Want to look more masculine

[Guest guest]

Hi guys, have not posted in a long time. I was diagnosed three years

ago at age 37. First specialist had trouble with insurance, second

said that because I wasn't treated when I was younger not much can be

done. Here I go again. Diagnosis secondary hypogonadism and I want to

look more masculine, have more muscle mass, and have facial hair! I

have none. I have never shaved for a man my age. Want to look my age

not like a high school boy. MRI negative, testosterisene 50 , LH is

low

FSH is low. Waiting results of AM cortisol, IGH , total testosterone

Today blood taken for prolatin. Antrogel 5 grams given. I been on

this before. Should I ask for 10 grams or 15 grams? First specialist

said HCG would give better results? My question when can I start to

see physical results? What should I ask for? This specialist asked

about sperm count. Should I be tested? If ok should I have sperm

stored? I do have a girlfriend. Any advise would be helpful.

Thanks lowt

[Guest guest]

" Diagnosis secondary hypogonadism and I want to look more masculine,

have more muscle mass, and have facial hair! I have none. I have never

shaved for a man my age. Want to look my age not like a high school

boy. "

I have secondary also and I definitely look masculine now, thanks

first to T replacement and then HCG. Way more muscle mass, a full

beard, alot of body hair everywhere. Subcutaneous fat shrank so veins

appeared just under my skin.

" Should I ask for 10 grams or 15 grams? First specialist said HCG

would give better results? "

I feel better on HCG than I ever did on T shots, gel, or patches. Read

what Zolt has said about HCG.

" My question when can I start to see physical results? "

It will take months to see alot of physical change, say 6 months to a

year, and gradually more after that. The immediate change I noticed

was my skin became oilier and I began sleeping better and was less

depressed.

" What should I ask for? This specialist asked about sperm count.

Should I be tested? If ok should I have sperm stored? I do have a

girlfriend. "

Definitely try HCG first, 1,000 units three times a week. Do this for

three weeks and then get a blood test of total and free T, and

estradiol. Then adjust the amount either up or down until you're

in a good blood test range and feel good. Remember that Zolt

only takes 330 units twice a week. The amount you take will decrease

over time if your nuts start to work better.

You will become sterile on T shots or gel or patches, but HCG is a

fertility drug so it should stimulate some sperm production as well as

testosterone. You won't need to have sperm stored if you're on HCG.

In fact, for insurance purposes, insist on HCG because you want a

family. It may be hard to get insurance unless you're trying to have

children, because the intended purpose of HCG is for fertility and not

to make T for men with Hypogonadism.

[Guest guest]

I know this message is old but I'd like to have more informations:

What is the difference between HCG and T Therapy?

Which one is better to look more like a " man! " ?(facial hair evolution, skin,

shape...).

It's an interesting testimonial.

[Guest guest]

When using HCG if your testis work good this acts like the messages sent by your

brain (Pituitary) of LH and FSH that tells your testis to make more

Testosterone. Men that have a pituitary problem using HCG alone can get there

testosterone levels up to a good level just from there testis making it on HCG.

Most men on just HCG don't feel all that great so they do both I am one of them

my pituitary got damaged from a head injury.

Doing TRT adding Testosterone from Gels, Patches, Pellets, Creams or Shots get

there testosterone from this med.

Yes you will get some hair growth and can build more muscle on TRT but you need

to work at it and go slow it takes time.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: tinibou@... <tinibou@...>

> Subject: Re: Want to look more masculine

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> Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 7:15 AM

> I know this message is old but I'd

> like to have more informations:

>

> What is the difference between HCG and T Therapy?

>

> Which one is better to look more like a " man! " ?(facial

> hair evolution, skin, shape...).

>

> It's an interesting testimonial.

>

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[Guest guest]

One needs to identify if you are primary vs secondary

Then needs to look for reason why this occured by examining lifestyles,

nutritoin, stress,thyroid, and adrenal imbalances with in the body. To many

dr's are quick to jump on the TRT band wagon when low T is just a symptoms of

the cause. Alot of young guys are on TRT and do not even need to be in the

first place because dr's are too lazy. If you need a good HRT dr we run a state

of the art clinic out side of philadelphia which specializes in getting men and

women well.

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> > From: tinibou@... <tinibou@...>

> > Subject: Re: Want to look more masculine

> >

> > Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 7:15 AM

> > I know this message is old but I'd

> > like to have more informations:

> >

> > What is the difference between HCG and T Therapy?

> >

> > Which one is better to look more like a " man! " ?(facial

> > hair evolution, skin, shape...).

> >

> > It's an interesting testimonial.

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for the advice!

I live in france so i will no be able to come in philadelphia but I'll talk

about it to my endo.

Thank You

[Guest guest]

If your dr is open Dr Overbeck and I are available for consultation for 400 us

dollars if your dr is willing to listen and learn.

>

> Thank you for the advice!

> I live in france so i will no be able to come in philadelphia but I'll talk

about it to my endo.

>

> Thank You

>