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THANKS. I know I have a lot to learn. I want the very best fo my

daughter.

What are the most important features to those of you have have a

CI? Is it the size, internal, external, color, features... I guess

my list could go on.

Any thoughts and comments are appareciated

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> > Hi

> >

> > I hope I have come to the right place. I'm still trying to

decide

> > what brand of implant to get for my daughter. Is there any one

that

> > can help me understand more about the different devices? I have

all

> > the marketing literature but what's going to be best to improve

my

> > precious 5 year old daughter's hearing. This is something she

will

> > have for a lifetime.

> >

> > Thanks

> > ine

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,

Welcome. You are not screwing anything up. Remember the first month is

for healing. Let yourself heal and don't worry about the weight. After 6

weeks or whatever your doctor decides and you get your first fill, you

can concentrate on things.

I would suggest getting the book by Ahroni on Gastric Banding. I

got it recently and even though I am three years out (I can't believe

it) I find it useful.

Since you are in the puree stage, make sure you are eating pureed

things. Just take care of yourself and heal. The rest will come.

Donna

renee8265 wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> I'm new to the board and wanted to introduce myself. I'm in the

> Chicago suburb area and I just got banded Oct 25. I'm down 10lbs

> already, but my weight loss stopped as soon as I started adding back

> in some foods such as oatmeal, pudding and eggs. I think I'm

> technically in the puree stage right now.

[Guest guest]

Hi ! Gosh, didn't your doc go over most of this? It's very

common to regain most or all if the weight you lost artifically from

semi-starvation on the fluid parts of some doc's post-op diets. Soft

foods and soups are generally much higher calories than solid foods,

and they also don't fill you up to you eat a lot more and

consequently regain. The band simply does not work with soft or

liquid foods. This is exactly why we need to eat solid foods most of

the time, as soon as allowed after surgery. The rule is " no liquid

calories " - that means no soups, juices, milk except for 2 glasses

for the calcium, or any other liquids with calories.

You might start tracking your intake on www.Fitday.com to see where

you are. You need at least 1200 cal a day, (not less) and usually not

more than 1500. If you ar starting heavier, 1800-2000 may be about

right - but this is very hard until you haver a good fill and the

band is working.

Your serious weight loss will likely not start until you get to a

good fill level in a couple months - it takes, on average, 3-5 fillls

a month apart to get to a really good one. Until then, any weight you

do lose will be becuase of your own hard work self-limiting calories,

since the band really is not working well yet. Start getting some

good exercise, too, as it is essential to good loss and - more

importantly - later maintanance. a lot of at-goal people are now

regaining again becuase they neglected exercise along the way, and

did not build healthy muscles to turn their bodies into more

efficient fat-burners. This is badly needed during maintance, because

you'll likely need to back off your fill then, to alow less longterm

pressure on your band. you'll need to rely on your better eating

habits more , and your body's improved metabolism and fat burning.

Please keep the faith - you're just starting your band journey and

your expectations are too hard on yourself! Thiis is not the weight-

loss phase, but the first major learning phase, when you're learning

about foods, good exercise, working hopefully with www.Fitday.com to

see your intake and where it can be improved, practicing getting the

needed non-calorie fluids in (at lest 64-100 oz a day) and the other

band needs.

The one-cup idea is ONLY for after you get to a good fill! for now,

you have no restriction at all, so there is no reason you could not

eat like before. This is called Bandster Hell for a reason - you have

a band that is not working and are hungry and able to eat a lot!

The sugar will always matter. Calories will also matter. if it not

enough that you simply eat less, you need to eat the right foods and

avoid the body's insulin reaction from eating high-sugar food. these

cause a high blood sugar, then a blood sugar crash that makes you

ravenously hungry for more sweets that start5 the cycle again. this

is one of the things that led to us becoming obese - so one of the

things we need to change. Avoid sweets and junk food, except for an

occasional, planned treat.

