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Hi Ladies,

'Wanted to let you know that a couple of years ago, I went through a period

of bones in my feet breaking while I was in bed asleep. I was astounded,

yet my PCP said he had seen this fairly often with BI patients, ans not

necessarily the ones on some kind of steroids, which I was not taking at the

time. His reasoning is that steroids will turn your bones to 'dust'! So,

there really was no reasonable explanation for my bones breaking while I

slept.....yet, it happened 3 times!

Blessings,

MM

Martha Murdock, Director

National Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters

" Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices "

4416 Willow Lane

Dallas, TX 75244-7537

----- Original Message -----

From: " ronpatgordi4 " <ronpat@...>

< >

Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:35 PM

Subject: Re: breast pain

> You could be me!! I even have had carpel tunnel surgery done on both

> hands and still hurt! Not to scare you but, I was just walking and

> the bone on the outside of my left foot broke. No reason why!! A year

> later a tumor was removed from the same area. I, to this day, swear

> it was silicone!!

> I now have saline but don't know what kind. They were put in in 97.

> My 3rd set.

> Take care. PJ

>

>

>

> - In @y..., " xxxxxx xxxxxx " <rivkeh1967@h...> wrote:

> > hi Ari,

> >

> > I too have saline, mine are textured, implanted in 1996, so a

> similar

> > vintage so to speak. I also have breast pain, memory loss, hair

> loss,

> > extreme fatigue, painful wrists, fingers and other joints, I have a

> bunch of

> > other symptoms too and I feel very old for my 35 years. I was

> healthy

> > before implants....

> >

> > Glad to hear you are set for explant soon,

> >

> > love Rivkeh :)

> >

> >

> > >From: " ariaded " <Ariaded@a...>

> > >Reply- @y...

> > > @y...

> > >Subject: breast pain

> > >Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 23:26:47 -0000

> > >

> > > I have Saline not sure if they are smooth or textured since Jan

> 97.

> > >I noticed the sound before and I thought it was my shoulder but I

> > >really notice that it is coming from my breast recently. Other

> > >problems I am experiencing and could be related. Hair loss,

> fatigue,

> > >painful wrists and fingers although recently I have also noticed it

> > >everywhere. Anxiety but have not had one lately. Just about

> monthly

> > >yeast infections. Oh I forgot, when I get up from bed my ankles

> feel

> > >weird like they hurt a bit. Excessive heart burn at least once a

> week

> > >accompanied by a lovely gift of gallstones & finally Back pain

> from

> > >my breasts beign too big. I sure am feeling old for my age.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _________________________________________________________________

> > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger:

> http://messenger.msn.com

>

>

>

>

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>From: " ronpatgordi4 " <ronpat@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: breast pain

>Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 03:35:56 -0000

>

>You could be me!! I even have had carpel tunnel surgery done on both

>hands and still hurt! Not to scare you but, I was just walking and

>the bone on the outside of my left foot broke. No reason why!! A year

>later a tumor was removed from the same area. I, to this day, swear

>it was silicone!!

>I now have saline but don't know what kind. They were put in in 97.

>My 3rd set.

>Take care. PJ

>

>

>

>- In @y..., " xxxxxx xxxxxx " <rivkeh1967@h...> wrote:

> > hi Ari,

> >

> > I too have saline, mine are textured, implanted in 1996, so a

>similar

> > vintage so to speak. I also have breast pain, memory loss, hair

>loss,

> > extreme fatigue, painful wrists, fingers and other joints, I have a

>bunch of

> > other symptoms too and I feel very old for my 35 years. I was

>healthy

> > before implants....

> >

> > Glad to hear you are set for explant soon,

> >

> > love Rivkeh :)

> >

> >

> > >From: " ariaded " <Ariaded@a...>

> > >Reply- @y...

> > > @y...

> > >Subject: breast pain

> > >Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 23:26:47 -0000

> > >

> > > I have Saline not sure if they are smooth or textured since Jan

>97.

> > >I noticed the sound before and I thought it was my shoulder but I

> > >really notice that it is coming from my breast recently. Other

> > >problems I am experiencing and could be related. Hair loss,

>fatigue,

> > >painful wrists and fingers although recently I have also noticed it

> > >everywhere. Anxiety but have not had one lately. Just about

>monthly

> > >yeast infections. Oh I forgot, when I get up from bed my ankles

>feel

> > >weird like they hurt a bit. Excessive heart burn at least once a

>week

> > >accompanied by a lovely gift of gallstones & finally Back pain

>from

> > >my breasts beign too big. I sure am feeling old for my age.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _________________________________________________________________

> > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger:

>http://messenger.msn.com

>

Thanks PJ,

sorry to hear of all your problems. I am hoping that post explant for me,

things will improve,

love Rivkeh :)

_________________________________________________________________

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Wow your third set huh? Did you have health problems right away with the

first ones too or just after you replaced them?

hugs

----- Original Message -----

From: " xxxxxx xxxxxx " <rivkeh1967@...>

< >

Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 4:02 AM

Subject: Re: Re: breast pain

>

>

>

> >From: " ronpatgordi4 " <ronpat@...>

> >Reply-

> >

> >Subject: Re: breast pain

> >Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 03:35:56 -0000

> >

> >You could be me!! I even have had carpel tunnel surgery done on both

> >hands and still hurt! Not to scare you but, I was just walking and

> >the bone on the outside of my left foot broke. No reason why!! A year

> >later a tumor was removed from the same area. I, to this day, swear

> >it was silicone!!

