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Dave K,

I imagine it's not good for E1 to be either too high or too low, same as E2.

I found an interesting new article titled " SEX HORMONES IN THE MALE

BRAIN: IS THERE AN EFFECT ON COGNITION? " , with some interesting new

info on estrone, at: http://tinyurl.com/6euy7

Bruce

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> > >

> > > Thanks for the advice, guys. I'm going to hold off on any

> further

> > E2

> > > treatments until my levels go up again. I get tested again in

> less

> > > than 4 weeks. In the meantime I'm trying to take off some

> weight

> > > (I'm 6ft 230lbs but athletic) to see if that helps some. My

> body

> > > responded immensely to the small doses of Arimidex in such a

> short

> > > time so figuring out the dosage is going to be tough...

> > >

> > > Dave K.

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On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 07:42:47 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

>If you wish to use this for estrogen suppression, try .5 to 1 mg per day. For

an elevation of LH/Testosterone, try 1 mg per day. The cost of the drug is

around $6.50 per tab.

These levels are almost undoubtedly too high for men. I suspect these

are levels for women. Or short term levels.

..5 mg every other day dropped my levels so low in two to three weeks,

it was actually painful.

I've since tried .25 mg (1/4 of a 1mg tablet) every three days and

even that gets them too low. I'm now doing .25 every four days and I'm

waiting to get blood work, but the four days seems a little too long.

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  • 4 weeks later...

I dropped 8 lbs., possibly losing water weight from getting estrogens down.

Getting T, free T & E2 balanced seems to tighten up muscles and boost

metabolism, with easier weight loss..

Bruce

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> Did any of you notice a loss in fat after starting Arimidex?

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On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:36:05 -0800, you wrote:

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>Did any of you notice a loss in fat after starting Arimidex?

I lost about 5 pounds when I first started. It seems it was all water

weight. You've heard women talk of fluid retention?

After that it did nothing.

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Arimidex is expensive, but consider how much you use, like one quarter pill

every other day. Thats eight days, I pay about two bux a pill from India

Pharmco, for generic, which is about ten bux a month. But some meds from

India are not as strong as they are labeled, so it occasionally takes more.

But do consider the amount of med needed within a time frame to meet your

needs. But of course you do not know how much that will be at this point,

so perhaps more will respond and give you a middle of the road reference

point to anticipate the costs.

regards david

Arimidex question

> I've been considering Arimidex as an alternative in my therapy. I talked

> to my pharmacist yesterday and he informed me that Arimidex is extremely

> expensive. It is so expensive that I'm having a hard time considering it

> practical for use. Have any of you found this to be true?

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Thanks for the input. I see my doctor in a couple of weeks and I'll run this

past him. Since this appears to be a vegetarian product I may go ahead and try

it. I just want to smooth out a few bumps in the road. I don't need any major

adjustments.

From what I've read, after aromatase converts testosterone to estrogen,

estrogen competes with testosterone for receptors in the brain and hypothalamus

and can effect cognitive function. I wonder if this is what's happening when we

talk about the roller coaster ride symptoms?

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

I tell men to start try Indolplex/DIM first most do good at one half a

tablet if your going to try this get back to me.

http://www.ritecare.com/prodsheets/PHY-15336.html

This brand works but any brand that is Indolplex/DIM will work.

Norsworthy <norsworthy_david@...> wrote:

I've been considering Arimidex as an alternative in my therapy. I talked to my

pharmacist yesterday and he informed me that Arimidex is extremely expensive. It

is so expensive that I'm having a hard time considering it practical for use.

Have any of you found this to be true?

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Yes and no if your on TRT the cells can fill with Estradiol and this is the bad

guy Estradiol " E2 " try to use this word when talking about it or you end up with

the wrong treatment and tests. When the cells fill with E2 the brain thinks it

is testosterone because it can't tell the difference between them. So if on TRT

you can end up peeing most of your T meds down the drain. Not on TRT your brain

will think the high E2 is testosterone and stop sending the LH and FSH messages

to your testis to make more T. A lot of Dr.'s don't test for E2 and think when

seeing a test come back with low T and the LH and FSH are also low that the man

has a pituitary problem. And all he needs to do is get his E2 down and his

brain then will see T is low and send the LH and FSH messages to make more.

