Re: My implants-(anyone else examine textured?)

[Guest guest]

Haven't touched textured but that makes perfect sense

and as you said--"they" don't think silicone is harmful.

Of course one wonders why "they" don't tell us it

bleeds or flakes 1) if they don't think it's harmful

2) so we can decide whether we want anything

extra in our bodies.

I even asked about free silicone in

my body and the plastic surgeon just flat out lied

and said it couldn't happen. Knowing who he was,

and when this occurred, indicates he knew well about

gel bleed and rupture. Now this guy

is one of plastic surgery's leaders--and silicone

implant pioneers. . .teaching others. I've seen

him quoted and lying about another issue--it

must be his problem--and one can now see where these problems lead when one leads or

teaches.

The National Libarary of Medicine has many articles

re particulates from implanted materials, including hard

silicone.

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Darlene:

I have heard textured implants are more hazardous because of their ability to flake off.

Just how popular are these textured type? Mine were smooth. Funny thing is, I don't know what company made them. My jackass PS would not tell me. I really hate that man. I know that sounds mean to say, but I do.

Are you feeling better these days? I'm still in pain 30 days after.

Take care.

-Marie

[Guest guest]

Darlene

Nope I never saw my implants or for that matter any textured implants. I did

at one consult see some smooth silicone ones, they felt smooth and good, I

also saw some smooth saline ones, this was what I thought I was getting,

but I was not informed correctly and my PS used the textured ones instead. I

have asked Patty about hers cause she took them home with her, and she said

they didn't appear to have been flaking off, I don't know about mine cause I

was afraid to take them as I wanted the material analyzed so I didn't touch

them or see them and Dr Feng sent them to be analyzed by Dr Blais in Canada.

Nothing surprises me though, maybe the reason so many of us with textured

got so ill so fast is the flaking that you are talking about. Gosh I would

love to see a photo of them, do you have a scanner or digital camera? If not

then maybe you could just take a regular photo and send it to me, I would

love to see this.

I hope that you will find a way to detox your body and that you will be

better soon.

Keep us informed of how you do.

Hugs

----- Original Message -----

From: " cdpayne64 " <cdpayne64@...>

< >

Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 2:58 PM

Subject: My implants-(anyone else examine textured?)

> Hi all,

>

> I just wondered if any of you who have seen textured implants before,

> has ever noticed how the material flakes off of them so easy! I got

> mine after explant, they had drained them to test the fluid inside,

> they were all cleaned up, just a very tiny amount of blood around the

> valve. I thought it was so weird to see them, and when I felt the

> textured surface, I noticed with little effort, I could see with my

> own eyes particles flaking off of them. I thought how this was in me

> for 3 years, while I moved around ect, and I know some must have came

> off while implanted. This is another reason I want to take the

> Inositol.

>

> I guess 'they' think that silicone, (or what ever else is in the

> shell) isn't harmful to anyone. -And those in the party who make

> up 'they', I would bet they do not have implants like I had, in their

> body today, and feel fine. Anyway, I'm just SO glad I have that out

> of me now. Let me know if had ever seen this,

>

> Thanks,

> Darlene

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

The implants are not so bad to flake that if you touch them things

start to flake off, but it's like, if you rub across them or maybe if

you lightly scrape them with your fingernail, you can see particles

coming right off. (trying to create the right picture here) lol

I just think it is too easy for particles to come off that are not

even microscopic. I can only imagine what worked it way off over time

with fluid, muscle movement, laying on stomach/side. I am no doctor,

but I'm sure that particles did come of at least in the capsule if

not beyond.

Have you see the report where they find silicone in the capsules of

most explanted???

I can send it to you, I saved it.

Maybe more have seen the same thing. At first I didn't want to even

look at them, but I'm glad I did. I would be glad to send you a pic

of them. Maybe when I get to feeling good, I'll find a way to place

them on something that will show the particles as well. Talk to you

soon.

Hugs

(easy ones)

Darlene

> Darlene

>

> Nope I never saw my implants or for that matter any textured

implants. I did

> at one consult see some smooth silicone ones, they felt smooth and

good, I

> also saw some smooth saline ones, this was what I thought I was

getting,

> but I was not informed correctly and my PS used the textured ones

instead. I

> have asked Patty about hers cause she took them home with her, and

she said

> they didn't appear to have been flaking off, I don't know about

mine cause I

> was afraid to take them as I wanted the material analyzed so I

didn't touch

> them or see them and Dr Feng sent them to be analyzed by Dr Blais

in Canada.

