RE: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant surgery on June 21

[Guest guest]

She is much less likely to qualify for charitable funds as she had full

insurance in New York. Out best bet is to find her a surgeon in the state

where she is covered. I have done many charitable explants and even gotten

the hospitals to cover OR and anesthesia fees but this will be very

difficult with her insurance situation. You have to prove you have no

resources to qualify for these charitable programs. .

-----Original Message-----

From: Heer [mailto:idagirl@...]

Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:50 AM

Subject: Re: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant

surgery on June 21

I am not trying to put any pressure on you at all I just thought that

being a Dr you might at least be able to give us some ideas as to what we

could do to set up some kind of trust or something.

hugs

----- Original Message -----

From: " Heer " <idagirl@...>

< >

Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:34 AM

Subject: Re: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant

surgery on June 21

> Ladies there has to be something we can do to help J. Dr Kolb I am

pleading

> with you, would you somehow take this case on as a charitable type thing.

It

> could help you to earn a reputation for caring and compassion, while I

> realize that it could sprout others looking for free surgery, I feel it

> would be such a good thing for you, I plead to you, is there nothing you

can

> do?

>

> I don't know what the deal is J, but yes if we set up some kind of fund

that

> was held in trust for you, I would donate to it. My only issue is I am so

> totally clueless about these kind of issues.

>

> Anyone out there have any ideas?

>

> Let me know

> HUGS

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " JHH7 " <rogerlh@...>

> < >

> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:47 PM

> Subject: Re: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant

> surgery on June 21

>

>

> > I am interested to know under what circumstances explant is an emergency

> > procedure?

> > And what the circumstances of Laynes was?

> > Anyone else have explant covered as an emergency?

> >

> > That is how the dr. here made it sound extremely " urgent " she said, take

> > care of it " immediately " but I don't see anyone rushing me in as if it

> were

> > truly emergent.

> >

> > My insurance definitely covers explants of extracapsular ruptured

spilling

> > silicone as well as lymph's, not to mention calcifications that could

be

> > cancer. There is no doubt it is a medically necessary procedure and NOT

> > elective and covered by my insurance. It is not elective surgery. No one

> > elects to have this spilling in there body and being absorbed through

out

> > their lymph system.

> > But try to find a dr. who is willing to accept the insurance.

> >

> > OUT OF STATE PROVIDERS for me I am told:

> > for an out of state provider to be covered it would have to be an

> > emergency. My dr. here is willing to write a letter stating that and

that

> > my condition is worsening and really needs immediate attention. But I am

> > not sure that is what constitutes an emergency procedure like Layne

> > mentions in this post back then. That is why I am trying to understand

> her

> > situation.

> >

> > My care has waited too long already. No one should have to wait months

on

> > end and it has progressed significantly. My original surgeon as you know

> > delayed my care far too long. The longer this goes the less chance of

> > cleaning it up and having a reduction in my medical problems.

> >

> > But now with the thought that a lymphoma could be in the mix with all

the

> > other issues in my groin only further adds to the need to have this done

> > quickly.

> >

> > Dr. Feng opted out of Medicare - so there would be no hope of

> > reimbursement. I have no money to pay out of pocket!!! The travel

expenses

> > alone is a hardship.

> >

> > , I have been on disability for a VERY long time/ YEARS and have

no

> > assets what so ever. It is terrible - - I barely have enough money for

my

> > food and personal needs. I was young when I first go sick so my

disability

> > is next to nothing.

> > This is it. I have been struggling for so many years and have tons of

> > medical bills for things that were not covered like optical, dental,

et.,

> > and some co.-pays but over many many years it adds up to a lot of

medical

> > bills. I am single and have no idea what people do and how they manage.

> >

> > I had a very bright future until I became so ill.

> >

> > The only help I get now is Medicaid secondary (Medicare primary) which

has

> > now helped from incurring more medical debt. I don't even have money for

> my

> > prescription medications. Now Medicaid has prescription coverage.

> >

> > This is so demoralizing and painful to even talk about. I came from a

very

> > nice hard working middle class family but everyone has died.

> >

> > START A DONATION FUND PLEASE

> > I thought of that.........maybe a donation fund.......if we could ask

> > people to just donate what they can.

> > I had thought if we could get 200 people to donate $50. each I would

> almost

> > have enough to go.