So if your on TRT high E2 is bad and if your not on TRT high E2 is bad.

Norsworthy <norsworthy_david@...> wrote:

Thanks for the input. I see my doctor in a couple of weeks and I'll

run this past him. Since this appears to be a vegetarian product I may go ahead

and try it. I just want to smooth out a few bumps in the road. I don't need any

major adjustments.

From what I've read, after aromatase converts testosterone to estrogen, estrogen

competes with testosterone for receptors in the brain and hypothalamus and can

effect cognitive function. I wonder if this is what's happening when we talk

about the roller coaster ride symptoms?

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

I tell men to start try Indolplex/DIM first most do good at one half a tablet if

your going to try this get back to me.

http://www.ritecare.com/prodsheets/PHY-15336.html

This brand works but any brand that is Indolplex/DIM will work.

Norsworthy <norsworthy_david@...> wrote:

I've been considering Arimidex as an alternative in my therapy. I talked to my

pharmacist yesterday and he informed me that Arimidex is extremely expensive. It

is so expensive that I'm having a hard time considering it practical for use.

Have any of you found this to be true?

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My pharmacist looked at the flyer from the web on this product. He said he was

familiar with this company and rated it very highly. I still want to let my

doctor look at it but I may go ahead and start taking it.

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: I tell men to start try

Indolplex/DIM first most do good at one half a tablet if your going to try this

get back to me.

http://www.ritecare.com/prodsheets/PHY-15336.html

This brand works but any brand that is Indolplex/DIM will work.

Norsworthy <norsworthy_david@...> wrote:

I've been considering Arimidex as an alternative in my therapy. I talked to my

pharmacist yesterday and he informed me that Arimidex is extremely expensive. It

is so expensive that I'm having a hard time considering it practical for use.

Have any of you found this to be true?

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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 04:38:44 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

>I've been considering Arimidex as an alternative in my therapy. I talked to my

pharmacist yesterday and he informed me that Arimidex is extremely expensive. It

is so expensive that I'm having a hard time considering it practical for use.

Have any of you found this to be true?

While it is very expensive, you don't use very much generally. I take

a quarter tablet 2 to 3 times a week. 30 tablets goes a long way at

that rate.

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I had initially taken HCG by itself and subsequently HCG together with

Arimidex.

I then came across a study which had the participants only

taking Arimidex in the hopes of elevating T levels. I stopped

using HCG for a few weeks and then I began taking Arimidex (0.5 mg)

daily for 21 straight days. I had my blood tests done and here are

the results:

Total T 740 (241-827)

SHBG 22 (8-48)

Estradiol <32

FSH 10.5 (1.6-8.0)

LH 5.4 (1.5-9.3)

Thanks

>

> >I've been considering Arimidex as an alternative in my therapy. I

talked to my pharmacist yesterday and he informed me that Arimidex is

extremely expensive. It is so expensive that I'm having a hard time

considering it practical for use. Have any of you found this to be true?

>

>

> While it is very expensive, you don't use very much generally. I take

> a quarter tablet 2 to 3 times a week. 30 tablets goes a long way at

> that rate.

>

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Well, it seems as if there are two options for us: To inhibit Aromatase

production or to metabolize Estridiol or Estrogen. This way the E doesn't

compete with T for T cell receptor sites throughout the brain, hypothalamus,

pituitary gland, prostate and other parts of the body. That's my best

speculation. Your numbers look pretty good. My numbers stink.

There's a natural alternative to metabolizing E. I ordered a bottle but it

hasn't arrived yet.

Dirk Bogarde <yorhus@...> wrote:

I had initially taken HCG by itself and subsequently HCG together with

Arimidex.