>

> Nothing surprises me though, maybe the reason so many of us with

textured

> got so ill so fast is the flaking that you are talking about. Gosh

I would

> love to see a photo of them, do you have a scanner or digital

camera? If not

> then maybe you could just take a regular photo and send it to me, I

would

> love to see this.

>

> I hope that you will find a way to detox your body and that you

will be

> better soon.

>

> Keep us informed of how you do.

>

> Hugs

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " cdpayne64 " <cdpayne64@y...>

> < @y...>

> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 2:58 PM

> Subject: My implants-(anyone else examine textured?)

>

>

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I just wondered if any of you who have seen textured implants

before,

> > has ever noticed how the material flakes off of them so easy! I

got

> > mine after explant, they had drained them to test the fluid

inside,

> > they were all cleaned up, just a very tiny amount of blood around

the

> > valve. I thought it was so weird to see them, and when I felt the

> > textured surface, I noticed with little effort, I could see with

my

> > own eyes particles flaking off of them. I thought how this was in

me

> > for 3 years, while I moved around ect, and I know some must have

came

> > off while implanted. This is another reason I want to take the

> > Inositol.

> >

> > I guess 'they' think that silicone, (or what ever else is in the

> > shell) isn't harmful to anyone. -And those in the party who make

> > up 'they', I would bet they do not have implants like I had, in

their

> > body today, and feel fine. Anyway, I'm just SO glad I have that

out

> > of me now. Let me know if had ever seen this,

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Darlene

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

-Marie

Hey girl are you still hurting from your lift? Is it just the incisions or what?

I hurt for 3 months but I assumed it was from the explant more than the lift.

Hey I think you are going easy on the ps after what he did to you!

hugs

----- Original Message -----

From: perlesetlacet@...

Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 3:40 PM

Subject: Re: My implants-(anyone else examine textured?)

Darlene:I have heard textured implants are more hazardous because of their ability to flake off. Just how popular are these textured type? Mine were smooth. Funny thing is, I don't know what company made them. My jackass PS would not tell me. I really hate that man. I know that sounds mean to say, but I do.Are you feeling better these days? I'm still in pain 30 days after.Take care.-Marie

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie,

I think they were pretty popular a few years ago, and know they have

to be textured if they are not round, so they will not turn. The

textured is supposed to help keep the implant from slipping, as it

holds in place better and the body can 'grip' it better. Guess I

thought I really did my homework, but turns out I didn't do that well

after all, or I would have never had it done in the first place.

I'm feeling very good surgery wise, it has only been a few days, and

I'm off my pain meds, I took Advil today, I'm still tired and a bit

achy / flulike, but I think I need to rest some, I felt so good

yesterday I think I over did it. I'm really very happy to be

just 'me' again, no more implants!

Who did your explant? I can't keep everyone straight (sorry). Did you

have a lift too? I hope you get to feeling good soon, I know with

most surgeries, it takes a month or two to feel 100% most of the time.

Take care & E-Z

easy (((HUGS)))

Darlene

> Darlene:

> I have heard textured implants are more hazardous because of their

ability to

> flake off.

>

> Just how popular are these textured type? Mine were smooth. Funny

thing is, I

> don't know what company made them. My jackass PS would not tell me.

I really

> hate that man. I know that sounds mean to say, but I do.

>

> Are you feeling better these days? I'm still in pain 30 days after.

>

> Take care.

> -Marie

[Guest guest]

Textured are still quite popular, it is said they cause less capsular

contracture, I don't know, it seems that they are firmer too, and wrikle

more. I have seen allot of girls on pro implant sites that not only have tx

but have silicone gel too yikes!

----- Original Message -----

From: " cdpayne64 " <cdpayne64@...>

< >

Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 4:18 PM

Subject: Re: My implants-(anyone else examine textured?)

> Hi Marie,

>

> I think they were pretty popular a few years ago, and know they have

> to be textured if they are not round, so they will not turn. The

> textured is supposed to help keep the implant from slipping, as it

> holds in place better and the body can 'grip' it better. Guess I

> thought I really did my homework, but turns out I didn't do that well

> after all, or I would have never had it done in the first place.