> >

> > It makes me so mad all the " foundation " / funds people get for this or

> that

> > .....you know all those righteous issues and NOT for medical care. I

don't

> > want to ruffle any feathers, but it does totally dishearten me. This is

> > America, why can't I go to the appropriate surgeon and get the necessary

> > care?

> >

> > It doesn't look like someone is going to come in and sweep me off my

feet

> > nor am I going to be in a position to receive jewelry of any value to

> sell.

> >

> > Well, those are my thoughts.

> > I would still like to know what constitutes and emergency explant???

> > I still don't know and my case is very advanced.

> >

> > I am sorry to post all this but I did see a request for more

> participation.

> >

> >

> > Thanks.

> > I hope Layne or others will respond.

> > Thank you for listening.

> >

> > Warmly,

> > J-

> > ----------

> > > From: Heer <idagirl@...>

> > >

> > > Subject: Re: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION

explant

> > surgery on June 21

> > > Date: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 11:23 PM

> > >

> > > J

> > >

> > > I would think that there has got to be a way to get this covered with

> > your

> > > insurance somehow. Is Dr Feng totally uinable to accept the insurance

> you

> > > have? Hqave you considered getting a letter from a former patient like

> > me,

> > > what about if we formed a bunch of signatures and got everyone to

donate

> > a

> > > small amount of money to help you along. Is there no way you can come

up

> > > with some cash like seelling a ring or something of value? Think and

let

> > me

> > > know what ideas you have!@

> > > hugs to you

> > > c

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: " JHH7 " <rogerlh@...>

> > > < >

> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 7:06 PM

> > > Subject: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant

> > surgery

> > > on June 21

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hi Layne,

> > > >

> > > > I hope you don't mind my asking a question so late after your post.

> > > >

> > > > I just came across this post and I am DESPERATELY trying to get my

> very

> > > > ruptured silicone implants explanted.

> > > >

> > > > You mention that your insurance covered it as an " emergency

> procedure. "

> > I

> > > > have been inquiring about that exact issue!!!

> > > >

> > > > Can you tell me more about it being a " emergency " especially in the

> > eyes

> > > of

> > > > your insurance. I really could use some input on this. My dr. said

he

> > will

> > > > write the insurance co.

> > > >

> > > > Anything you can share with me would be most appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you very much in advance.

> > > > J

> > > >

> > > > ----------

> > > > > From: Laynie1434@...

> > > > >

> > > > > Subject: Re: explant surgery on June 21

> > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:50 PM

> > > > >

> > > > ,

> > > >

> > > > Wow, you really went through alot! I had no idea of what you went

> > through.

> > > > Im

> > > > gald that you will soon have your explant, and be on your way to a

> more

> > > > healthier and happier life. I never went through anything like that

> > > before,

> > > >

> > > > and I could not even imagine what hell you went through. I too had

> mine

> > > for

> > > > 5

> > > > years, and just recently had an infection on my left breast. Test

are

> > > still

> > > >

> > > > being done, and I have not recieved all the information yet. You

> > > mentioned,

> > > >

> > > > that you were saving up the $$$$$, but can't your insurance cover

it,

> > as

> > > an

> > > >

> > > > emergency procedure, and pick up the cost for you? Mine did... Im

just

> > > > courious, because the sooner, the better for you. Gosh, I feel so

> > terrible

> > > > that you had to go through all that. I do wish you the best and hope

> > that

> > > > you

> > > > will stay in touch. I love being connected to women as yourself,

being

> > we

> > > > all

> > > > have something in common. " Implants " .... If I had only knew of all

> this

> > > > sooner, or had known the problems associated with them, I would have

> > > > thought

> > > > twice. Thanks for sharing your story with me!

> > > >

> > > > Your Friend

> > > > Layne

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

As I said below, in greater length..........

" my insurance covers explant, But try to find a dr. who is willing to

accept the insurance. "

Seems to be a catch ? I am a victim of the system!

It seems then, one is in a worse position when they have poor insurance vs

no insurance? Something is not right.

I want to thank the girls who are so kind in offering to help me!!!

I am still trying to learn what qualifies an emergent explant? My dr. is

willing to write the insurance co. and express the ergency? Otherwise,

how does one 'realistically' get explanted with poor insurance?

Thank you for your support! I hope to hear back.