I then came across a study which had the participants only

taking Arimidex in the hopes of elevating T levels. I stopped

using HCG for a few weeks and then I began taking Arimidex (0.5 mg)

daily for 21 straight days. I had my blood tests done and here are

the results:

Total T 740 (241-827)

SHBG 22 (8-48)

Estradiol <32

FSH 10.5 (1.6-8.0)

LH 5.4 (1.5-9.3)

Thanks

>

> >I've been considering Arimidex as an alternative in my therapy. I

talked to my pharmacist yesterday and he informed me that Arimidex is

extremely expensive. It is so expensive that I'm having a hard time

considering it practical for use. Have any of you found this to be true?

>

>

> While it is very expensive, you don't use very much generally. I take

> a quarter tablet 2 to 3 times a week. 30 tablets goes a long way at

> that rate.

>

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> Quick question on Arimidex.

>

> Does anyone know why there is one pill in each packet that

> says " take this pill last " , is it a placebo or something?

>

> Armyguy

>

I have not seen the Armidex in blister packs. Mine come in a regular

perscription bottle from the pharmacy, same as any other meds.

Beware of the dosage perscribed by the Dr. Most do not know hot to

administer Arimidex to males and overdose. Mine started me at .5mg

per day which I thought would be too high and told him so. After two

weeks my E2 had gone from around a hundred to not detectable by the

test. After complaining to my Dr. he has dropped me to .5mg every

other day. I still believe that is going to be too high. I have no

natural production of Testosterone as both gonads have been removed.

I take .75cc of DepoTestosterone (Cyp) every week which is 150mg per

week. That has been maintaining my Total T in the 700 to 800 range.

With high E2, however, I may as well have been injecting saline

solution. I am trying to get my E2 to stabilize in the 15 to 25

range and feel that .5mg of Arimidex every third day or .25 every

other day will probably be sufficient. I have also considered front

loading the dosage to correspond with the peaks of the IM

Testosterone injection. The second and third day are peak periods.

Arimidex has a 48 hour half life so it will stick around in your

system for a while. Good Luck.

JLC

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I'll just add that some prescription meds slow the metabolization

of estradiol such as Prilosec and Nexium and I'd assume

every other proton inhibitor med for reflux, also. And certain

others drugs also came have this effect.

> >

> > >I've been considering Arimidex as an alternative in my therapy. I

> talked to my pharmacist yesterday and he informed me that Arimidex

is

> extremely expensive. It is so expensive that I'm having a hard time

> considering it practical for use. Have any of you found this to be

true?

> >

> >

> > While it is very expensive, you don't use very much generally. I

take

> > a quarter tablet 2 to 3 times a week. 30 tablets goes a long way

at

> > that rate.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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1/2 pill mon wed fri doe it for me.

Keeps the E2 10-20 & the T over 600 with T 100mg/wk injections.

> >

> > Quick question on Arimidex.

> >

> > Does anyone know why there is one pill in each packet that

> > says " take this pill last " , is it a placebo or something?

> >

> > Armyguy

> >

>

> I have not seen the Armidex in blister packs. Mine come in a

regular

> perscription bottle from the pharmacy, same as any other meds.

> Beware of the dosage perscribed by the Dr. Most do not know hot to

> administer Arimidex to males and overdose. Mine started me at .5mg

> per day which I thought would be too high and told him so. After

two

> weeks my E2 had gone from around a hundred to not detectable by the

> test. After complaining to my Dr. he has dropped me to .5mg every

> other day. I still believe that is going to be too high. I have

no

> natural production of Testosterone as both gonads have been

removed.

> I take .75cc of DepoTestosterone (Cyp) every week which is 150mg

per

> week. That has been maintaining my Total T in the 700 to 800

range.

> With high E2, however, I may as well have been injecting saline

> solution. I am trying to get my E2 to stabilize in the 15 to 25

> range and feel that .5mg of Arimidex every third day or .25 every

> other day will probably be sufficient. I have also considered

front

> loading the dosage to correspond with the peaks of the IM

> Testosterone injection. The second and third day are peak

periods.

> Arimidex has a 48 hour half life so it will stick around in your

> system for a while. Good Luck.

>

> JLC

>

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