Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 Ari: I have hair loss too (telogen effluvium) it sux! I'm just beginning to grow some hair back in the last few months. -Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2002 Report Share Posted September 12, 2002 I have Saline not sure if they are smooth or textured since Jan 97. I noticed the sound before and I thought it was my shoulder but I really notice that it is coming from my breast recently. Other problems I am experiencing and could be related. Hair loss, fatigue, painful wrists and fingers although recently I have also noticed it everywhere. Anxiety but have not had one lately. Just about monthly yeast infections. Oh I forgot, when I get up from bed my ankles feel weird like they hurt a bit. Excessive heart burn at least once a week accompanied by a lovely gift of gallstones & finally Back pain from my breasts beign too big. I sure am feeling old for my age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2002 Report Share Posted September 12, 2002 Oh my girl you are the exact picture of me with the hand and feet stuff. I tell ya that this still plaques me sometimes, my feet exp. BUt I do feel much much better than with the ugly implants. You will be so much better once you get them out you will be happy too. Who are you going to have do your explant? Is it finances that is keeping you from getting it done sooner? Please make sure to go to a good surgeon, i always recomend mine, because she is so good at this and knowledgable, but there are some others who are excellent as well. I hope you will make sure you get to one of them. Also make sure to do things to help yourself. I highly recomend the detoxing methods on the saline site, and Dr Kolb has some excellent ones too. Please hang in there girl and keep on posting to us. We care so much. for you feet may I suggest massage and if you can get to a PT who can do dexamethasone treatments with ultrasound that can help allot, if it is a plantar fascitis thing. I am really sorry you are going through this. Have you had labs checked to see about your iron (ferritin) levels for your hair loss? Big gentle hugs to you sweetie I am your sis in this, you can count on my total support, whatever you need. Also feel free to email me, you can call me too on the phone if you need someone to talk to. I know how you feel, been there, done that. Hugs ----- Original Message ----- From: " ariaded " <Ariaded@...> < > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:26 PM Subject: breast pain > I have Saline not sure if they are smooth or textured since Jan 97. > I noticed the sound before and I thought it was my shoulder but I > really notice that it is coming from my breast recently. Other > problems I am experiencing and could be related. Hair loss, fatigue, > painful wrists and fingers although recently I have also noticed it > everywhere. Anxiety but have not had one lately. Just about monthly > yeast infections. Oh I forgot, when I get up from bed my ankles feel > weird like they hurt a bit. Excessive heart burn at least once a week > accompanied by a lovely gift of gallstones & finally Back pain from > my breasts beign too big. I sure am feeling old for my age. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2002 Report Share Posted September 12, 2002 hi Ari, I too have saline, mine are textured, implanted in 1996, so a similar vintage so to speak. I also have breast pain, memory loss, hair loss, extreme fatigue, painful wrists, fingers and other joints, I have a bunch of other symptoms too and I feel very old for my 35 years. I was healthy before implants.... Glad to hear you are set for explant soon, love Rivkeh >From: " ariaded " <Ariaded@...> >Reply- > >Subject: breast pain >Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 23:26:47 -0000 > > I have Saline not sure if they are smooth or textured since Jan 97. >I noticed the sound before and I thought it was my shoulder but I >really notice that it is coming from my breast recently. Other >problems I am experiencing and could be related. Hair loss, fatigue, >painful wrists and fingers although recently I have also noticed it >everywhere. Anxiety but have not had one lately. Just about monthly >yeast infections. Oh I forgot, when I get up from bed my ankles feel >weird like they hurt a bit. Excessive heart burn at least once a week >accompanied by a lovely gift of gallstones & finally Back pain from >my breasts beign too big. I sure am feeling old for my age. > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2002 Report Share Posted September 12, 2002 You could be me!! I even have had carpel tunnel surgery done on both hands and still hurt! Not to scare you but, I was just walking and the bone on the outside of my left foot broke. No reason why!! A year later a tumor was removed from the same area. I, to this day, swear it was silicone!! I now have saline but don't know what kind. They were put in in 97. My 3rd set. Take care. PJ - In @y..., " xxxxxx xxxxxx " <rivkeh1967@h...> wrote: > hi Ari, > > I too have saline, mine are textured, implanted in 1996, so a similar > vintage so to speak. I also have breast pain, memory loss, hair loss, > extreme fatigue, painful wrists, fingers and other joints, I have a bunch of > other symptoms too and I feel very old for my 35 years. I was healthy > before implants.... > > Glad to hear you are set for explant soon, > > love Rivkeh > > > >From: " ariaded " <Ariaded@a...