Just came back from Endo. Test is 378 and gave me Clomid

[Guest guest]

My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough. This is

as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is this high.

It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of Clomid every

other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get the boys

pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding my apnea

etc....

[Guest guest]

I have been on 15 mg of clomid taken on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays since

April of this year. I have seen my total T go from the low 300 range to 988 on

my last blood 2 weeks ago. So yes, in theory, what you are taking might be

enough if you are truly secondary hypogonadic.

Just came back from Endo. Test is 378 and gave me

Clomid

My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough. This is

as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is this high.

It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of Clomid every

other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get the boys

pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding my apnea

etc....

[Guest guest]

I've been on Clomid for about 4 months now.

25mg/ eod gives me T around 960 (200 w/o meds).

So, his dosage seems resonaable to me.

To R D HANCHETTE, how to you measure 15mg?

It is a problem for me to since my Clomid is in 50mg pills.

> I have been on 15 mg of clomid taken on Mondays, Wednesdays, and

Fridays since April of this year. I have seen my total T go from the

low 300 range to 988 on my last blood 2 weeks ago. So yes, in

theory, what you are taking might be enough if you are truly

secondary hypogonadic.

> Just came back from Endo. Test is 378 and

gave me Clomid

>

>

> My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough. This

is

> as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is this

high.

> It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of Clomid

every

> other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get the

boys

> pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding my

apnea

> etc....

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Very easy, I don't measure out 15mg. The pills were prescribed in that dosage

amount because my Doctor estimated that would be all that would be required to

put my Total T level up into the 900 range.

Just came back from Endo. Test is 378 and

gave me Clomid

>

>

> My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough. This

is

> as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is this

high.

> It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of Clomid

every

> other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get the

boys

> pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding my

apnea

> etc....

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

15 mg Clomid pilss ? In the U.S. ? I never heard of that. Probably

easier (and cheaper) to cut the 50mg pills in 1/4's

> > I have been on 15 mg of clomid taken on Mondays, Wednesdays, and

> Fridays since April of this year. I have seen my total T go from the

> low 300 range to 988 on my last blood 2 weeks ago. So yes, in

> theory, what you are taking might be enough if you are truly

> secondary hypogonadic.

> > Just came back from Endo. Test is 378 and

> gave me Clomid

> >

> >

> > My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough. This

> is

> > as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is this

> high.

> > It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of Clomid

> every

> > other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get the

> boys

> > pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding my

> apnea

> > etc....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Jack,

How long did it take before you noticed a change? I am

excited about your numbers. It would be so nice to feel normal

again. Do you have all of the T supplemental effects such as

energy, increased libdo, lean body mass etc... ? Have you noticed

any wierd side effects? Thanks...

> I have been on 15 mg of clomid taken on Mondays, Wednesdays, and

Fridays since April of this year. I have seen my total T go from

the low 300 range to 988 on my last blood 2 weeks ago. So yes, in

theory, what you are taking might be enough if you are truly

secondary hypogonadic.

> Just came back from Endo. Test is 378

and gave me Clomid

>

>

> My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough. This

is

> as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is this

high.

> It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of Clomid

every

> other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get the

boys

> pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding my

apnea

> etc....

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I heard you could get specific dosages at a compounding pharmacy, but

you would need your doctor to specifically prescribe it.

> > > I have been on 15 mg of clomid taken on Mondays, Wednesdays,

and

> > Fridays since April of this year. I have seen my total T go

from the

> > low 300 range to 988 on my last blood 2 weeks ago. So yes, in

> > theory, what you are taking might be enough if you are truly

> > secondary hypogonadic.

> > > Just came back from Endo. Test is

378 and

> > gave me Clomid

> > >

> > >

> > > My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough.

This

> > is

> > > as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is

this

> > high.

> > > It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of

Clomid

> > every

> > > other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get

the

> > boys

> > > pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding

my

> > apnea

> > > etc....

