Guest guest Posted September 2, 2002 Report Share Posted September 2, 2002 Subject: from Ilena > Subject: > Date: > Sat, 31 Aug 2002 04:49:58 +0000 > From: > " ilena rose " <ilena2000@...> > To: > pureheart@..., fdp@... > > > August 31, 2002 > > Dearest Friends, > > As many of you know, at the end of May I disconnected from my computer > and my new family and I set out on an adventure South of the Border. > Today I wanted to say hello > to you all ... it's my 8 year anniversary of becoming involved in this > Cause. > > This is the third extended trip in my life to Latin America ... and it's > a blast being around Spanish and exploring and living in totally > different cultures again. Watching their TV > and reading their magazines ... and seeing how much of the " American > Dream " permeates even the poorest of Nations ... is always an opening to > discuss the topic of breast > implants . everyone always has an opinion. And everyone is interested. > > KKJ published a very informative piece awhile back about old implants > being basically " dumped " on the Mexican doctors ... and how they > slithered their way back to the States > ... > > Also, a woman named Vica Andrade is a well known model from Costa Rica > living in Mexico ... she's a bit on the edge with her work ... yet she > is the only Latina I have > discovered who has spoken out about her implant problems and her name > comes up all the time when people learn about our Cause. I'd love to > meet others. > > I'm very much working to get an article on the hazards of implants > published in Spanish, and someone is setting me up for a tour of one of > the Plastic Surgery Factories they have > in several countries ... the very aggressive PS's advertise that women > can get more done for less plus have a free vacation ... it's quite > shocking how much PR and advertising > goes on here. > > I was pleased to read the topic discussed in the Spanish edition of > Cosmopolitan from February. 2002 in their Cosmo Confessions was a piece > entitled " drama de melones " > [Melon Drama] ... o, 23 years ago, tells the tale of always being > attracted to women with big busts, but was turned off when his slim, > small breasted girlfriend, who he > admired for her self confidence in her body, slipped away for a vacation > and reappeared with implants. It was the demise of their previously > good relationship. > > We're going back on the road soon and I will again be away from > computers again for the most part, so I wanted to make a few comments > and congratulate and thank Kathi > Pureheart and all the rest of you who are still working to keep the > women connected and the information flowing. Everytime I check my email, > there are new women asking to > connect with others and filled with the same questions you have had ... > > For those wanting more support ... I also recommend these groups: > > The Saline Support group run by & Patty > / > > Lany's Prayer Group is a great sources of support and good information. > Pam Young is doing an excellent job of raising awareness there of the > dangers of Tram Flaps, too. > > SBIPrayerForum/ > > I've just learned of a new group for women with implants and MS: > > BreastImplants_MultipleSclerosis/ > > On the flip(ped out) side ... both my ilena@... and > ilena2000@... emails have become totally highjacked ... in the > last few weeks I've had hundreds and > hundreds of emails sent in those names, some with viruses attached ... > some signing me up to lists that clog my email accounts ... none of them > from me. > > They can't get into my mailboxes ... they just phoney up the return > address to look like it came from me (and some of you, too.) Fun game > for them. Confusion is the Devil's > Tool. > > If you receive something suspicious, please send it to me with the > headers . we have quite a bit of evidence of the source of this email > terrorism. Unfortunately, Kathi is now > having the same done to her emails, so desperate are " they " to dis-unite > and infect this wonderful support system. > > I just got some great greetings from women in our group welcoming me > back, saying they had heard from me and I was announcing a meeing and > various other messages ... > none originated from me however. I always got requests to rejoin my > lists ... currently I can not do it via Hotmail and rented computers > ... I recommend getting on Kathi's lists.. > > Also, right before I left, Mine Enemies learned that my good friend and > former spouse, was named . According to what was posted on the > newsgroup, and the scores of > messages I got from you ... they used his name and to send out a > message pretending it was from me ... while letting all the readers know > I was in Costa Rica at the time. That > too, was not from me, but it certainly gave them a field day to blast me > publically on the newsgroup. > > I heard this week from and Kathi about women needing help to fund > their implant surgeries. Kathi was correct in sharing that the > Humantics Foundation has funded 4 > women's explants ... however unfortunately, after 9/11, no