> > >Reply- @y... > > @y... > >Subject: breast pain > >Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 23:26:47 -0000 > > > > I have Saline not sure if they are smooth or textured since Jan 97. > >I noticed the sound before and I thought it was my shoulder but I > >really notice that it is coming from my breast recently. Other > >problems I am experiencing and could be related. Hair loss, fatigue, > >painful wrists and fingers although recently I have also noticed it > >everywhere. Anxiety but have not had one lately. Just about monthly > >yeast infections. Oh I forgot, when I get up from bed my ankles feel > >weird like they hurt a bit. Excessive heart burn at least once a week > >accompanied by a lovely gift of gallstones & finally Back pain from > >my breasts beign too big. I sure am feeling old for my age. > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 , I also had a rash on my chest, which was associated with my detoxing measures..it was confirmed by my naturopath to be a releasing of the toxins from my breasts during my fast. I got the rash on my breasts every time I fasted, until finally, I was able to fast with no rash appearing. I knew I was making progress then. You are probably going through the worst of it right now. Your body is rejecting the implants big time, and until you can get them out, you may experience different manifestations of illness...hopefully not, but try to be patient and do what you can to help bring relief until your explant date. If it makes you feel any better, the rheumatologist isn't going to be able to do much for you anyway. They really aren't good at helping breast implant victims. Dr. Mercola goes so far as to say that rheumatologists are basically worthless doctors to see, in terms of healing...sure, they can test you and try to help diagnose, but their arsenal involves drugs that suppress symptoms, not cure disease. Even though most doctors will tell you that autoimmune diseases are incurable, there are definitely cases where the disease has gone into permanent remission, never to return. There are many reports of this to be true in the alternative, naturopathic field, and that is where we rest our hope. Certainly, I have experienced healing, but it was no thanks to my rheumatologist, who basically blew me off. I just don't want you to fret. Take this a step at a time, and try to find a sense of peace about your future. Have hope. Your symptoms could be related to nerve inflammation, (the tingling and numbness), and the abdominal pain could be related to immune system dyfunction in the bowel (IBS) or reproductive gland issues. Many of these symptoms will dissipate after explant with detoxing measures. Please take care...do you have any idea on when, or who will do your explant yet? Patty --- In , " mellindahl " <mellindahl@y...> wrote: > > The outer sides of my soon to be explanted breasts have burning pain > and a rash appeared on my chest and abdominal sharp pain folowed in > the shower and it hurt when the water spinkled on em from the shower > head and now I have a burning sensation on my left upper arm. Any > idea what that means, it usually went away but it's still the same > right now. My Rheumatoid doctor just cancelled my appointment again > now I have to wait helpless for 3months while getting my explant > booked. > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 , I doubt there is much the rheumy would do for you. It's interesting he canceled your appointment. It appears that this specialty is determined to deny the connection between implants and illness. The last rheumy I saw was incredibly rude! . . . He denied a connection, ordered $$$$$$ tests, and didn't bother reporting the results back to me, or make a follow up appointment. i.e., IMHO, If he didn't know what to do, he didn't want to deal with me. Doesn't matter . . . In most cases, their diagnoses just serve to alarm women, and their treatments don't help. The symptoms usually start disappearing when the implants come out. Detoxing helps speed the process along. . . After a year or so, the so-called autoimmune problems frequently disappear. That said, if you need help managing your symptoms, see your doctor . . . but not a rheumy! Your symptoms sound like those of many of the women. You body is fighting your implants. . . The rash is evidence that your body is trying to rid itself of the toxins. You may try using a lotion that will reduce the itching/burning (ask the druggist). Soaking in a hot Epsom salt bath will help draw the toxins from your tissues. An excellent detox! The rash may be temporarily worse though. When you start detoxing, you will likely begin to learn about herxing. . . i.e. your symptoms may temporarily increase as the toxins work their way out of your body. Once you recognize the herx effect, you will welcome the sign that your detox program is effective. The trick is to manage it so herxing doesn't become an aversion to detoxing. Take it slow for a while! Hugs and prayers, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Rogene, I am wondering more and more why these