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

That's alot of work to get 15mg when you can get ~ 12 mg by cutting

the pill in 1/4's. I didn't know Compounding pharmacies made pills to

order I thought it was just creams and injections. I would think it

would have to cost alot more as you can get generic Cloimd for about

$2.50 a pill for 50 mg

> > > > I have been on 15 mg of clomid taken on Mondays, Wednesdays,

> and

> > > Fridays since April of this year. I have seen my total T go

> from the

> > > low 300 range to 988 on my last blood 2 weeks ago. So yes, in

> > > theory, what you are taking might be enough if you are truly

> > > secondary hypogonadic.

> > > > Just came back from Endo. Test is

> 378 and

> > > gave me Clomid

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough.

> This

> > > is

> > > > as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is

> this

> > > high.

> > > > It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of

> Clomid

> > > every

> > > > other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get

> the

> > > boys

> > > > pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding

> my

> > > apnea

> > > > etc....

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I read that Clomid can cause problems with your optic nerve.

Apparently, women using the drug have experienced mini blood clots

that interferred with the flow of fluids (blood) to the nerve. Has

anyone experienced problems like that when taking Clomid?

> > I have been on 15 mg of clomid taken on Mondays, Wednesdays,

and

> Fridays since April of this year. I have seen my total T go

from the

> low 300 range to 988 on my last blood 2 weeks ago. So yes, in

> theory, what you are taking might be enough if you are truly

> secondary hypogonadic.

> > Just came back from Endo. Test is

378 and

> gave me Clomid

> >

> >

> > My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough.

This

> is

> > as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is

this

> high.

> > It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of Clomid

> every

> > other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get

the

> boys

> > pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding

my

> apnea

> > etc....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I too am excited. However, I thought I read that Clomid is a

synthetic estrogen. Has that caused anyone problems?

> > I have been on 15 mg of clomid taken on Mondays, Wednesdays, and

> Fridays since April of this year. I have seen my total T go from

> the low 300 range to 988 on my last blood 2 weeks ago. So yes, in

> theory, what you are taking might be enough if you are truly

> secondary hypogonadic.

> > Just came back from Endo. Test is 378

> and gave me Clomid

> >

> >

> > My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough.

This

> is

> > as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is this

> high.

> > It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of Clomid

> every

> > other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get

the

> boys

> > pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding my

> apnea

> > etc....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I also read a bodybuilding article indicating that taking both

Clomid and Novladex is a little better than just Clomid. What does

you doctor say?

> > I have been on 15 mg of clomid taken on Mondays, Wednesdays, and

> Fridays since April of this year. I have seen my total T go from

> the low 300 range to 988 on my last blood 2 weeks ago. So yes, in

> theory, what you are taking might be enough if you are truly

> secondary hypogonadic.

> > Just came back from Endo. Test is 378

> and gave me Clomid

> >

> >

> > My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough.

This

> is

> > as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is this

> high.

> > It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of Clomid

> every

> > other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get

the

> boys

> > pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding my

> apnea

> > etc....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

That is exactly how I obtained these pills. My Doctor requested this dosage

from a compounding pharmacy (in the U.S. and they are not all that expensive).

Just came back from Endo. Test is

378 and

> > gave me Clomid

> > >

> > >

> > > My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough.

This

> > is

> > > as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is

this

> > high.

> > > It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of

Clomid

> > every

> > > other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get

the

> > boys

> > > pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding

my

> > apnea

> > > etc....

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I have had no problems with estrogen.

Just came back from Endo. Test is 378

> and gave me Clomid

> >

> >

> > My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough.

This

> is

> > as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is this

> high.

> > It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of Clomid

> every

> > other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get

the

> boys

> > pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding my

> apnea

> > etc....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I am not familiar with Novladex and my Doctor has not mentioned it in connection

with the Clomid prescription.

Just came back from Endo. Test is 378

> and gave me Clomid

> >

> >

> > My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough.

This

> is

> > as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is this

> high.

> > It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of Clomid

> every

> > other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get

the

> boys

> > pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding my

> apnea

> > etc....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

So your pills are 'custom made' ? Where do you get them from?

BTW, isn't 900 range a bit to high?

> > I have been on 15 mg of clomid taken on Mondays, Wednesdays,

and

> Fridays since April of this year. I have seen my total T go from

the

> low 300 range to 988 on my last blood 2 weeks ago. So yes, in

> theory, what you are taking might be enough if you are truly

> secondary hypogonadic.