> >I now have saline but don't know what kind. They were put in in 97.

> >My 3rd set.

> >Take care. PJ

> >

> >

> >

> >- In @y..., " xxxxxx xxxxxx " <rivkeh1967@h...> wrote:

> > > hi Ari,

> > >

> > > I too have saline, mine are textured, implanted in 1996, so a

> >similar

> > > vintage so to speak. I also have breast pain, memory loss, hair

> >loss,

> > > extreme fatigue, painful wrists, fingers and other joints, I have a

> >bunch of

> > > other symptoms too and I feel very old for my 35 years. I was

> >healthy

> > > before implants....

> > >

> > > Glad to hear you are set for explant soon,

> > >

> > > love Rivkeh :)

> > >

> > >

> > > >From: " ariaded " <Ariaded@a...>

> > > >Reply- @y...

> > > > @y...

> > > >Subject: breast pain

> > > >Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 23:26:47 -0000

> > > >

> > > > I have Saline not sure if they are smooth or textured since Jan

> >97.

> > > >I noticed the sound before and I thought it was my shoulder but I

> > > >really notice that it is coming from my breast recently. Other

> > > >problems I am experiencing and could be related. Hair loss,

> >fatigue,

> > > >painful wrists and fingers although recently I have also noticed it

> > > >everywhere. Anxiety but have not had one lately. Just about

> >monthly

> > > >yeast infections. Oh I forgot, when I get up from bed my ankles

> >feel

> > > >weird like they hurt a bit. Excessive heart burn at least once a

> >week

> > > >accompanied by a lovely gift of gallstones & finally Back pain

> >from

> > > >my breasts beign too big. I sure am feeling old for my age.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _________________________________________________________________

> > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger:

> >http://messenger.msn.com

> >

>

>

> Thanks PJ,

>

> sorry to hear of all your problems. I am hoping that post explant for me,

> things will improve,

>

> love Rivkeh :)

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

>

>

>

>

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It is sickening! Thanks for the input!

>From: "mellindahl" <mellindahl@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: breast pain >Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 18:14:04 -0000 > > > >I know for a fact Rheumies were involved in approving implants in >Canada atleast. My mom is the secretary of one who did testing, that >is the only reason we felt they were safe. Just search for Dr. > Tugwell you will see implant articles. He wrote about their >safety in articles that most rheumetologists read because he is well- >known. > > > > >Rogene, I am wondering more and more why these rhuemies are so >against the thought that implants are making women ill. Remember >what i went through with that one? Perhaps the implant manufacters >have been on to this, and have on a regular basis-sent studies >specifically to rhuemies, knowing that implanted women will be >coming in groves, with these wide array of auto immnue symptoms >searching for answers. As, that what implants are known to cause/ >Love julie > > > > > >

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,

Fibromyalgia can be cured . . . Actually, it's not a

disease, but a collection of symptoms (a Syndrome)

with enough in common to be given a name. It shows up

afer toxin exposure, accidents, major stress, etc. . .

IMHO, things that cause us to develop a sleep

deficiency for an extended period.

For myself, I can manage my FM until I don't know I

have it. . . Even my massage therapist says I don't

feel at all like a FM patient anymore. The big change

came when I started supplementing with magnesium.

Here's a website where you can get an incredible

amount of information about Magnesium.

http://www.magnesiumresearchlab.com/ I met this doctor

through a website for Erythromelagia. He established

this research lab as he found the answers to his own

health problems. He has information you can give to

your doctors, and, if I remember right, will talk to

your doctor.

With the information I gained there, my EM is gone!

Magnesium is required for the production of over 300

enzymes our body needs. Very, very important . . .

And, as it turns out, our modern diet is very

deficient in it!

It's a wonder that everyone isn't developing FM . . .

OR are they?

Hugs,

Rogene

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Annie,

My insurance pays for almost all my medical care . . .

but I still don't like it when a doctor orders a bunch

of tests (many just run by my primary care doctor),

then doesn't bother giving me the results. I finally

went by and picked up a copy. But, based on the time

it took them to copy them, feel that I got a sanitized

copy of my records.

All in all, my insurance company spent $4000 trying to

find out why my feet were burning. When I figured it

out for myself, (magnesium deficiency), and took the

information to my primary care doctor, she recommended

a naturopathic doctor. . . . I've been doing great

since then!

It's a rare rheumy who will acknowledge the implant

connection, or advise a patient to have them removed.

That's a doctor worth staying with. Most of us haven't

been that fortunate!

My thyroid problems, as well as my early osteoporosis

have cleared up since getting explanted, detoxing and

supplementing with Magnesium.

Unfortunately, insurance doesn't cover naturopathic

care or supplements! . . . That's OK though . . . as

long as I'm doing this well, I'll pay the bill! I just

wish it was at least tax deductible . . . But the AMA

is going to use their political clout to keep that

from happening.

Hugs,

Rogene

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,

That is so true! . . . Until you get your implants

out, you're just treading water . . . But, hopefully

you can keep from getting worse while you wait.

You can supplement Magnesium up to the point of

diarrea. Then back off. Just be sure you are using 2

parts Calcium to 1 part Magnesium.

Dr. M went up to 13,000 mg a day before backing off!

Hugs,

Rogene

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