rhuemies are so against the thought that implants are making women ill. Remember what i went through with that one? Perhaps the implant manufacters have been on to this, and have on a regular basis-sent studies specifically to rhuemies, knowing that implanted women will be coming in groves, with these wide array of auto immnue symptoms searching for answers. As, that what implants are known to cause/ Love julie >From: Rogene S <saxony01@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: breast pain >Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 06:07:37 -0800 (PST) > > >, > >I doubt there is much the rheumy would do for you. >It's interesting he canceled your appointment. It >appears that this specialty is determined to deny the >connection between implants and illness. The last >rheumy I saw was incredibly rude! . . . He denied a >connection, ordered $$$$$$ tests, and didn't bother >reporting the results back to me, or make a follow up >appointment. i.e., IMHO, If he didn't know what to do, >he didn't want to deal with me. > >Doesn't matter . . . In most cases, their diagnoses >just serve to alarm women, and their treatments don't >help. The symptoms usually start disappearing when the >implants come out. Detoxing helps speed the process >along. . . After a year or so, the so-called >autoimmune problems frequently disappear. > >That said, if you need help managing your symptoms, >see your doctor . . . but not a rheumy! > >Your symptoms sound like those of many of the women. >You body is fighting your implants. . . The rash is >evidence that your body is trying to rid itself of the >toxins. You may try using a lotion that will reduce >the itching/burning (ask the druggist). Soaking in a >hot Epsom salt bath will help draw the toxins from >your tissues. An excellent detox! The rash may be >temporarily worse though. > >When you start detoxing, you will likely begin to >learn about herxing. . . i.e. your symptoms may >temporarily increase as the toxins work their way out >of your body. Once you recognize the herx effect, you >will welcome the sign that your detox program is >effective. The trick is to manage it so herxing >doesn't become an aversion to detoxing. Take it slow >for a while! > >Hugs and prayers, > >Rogene > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 I know for a fact Rheumies were involved in approving implants in Canada atleast. My mom is the secretary of one who did testing, that is the only reason we felt they were safe. Just search for Dr. Tugwell you will see implant articles. He wrote about their safety in articles that most rheumetologists read because he is well- known. Rogene, I am wondering more and more why these rhuemies are so against the thought that implants are making women ill. Remember what i went through with that one? Perhaps the implant manufacters have been on to this, and have on a regular basis-sent studies specifically to rhuemies, knowing that implanted women will be coming in groves, with these wide array of auto immnue symptoms searching for answers. As, that what implants are known to cause/ Love julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 , I don't know what went on in the background, but when the MDL was initially created, there was a requirement for a woman to get a diagnosis from a rheumy. . . IMHO, something came out of that experience that has turned rhumeys against implant women - or afraid of getting involved. I'd love to know one personally and find out what it is. I'll bet it's highly classified! Isn't Dr. Vasey a rheumy? I wonder if he would tell? Also, one possiblity is that the autoimmune diseases implant women are thought to have generally disappear after explant. Real autoimmune diseases stay with one for life. . .. OR is it that real autoimmune diseases would disappear also, if the patients were treated wholistically, and rhuemy's don't want to go there? Hugs, Rogene --- JOSEPH PALANCA <juliejp61@...> wrote: --------------------------------- Rogene, I am wondering more and more why these rhuemies are so against the thought that implants are making women ill. Remember what i went through with that one? Perhaps the implant manufacters have been on to this, and have on a regular basis-sent studies specifically to rhuemies, knowing that implanted women will be coming in groves, with these wide array of auto immnue symptoms searching for answers. As, that what implants are known to cause/ Love julie >From: Rogene S <saxony01@...> >Reply-To: >To: >Subject: Re: breast pain >Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 06:07:37 -0800 (PST) > > >, > >I doubt there is much the rheumy would do for you. >It's interesting he canceled your appointment. It >appears that this specialty is determined to deny the >connection between implants and illness. The last >rheumy I saw was incredibly rude! . . . He denied a >connection, ordered $$$$$$ tests, and didn't bother >reporting the results back to me, or make a follow up >appointment. i.e., IMHO, If he didn't know what to do, >he didn't want to deal with me. > >Doesn't matter . . . In most cases, their diagnoses >just serve to alarm women, and their treatments don't >help. The symptoms usually start disappearing when the >implants come out. Detoxing helps speed the process >along. . . After a year or so, the so-called >autoimmune problems frequently disappear. > >That said, if you need help managing your symptoms, >see your doctor . . . but not a rheumy! > >Your symptoms sound like those of many of the women. >You body is fighting your implants. . . The rash is >evidence that your body is trying to rid itself of the >toxins. You may try using a lotion that will reduce >the itching/burning (ask the druggist). Soaking in a >hot Epsom salt bath will help draw the toxins from >your tissues. An excellent detox! The rash may be >temporarily worse though. > >When you start detoxing, you will likely begin to >learn about herxing. . . i.e. your symptoms may >temporarily increase as the toxins work their way out >of your body. Once you recognize the herx effect, you >will welcome the sign that your detox program is >effective. The trick is to manage it so herxing >doesn't become an aversion to detoxing. Take it slow >for a while! > >Hugs and prayers, > >Rogene > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Real diseases like Fibro, MS are incurable but you can have periods of " remission " where symptoms are manageable. But since implanted women are cured after explant it should be an officially named illness for the implant situation. > > > --------------------------------- > > Rogene, I am wondering more and more why these > rhuemies are so against the thought that implants are > making women ill. Remember what i went through with > that one? Perhaps the implant manufacters have been on > to this, and have on a regular basis-sent studies > specifically to rhuemies, knowing that implanted women > will be coming in groves, with these wide array of > auto immnue symptoms searching for answers. As, that > what implants are known to cause/ Love julie > > > >From: Rogene S <saxony01@y...> >Reply-To: > >To: > >Subject: Re: > breast pain >Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 > 06:07:37 -0800 (PST) > > >, > >I doubt there is > much the rheumy would do for you. >It's interesting he > canceled your appointment. It >appears that this > specialty is determined to deny the >connection > between implants and illness. The last >rheumy I saw > was incredibly rude! . . . He denied a >connection, > ordered $$$$$$ tests, and didn't bother >reporting the > results back to me, or make a follow up >appointment. > i.e., IMHO, If he didn't know what to do, >he didn't > want to deal with me. > >Doesn't matter . . . In most > cases, their diagnoses >just serve to alarm women, and > their treatments don't >help. The symptoms usually > start disappearing when the >implants come out. > Detoxing helps speed the process >along. . . After a > year or so, the so-called >autoimmune problems > frequently disappear. > >That said, if you need help > managing your symptoms, >see your doctor . . . but not > a rheumy! > >Your symptoms sound like those of many of > the women. >You body is fighting your implants. . . > The rash is >evidence that your body is trying to rid > itself of the >toxins. You may try using a lotion that > will reduce >the itching/burning (ask the druggist). > Soaking in a >hot Epsom salt bath will help draw the > toxins from >your tissues. An excellent detox! The > rash may be >temporarily worse though. > >When you > start detoxing, you will likely begin to >learn about > herxing. . . i.e. your symptoms may >temporarily > increase as the toxins work their way out >of your > body. Once you recognize the herx effect, you >will > welcome the sign that your detox program is > >effective. The trick is to manage it so herxing > >doesn't become an aversion to detoxing. Take it slow > >for a while! > >Hugs and prayers, > >Rogene > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Rogene, Hmmm, very interesting. I know when my Rheumy yelled at me, I mean- me and my hubby were baffled at why he would be so upset at me saying I thought my implants were making me sick. He was furious. My hubby had said the doc was either sick of seeing so many women complaining about this, and there were alot more women ill that we didnt know about. Or that the implant manufacters paid for his frickin vacations from the medications they also made for arthritis, or that or his wife or daughter has implants. It was something.You could feel the defensivness in the air. Thick. It was that personal. That heated. Seriously. I was scolded like a child in trouble. And we ended up arguing real bad. He is one of the only docs that has never admitted after seeing my results after explant, that they were in fact making me ill or at least, sicker. Soemthings going on there.Love >From: Rogene S <saxony01@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: breast pain >Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 10:19:31 -0800 (PST) > > >, > >I don't know what went on in the background, but when >the MDL was initially created, there was a requirement >for a woman to get a diagnosis from a rheumy. . . > >IMHO, something came out of that experience that has >turned rhumeys against implant women - or afraid of >getting involved. I'd love to know one personally and >find out what it is. I'll bet it's highly classified! >Isn't Dr. Vasey a rheumy? I wonder if he would tell? > >Also, one possiblity is that the autoimmune diseases >implant women are thought to have generally disappear >after explant. Real autoimmune diseases stay with one >for life. . .. OR is it that real autoimmune diseases >would disappear also, if the patients were treated >wholistically, and rhuemy's don't want to go there? > >Hugs, > >Rogene > > >--- JOSEPH PALANCA <juliejp61@...