> > Just came back from Endo. Test is 378

and

> gave me Clomid

> >

> >

> > My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough.

This

> is

> > as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is this

> high.

> > It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of Clomid

> every

> > other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get

the

> boys

> > pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding my

> apnea

> > etc....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Now comes the bad news. I have not noticed any positive changes in the areas

most needed. My libido is nonexistent and I still experience a lot of fatigue

and depression. In theory having your own body produce good amounts of

testosterone instead of deriving it from external sources should be a good

thing. However, I have heard others on this board suggest that Clomid can make

your lab reports look great without delivering on the performance front. Still,

in my case there might be other factors at work. When I discussed my last lab

reports with my Doctor, the one area that jumped out as a potential problem was

my low DHEA level coupled with a high Cortisol level. He maintains that I will

not experience the benefits of the high testosterone level until I get the

cortisol level down. He is attributing the cortisol level to depression and

recommending that I go on depression meds, which I don't want to do. We both

agree that I am probably suffering from Adrenal Fatigue, which is another area

like hypogonadism that a lot of Doctors are in denial about and really don't

know how to treat. So once again, it is just easier to advise the patient to

start eating depression medication. I would appreciate any advice that this

knowledgeable group can offer. Thanks.

Just came back from Endo. Test is 378

and gave me Clomid

>

>

> My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough. This

is

> as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is this

high.

> It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of Clomid

every

> other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get the

boys

> pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding my

apnea

> etc....

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My experience with Clomid is a bit different.

When I was taking 25mg/eod and had T/E2 960/29, during the first

month I felt exactly as you are describing - no libido, spells of

fatigue and general not well being. Then I dropped my dose to

12.5mg/eod (T/E2 566/25) and after about 3 weeks felt much better -

libido was up, no fatigue attacks.

But I have to say that in no way I feel as good as I used to

before the whole ordeal.

> > I have been on 15 mg of clomid taken on Mondays, Wednesdays,

and

> Fridays since April of this year. I have seen my total T go from

> the low 300 range to 988 on my last blood 2 weeks ago. So yes,

in

> theory, what you are taking might be enough if you are truly

> secondary hypogonadic.

> > Just came back from Endo. Test is 378

> and gave me Clomid

> >

> >

> > My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough.

This

> is

> > as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is this

> high.

> > It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of Clomid

> every

> > other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get

the

> boys

> > pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding my

> apnea

> > etc....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I get them from a compounding pharmacy called The Medicine Shoppe and their

phone number is (610) 378-1396. I'll leave it to the more knowledgeable people

on this board to debate the issue as to whether the 900 range is too high or

not. I simply don't know. My Doctor has not expressed that concern when we

have gone over the lab reports together.

Just came back from Endo. Test is 378

and

> gave me Clomid

> >

> >

> > My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough.

This

> is

> > as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is this

> high.

> > It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of Clomid

> every

> > other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get

the

> boys

> > pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding my

> apnea

> > etc....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

What is your present situation? Are still taking Clomid or have you moved on to

a different treatment?

Just came back from Endo. Test is 378

> and gave me Clomid

> >

> >

> > My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough.

This

> is

> > as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is this

> high.

> > It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of Clomid

> every

> > other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get

the

> boys

> > pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding my

> apnea

> > etc....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I do not know any alternative. As far as I know Clomid is as close to

natural production of T as you can get with meds and I have no issue

with high E2. I've read about Nolvadex being better than Clomid but

have not tried it.

> > > I have been on 15 mg of clomid taken on Mondays,

Wednesdays,

> and

> > Fridays since April of this year. I have seen my total T go

from

> > the low 300 range to 988 on my last blood 2 weeks ago. So

yes,

> in

> > theory, what you are taking might be enough if you are truly

> > secondary hypogonadic.

> > > Just came back from Endo. Test is

378

> > and gave me Clomid

> > >

> > >

> > > My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not

enough.

> This

> > is

> > > as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is

this

> > high.

> > > It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of

Clomid

> > every

> > > other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to

get

> the

> > boys

> > > pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info

regarding my

> > apnea

> > > etc....