Warmly,

J-

----------

> From: Dr. Kolb <drkolb@...>

>

> Subject: RE: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant

surgery on June 21

> Date: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:23 PM

>

> She is much less likely to qualify for charitable funds as she had full

> insurance in New York. Out best bet is to find her a surgeon in the

state

> where she is covered. I have done many charitable explants and even

gotten

> the hospitals to cover OR and anesthesia fees but this will be very

> difficult with her insurance situation. You have to prove you have no

> resources to qualify for these charitable programs. .

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Heer [mailto:idagirl@...]

> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:50 AM

>

> Subject: Re: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant

> surgery on June 21

>

>

> I am not trying to put any pressure on you at all I just thought

that

> being a Dr you might at least be able to give us some ideas as to what we

> could do to set up some kind of trust or something.

>

> hugs

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Heer " <idagirl@...>

> < >

> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:34 AM

> Subject: Re: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant

> surgery on June 21

>

>

> > Ladies there has to be something we can do to help J. Dr Kolb I am

> pleading

> > with you, would you somehow take this case on as a charitable type

thing.

> It

> > could help you to earn a reputation for caring and compassion, while I

> > realize that it could sprout others looking for free surgery, I feel it

> > would be such a good thing for you, I plead to you, is there nothing

you

> can

> > do?

> >

> > I don't know what the deal is J, but yes if we set up some kind of fund

> that

> > was held in trust for you, I would donate to it. My only issue is I am

so

> > totally clueless about these kind of issues.

> >

> > Anyone out there have any ideas?

> >

> > Let me know

> > HUGS

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " JHH7 " <rogerlh@...>

> > < >

> > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:47 PM

> > Subject: Re: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant

> > surgery on June 21

> >

> >

> > > I am interested to know under what circumstances explant is an

emergency

> > > procedure?

> > > And what the circumstances of Laynes was?

> > > Anyone else have explant covered as an emergency?

> > >

> > > That is how the dr. here made it sound extremely " urgent " she said,

take

> > > care of it " immediately " but I don't see anyone rushing me in as if

it

> > were

> > > truly emergent.

> > >

> > > My insurance definitely covers explants of extracapsular ruptured

> spilling

> > > silicone as well as lymph's, not to mention calcifications that

could

> be

> > > cancer. There is no doubt it is a medically necessary procedure and

NOT

> > > elective and covered by my insurance. It is not elective surgery. No

one

> > > elects to have this spilling in there body and being absorbed through

> out

> > > their lymph system.

> > > But try to find a dr. who is willing to accept the insurance.

> > >

> > > OUT OF STATE PROVIDERS for me I am told:

> > > for an out of state provider to be covered it would have to be an

> > > emergency. My dr. here is willing to write a letter stating that and

> that

> > > my condition is worsening and really needs immediate attention. But I

am

> > > not sure that is what constitutes an emergency procedure like Layne

> > > mentions in this post back then. That is why I am trying to

understand

> > her

> > > situation.

> > >

> > > My care has waited too long already. No one should have to wait

months

> on

> > > end and it has progressed significantly. My original surgeon as you

know

> > > delayed my care far too long. The longer this goes the less chance of

> > > cleaning it up and having a reduction in my medical problems.

> > >

> > > But now with the thought that a lymphoma could be in the mix with all

> the

> > > other issues in my groin only further adds to the need to have this

done

> > > quickly.

> > >

> > > Dr. Feng opted out of Medicare - so there would be no hope of

> > > reimbursement. I have no money to pay out of pocket!!! The travel

> expenses

> > > alone is a hardship.

> > >

> > > , I have been on disability for a VERY long time/ YEARS and

have

> no

> > > assets what so ever. It is terrible - - I barely have enough money

for

> my

> > > food and personal needs. I was young when I first go sick so my

> disability

> > > is next to nothing.

> > > This is it. I have been struggling for so many years and have tons of

> > > medical bills for things that were not covered like optical, dental,

> et.,

> > > and some co.-pays but over many many years it adds up to a lot of

> medical

> > > bills. I am single and have no idea what people do and how they

manage.

> > >

> > > I had a very bright future until I became so ill.

> > >

> > > The only help I get now is Medicaid secondary (Medicare primary)

which

> has

> > > now helped from incurring more medical debt. I don't even have money

for

> > my

> > > prescription medications. Now Medicaid has prescription coverage.

> > >

> > > This is so demoralizing and painful to even talk about. I came from a

> very

> > > nice hard working middle class family but everyone has died.

> > >

> > > START A DONATION FUND PLEASE

> > > I thought of that.........maybe a donation fund.......if we could ask

> > > people to just donate what they can.