> wrote: > > >--------------------------------- > >Rogene, I am wondering more and more why these >rhuemies are so against the thought that implants are >making women ill. Remember what i went through with >that one? Perhaps the implant manufacters have been on >to this, and have on a regular basis-sent studies >specifically to rhuemies, knowing that implanted women >will be coming in groves, with these wide array of >auto immnue symptoms searching for answers. As, that >what implants are known to cause/ Love julie > > > >From: Rogene S <saxony01@...> >Reply-> >> >Subject: Re: > breast pain >Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 >06:07:37 -0800 (PST) > > >, > >I doubt there is >much the rheumy would do for you. >It's interesting he >canceled your appointment. It >appears that this >specialty is determined to deny the >connection >between implants and illness. The last >rheumy I saw >was incredibly rude! . . . He denied a >connection, >ordered $$$$$$ tests, and didn't bother >reporting the >results back to me, or make a follow up >appointment. >i.e., IMHO, If he didn't know what to do, >he didn't >want to deal with me. > >Doesn't matter . . . In most >cases, their diagnoses >just serve to alarm women, and >their treatments don't >help. The symptoms usually >start disappearing when the >implants come out. >Detoxing helps speed the process >along. . . After a >year or so, the so-called >autoimmune problems >frequently disappear. > >That said, if you need help >managing your symptoms, >see your doctor . . . but not >a rheumy! > >Your symptoms sound like those of many of >the women. >You body is fighting your implants. . . >The rash is >evidence that your body is trying to rid >itself of the >toxins. You may try using a lotion that >will reduce >the itching/burning (ask the druggist). >Soaking in a >hot Epsom salt bath will help draw the >toxins from >your tissues. An excellent detox! The >rash may be >temporarily worse though. > >When you >start detoxing, you will likely begin to >learn about >herxing. . . i.e. your symptoms may >temporarily >increase as the toxins work their way out >of your >body. Once you recognize the herx effect, you >will >welcome the sign that your detox program is > >effective. The trick is to manage it so herxing > >doesn't become an aversion to detoxing. Take it slow > >for a while! > >Hugs and prayers, > >Rogene > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Rogene, I am of the opinion that many people who are dealing with autoimmune disease would see great healing and possibly even cures if they would follow a detoxification regimen. I can't tell you how many people I have read about who have cured their autoimmune disease through natural healing methods. And I am talking about books written by doctors....MD's...like Dr. Fuhrman in his book " Fasting and Eating for Health " and Dr. Weil in his many books on alternative and integrative medicine. The stories are out there in many places. Just like the stories on cancer being healed....and I've talked many times about the tremendous healing successes for those who have undergone the Gerson therapy. The problem is that mainstream medicine is caught in a deeply ingrained thought process that says drugs are the way to cure, and they go into spastic attacks towards anyone who thinks differently. I've witnessed it with my own eyes and ears. Their mode of operation is to discredit any form of alternative medicine as quackery, which when you think about it, is a joke since the number one cause of death in this country, according to recent statistics, is doctor and drug induced fatality! (See http://www.mercola.com/2003/jan/15/doctors_drugs.htm ) Sounds like mainstream doctors are pretty qualified as quacks to me with those kinds of numbers. Let's see, how many people die as a result of alternative/integrative medicine? Hmmmm. Not many that I am aware of! Rheumy's are taught to treat disease of the immune system (still a not clearly understood aspect of our body function) with drugs. Period. I do not believe they know anything about natural cures. They are not taught them. However, there are a few doctors who have looked outside the box and sought the truth, and Dr. Weil even says that corticosteriods such as prednisone REDUCE the chances of healing naturally. Drugs are bandaids. I agree that they are sometimes needed to help get over serious lifethreatening symptoms, but for the most part, should be avoided in favor of more natural and long term answers. I saw a rheumy who baulked when I started talking about natural therapies. He CLEARLY didn't want to go there. He even tried to tell me about a study he read that showed Vitamin C caused cancer. Give me a freakin break! Needless to say, I didn't go back. Actually, I am quite thankful that I walked out of that office determined never to put my health so trustingly in the hands of an MD again. It put me on a course of natural