>

> I'm feeling very good surgery wise, it has only been a few days, and

> I'm off my pain meds, I took Advil today, I'm still tired and a bit

> achy / flulike, but I think I need to rest some, I felt so good

> yesterday I think I over did it. I'm really very happy to be

> just 'me' again, no more implants!

>

> Who did your explant? I can't keep everyone straight (sorry). Did you

> have a lift too? I hope you get to feeling good soon, I know with

> most surgeries, it takes a month or two to feel 100% most of the time.

>

> Take care & E-Z

>

> easy (((HUGS)))

>

> Darlene

>

>

>

>

>

> > Darlene:

> > I have heard textured implants are more hazardous because of their

> ability to

> > flake off.

> >

> > Just how popular are these textured type? Mine were smooth. Funny

> thing is, I

> > don't know what company made them. My jackass PS would not tell me.

> I really

> > hate that man. I know that sounds mean to say, but I do.

> >

> > Are you feeling better these days? I'm still in pain 30 days after.

> >

> > Take care.

> > -Marie

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Darlene

I just read your post and got to wondering about my implants, which I

also have in my posession. They are not textured (thank God) but I

checked them out anyway. Nothing whatsoever comes off them, it's

like feeling a water balloon....BUT, it actually made me feel ill at

the thought that I had touched these again with my bare hands and

could have thrown up! I immediately scrubbed my hands with extremely

hot water and soap and promptly put them back in their new home....I

will NEVER touch them again unless I have gloves on! I did read

somewhere (maybe Lany's site?) that they are highly toxic and should

not be handled without gloves.

I didn't think I had this emotional issue but obviously I have.

Also another thing, one of them has a teeny little hole in it (mine

were not drained) and I realised this because it had moisture around

it, I thought it was coming through the shell until I put pressure on

it and seen the tiny droplets coming out. I'm hoping now that my

surgeon accidently did this when removing them and not when my

implanting surgeon put them in!!!!!! What an horrific thought!

I am not sick though, so I dismiss that.

Anyway, happy healing, isn't it wonderful to be implant free?

Love Keli.

> Hi all,

>

> I just wondered if any of you who have seen textured implants

before,

> has ever noticed how the material flakes off of them so easy! I

got

> mine after explant, they had drained them to test the fluid inside,

> they were all cleaned up, just a very tiny amount of blood around

the

> valve. I thought it was so weird to see them, and when I felt the

> textured surface, I noticed with little effort, I could see with my

> own eyes particles flaking off of them. I thought how this was in

me

> for 3 years, while I moved around ect, and I know some must have

came

> off while implanted. This is another reason I want to take the

> Inositol.

>

> I guess 'they' think that silicone, (or what ever else is in the

> shell) isn't harmful to anyone. -And those in the party who make

> up 'they', I would bet they do not have implants like I had, in

their

> body today, and feel fine. Anyway, I'm just SO glad I have that

out

> of me now. Let me know if had ever seen this,

>

> Thanks,

> Darlene

[Guest guest]

Thanks Keli,

I washed my hands with antibacterial soap and hot water right after,

but I never thought about the dangers of touching them with hands.

Then again I haven't recieved my cultures back yet either, so I'll

wear golves if I handle them again. I still can't get over how funny

they feel. I sure hope that hole was made during explant too, I

wonder if you PS knows or not. How are you doing these days? I hope

you are doing well, and yes it is great to be implant FREE!

Love & hugs,

Darlene

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I just wondered if any of you who have seen textured implants

> before,

> > has ever noticed how the material flakes off of them so easy! I

> got

> > mine after explant, they had drained them to test the fluid

inside,

> > they were all cleaned up, just a very tiny amount of blood around

> the

> > valve. I thought it was so weird to see them, and when I felt

the

> > textured surface, I noticed with little effort, I could see with

my

> > own eyes particles flaking off of them. I thought how this was in

> me

> > for 3 years, while I moved around ect, and I know some must have

> came

> > off while implanted. This is another reason I want to take the

> > Inositol.

> >

> > I guess 'they' think that silicone, (or what ever else is in the

> > shell) isn't harmful to anyone. -And those in the party who make

> > up 'they', I would bet they do not have implants like I had, in

> their

> > body today, and feel fine. Anyway, I'm just SO glad I have that

> out

> > of me now. Let me know if had ever seen this,

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Darlene