funds have > been made available to do any more explants ... or even day to day > operations. > > Kathi mentioned critieria and the selection process ... the women we > were able to help had these criteria ... > > 1) Their choice was to take out the implants and scar tissue completely > ... and not re-implant. Some had reconstruction with their own tissue > ... and some did not. > > 2) None of these four women had insurance or any other means to have > them removed. > > I know there are many women in need of this surgery, and I salute any > and all of you who can find a way to help these oft forgotten women. I > only wish we could have done > more. > > We have a new " regular " on the newsgroup right now ... Dave Angelotti > from Dow is there " educating " his professional " viewpoint " about the > separation between Papa and > Baby Dow, he apparently forgetting that Papa Chemical is 50% owner of > Baby Dow. > > Rogene and some of other women have been working very hard to educate > the web ...and other ... PS's who put out dishonest information about > implant safety. Here's one > website with a " survey " that you may wish to visit and leave your > experiences. > > http://implantforum.com/surlink.html > > Another are the forums at: > > http://implantinfo.com/ ... > > One possible group project could be the gather web PS's addresses and > have someone put together a very descriptive, fact filled letter ... > publish it on the newsgroup and the > other boards ... basically putting these Medical Deities on notice that > they need to get honest with the women. > > When I did the Basden TV show, Talk or Walk in January, > > http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/media.htm > > the PS on with me was telling me that silicone was " inert " and also let > me know he did around 40 new implanted women a week ... multiple that > conservatively by just $4,000 > per and that brings around $8 MILLION dollars into his practice a year. > It seems to have affected his judgement. That income didn't count for > all his explants ... what a Money > Machine he has set up. > > >From my experience with the Junk Science / Silicone Manufacturers / > Plastic Surgeons' massive PR Campaign to " bring back silicone " and > exonerate poor Dow and the other > manufacturers ... to the depths of my soul I believe, > > " If not now, then when? > > If not us, then whom? " > > If your life experiences around your implants do not make it into some > sort of medium (newspapers, magazines, TV, the internet, etc.) ... the > public and those women looking for > true information will get nothing but bought & sold PR/ádvertising. > > I believe that all the disruption and viruses (email and personalities) > that plague our group ... from within and without ... are based on the > above wanting to change history, > remove as much of the damning evidence against them from the internet, > and continue to have women turn against each other ... assuring the ever > famous Divide & Conquer. > > My opinion is: > > DOW ... Doing Others Wrong ... wants their deservedly damaged image > squeaky clean ... they don't want people to know that nary a penny has > been paid a woman since they > slithered into bankruptcy in mid 1995 ... they want to be known as the > generous, caring corporation who have paid billions to women, not > because they are guilty of anything > wrong ... but in spite of the fact that implants are " safe " ... they > care. > > Here is some of the latest PR . does this really sound like a bankrupt > corporation? > > http://www.dowcorning.com/content/news/pr_q22002.asp > http://www.dowcorning.com/content/announce/new_dow_corning.asp > > I can't imagine a more difficult and complex issue than this one ... and > one that touches so many so deeply. This issue truly encompasses > EveryWoman ... there is no simple > profile for women who choose implants for many, many reasons. > > God bless you all ... please stay close together and keep loving and > support each other .. > > I apologize for not personally responding to most emails right now ... I > do read them eventually and try to pass them on to someone who can help. > > > > Love always, > > Ilena > > ilena2000@... > > http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2002 Report Share Posted September 24, 2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: " Kathi " <pureheart@...> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 1:31 AM Subject: from Ilena > Hello- > I read with interest the article on Dr Mercola's Website > regarding implants. > I tried to contact you via phone 858-270-0680 and > was referred to 2 websites that I am not able to access. Are > there any > other contact names or websites that you can recommend? > I would really like to talk to someone with knowledge of this > issue as I am > stuggling with some neck/ shoulder/ and headache > pain that I feel is probably related. Thank You, > Derheim (952) > 920-3138 " Derheim, L " <NDerheim@...> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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