healing that gave me my life back. My whole family is healthier and happier for it. Patty > , > > I don't know what went on in the background, but when > the MDL was initially created, there was a requirement > for a woman to get a diagnosis from a rheumy. . . > > IMHO, something came out of that experience that has > turned rhumeys against implant women - or afraid of > getting involved. I'd love to know one personally and > find out what it is. I'll bet it's highly classified! > Isn't Dr. Vasey a rheumy? I wonder if he would tell? > > Also, one possiblity is that the autoimmune diseases > implant women are thought to have generally disappear > after explant. Real autoimmune diseases stay with one > for life. . .. OR is it that real autoimmune diseases > would disappear also, if the patients were treated > wholistically, and rhuemy's don't want to go there? > > Hugs, > > Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 I am confused about is the $$$ that your talking about. I go to a General Practitioner and it is cheap as can be. I pay a $10 co pay. Do you have to pay for all your blood tests yourself? What kind of insurance do you have? I have seen a rheumatologist and he said he had no way of knowing if the implants were making me sick or not but that after so many years I should get them out. He said it was documented that gel implants cause reactions. I had all my tests done again recently and they were very inexpensive. I guess I can be grateful I have such good insurance. I think that is terrible that your Dr charged you so much for your blood tests. I can't imagine a Dr yelling at me, I would have gone to someone and complained. I hope you did that. I don't know what herxing is but it sounds bad. Anything that is going to make me sicker I will try to avoid. Thank you for the advice. Did you finally find a Dr that diagnosed your thyroid disease that was less expenisive? In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...> wrote: > , > > I doubt there is much the rheumy would do for you. > It's interesting he canceled your appointment. It > appears that this specialty is determined to deny the > connection between implants and illness. The last > rheumy I saw was incredibly rude! . . . He denied a > connection, ordered $$$$$$ tests, and didn't bother > reporting the results back to me, or make a follow up > appointment. i.e., IMHO, If he didn't know what to do, > he didn't want to deal with me. > > Doesn't matter . . . In most cases, their diagnoses > just serve to alarm women, and their treatments don't > help. The symptoms usually start disappearing when the > implants come out. Detoxing helps speed the process > along. . . After a year or so, the so-called > autoimmune problems frequently disappear. > > That said, if you need help managing your symptoms, > see your doctor . . . but not a rheumy! > > Your symptoms sound like those of many of the women. > You body is fighting your implants. . . The rash is > evidence that your body is trying to rid itself of the > toxins. You may try using a lotion that will reduce > the itching/burning (ask the druggist). Soaking in a > hot Epsom salt bath will help draw the toxins from > your tissues. An excellent detox! The rash may be > temporarily worse though. > > When you start detoxing, you will likely begin to > learn about herxing. . . i.e. your symptoms may > temporarily increase as the toxins work their way out > of your body. Once you recognize the herx effect, you > will welcome the sign that your detox program is > effective. The trick is to manage it so herxing > doesn't become an aversion to detoxing. Take it slow > for a while! > > Hugs and prayers, > > Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 I take 200% of the daily recommended intake of Magnesium(no help) but I think that removing the implants will do the trick. It's hard for vitamins and minerals to help if there is toxins manifesting in your body. - > , > > Fibromyalgia can be cured . . . Actually, it's not a > disease, but a collection of symptoms (a Syndrome) > with enough in common to be given a name. It shows up > afer toxin exposure, accidents, major stress, etc. . . > IMHO, things that cause us to develop a sleep > deficiency for an extended period. > > For myself, I can manage my FM until I don't know I > have it. . . Even my massage therapist says I don't > feel at all like a FM patient anymore. The big change > came when I started supplementing with magnesium. > > Here's a website where you can get an incredible > amount of information about Magnesium. > http://www.magnesiumresearchlab.com/ I met this doctor > through a website for Erythromelagia. He established > this research lab as he found the answers to his own > health problems. He has information you can give to > your doctors, and, if I remember right, will talk to > your doctor. > > With the information I gained there, my EM is gone! > Magnesium is required for the production of over 300 > enzymes our body needs. Very, very important . . . > And, as it turns out, our modern diet is very > deficient in it! > > It's a wonder that everyone isn't developing FM . . . > OR are they? > > Hugs, > > Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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