Re: It IS astounding...

[Guest guest]

You know, I wanted implants so badly that I was absolutely thrilled with my implants, too. ( I think many of us were in that frame of mind.)

Even though in reality, my implants looked stupid! They were hard, big and the excess breast tissue had no perkiness, resulting in a flat looking nipple area. I didn't like that aspect of my implanted breasts, but hey, I finally had big boobs and felt like a complete woman, so that "flaw" didn't seem to matter. I was sure these minor problems could be fixed by the PS. These women are probably somewhere in that same boat.

Now that I have been inducted into the Failed Implant Experience Hall of Fame, the attitude that "those flaws didnt' matter" seems so absurd. They cost me my health and several precious years of my children's young lives. How is it that the complications get so glossed over, when the risks are so high? And where is the concern for the babies that these women might bear, and what those children might have to live with? It is totally mind boggling.

I wish this whole implant thing didn't seem like a dream come true for so many girls. It is that anticipation of their soon-to-be-perfect figure that keeps them desperate for implants, that boosting of their ego, the attention and approval they will receive from others, and the assurance from the plastic surgeons that the surgery is completely safe. The lure of these things for women who really want them drowns out all reason. I understand how devastating it can be for women to live with a bodily flaw that she totally despises, and then realize that they can get rid of it and overcome it! I was at that place once. But there's' that saying, "If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is....."

It seems to apply to implants, but that whole aspect gets lost in the thrill and the anticipation of a changed breast size.

I was recently astounded to find out that someone close to me got implants anyway, even after I had warned her of all the dangers, gave her all kinds of information that I did not have the opportunity to have, and she told me I "saved her life", that she would never risk her health to get implants, blah, blah, blah. She did anyway. It makes one realize how deep seated these feelings about our breasts are, and that no matter what we say or do, girls, women, teens are going to get them anyway.

I just wish there was a way to make enlarging breasts safe. We compromise so easily...and you are right, Jeena, with no remedy.

Patty

----- Original Message ----- From: "el_jeena" <el_jeena@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 6:44 PM

Subject: It IS astounding...

> The numbers are high and it seems women are getting implants more > than ever. On the pro implant sites, they are posting HORRIBLE > HORRIBLE problems and complications, yet still claiming to be > THRILLED with implants. I didn't find that part of the article > untrue. What I was shocked by, is that 150,000 complaints have > already been filed with the FDA on Saline implants. This no longer > scares any women who want or have implants. They simply do not care.> > If a woman has money to get the subsequent surgeries to maintain > them, these things do not frighten them. They now feel that CC is > just a "little problem" and they just go back for more and more > surgeries when it happens. Using scare tactics no longer even causes > a stir.> > The only time you see this attitude change, is in the VICTIM who > posts suddenly with something like "Help!!! I am in PAIN!" or "HELP!! > my incision is not healing!" Suddenly, they are just DEVESTATED. > But soon, everyone give them the name of the super Dr. and tells how > they were "repaired" and thrilled again, and it is over.> > I don't think we will see anything like we saw when all of us in the > 90's got ill and got on the lawsuits for a long time. Most of the > women who are still in booby honeymoon are just too young and too > newly implanted to know the real devestation of what can happen.> > We may all live to see this change drastically. Trouble is, this > time there can be no large litigation. They knew. They didn't care. > We have seen nothing yet, girls.> > Jeena

[Guest guest]

I know what you mean. I too was so happy when I had mine done in 97.

I was 21 and was so happy to have large breasts as I was always very

small. I think since I have matured a lot, I see my breasts as too

large for my body type. It is awful trying to find stuff that fits

properly. They just got larger went from a large C to a DD after

having 2 children. A lot of the young women getting these things do

not think about things like this at the time. I know I did not, all

I cared about was looking great. You do not think about nursing a

child at that age, you don't think anything bad will happen to you.

The ps tells you that any complications are so minimal. When you

sign on the release form you question all the side effects, but the

doctor assures you that none of that has been proven. Yet you sign

the form thinking that everything will be great just put them in. No

I did not think Saline was harmful. I did not realize that saline

has a shelf life and must be stored at room temperature even though I

used saline solution for my lenses. Bacteria, fungus? No it must

have been done by an unqualified doctor using less than sterile

conditions. Most young women do not think about this, I know I

didn't. And you are right the media sure downplays any problems with

saline calling anyone who does have a problem a crazy, hypochondriac.

I am not extremely ill, at least I don't think I am, but I do suffer

from abnormal fatigue and excessive hair loss on and off. I sleep 8

hours and wake up feeling tired. My wrists get achy when I push my

kids in the stroller, when I am typing at the computer my hands get

achy often. I am not 100% sure if it is the implants causing this as

I have not have medical testing done since I am moving soon and have

to find a new doctor. However I made up my mind that even if it is

not the implants I want them out of my body. I don't want to risk my

health and I just had it. 15 years from now I don't want to come

down with something that nobody will know what it is or tell me that

I am making it up. There is always a risk in the choices that we

make in life and sometimes we win sometimes we lose. My health

however is not something that I wish to lose. I just hope that more

women would see this because I know I didn't. Ari

> You know, I wanted implants so badly that I was absolutely thrilled

with my implants, too. ( I think many of us were in that frame of

mind.)

>

> Even though in reality, my implants looked stupid! They were hard,

big and the excess breast tissue had no perkiness, resulting in a

flat looking nipple area. I didn't like that aspect of my implanted

breasts, but hey, I finally had big boobs and felt like a complete

woman, so that " flaw " didn't seem to matter. I was sure these minor

problems could be fixed by the PS. These women are probably somewhere

in that same boat.