Eating 1/3 of what we were eating before is till way too much for

many people, and not the right types of foods. a good goal for AFTER

you get to a good fil is about 1200-1500 cal a day, and these should

be made up of about 50-55% good carbs (dairy, cereals, veggies, a

small bit of fruit (since it is mostl sugar, and ALL it's vits and

minerals are also found in veggies for way fewer calories), 20-25%

high-quakity protein, and 20-25% good fats.

You also need 25-30 grams of fiber a day for bowel health 9avoidance

of bowel cancer and more) and this is also a good way to get full on

few calories. Lastly, you need 1200-1500 mg of calcium a day for good

weight loss, as well as bone, teeth, and nerve health.This can be

from 2 servings of nonfat dairy a day, or by calcium supplements like

victiv. don't forget a daily adult mutli vit like Viactiv chewables

or Centrum chewables. (Forgive me if you know all this already, but

it sounds like you didn't get much info...)

I don't know what " Seattle Sutton " is, but good band food are

different than all othere diets. We're concentrating on solid protein

first, then veggies, then cereals and dairy. The South Beach diet is

the closest to a good band diet, but you still need to choose only

good band foods from among those suggested.

Banding is not a diet, but a whole lifestyle chance. We need to avoid

things like bread, pasta, rice, and potaotes - not only becuase they

often get stuck, but also becuase thery are terrible nutrition, and

we need to use our small pouches for only the highest nutrition foods.

You might benefit from the material found in Dr Jessie Ahroni's book -

written by a Bandster and band practioner.

http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp? & isbn=0-595-31114-8

We also have sample menus posted here, but I'll have to give you the

post # later - I'm at a different computer and they are not

bookmarked here. You can find them , though, by doing a search here

for " Sample Munu Plans " They are back maybe 4-6 weeks, and are re-

posted regularly.

I'm afraid with or without the band , calories will always count. You

cannot lose unless you are taking in fewer calories than you need -

the band just makes that easier to be satisfied with that, after it

is filled well.

In the mentime, learn a lot more about better nutrition and what the

other essential things are that are needed to do well.

Glad you found us! Sandy R (Kuri, at goal x 21 mo)

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I'm new to the board and wanted to introduce myself. I'm in the

> Chicago suburb area and I just got banded Oct 25. I'm down 10lbs

> already, but my weight loss stopped as soon as I started adding

back

> in some foods such as oatmeal, pudding and eggs. I think I'm

> technically in the puree stage right now. I've been eating mostly

> soft foods, soups etc. But I have had some regular food too and

> learned to chew it really good. I feel like I'm floundering in the

> menu area. I've been trying to search the board for menu ideas. I

> can definetely eat more than a cup of food. I'm not sure why my

> weight loss would stop as soon as I started eating different foods

> since the actual quantity of food I'm eating is still way less than

> before. I'm also confused on having low sugar foods. If I'm

eating

> less than before why would the sugar matter? I feel like I'm

> screwing this up right out of the gate. I'm thinking of going back

> to Seattle Sutton who provides 1200 calorie meals. I did this

> before but I was too hungry on it. With the lapband, I think I

> could adhere to it better.

>

> I'm looking forward to reading past posts and hearing from you.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow! Thanks Sandy. No the doctor did not go over any of this.

I've only had one follow up after surgery and it was mostly him

looking at the stitches and seeing if I am having any trouble. I did

see a nutritionist prior to surgery but all she went over was a bit

on what to eat after surgery. I do have a Healthy Lifestyle class

scheduled for Dec 1 that I assume will go over more specifics about

good food choices and quantities.

I'm really glad to hear that not losing weight, maybe even gaining

some back is normal after surgery. I was so scared I was screwing

up right out of the gate.

I have started back up on my ellipical and I will check out the

website you gave. I know calories count, it was the sugar I was

confused on. Looks like watching the sugar is just for having a

healthy diet and not because of the band itself.

Seattle Sutton is in a few states, but not everywhere. She is a

nurse who put together a diet that follows all the dietary

guidelines. The food is made fresh and you pick it up twice a

week. She has 1200 and 2000 calorie plans. I did the 1200 before

and lost weight, but I was really hungry. I'm mulling over trying

it again with a smaller stomach. I would prefer to just eat right on

my own, but this may be nice to get a jump start the first couple of

months.

Thanks for your great response, I really appreciate your time

putting all this information together.

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I'm new to the board and wanted to introduce myself. I'm in the

> > Chicago suburb area and I just got banded Oct 25. I'm down

10lbs

> > already, but my weight loss stopped as soon as I started adding

> back

> > in some foods such as oatmeal, pudding and eggs. I think I'm

> > technically in the puree stage right now. I've been eating

mostly

> > soft foods, soups etc. But I have had some regular food too and

> > learned to chew it really good. I feel like I'm floundering in

the

> > menu area. I've been trying to search the board for menu ideas.

I

> > can definetely eat more than a cup of food. I'm not sure why my

> > weight loss would stop as soon as I started eating different

foods

> > since the actual quantity of food I'm eating is still way less

than

> > before. I'm also confused on having low sugar foods. If I'm

> eating

> > less than before why would the sugar matter? I feel like I'm

> > screwing this up right out of the gate. I'm thinking of going

back

> > to Seattle Sutton who provides 1200 calorie meals. I did this

> > before but I was too hungry on it. With the lapband, I think I

> > could adhere to it better.

> >

> > I'm looking forward to reading past posts and hearing from you.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

LOL!! This is a lady's name?! I was thinking " Seattle Sutton " was a

hospital or meedical plan or something! I'd be very interested to see

some of her food plans to see if they ar pretty good for Bandsters.If

so, they would be a great resource.

Most plans I've seen are way too low in protein and way too high in

starchy carbs and other stuff better to avoid. Since we have such a

small pouch (gofball sized) we need to aim for only the highest

quality and types of nutrition to get what we need in.

Any good lowfat, heart-healthy cookbook would have hundreds of good

recipes, if you choose ones that use good band foods.

I looked up the post with the food plans I was searching fo - please

see post # 4396 here. (Put this post # into the " MSG " blank at the

top of the page to go directly to it.

I also added this info to the database here.

Happy to offer suggestions ! sandy R

-- In , " renee8265 " <renee8265@y...>

wrote:

>

> Wow! Thanks Sandy. No the doctor did not go over any of this.

> I've only had one follow up after surgery and it was mostly him

> looking at the stitches and seeing if I am having any trouble. I

did

> see a nutritionist prior to surgery but all she went over was a bit

> on what to eat after surgery. I do have a Healthy Lifestyle class

> scheduled for Dec 1 that I assume will go over more specifics about

> good food choices and quantities.

>

> I'm really glad to hear that not losing weight, maybe even gaining

> some back is normal after surgery. I was so scared I was screwing

> up right out of the gate.

>

> I have started back up on my ellipical and I will check out the

> website you gave. I know calories count, it was the sugar I was

> confused on. Looks like watching the sugar is just for having a

> healthy diet and not because of the band itself.

>

> Seattle Sutton is in a few states, but not everywhere. She is a

> nurse who put together a diet that follows all the dietary

> guidelines. The food is made fresh and you pick it up twice a

> week. She has 1200 and 2000 calorie plans. I did the 1200 before

> and lost weight, but I was really hungry. I'm mulling over trying

> it again with a smaller stomach. I would prefer to just eat right

on

> my own, but this may be nice to get a jump start the first couple

of

> months.

>

> Thanks for your great response, I really appreciate your time

> putting all this information together.

>

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > Hi everyone,

> > >

> > > I'm new to the board and wanted to introduce myself. I'm in

the

> > > Chicago suburb area and I just got banded Oct 25. I'm down

> 10lbs

> > > already, but my weight loss stopped as soon as I started adding

> > back

> > > in some foods such as oatmeal, pudding and eggs. I think I'm

> > > technically in the puree stage right now. I've been eating

> mostly

> > > soft foods, soups etc. But I have had some regular food too

and

> > > learned to chew it really good. I feel like I'm floundering in

> the

> > > menu area. I've been trying to search the board for menu

ideas.