> > > I had thought if we could get 200 people to donate $50. each I would

> > almost

> > > have enough to go.

> > >

> > > It makes me so mad all the " foundation " / funds people get for this

or

> > that

> > > .....you know all those righteous issues and NOT for medical care. I

> don't

> > > want to ruffle any feathers, but it does totally dishearten me. This

is

> > > America, why can't I go to the appropriate surgeon and get the

necessary

> > > care?

> > >

> > > It doesn't look like someone is going to come in and sweep me off my

> feet

> > > nor am I going to be in a position to receive jewelry of any value to

> > sell.

> > >

> > > Well, those are my thoughts.

> > > I would still like to know what constitutes and emergency explant???

> > > I still don't know and my case is very advanced.

> > >

> > > I am sorry to post all this but I did see a request for more

> > participation.

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > > I hope Layne or others will respond.

> > > Thank you for listening.

> > >

> > > Warmly,

> > > J-

> > > ----------

> > > > From: Heer <idagirl@...>

> > > >

> > > > Subject: Re: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION

> explant

> > > surgery on June 21

> > > > Date: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 11:23 PM

> > > >

> > > > J

> > > >

> > > > I would think that there has got to be a way to get this covered

with

> > > your

> > > > insurance somehow. Is Dr Feng totally uinable to accept the

insurance

> > you

> > > > have? Hqave you considered getting a letter from a former patient

like

> > > me,

> > > > what about if we formed a bunch of signatures and got everyone to

> donate

> > > a

> > > > small amount of money to help you along. Is there no way you can

come

> up

> > > > with some cash like seelling a ring or something of value? Think

and

> let

> > > me

> > > > know what ideas you have!@

> > > > hugs to you

> > > > c

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > From: " JHH7 " <rogerlh@...>

> > > > < >

> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 7:06 PM

> > > > Subject: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant

> > > surgery

> > > > on June 21

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hi Layne,

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope you don't mind my asking a question so late after your

post.

> > > > >

> > > > > I just came across this post and I am DESPERATELY trying to get

my

> > very

> > > > > ruptured silicone implants explanted.

> > > > >

> > > > > You mention that your insurance covered it as an " emergency

> > procedure. "

> > > I

> > > > > have been inquiring about that exact issue!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Can you tell me more about it being a " emergency " especially in

the

> > > eyes

> > > > of

> > > > > your insurance. I really could use some input on this. My dr.

said

> he

> > > will

> > > > > write the insurance co.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anything you can share with me would be most appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you very much in advance.

> > > > > J

> > > > >

> > > > > ----------

> > > > > > From: Laynie1434@...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Subject: Re: explant surgery on June 21

> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:50 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > >

> > > > > Wow, you really went through alot! I had no idea of what you went

> > > through.

> > > > > Im

> > > > > gald that you will soon have your explant, and be on your way to

a

> > more

> > > > > healthier and happier life. I never went through anything like

that

> > > > before,

> > > > >

> > > > > and I could not even imagine what hell you went through. I too

had

> > mine

> > > > for

> > > > > 5

> > > > > years, and just recently had an infection on my left breast. Test

> are

> > > > still

> > > > >

> > > > > being done, and I have not recieved all the information yet. You

> > > > mentioned,

> > > > >

> > > > > that you were saving up the $$$$$, but can't your insurance cover

> it,

> > > as

> > > > an

> > > > >

> > > > > emergency procedure, and pick up the cost for you? Mine did... Im

> just

> > > > > courious, because the sooner, the better for you. Gosh, I feel so

> > > terrible

> > > > > that you had to go through all that. I do wish you the best and

hope

> > > that

> > > > > you

> > > > > will stay in touch. I love being connected to women as yourself,

> being

> > > we

> > > > > all

> > > > > have something in common. " Implants " .... If I had only knew of

all

> > this

> > > > > sooner, or had known the problems associated with them, I would

have

> > > > > thought

> > > > > twice. Thanks for sharing your story with me!

> > > > >

> > > > > Your Friend

> > > > > Layne

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Do you know any surgeons in NY that she could go to? At this time the only

one on the recomended list is Dr Ahn and she is not able to do the surgery

for some reason.

please advise I am willing to look if I only new where?