>

> Now that I have been inducted into the Failed Implant Experience

Hall of Fame, the attitude that " those flaws didnt' matter " seems so

absurd. They cost me my health and several precious years of my

children's young lives. How is it that the complications get so

glossed over, when the risks are so high? And where is the concern

for the babies that these women might bear, and what those children

might have to live with? It is totally mind boggling.

>

> I wish this whole implant thing didn't seem like a dream come true

for so many girls. It is that anticipation of their soon-to-be-

perfect figure that keeps them desperate for implants, that boosting

of their ego, the attention and approval they will receive from

others, and the assurance from the plastic surgeons that the surgery

is completely safe. The lure of these things for women who really

want them drowns out all reason. I understand how devastating it can

be for women to live with a bodily flaw that she totally despises,

and then realize that they can get rid of it and overcome it! I was

at that place once. But there's' that saying, " If it sounds too good

to be true, it usually is..... "

>

> It seems to apply to implants, but that whole aspect gets lost in

the thrill and the anticipation of a changed breast size.

>

> I was recently astounded to find out that someone close to me got

implants anyway, even after I had warned her of all the dangers, gave

her all kinds of information that I did not have the opportunity to

have, and she told me I " saved her life " , that she would never risk

her health to get implants, blah, blah, blah. She did anyway. It

makes one realize how deep seated these feelings about our breasts

are, and that no matter what we say or do, girls, women, teens are

going to get them anyway.

>

> I just wish there was a way to make enlarging breasts safe. We

compromise so easily...and you are right, Jeena, with no remedy.

>

> Patty

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " el_jeena " <el_jeena@h...>

> < @y...>

> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 6:44 PM

> Subject: It IS astounding...

>

>

> > The numbers are high and it seems women are getting implants more

> > than ever. On the pro implant sites, they are posting HORRIBLE

> > HORRIBLE problems and complications, yet still claiming to be

> > THRILLED with implants. I didn't find that part of the article

> > untrue. What I was shocked by, is that 150,000 complaints have

> > already been filed with the FDA on Saline implants. This no

longer

> > scares any women who want or have implants. They simply do not

care.

> >

> > If a woman has money to get the subsequent surgeries to maintain

> > them, these things do not frighten them. They now feel that CC is

> > just a " little problem " and they just go back for more and more

> > surgeries when it happens. Using scare tactics no longer even

causes

> > a stir.

> >

> > The only time you see this attitude change, is in the VICTIM who

> > posts suddenly with something like " Help!!! I am in PAIN! "

or " HELP!!

> > my incision is not healing! " Suddenly, they are just

DEVESTATED.

> > But soon, everyone give them the name of the super Dr. and tells

how

> > they were " repaired " and thrilled again, and it is over.

> >

> > I don't think we will see anything like we saw when all of us in

the

> > 90's got ill and got on the lawsuits for a long time. Most of

the

> > women who are still in booby honeymoon are just too young and too

> > newly implanted to know the real devestation of what can happen.

> >

> > We may all live to see this change drastically. Trouble is, this

> > time there can be no large litigation. They knew. They didn't

care.

> > We have seen nothing yet, girls.

> >

> > Jeena

[Guest guest]

Can anyone find anybody on the pro implant sites that

admits being part of the study.

I'm curious about how checkups are performed, if they

are indeed (apparently a mailed questionaire is

considered acceptable for upcoming checksups).

If the doctor is not giving the woman a physical,

doing some neurological tests, and some blood tests,

how can they say there are NO other complications?

However, after saying that, there was a mention in the

transcript saying that the information on mixed

connective tissue disease would not be considered at

the hearing. . . . I wonder what they are withholding?

It sends a redflag up whenever I visit 's group

.. .. then they mess with my computer. I wish I knew

how??? . .. Could some of you ladies see if you can

get information on women participating in the studies?

Hugs to all,

Rogene

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[Guest guest]

I couldn't agree with all of you more about how implants changed my

life. I was so excited at first with my implants then they got hard

and painful.

I will be explanted in the next two weeks sometime or sooner I am

just waiting for a free day but it is definately within the next two

weeks.

I can't wait to have my little chest back.

My upper chest measurement is 32 1/2 my under chest measurement is

29 " and my boobs measure 38 " So you know this is going to be so cool

to be able to blend into the rest of my body and get to wear little t-

shirts again and not have all that bounce and drag on my shoulders

and back. I just can't wait... I am so excited I don't care how

droppy I look.

I want this implant story of my life to be over with. I wish women

would not put them in their bodies but I do understand why they do it

because I spent the last 20 years with fake boobies so I am a pro and

have paid for it with my health.

Well soon to be explanted and implant free... YIPPEE..

Mari

[Guest guest]

Ya know I may pass this on to Nikkis forum she may know but I do not,

interesting point!

----- Original Message -----

From: " Rogene S " <saxony01@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:45 PM

Subject: Re: It IS astounding...

> Can anyone find anybody on the pro implant sites that

> admits being part of the study.

>

> I'm curious about how checkups are performed, if they

> are indeed (apparently a mailed questionaire is

> considered acceptable for upcoming checksups).

>

> If the doctor is not giving the woman a physical,

> doing some neurological tests, and some blood tests,

> how can they say there are NO other complications?

>

> However, after saying that, there was a mention in the

> transcript saying that the information on mixed

> connective tissue disease would not be considered at

> the hearing. . . . I wonder what they are withholding?

>

> It sends a redflag up whenever I visit 's group

> . .. then they mess with my computer. I wish I knew

> how??? . .. Could some of you ladies see if you can

> get information on women participating in the studies?

>

> Hugs to all,

>

> Rogene

>

> __________________________________________________

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