 49.3 to 15 (I was tested on > > > 10/15). I have yet to receive the testosterone results. Problem > is, > > > while I was waiting for results, I continued to take .25mg every > 3 > > > days until the 30th, so there's a good chance my E2 is too low. > > > > > > I began taking 60mg of DIM on 10/30 while discontinuing Arimidex > > > usage. I think it is too powerful, and I think it has lowered my > > sex > > > drive even more. I have no sensivity in my extremities. On the > > > positive side, my prostatitis is 90% cured and I had a big > increase > > > in energy until recently (up until my E2 went too low I presume). > > > > > > I read somewhere that a man's body needs estrogen, just the right > > > mix of it. In my case, my body probably produces the right amount > > of > > > estrogen, but too much of it was E2. By using Arimidex, I think > now > > > I'm producing too little estrogen, which is causing the sexual > > > problems. I'm not sure, and I thought I'd get some input from the > > > group before I take the next step. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Dave K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 I don't know the answer to that question. I'm guessing it does raise T, but I won't know until I try it and get tested a month or so later. I always thought that when E2 is high, your pituitary is tricked into thinking it has enough T, so LH is reduced. I don't know if it matters how many total estrogens you have. The thing I'm wondering is, was my total estrogen level too high, which created the high E2, or is my total estrogen level normal but too much of it is E2. I'm guessing the latter, which would mean DIM would work better for me. I wonder if it would help to get total estrogens checked. Maybe the Arimidex is lowering my total estrogen too much. Complicated topic!! Dave K. > > > > > > > > Hi Folks > > > > > > > > Does Arimidex prevent the conversion of T to Estrogen in > general, > > > or > > > > just estradiol? I took Arimidex from 9/25 to 10/15, taking only > > > > 2.5mg total, and it drove my E2 from 49.3 to 15 (I was tested > on > > > > 10/15). I have yet to receive the testosterone results. Problem > > is, > > > > while I was waiting for results, I continued to take .25mg > every > > 3 > > > > days until the 30th, so there's a good chance my E2 is too low. > > > > > > > > I began taking 60mg of DIM on 10/30 while discontinuing > Arimidex > > > > usage. I think it is too powerful, and I think it has lowered > my > > > sex > > > > drive even more. I have no sensivity in my extremities. On the > > > > positive side, my prostatitis is 90% cured and I had a big > > increase > > > > in energy until recently (up until my E2 went too low I > presume). > > > > > > > > I read somewhere that a man's body needs estrogen, just the > right > > > > mix of it. In my case, my body probably produces the right > amount > > > of > > > > estrogen, but too much of it was E2. By using Arimidex, I think > > now > > > > I'm producing too little estrogen, which is causing the sexual > > > > problems. I'm not sure, and I thought I'd get some input from > the > > > > group before I take the next step. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Dave K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 > Im wondering, if your using DIM would you be able to raise T levels. > > Reason Im asking is, DIM doesn't block the conversation of T to E2, > but it converts E2 to weaker forms of Estrogen. So you would have > more estrogens in the body, would that still inhibit the feedback > loop. > > It would be interesting to know. E2 affects the feedback loop. The other estrogens don't. That's my understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 If you read back to the first of this year Oreon God bless him posted his blood tests using arimidex. He said that he did not get his Total E checked any more but I can't remember why. But if DIM lowers your E2 then yes in most cases your T will go up. I did notice a change in my Total E when trying DIM the wrong kind it did lower it but it was very high. It went from 348 down to 312 range <200. And did nothing to my E2. Phil -- In , " dkrzyzek " <dkrzyzek@y...> wrote: > > > > I don't know the answer to that question. I'm guessing it does raise > T, but I won't know until I try it and get tested a month or so > later. I always thought that when E2 is high, your pituitary is > tricked into thinking it has enough T, so LH is reduced. I don't know > if it matters how many total estrogens you have. > > The thing I'm wondering is, was my total estrogen level too high, > which created the high E2, or is my total estrogen level normal but > too much of it is E2. I'm guessing the latter, which would mean DIM > would work better for me. I wonder if it would help to get total > estrogens checked. Maybe the Arimidex is lowering my total estrogen > too much. > > Complicated topic!! > > Dave K. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Folks > > > > > > > > > > Does Arimidex prevent the conversion of T to Estrogen in > > general, > > > > or > > > > > just estradiol? I took Arimidex from 9/25 to 10/15, taking > only > > > > > 2.5mg total, and it drove my E2 from 49.3 to 15 (I was tested > > on > > > > > 10/15). I have yet to receive the testosterone results. > Problem > > > is, > > > > > while I was waiting for results, I continued to take .25mg > > every > > > 3 > > > > > days until the 30th, so there's a good chance my E2 is too > low. > > > > > > > > > > I began taking 60mg of DIM on 10/30 while discontinuing > > Arimidex > > > > > usage. I think it is too powerful, and I think it has lowered > > my > > > > sex > > > > > drive even more. I have no sensivity in my extremities. On > the > > > > > positive side, my prostatitis is 90% cured and I had a big > > > increase > > > > > in energy until recently (up until my E2 went too low I > > presume). > > > > > > > > > > I read somewhere that a man's body needs estrogen, just the > > right > > > > > mix of it. In my case, my body probably produces the right > > amount > > > > of > > > > > estrogen, but too much of it was E2. By using Arimidex, I > think > > > now > > > > > I'm producing too little estrogen, which is causing the > sexual > > > > > problems. I'm not sure, and I thought I'd get some input from > > the > > > > > group before I take the next step. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > Dave K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 To answer your original question, Arimidex inhibits aromatase, which normally converts testosterone to estradiol (E2) and androstenedione to estrone (E1). > > > Thanks for the advice, guys. I'm going to hold off on any further E2 > treatments until my levels go up again. I get tested again in less > than 4 weeks. In the meantime I'm trying to take off some weight > (I'm 6ft 230lbs but athletic) to see if that helps some. My body > responded immensely to the small doses of Arimidex in such a short > time so figuring out the dosage is going to be tough... > > Dave K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 What role in a man's body does estrone (E1) serve? Do I really want to reduce this as well? Dave K. > > > > > > Thanks for the advice, guys. I'm going to hold off on any further > E2 > > treatments until my levels go up again. I get tested again in less > > than 4 weeks. In the meantime I'm trying to take off some weight > > (I'm 6ft 230lbs but athletic) to see if that helps some. My body > > responded immensely to the small doses of Arimidex in such a short > > time so figuring out the dosage is going to be tough... > > > > Dave K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 > What role in a man's body does estrone (E1) serve? Do I really want > to reduce this as well? I'm not aware of any way that monitoring E1 can benefit your health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Z, Do you have any studies on this, I would be interested in comparing LH and FSH levels. I thot it was all Estrogens in the body which would provide the feedback loop.. Thx!! > > > Im wondering, if your using DIM would you be able to raise T levels. > > > > Reason Im asking is, DIM doesn't block the conversation of T to E2, > > but it converts E2 to weaker forms of Estrogen. So you would have > > more estrogens in the body, would that still inhibit the feedback > > loop. > > > > It would be interesting to know. > > E2 affects the feedback loop. The other estrogens don't. That's my > understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Hi, Is this about estrogen management without TRT? If a person has been on TRT for a while, wouldn't the feedback loop already be shut down? Bruce > > > > > Im wondering, if your using DIM would you be able to raise T > levels. > > > > > > Reason Im asking is, DIM doesn't block the conversation of T to > E2, > > > but it converts E2 to weaker forms of Estrogen. So you would have > > > more estrogens in the body, would that still inhibit the feedback > > > loop. > > > > > > It would be interesting to know. > > > > E2 affects the feedback loop. The other estrogens don't. That's my > > understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Hey Bruce - In my case, I'm not on TRT. My only problem is my E2 was too high causing sexual problems. Now my E2 is too low from ODing on Arimidex, and this has caused even worse sexual problems. Dave K. > > > > > > > Im wondering, if your using DIM would you be able to raise T > > levels. > > > > > > > > Reason Im asking is, DIM doesn't block the conversation of T to > > E2, > > > > but it converts E2 to weaker forms of Estrogen. So you would have > > > > more estrogens in the body, would that still inhibit the feedback > > > > loop. > > > > > > > > It would be interesting to know. > > > > > > E2 affects the feedback loop. The other estrogens don't. That's my > > > understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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