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

How much do you pay for the 15mg/Clomid pills at teh compounding Pharmacy

> > > > I have been on 15 mg of clomid taken on Mondays, Wednesdays,

> and

> > > Fridays since April of this year. I have seen my total T go

> from the

> > > low 300 range to 988 on my last blood 2 weeks ago. So yes, in

> > > theory, what you are taking might be enough if you are truly

> > > secondary hypogonadic.

> > > > Just came back from Endo. Test is

> 378 and

> > > gave me Clomid

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough.

> This

> > > is

> > > > as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is

> this

> > > high.

> > > > It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of

> Clomid

> > > every

> > > > other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get

> the

> > > boys

> > > > pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding

> my

> > > apnea

> > > > etc....

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Did you have your DHEA and Cortisol levels checked before you took

Clomid ? Clomid screws around with a few of my tests but they came

back to normal after I stopped the drug

> > I have been on 15 mg of clomid taken on Mondays, Wednesdays, and

> Fridays since April of this year. I have seen my total T go from

> the low 300 range to 988 on my last blood 2 weeks ago. So yes, in

> theory, what you are taking might be enough if you are truly

> secondary hypogonadic.

> > Just came back from Endo. Test is 378

> and gave me Clomid

> >

> >

> > My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough. This

> is

> > as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is this

> high.

> > It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of Clomid

> every

> > other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get the

> boys

> > pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding my

> apnea

> > etc....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I pay about $35 for a 30 pill supply which lasts quite a while considering I

only take 3 a week.

Just came back from Endo. Test is

> 378 and

> > > gave me Clomid

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough.

> This

> > > is

> > > > as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is

> this

> > > high.

> > > > It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of

> Clomid

> > > every

> > > > other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get

> the

> > > boys

> > > > pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding

> my

> > > apnea

> > > > etc....

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Yes, I discovered this problem with the DHEA before I started the clomid. The

Doctor that has me on the clomid also has prescribed a topical DHEA cream to

address the DHEA deficiency. It has not worked. In fact my DHEA has actually

gone down since using the cream and also taking 50 mg of DHEA orally. So go

figure. If anyone has any ideas in this whole area of DHEA deficiency as it

relates to adrenal fatigue I would love to hear them. Thanks.

Just came back from Endo. Test is 378

> and gave me Clomid

> >

> >

> > My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not enough. This

> is

> > as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is this

> high.

> > It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of Clomid

> every

> > other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get the

> boys

> > pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding my

> apnea

> > etc....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Get your thyroid levels checked also...NOT just TSH, but Free T3 and Free

T4, don't get T3-uptake, it's been replaced by Free T3, but labs still want

to do it for some reason.

> Re: Just came back from Endo. Test is

> 378 and gave me Clomid

>

> Now comes the bad news. I have not noticed any positive

> changes in the areas most needed. My libido is nonexistent

> and I still experience a lot of fatigue and depression. In

> theory having your own body produce good amounts of

> testosterone instead of deriving it from external sources

> should be a good thing. However, I have heard others on this

> board suggest that Clomid can make your lab reports look

> great without delivering on the performance front. Still, in

> my case there might be other factors at work. When I

> discussed my last lab reports with my Doctor, the one area

> that jumped out as a potential problem was my low DHEA level

> coupled with a high Cortisol level. He maintains that I will

> not experience the benefits of the high testosterone level

> until I get the cortisol level down. He is attributing the

> cortisol level to depression and recommending that I go on

> depression meds, which I don't want to do. We both agree

> that I am probably suffering from Adrenal Fatigue!

> , which is another area like hypogonadism that a lot of

> Doctors are in denial about and really don't know how to

> treat. So once again, it is just easier to advise the

> patient to start eating depression medication. I would

> appreciate any advice that this knowledgeable group can

> offer. Thanks.

> Just came back from Endo. Test is 378

> and gave me Clomid

> >

> >

> > My Endo says my T was 378 and says it is up but not

> enough. This

> is

> > as high as it has been in two years. Not sure why it is this

> high.

> > It is usually around 160's He started me on 25 mg of Clomid

> every

> > other day. Does anyone know if this will be enough to get the

> boys

> > pumping? Thanks for all the help and the info regarding my

> apnea

> > etc....

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >