Re: Autoimmune Disease in Women

[Guest guest]

Patty:

Thank you for these links. According to my endo, I have Hashimotos. I feel very depressed about this too.

Take care,

-Marie

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Marie, if you ever wnt to talk about Hashimtos or anything else, I am here. At least we are not alone, we both have had implants, in about a month after I have mine taken out, we will both be explanted, and we both have hashimoto's (also have RA) I guess, knowing that someone else is going through what I am, I'm not so alone afterall.

[Guest guest]

, I can understand your depression. But thank God there is treatment for your Hashimoto's that is simple, cheap and safe! That can't be said of some of the other autoimmune diseases. If I have to have an autoimmune disease because of this crap, I'd rather have the thyroid out of all of them.

I don't know what I have at this point, but I still have issues to deal with. I hope someday this will all go away for us. It may take time and lots of work with detoxing, but I will never give up hope.

Take care,

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: perlesetlacet@...

Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 5:30 PM

Subject: Re: Autoimmune Disease in Women

Patty:Thank you for these links. According to my endo, I have Hashimotos. I feel very depressed about this too.Take care,-Marie

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Patty replied in another email that you should not be too depressed over this and while I agree I also know how hard it is having anything wrong with you, my heck this foot thing with me is such a major freaking drag right now, especially with me feeling so great and then I have to get this shit ya know! Sometimes I wonder why I do the stupid crap I do to myself, like wear bad shoes, run excessively etc. Then I pay the price. Right now if it wasn't for the new swimming and pilates routines I have found I would be so depressed let me tell ya.

The thyroid however can be treated easier than allot of autoimmune disease and I highly recomend that you try the armour thyroid I think you would like it allot.

Hugs girl

----- Original Message -----

From: perlesetlacet@...

Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 6:30 PM

Subject: Re: Autoimmune Disease in Women

Patty:Thank you for these links. According to my endo, I have Hashimotos. I feel very depressed about this too.Take care,-Marie

[Guest guest]

I should probably relate what happened to me recently regarding using the thyroid hormone and how it affects states of depression. I think that depression is many times caused by hormonal imbalances and chemical imbalances that we have some control over, and if we realize this, we can overcome that "state" of depression that brings us so low that we are incapacitated. It is horrible to experience while you are going through it, to be sure, but I do think things can be done to help get rid of it, or at least recognize where it is coming from and try to work around it.

I went to a naturopath who did some blood work recently--finally getting the thyroid testing that I had wanted to do for awhile now. When I called the office to get the results of my blood work, the woman said that the letter would be coming in the mail regarding the results, but at that time, she could tell me that the letter said "If you are taking thyroid, we should consider increasing the dose, and/or changing medications."

So, as I was already taking 2 armour (1 grain) pills a day, I upped it to 4. That was a big mistake, and I paid for it with horrible depression. I had talked to that lady late on Friday afternoon, and she said the letter was going in the mail, but it was obviously delayed because I didn't get it until mid-week. Upping my thyroid intake for those extra days definitely had an effect on me. Along with getting my monthly period, my outlook took a nosedive, and my husband and I had a terrible weekend, with me crying and weeping over everything. Even sitting in public couldn't stop me from practically bursting out in tears. I have to admit, I even felt suicidal.

I didn't figure it out until I got the letter in the mail the next week, and what it actually said is that my TSH was "abnormally low," which was usually the result of taking thyroid. Even so, my T4 was still low as well. It also stated that we should do a follow up test for TRH and thyroid antibodies, if I was NOT taking thyroid. But if I was taking thyroid to up the dose.

Taking a close look at the lab paperwork itself, it stated my low TSH was consistent with hyperthyroidism, (NOT hypothyroidism.) So, I was totally and completely confused!! This doctor was suggesting that I should consider increasing my dose of Armour thyroid, but in fact, according to the lab work, I needed to back off of it.

I have no idea what happened inside my body, but I can tell you that the horrible depression took a toll, and after I got that letter, I stopped the Armour completely. I still have been battling the brain fog, but the depression is totally gone, and now that I am adding aspirin at the moment, I have seen some improvements even in the brain fog. I've been actually able to laugh and have a good time with my family this weekend. All I can say is that messing with those hormones is not to be taken lightly. I have not addressed any of this with that doctor yet, and truthfully, even though he has a good reputation here, I am not so sure I want to go back to him.

Once you realize that depression is sometimes controllable by getting the thyroid problems appropriately addressed, you don't have to let it get you down. I hope that will be the case for you .

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: Heer

Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 8:14 PM

Subject: Re: Autoimmune Disease in Women

Patty replied in another email that you should not be too depressed over this and while I agree I also know how hard it is having anything wrong with you, my heck this foot thing with me is such a major freaking drag right now, especially with me feeling so great and then I have to get this shit ya know! Sometimes I wonder why I do the stupid crap I do to myself, like wear bad shoes, run excessively etc. Then I pay the price. Right now if it wasn't for the new swimming and pilates routines I have found I would be so depressed let me tell ya.