----- Original Message -----

From: " Dr. Kolb " <drkolb@...>

< >

Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:23 PM

Subject: RE: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant

surgery on June 21

> She is much less likely to qualify for charitable funds as she had full

> insurance in New York. Out best bet is to find her a surgeon in the state

> where she is covered. I have done many charitable explants and even

gotten

> the hospitals to cover OR and anesthesia fees but this will be very

> difficult with her insurance situation. You have to prove you have no

> resources to qualify for these charitable programs. .

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Heer [mailto:idagirl@...]

> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:50 AM

>

> Subject: Re: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant

> surgery on June 21

>

>

> I am not trying to put any pressure on you at all I just thought

that

> being a Dr you might at least be able to give us some ideas as to what we

> could do to set up some kind of trust or something.

>

> hugs

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Heer " <idagirl@...>

> < >

> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:34 AM

> Subject: Re: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant

> surgery on June 21

>

>

> > Ladies there has to be something we can do to help J. Dr Kolb I am

> pleading

> > with you, would you somehow take this case on as a charitable type

thing.

> It

> > could help you to earn a reputation for caring and compassion, while I

> > realize that it could sprout others looking for free surgery, I feel it

> > would be such a good thing for you, I plead to you, is there nothing you

> can

> > do?

> >

> > I don't know what the deal is J, but yes if we set up some kind of fund

> that

> > was held in trust for you, I would donate to it. My only issue is I am

so

> > totally clueless about these kind of issues.

> >

> > Anyone out there have any ideas?

> >

> > Let me know

> > HUGS

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " JHH7 " <rogerlh@...>

> > < >

> > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:47 PM

> > Subject: Re: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant

> > surgery on June 21

> >

> >

> > > I am interested to know under what circumstances explant is an

emergency

> > > procedure?

> > > And what the circumstances of Laynes was?

> > > Anyone else have explant covered as an emergency?

> > >

> > > That is how the dr. here made it sound extremely " urgent " she said,

take

> > > care of it " immediately " but I don't see anyone rushing me in as if it

> > were

> > > truly emergent.

> > >

> > > My insurance definitely covers explants of extracapsular ruptured

> spilling

> > > silicone as well as lymph's, not to mention calcifications that could

> be

> > > cancer. There is no doubt it is a medically necessary procedure and

NOT

> > > elective and covered by my insurance. It is not elective surgery. No

one

> > > elects to have this spilling in there body and being absorbed through

> out

> > > their lymph system.

> > > But try to find a dr. who is willing to accept the insurance.

> > >

> > > OUT OF STATE PROVIDERS for me I am told:

> > > for an out of state provider to be covered it would have to be an

> > > emergency. My dr. here is willing to write a letter stating that and

> that

> > > my condition is worsening and really needs immediate attention. But I

am

> > > not sure that is what constitutes an emergency procedure like Layne

> > > mentions in this post back then. That is why I am trying to

understand

> > her

> > > situation.

> > >

> > > My care has waited too long already. No one should have to wait months

> on

> > > end and it has progressed significantly. My original surgeon as you

know

> > > delayed my care far too long. The longer this goes the less chance of

> > > cleaning it up and having a reduction in my medical problems.

> > >

> > > But now with the thought that a lymphoma could be in the mix with all

> the

> > > other issues in my groin only further adds to the need to have this

done

> > > quickly.

> > >

> > > Dr. Feng opted out of Medicare - so there would be no hope of

> > > reimbursement. I have no money to pay out of pocket!!! The travel

> expenses

> > > alone is a hardship.

> > >

> > > , I have been on disability for a VERY long time/ YEARS and have

> no

> > > assets what so ever. It is terrible - - I barely have enough money for

> my

> > > food and personal needs. I was young when I first go sick so my

> disability

> > > is next to nothing.

> > > This is it. I have been struggling for so many years and have tons of

> > > medical bills for things that were not covered like optical, dental,

> et.,

> > > and some co.-pays but over many many years it adds up to a lot of

> medical

> > > bills. I am single and have no idea what people do and how they

manage.

> > >

> > > I had a very bright future until I became so ill.

> > >

> > > The only help I get now is Medicaid secondary (Medicare primary) which

> has

> > > now helped from incurring more medical debt. I don't even have money

for

> > my

> > > prescription medications. Now Medicaid has prescription coverage.

> > >

> > > This is so demoralizing and painful to even talk about. I came from a

> very

> > > nice hard working middle class family but everyone has died.

> > >

> > > START A DONATION FUND PLEASE

> > > I thought of that.........maybe a donation fund.......if we could ask

> > > people to just donate what they can.

> > > I had thought if we could get 200 people to donate $50. each I would

> > almost

> > > have enough to go.

> > >

> > > It makes me so mad all the " foundation " / funds people get for this or

> > that

> > > .....you know all those righteous issues and NOT for medical care. I

> don't

> > > want to ruffle any feathers, but it does totally dishearten me. This

is

> > > America, why can't I go to the appropriate surgeon and get the

necessary

> > > care?

> > >

> > > It doesn't look like someone is going to come in and sweep me off my

> feet

> > > nor am I going to be in a position to receive jewelry of any value to

> > sell.

> > >

> > > Well, those are my thoughts.

> > > I would still like to know what constitutes and emergency explant???

> > > I still don't know and my case is very advanced.

> > >

> > > I am sorry to post all this but I did see a request for more

> > participation.

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > > I hope Layne or others will respond.

> > > Thank you for listening.

> > >

> > > Warmly,

> > > J-

> > > ----------

> > > > From: Heer <idagirl@...>

> > > >

> > > > Subject: Re: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION

> explant

> > > surgery on June 21

> > > > Date: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 11:23 PM

> > > >

> > > > J

> > > >

> > > > I would think that there has got to be a way to get this covered

with

> > > your

> > > > insurance somehow. Is Dr Feng totally uinable to accept the

insurance

> > you

> > > > have? Hqave you considered getting a letter from a former patient

like

> > > me,

> > > > what about if we formed a bunch of signatures and got everyone to

> donate

> > > a

> > > > small amount of money to help you along. Is there no way you can

come

> up

> > > > with some cash like seelling a ring or something of value? Think and

> let

> > > me

> > > > know what ideas you have!@

> > > > hugs to you

> > > > c

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > From: " JHH7 " <rogerlh@...>

> > > > < >

> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 7:06 PM

> > > > Subject: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant

> > > surgery

> > > > on June 21

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hi Layne,

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope you don't mind my asking a question so late after your

post.

> > > > >

> > > > > I just came across this post and I am DESPERATELY trying to get my

> > very

> > > > > ruptured silicone implants explanted.

> > > > >

> > > > > You mention that your insurance covered it as an " emergency

> > procedure. "

> > > I

> > > > > have been inquiring about that exact issue!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Can you tell me more about it being a " emergency " especially in

the

> > > eyes

> > > > of

> > > > > your insurance. I really could use some input on this. My dr. said

> he

> > > will

> > > > > write the insurance co.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anything you can share with me would be most appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you very much in advance.

> > > > > J

> > > > >

> > > > > ----------

> > > > > > From: Laynie1434@...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Subject: Re: explant surgery on June 21

> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:50 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > >

> > > > > Wow, you really went through alot! I had no idea of what you went

> > > through.

> > > > > Im

> > > > > gald that you will soon have your explant, and be on your way to a

> > more

> > > > > healthier and happier life. I never went through anything like

that

> > > > before,

> > > > >

> > > > > and I could not even imagine what hell you went through. I too had

> > mine

> > > > for

> > > > > 5

> > > > > years, and just recently had an infection on my left breast. Test

> are

> > > > still

> > > > >

> > > > > being done, and I have not recieved all the information yet. You

> > > > mentioned,

> > > > >

> > > > > that you were saving up the $$$$$, but can't your insurance cover

> it,

> > > as

> > > > an

> > > > >

> > > > > emergency procedure, and pick up the cost for you? Mine did... Im

> just

> > > > > courious, because the sooner, the better for you. Gosh, I feel so

> > > terrible

> > > > > that you had to go through all that. I do wish you the best and

hope

> > > that

> > > > > you

> > > > > will stay in touch. I love being connected to women as yourself,

> being

> > > we

> > > > > all

> > > > > have something in common. " Implants " .... If I had only knew of all

> > this

> > > > > sooner, or had known the problems associated with them, I would

have

> > > > > thought

> > > > > twice. Thanks for sharing your story with me!

> > > > >

> > > > > Your Friend

> > > > > Layne

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

I would suggest that she contact some of the female plastic surgeons who do

breast surgery. She could get referrals from www.plasticsurgery.org.

.

-----Original Message-----

From: Heer [mailto:idagirl@...]

Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 10:06 AM

Subject: Re: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant

surgery on June 21

Do you know any surgeons in NY that she could go to? At this time the only

one on the recomended list is Dr Ahn and she is not able to do the surgery

for some reason.

please advise I am willing to look if I only new where?

----- Original Message -----

From: " Dr. Kolb " <drkolb@...>

< >

Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:23 PM

Subject: RE: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant

surgery on June 21

> She is much less likely to qualify for charitable funds as she had full

> insurance in New York. Out best bet is to find her a surgeon in the state

> where she is covered. I have done many charitable explants and even

gotten

> the hospitals to cover OR and anesthesia fees but this will be very

> difficult with her insurance situation. You have to prove you have no

> resources to qualify for these charitable programs. .

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Heer [mailto:idagirl@...]

> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:50 AM

>

> Subject: Re: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant

> surgery on June 21

>

>

> I am not trying to put any pressure on you at all I just thought

that

> being a Dr you might at least be able to give us some ideas as to what we

> could do to set up some kind of trust or something.

>

> hugs

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Heer " <idagirl@...>

> < >

> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:34 AM

> Subject: Re: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant

> surgery on June 21

>

>

> > Ladies there has to be something we can do to help J. Dr Kolb I am

> pleading

> > with you, would you somehow take this case on as a charitable type

thing.

> It

> > could help you to earn a reputation for caring and compassion, while I

> > realize that it could sprout others looking for free surgery, I feel it

> > would be such a good thing for you, I plead to you, is there nothing you

> can

> > do?

> >

> > I don't know what the deal is J, but yes if we set up some kind of fund

> that

> > was held in trust for you, I would donate to it. My only issue is I am

so

> > totally clueless about these kind of issues.

> >

> > Anyone out there have any ideas?

> >

> > Let me know

> > HUGS

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " JHH7 " <rogerlh@...>

> > < >

> > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:47 PM

> > Subject: Re: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant

> > surgery on June 21

> >

> >

> > > I am interested to know under what circumstances explant is an

emergency

> > > procedure?

> > > And what the circumstances of Laynes was?

> > > Anyone else have explant covered as an emergency?

> > >

> > > That is how the dr. here made it sound extremely " urgent " she said,

take

> > > care of it " immediately " but I don't see anyone rushing me in as if it

> > were

> > > truly emergent.

> > >

> > > My insurance definitely covers explants of extracapsular ruptured

> spilling

> > > silicone as well as lymph's, not to mention calcifications that could

> be

> > > cancer. There is no doubt it is a medically necessary procedure and

NOT

> > > elective and covered by my insurance. It is not elective surgery. No

one

> > > elects to have this spilling in there body and being absorbed through

> out

> > > their lymph system.

> > > But try to find a dr. who is willing to accept the insurance.

> > >

> > > OUT OF STATE PROVIDERS for me I am told:

> > > for an out of state provider to be covered it would have to be an

> > > emergency. My dr. here is willing to write a letter stating that and

> that

> > > my condition is worsening and really needs immediate attention. But I

am

> > > not sure that is what constitutes an emergency procedure like Layne

> > > mentions in this post back then. That is why I am trying to

understand

> > her

> > > situation.

> > >

> > > My care has waited too long already. No one should have to wait months

> on

> > > end and it has progressed significantly. My original surgeon as you

know

> > > delayed my care far too long. The longer this goes the less chance of

> > > cleaning it up and having a reduction in my medical problems.

> > >

> > > But now with the thought that a lymphoma could be in the mix with all

> the

> > > other issues in my groin only further adds to the need to have this

done

> > > quickly.

> > >

> > > Dr. Feng opted out of Medicare - so there would be no hope of

> > > reimbursement. I have no money to pay out of pocket!!! The travel

> expenses

> > > alone is a hardship.

> > >

> > > , I have been on disability for a VERY long time/ YEARS and have

> no

> > > assets what so ever. It is terrible - - I barely have enough money for

> my

> > > food and personal needs. I was young when I first go sick so my

> disability

> > > is next to nothing.

> > > This is it. I have been struggling for so many years and have tons of

> > > medical bills for things that were not covered like optical, dental,

> et.,

> > > and some co.-pays but over many many years it adds up to a lot of

> medical

> > > bills. I am single and have no idea what people do and how they

manage.

> > >

> > > I had a very bright future until I became so ill.

> > >

> > > The only help I get now is Medicaid secondary (Medicare primary) which

> has

> > > now helped from incurring more medical debt. I don't even have money

for

> > my

> > > prescription medications. Now Medicaid has prescription coverage.

