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my symptoms included (it did not occur to me at the

time that they had anything to do with the

implant)included :hives, nausea, joint pain, fatigue.

I lucked out and met a terrific lady in Alaska- Dr.

Sara Troxell. She told me right away what was going

on- operated and saved my life. Kind of woman you

could really hate. Smart beatiful, well behaved kids,

drop dead gorgeous husband, highly compatent- you know

the type! Thank God for her ! Good luck- nancy

--- ~*Patty*~ <fdp@...> wrote:

> " Indysurvivor " , could you please respond to Susie at

> susan@... ? You could copy us too!

> Thanks!

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: at Premiere TV

> '~*Patty*~'

> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 8:46 AM

> Subject: RE: Forwarded for your benefit..from the

> Saline Group

>

>

> Thank you so much for the info.! What were your

> symptoms before you had them removed? Did you have

> signs of infection?

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>

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>

> ----- Original Message -----

>

>

> From: indysurvivor@...

>

>

>

> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 3:38 PM

>

> Subject: Re: Fw: Please post ...

> another woman needs support

>

>

>

> My first thought was for you to GET ALL OF YOUR

> MEDICAL RECORDS. There are

> both medical and legal reasons why you need to do

> this immediately. I have

> heard of too many cases where things can no longer

> be documented and it

> detrimentally affects the persons medical care (docs

> need to kow what type

> implnat, etc) and yes, their prospects of a legal

> suit if they ever decide to

> pursue that down the road.

>

> I am sorry, but I cannot recommend anyone is your

> area, but I will say this

> and I have said this many times before. Travel,

> travel, travel if necessary.

> Very few docs can remove them properly, but I only

> know of one who has an

> aftercare program and that is what you must have.

> It is not enough to remove

> saline implants. Almost all of them are infected

> upon removal.

>

> Dr. Kolb has a website. Her facility is

> called " Plastikos " - its in

> Atlanta Georgia. Look, I realize that is not what

> you were hoping to hear.

> But, I had to have the explantation surgery done

> twice!!!! because the first

> doctor, who supposedly is renown in Ohio, left

> capsules in me. Additionally,

> that doctor had absolutely NO aftercare program at

> all, and in fact basically

> said I would have to go to a rhumatologist in New

> York!! I live in INDY, and

> my problem was infections (as is almost always the

> case with saline)- not

> rhumatological problems.

>

> My point is- travel and do whatever it takes to get

> the best care possible.

> You have now had two sets of implants, and you are

> ill. You cannot go to any

> plastic surgeon anymore. You need the best, and you

> cannot leave anything to

> chance. Thinking of the expense is stressful- well

> think of the expense when

> you go through it all and then realize it wasn't

> done properly and it has to

> be done again. You cannot go to someone who doesn't

> understand the need for

> aftercare- virtually all saline implants that are

> removed contain fungal and

> bacterial infections, and the time to determine what

> is making you sick is @

> the time of implant. If you go to a doc than is not

> knowledgeable of this

> fact, they wont even look for this- they will not do

> cultutures, they wont

> advise you to get your implants tested, they may

> even, as happended in my

> case, put em in fermaldehyde which in my opinion is

> a blatant attempt to

> destroy evidence and it obviousuly makes it more

> difficult for you to find

> out what it is that is making you ill- that means

> they can't tailor the

> medicine you need. Youll be stuck taking general

> meds that cover a wide

> variety, rather than specifically what has infected

> you.

>

> You must ask whomever you chose if they have a plan

> for you after removal- if

> they do not, go elsewhere, its just that simple.

> And, yes, get those records

> asap!

>

> indysurvivor@...

>

>

> PS- I traveled 18 hours total, and stayed in a hotel

> for a week, just to have

> Dr. Kolb do the surgery and come up with the

> appropriate aftercare I needed.

> It sucked and I came home pretty light in the

> pockets, but had I gone to her

> the first time, I would have saved thoudsands and a

> lot of needless pain and

> suffering. Go to anyone you want just ask the right

> questions and trust your

> instincts!!!! Take care and be smart about the

> decisions you are about to

> make!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Are all of your symptoms resolved and have you gone on to be healthy now? If

so how long did it take to get well?

----- Original Message -----

From: " N Teunis " <kestrelnst@...>

< >

Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 12:18 PM

Subject: Re: Fw: Forwarded for your benefit..from the Saline

Group

> my symptoms included (it did not occur to me at the

> time that they had anything to do with the

> implant)included :hives, nausea, joint pain, fatigue.