The thyroid however can be treated easier than allot of autoimmune disease and I highly recomend that you try the armour thyroid I think you would like it allot.

Hugs girl

----- Original Message -----

From: perlesetlacet@...

Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 6:30 PM

Subject: Re: Autoimmune Disease in Women

Patty:Thank you for these links. According to my endo, I have Hashimotos. I feel very depressed about this too.Take care,-Marie

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Patty:

Hi. Thank you for your kind words. I'm sure I'll get the Hashimotos thing worked out eventually. I agree this disease is the more desirable over other autoimmune diseases. I have depression for other reasons though--I think the Hashimotos exacerbates an already existing condition.

Take care,

-Marie

[Guest guest]

Thanks . I'd like to talk to you too. Take care.

-Marie

[Guest guest]

Patty:

Hi. I'll be calling my endo tomorrow about my options. Thanks for your input.

LM

[Guest guest]

I cannot believe that they wanted you to take that much armour thyroid?

Anyhow I am doing great on one tab a day of the armour and I was told my thryoid was very low, but I never actually looked at the results so I don't know the numbers. I guess maybe I should ha!I do know that I don't seem to get as hormonal as I used to!

Anyhow I think that is great that you are feeling better, I was worried about you

Hugs

----- Original Message -----

From: ~*Patty*~

Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 10:50 AM

Subject: Re: Autoimmune Disease in Women

I should probably relate what happened to me recently regarding using the thyroid hormone and how it affects states of depression. I think that depression is many times caused by hormonal imbalances and chemical imbalances that we have some control over, and if we realize this, we can overcome that "state" of depression that brings us so low that we are incapacitated. It is horrible to experience while you are going through it, to be sure, but I do think things can be done to help get rid of it, or at least recognize where it is coming from and try to work around it.

I went to a naturopath who did some blood work recently--finally getting the thyroid testing that I had wanted to do for awhile now. When I called the office to get the results of my blood work, the woman said that the letter would be coming in the mail regarding the results, but at that time, she could tell me that the letter said "If you are taking thyroid, we should consider increasing the dose, and/or changing medications."

So, as I was already taking 2 armour (1 grain) pills a day, I upped it to 4. That was a big mistake, and I paid for it with horrible depression. I had talked to that lady late on Friday afternoon, and she said the letter was going in the mail, but it was obviously delayed because I didn't get it until mid-week. Upping my thyroid intake for those extra days definitely had an effect on me. Along with getting my monthly period, my outlook took a nosedive, and my husband and I had a terrible weekend, with me crying and weeping over everything. Even sitting in public couldn't stop me from practically bursting out in tears. I have to admit, I even felt suicidal.

I didn't figure it out until I got the letter in the mail the next week, and what it actually said is that my TSH was "abnormally low," which was usually the result of taking thyroid. Even so, my T4 was still low as well. It also stated that we should do a follow up test for TRH and thyroid antibodies, if I was NOT taking thyroid. But if I was taking thyroid to up the dose.

Taking a close look at the lab paperwork itself, it stated my low TSH was consistent with hyperthyroidism, (NOT hypothyroidism.) So, I was totally and completely confused!! This doctor was suggesting that I should consider increasing my dose of Armour thyroid, but in fact, according to the lab work, I needed to back off of it.

I have no idea what happened inside my body, but I can tell you that the horrible depression took a toll, and after I got that letter, I stopped the Armour completely. I still have been battling the brain fog, but the depression is totally gone, and now that I am adding aspirin at the moment, I have seen some improvements even in the brain fog. I've been actually able to laugh and have a good time with my family this weekend. All I can say is that messing with those hormones is not to be taken lightly. I have not addressed any of this with that doctor yet, and truthfully, even though he has a good reputation here, I am not so sure I want to go back to him.

Once you realize that depression is sometimes controllable by getting the thyroid problems appropriately addressed, you don't have to let it get you down. I hope that will be the case for you .

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: Heer

Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 8:14 PM

Subject: Re: Autoimmune Disease in Women

Patty replied in another email that you should not be too depressed over this and while I agree I also know how hard it is having anything wrong with you, my heck this foot thing with me is such a major freaking drag right now, especially with me feeling so great and then I have to get this shit ya know! Sometimes I wonder why I do the stupid crap I do to myself, like wear bad shoes, run excessively etc. Then I pay the price. Right now if it wasn't for the new swimming and pilates routines I have found I would be so depressed let me tell ya.

The thyroid however can be treated easier than allot of autoimmune disease and I highly recomend that you try the armour thyroid I think you would like it allot.

Hugs girl

----- Original Message -----

From: perlesetlacet@...

Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 6:30 PM

Subject: Re: Autoimmune Disease in Women

Patty:Thank you for these links. According to my endo, I have Hashimotos. I feel very depressed about this too.Take care,-Marie