> I

> > > can definetely eat more than a cup of food. I'm not sure why

my

> > > weight loss would stop as soon as I started eating different

> foods

> > > since the actual quantity of food I'm eating is still way less

> than

> > > before. I'm also confused on having low sugar foods. If I'm

> > eating

> > > less than before why would the sugar matter? I feel like I'm

> > > screwing this up right out of the gate. I'm thinking of going

> back

> > > to Seattle Sutton who provides 1200 calorie meals. I did this

> > > before but I was too hungry on it. With the lapband, I think I

> > > could adhere to it better.

> > >

> > > I'm looking forward to reading past posts and hearing from you.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I looked at the menus for this Sutton woman's plan and for bandsters I think

it's definitely too high in carbs with all of the noodles, pasta, muffins,

etc.

It was like what looking at a menu in a restaurant seems to be for me these

days -- going down the list saying " That will get stuck " - " That will get

stuck " -- " Not worth the effort. " HA!

--

Liz Grigorian

http://lap-band.blogspot.com/

[Guest guest]

Hey I know that feeling. I just look straight to the soups! Or plain meat

entrees. :-)

lol

I hate Sliming!!!!

By the way I have a question about sliming. It seems that is all I do when

something doesn't agree with my band. I have had very few (like 2-3) PB'ing

incidents. Is that a sign I'm just not chewing my food well enough? Probably

not that I'm " full " right?

Thanks,

Audrey

Liz Grigorian <happytexan@...> wrote:

I looked at the menus for this Sutton woman's plan and for bandsters I think

it's definitely too high in carbs with all of the noodles, pasta, muffins,

etc.

It was like what looking at a menu in a restaurant seems to be for me these

days -- going down the list saying " That will get stuck " - " That will get

stuck " -- " Not worth the effort. " HA!

--

Liz Grigorian

http://lap-band.blogspot.com/

[Guest guest]

Audrey , if you haven't progressed from " sliming " to a full pb (barf)

you're very lucky - and are doing great! I bet you stop eating as

soon as the sliming starts. This means that something is going wrong

and your salivary glands are starting to work overtime to lubricate

the problem through. If you don't stop, you would likely barf.

There are a few people who have never had a pb at all, and a few who

didn't for almost a year. Maybe you'll beat the record - but don't

count on it! :-)

I found that i needed the " SMACK " that a pb gave me to reinforce NOT

doing whatever I was doing again. I'm sure others learn easier!

Sandy R

> I looked at the menus for this Sutton woman's plan and for

bandsters I think

> it's definitely too high in carbs with all of the noodles, pasta,

muffins,

> etc.

> It was like what looking at a menu in a restaurant seems to be for

me these

> days -- going down the list saying " That will get stuck " - " That

will get

> stuck " -- " Not worth the effort. " HA!

>

>

> --

> Liz Grigorian

> http://lap-band.blogspot.com/

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

http://www.seattlesutton.com/home.asp is their home page. There is a

book in case you feel the need for one.

My mother lives on Seattle Sutton. She is 86 and likes the food

pretty well. She lives in an apartment at my brother's house in the

Chicago area, and they provide all her food. My brother and his wife

work full time, and they have six kids, so having SS for my mother is

great for all of them. I understand it is pretty expensive, though.

We've tried a couple of other " food delivered to you " or " food

prepared in your kitchen every two weeks " plans, but decided that it

didn't fit our needs or pocketbooks. Gail and I both work full time,

but I can't eat all they provide, and Gail doesn't need to. And we

really have the time to take care of our own food needs.

So, check out SS, but if you check their locations they're only in the

midwest at present, plus Georgia.

Of course if you wanted to start a franchise....

dan

Saturday, November 12, 2005, 9:22:38 PM, you wrote:

S> LOL!! This is a lady's name?! I was thinking

S> " Seattle Sutton " was a

S> hospital or meedical plan or something!

Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk

Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03

323/209/199 Age 62 Fair is whatever God decides to do.

[Guest guest]

Hello All

My name is from Utah. My mother's blood glucose is 350.

A friend of mine suggested noni juice to help reducing my mother's blood

glucose.

Will noni juice help? Anyone knows about noni juice?

Please advise.

Best regards