> I lucked out and met a terrific lady in Alaska- Dr.

> Sara Troxell. She told me right away what was going

> on- operated and saved my life. Kind of woman you

> could really hate. Smart beatiful, well behaved kids,

> drop dead gorgeous husband, highly compatent- you know

> the type! Thank God for her ! Good luck- nancy

> --- ~*Patty*~ <fdp@...> wrote:

> > " Indysurvivor " , could you please respond to Susie at

> > susan@... ? You could copy us too!

> > Thanks!

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: at Premiere TV

> > '~*Patty*~'

> > Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 8:46 AM

> > Subject: RE: Forwarded for your benefit..from the

> > Saline Group

> >

> >

> > Thank you so much for the info.! What were your

> > symptoms before you had them removed? Did you have

> > signs of infection?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> >

> >

> > From: indysurvivor@...

> >

> >

> >

> > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 3:38 PM

> >

> > Subject: Re: Fw: Please post ...

> > another woman needs support

> >

> >

> >

> > My first thought was for you to GET ALL OF YOUR

> > MEDICAL RECORDS. There are

> > both medical and legal reasons why you need to do

> > this immediately. I have

> > heard of too many cases where things can no longer

> > be documented and it

> > detrimentally affects the persons medical care (docs

> > need to kow what type

> > implnat, etc) and yes, their prospects of a legal

> > suit if they ever decide to

> > pursue that down the road.

> >

> > I am sorry, but I cannot recommend anyone is your

> > area, but I will say this

> > and I have said this many times before. Travel,

> > travel, travel if necessary.

> > Very few docs can remove them properly, but I only

> > know of one who has an

> > aftercare program and that is what you must have.

> > It is not enough to remove

> > saline implants. Almost all of them are infected

> > upon removal.

> >

> > Dr. Kolb has a website. Her facility is

> > called " Plastikos " - its in

> > Atlanta Georgia. Look, I realize that is not what

> > you were hoping to hear.

> > But, I had to have the explantation surgery done

> > twice!!!! because the first

> > doctor, who supposedly is renown in Ohio, left

> > capsules in me. Additionally,

> > that doctor had absolutely NO aftercare program at

> > all, and in fact basically

> > said I would have to go to a rhumatologist in New

> > York!! I live in INDY, and

> > my problem was infections (as is almost always the

> > case with saline)- not

> > rhumatological problems.

> >

> > My point is- travel and do whatever it takes to get

> > the best care possible.

> > You have now had two sets of implants, and you are

> > ill. You cannot go to any

> > plastic surgeon anymore. You need the best, and you

> > cannot leave anything to

> > chance. Thinking of the expense is stressful- well

> > think of the expense when

> > you go through it all and then realize it wasn't

> > done properly and it has to

> > be done again. You cannot go to someone who doesn't

> > understand the need for

> > aftercare- virtually all saline implants that are

> > removed contain fungal and

> > bacterial infections, and the time to determine what

> > is making you sick is @

> > the time of implant. If you go to a doc than is not

> > knowledgeable of this

> > fact, they wont even look for this- they will not do

> > cultutures, they wont

> > advise you to get your implants tested, they may

> > even, as happended in my

> > case, put em in fermaldehyde which in my opinion is

> > a blatant attempt to

> > destroy evidence and it obviousuly makes it more

> > difficult for you to find

> > out what it is that is making you ill- that means

> > they can't tailor the

> > medicine you need. Youll be stuck taking general

> > meds that cover a wide

> > variety, rather than specifically what has infected

> > you.

> >

> > You must ask whomever you chose if they have a plan

> > for you after removal- if

> > they do not, go elsewhere, its just that simple.

> > And, yes, get those records

> > asap!

> >

> > indysurvivor@...

> >

> >

> > PS- I traveled 18 hours total, and stayed in a hotel

> > for a week, just to have

> > Dr. Kolb do the surgery and come up with the

> > appropriate aftercare I needed.

> > It sucked and I came home pretty light in the

> > pockets, but had I gone to her

> > the first time, I would have saved thoudsands and a

> > lot of needless pain and

> > suffering. Go to anyone you want just ask the right

> > questions and trust your

> > instincts!!!! Take care and be smart about the

> > decisions you are about to

> > make!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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