> > >

> > > This is so demoralizing and painful to even talk about. I came from a

> very

> > > nice hard working middle class family but everyone has died.

> > >

> > > START A DONATION FUND PLEASE

> > > I thought of that.........maybe a donation fund.......if we could ask

> > > people to just donate what they can.

> > > I had thought if we could get 200 people to donate $50. each I would

> > almost

> > > have enough to go.

> > >

> > > It makes me so mad all the " foundation " / funds people get for this or

> > that

> > > .....you know all those righteous issues and NOT for medical care. I

> don't

> > > want to ruffle any feathers, but it does totally dishearten me. This

is

> > > America, why can't I go to the appropriate surgeon and get the

necessary

> > > care?

> > >

> > > It doesn't look like someone is going to come in and sweep me off my

> feet

> > > nor am I going to be in a position to receive jewelry of any value to

> > sell.

> > >

> > > Well, those are my thoughts.

> > > I would still like to know what constitutes and emergency explant???

> > > I still don't know and my case is very advanced.

> > >

> > > I am sorry to post all this but I did see a request for more

> > participation.

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > > I hope Layne or others will respond.

> > > Thank you for listening.

> > >

> > > Warmly,

> > > J-

> > > ----------

> > > > From: Heer <idagirl@...>

> > > >

> > > > Subject: Re: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION

> explant

> > > surgery on June 21

> > > > Date: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 11:23 PM

> > > >

> > > > J

> > > >

> > > > I would think that there has got to be a way to get this covered

with

> > > your

> > > > insurance somehow. Is Dr Feng totally uinable to accept the

insurance

> > you

> > > > have? Hqave you considered getting a letter from a former patient

like

> > > me,

> > > > what about if we formed a bunch of signatures and got everyone to

> donate

> > > a

> > > > small amount of money to help you along. Is there no way you can

come

> up

> > > > with some cash like seelling a ring or something of value? Think and

> let

> > > me

> > > > know what ideas you have!@

> > > > hugs to you

> > > > c

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > From: " JHH7 " <rogerlh@...>

> > > > < >

> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 7:06 PM

> > > > Subject: Layne emergency procedure QUESTION explant

> > > surgery

> > > > on June 21

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hi Layne,

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope you don't mind my asking a question so late after your

post.

> > > > >

> > > > > I just came across this post and I am DESPERATELY trying to get my

> > very

> > > > > ruptured silicone implants explanted.

> > > > >

> > > > > You mention that your insurance covered it as an " emergency

> > procedure. "

> > > I

> > > > > have been inquiring about that exact issue!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Can you tell me more about it being a " emergency " especially in

the

> > > eyes

> > > > of

> > > > > your insurance. I really could use some input on this. My dr. said

> he

> > > will

> > > > > write the insurance co.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anything you can share with me would be most appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you very much in advance.

> > > > > J

> > > > >

> > > > > ----------

> > > > > > From: Laynie1434@...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Subject: Re: explant surgery on June 21

> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:50 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > >

> > > > > Wow, you really went through alot! I had no idea of what you went

> > > through.

> > > > > Im

> > > > > gald that you will soon have your explant, and be on your way to a

> > more

> > > > > healthier and happier life. I never went through anything like

that

> > > > before,

> > > > >

> > > > > and I could not even imagine what hell you went through. I too had

> > mine

> > > > for

> > > > > 5

> > > > > years, and just recently had an infection on my left breast. Test

> are

> > > > still

> > > > >

> > > > > being done, and I have not recieved all the information yet. You

> > > > mentioned,

> > > > >

> > > > > that you were saving up the $$$$$, but can't your insurance cover

> it,

> > > as

> > > > an

> > > > >

> > > > > emergency procedure, and pick up the cost for you? Mine did... Im

> just

> > > > > courious, because the sooner, the better for you. Gosh, I feel so

> > > terrible

> > > > > that you had to go through all that. I do wish you the best and

hope

> > > that

> > > > > you

> > > > > will stay in touch. I love being connected to women as yourself,

> being

> > > we

> > > > > all

> > > > > have something in common. " Implants " .... If I had only knew of all

> > this

> > > > > sooner, or had known the problems associated with them, I would

have

> > > > > thought

> > > > > twice. Thanks for sharing your story with me!

> > > > >

> > > > > Your Friend

> > > > > Layne

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >