Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

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If I appear angry, it was not intended at you personally. I had every right to state what my doctor has said to me, describe my situation with my former PS, and my opinion along with it. If you don't agree, that's your right too. My concern is getting women to good docs who will give them the best medicine has to offer--this is my agenda.

You seem a bit angry or at least uncomfortable at having anyone challenge you. I was not trying to be rude to you but women need to make choices that they won't regret later--as Patty and I have. As for you resenting the time spent today aurguing/debating with me on this issue, the answer is simple--nobody forced you! I'm not holding you responsible for my part in this -- it's free will on both sides and I happen to have time today.

You're so right, this is a *support* group for those who have issues (negative) with saline implants for one reason or another which brings me to why are YOU here? You like your saline implants and have no problems with them and I think that's a good thing--I'm glad you're OK and look fine--I'm all for free choice on this implant issue. However, while you do offer some useful medical information you don't offer support to anyone here but only info on YOUR protocol/surgery techniques (only) which to me appears self-serving. Please feel free to correct me if my assumption is wrong--I'm just telling it the way I see it.

As for lending support on this forum, I will lend my heart, ear or friendship to ANYONE on this site who needs support. I have nothing to gain from anyone here other then the opportunity to meet some nice folks--which I have. Can you say the same? I hope you can.

If I am wrong about you being on this site for self-promotion in your medical practice, I will (humbly) stand corrected and sincerely apologize to you. That's all I have to say on this matter unless you wish to debate this further.

BTW, I hope your patient in the accident will be OK, that's terrible what happened to him.

-Marie

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I wish you well.

-Marie

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: I have answered all of these questions on previous posts which I believe anyone can review if they like. I am here because this site has importnat information that I need to see in order to do my job better. If you feel I am self serving, then that is your opinion. I do have a unique perspective in that I probably see and treat for their systemic illness more patients with silicone and saline toxicity than any doctor in the country and am still dedicated to cracking the mysteries of this illness. I do this by listening to what the patients on this site have to say and asking questions. I am the only doctor gethering the latest information and putting it in newsletter form. I find it curious that you and e have not commented on these newsletters which contain important scientific information on saline problems from leaders in the field. I suspect that some members of this group would like me to go away with my feelings hurt, but I have a job to do. Not to recruit patients off this site for surgery as I am flooded with patients and really for my own health should limit the explants I do to one a week as they are very taxing physically, but to continue to try and solve the mystry of this adjuvant disease and what we can do to prevent it and treat it. You are free to have any opinion that you like regarding my motives but I am the only doctor in this country with the courage to appear on national TV and criticize silicone and saline implants. At one point I was told that my life was in jeopardy for these views and I am the only doctor to state that I believe that PJ Brent's death was not a suicide in a court document. Feng was attached viciously for her role in the developement of explantation by the ASPRS. Can you imagine what they think of me. So, I am I really self promoting or spiritually guided to help make a difference for the women who are sick? Read the information on www.templeofhealth.ws and let me know if you can find any other doctor who is investigating this illness to the degree I have. Remember, I have the illness. There is plenty of silicone left in my body to cause neurological and immune system expecially if I get off the protocol. .

-----Original Message-----From: perlesetlacet@... [mailto:perlesetlacet@...]Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 1:02 AM Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To :If I appear angry, it was not intended at you personally. I had every right to state what my doctor has said to me, describe my situation with my former PS, and my opinion along with it. If you don't agree, that's your right too. My concern is getting women to good docs who will give them the best medicine has to offer--this is my agenda.You seem a bit angry or at least uncomfortable at having anyone challenge you. I was not trying to be rude to you but women need to make choices that they won't regret later--as Patty and I have. As for you resenting the time spent today aurguing/debating with me on this issue, the answer is simple--nobody forced you! I'm not holding you responsible for my part in this -- it's free will on both sides and I happen to have time today.You're so right, this is a *support* group for those who have issues (negative) with saline implants for one reason or another which brings me to why are YOU here? You like your saline implants and have no problems with them and I think that's a good thing--I'm glad you're OK and look fine--I'm all for free choice on this implant issue. However, while you do offer some useful medical information you don't offer support to anyone here but only info on YOUR protocol/surgery techniques (only) which to me appears self-serving. Please feel free to correct me if my assumption is wrong--I'm just telling it the way I see it.As for lending support on this forum, I will lend my heart, ear or friendship to ANYONE on this site who needs support. I have nothing to gain from anyone here other then the opportunity to meet some nice folks--which I have. Can you say the same? I hope you can.If I am wrong about you being on this site for self-promotion in your medical practice, I will (humbly) stand corrected and sincerely apologize to you. That's all I have to say on this matter unless you wish to debate this further.BTW, I hope your patient in the accident will be OK, that's terrible what happened to him.-Marie

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Hi Patty:

Thanks. I'll have a looksie later. I need to figure out my password!

Take care,

LM

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Marie,

Same here. I never even knew there was another way to do this--all I was ever shown was the anchor lift. When I saw that other women had gotten this vertical lift, I was happy for them, but saddened that I hadn't been given this same option. And I personally feel, knowing that and I were almost exactly the same in our circumstances, with the sag and the size of our breasts, that I would have been a perfect candidate for a vertical.

I posted my pics in the files section under "Anchor Scars" so you can see what I've ended up with. The scars have faded alot, but they are thick to me, especially in the area where the dent is on the left breast. I don't know you if you can you see it very well--of course, I know it is there, so I don't have to look so hard!

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: perlesetlacet@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:56 AM

Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

:Hi. Actually my bottom anchor scars were not in the crease -- although they're supposed to be. My current PS is trying to get them closer to the crease--he succeeded doing so on the left breast.Funny thing is, even with all my scars from this anchor cut, I have no more lift than you do with your minimal vertical cut. I did not need this outdated procedure, but I agreed to have it done because I was never told about verticals--therefore my ignorance had taken away my ability to make an EDUCATED decision for my body and health. Had I known there were docs out there like Feng, or my current doctor, I would have never gone to the _____. I assumed because he was *Board Certified* and a member of the ASPRS (a "symbol of excellence"), he must be good--what bullshit. The ASPRS is a pay-your-membership fee-and-we'll-promote-you-society. It's chock full of lies, trickery, and deceit.My current doc would have to be a magician to make my breast look good. The best medicine and intentions can only do so much once you've been hacked over. At the juncture, I wish I had no breasts at all. I'm looking into that too.Hugs,-Marie

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Don't say that ! I think that we are our own worse critics, you need to be happy you still have anybreasts, I work with a lady that had hers removed from cancer, man that would suck I know how it is to feel deformed, I mean I feel that way about my lower abdomen somtimes, but in reality it is not as bad as I think it is. Not to minimize what you have been through, that I would never do. I feel so much for you I truly care

hang in

----- Original Message -----

From: perlesetlacet@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:56 AM

Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

:Hi. Actually my bottom anchor scars were not in the crease -- although they're supposed to be. My current PS is trying to get them closer to the crease--he succeeded doing so on the left breast.Funny thing is, even with all my scars from this anchor cut, I have no more lift than you do with your minimal vertical cut. I did not need this outdated procedure, but I agreed to have it done because I was never told about verticals--therefore my ignorance had taken away my ability to make an EDUCATED decision for my body and health. Had I known there were docs out there like Feng, or my current doctor, I would have never gone to the _____. I assumed because he was *Board Certified* and a member of the ASPRS (a "symbol of excellence"), he must be good--what bullshit. The ASPRS is a pay-your-membership fee-and-we'll-promote-you-society. It's chock full of lies, trickery, and deceit.My current doc would have to be a magician to make my breast look good. The best medicine and intentions can only do so much once you've been hacked over. At the juncture, I wish I had no breasts at all. I'm looking into that too.Hugs,-Marie

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Patty

To be honest your breasts don't look too bad honey, but yeah I can see the scars in the crease more than the others. Too bad cause they don't really look bad. If they are just hanging down can you see the crease scars?

----- Original Message -----

From: ~*Patty*~

Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:12 AM

Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

Marie,

Same here. I never even knew there was another way to do this--all I was ever shown was the anchor lift. When I saw that other women had gotten this vertical lift, I was happy for them, but saddened that I hadn't been given this same option. And I personally feel, knowing that and I were almost exactly the same in our circumstances, with the sag and the size of our breasts, that I would have been a perfect candidate for a vertical.

I posted my pics in the files section under "Anchor Scars" so you can see what I've ended up with. The scars have faded alot, but they are thick to me, especially in the area where the dent is on the left breast. I don't know you if you can you see it very well--of course, I know it is there, so I don't have to look so hard!

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: perlesetlacet@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:56 AM

Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

:Hi. Actually my bottom anchor scars were not in the crease -- although they're supposed to be. My current PS is trying to get them closer to the crease--he succeeded doing so on the left breast.Funny thing is, even with all my scars from this anchor cut, I have no more lift than you do with your minimal vertical cut. I did not need this outdated procedure, but I agreed to have it done because I was never told about verticals--therefore my ignorance had taken away my ability to make an EDUCATED decision for my body and health. Had I known there were docs out there like Feng, or my current doctor, I would have never gone to the _____. I assumed because he was *Board Certified* and a member of the ASPRS (a "symbol of excellence"), he must be good--what bullshit. The ASPRS is a pay-your-membership fee-and-we'll-promote-you-society. It's chock full of lies, trickery, and deceit.My current doc would have to be a magician to make my breast look good. The best medicine and intentions can only do so much once you've been hacked over. At the juncture, I wish I had no breasts at all. I'm looking into that too.Hugs,-Marie

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Not really, but they are definitely there when I am laying down or raise my arms.

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: Heer

Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 6:58 AM

Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

Patty

To be honest your breasts don't look too bad honey, but yeah I can see the scars in the crease more than the others. Too bad cause they don't really look bad. If they are just hanging down can you see the crease scars?

----- Original Message -----

From: ~*Patty*~

Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:12 AM

Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

Marie,

Same here. I never even knew there was another way to do this--all I was ever shown was the anchor lift. When I saw that other women had gotten this vertical lift, I was happy for them, but saddened that I hadn't been given this same option. And I personally feel, knowing that and I were almost exactly the same in our circumstances, with the sag and the size of our breasts, that I would have been a perfect candidate for a vertical.

I posted my pics in the files section under "Anchor Scars" so you can see what I've ended up with. The scars have faded alot, but they are thick to me, especially in the area where the dent is on the left breast. I don't know you if you can you see it very well--of course, I know it is there, so I don't have to look so hard!

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: perlesetlacet@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:56 AM

Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

:Hi. Actually my bottom anchor scars were not in the crease -- although they're supposed to be. My current PS is trying to get them closer to the crease--he succeeded doing so on the left breast.Funny thing is, even with all my scars from this anchor cut, I have no more lift than you do with your minimal vertical cut. I did not need this outdated procedure, but I agreed to have it done because I was never told about verticals--therefore my ignorance had taken away my ability to make an EDUCATED decision for my body and health. Had I known there were docs out there like Feng, or my current doctor, I would have never gone to the _____. I assumed because he was *Board Certified* and a member of the ASPRS (a "symbol of excellence"), he must be good--what bullshit. The ASPRS is a pay-your-membership fee-and-we'll-promote-you-society. It's chock full of lies, trickery, and deceit.My current doc would have to be a magician to make my breast look good. The best medicine and intentions can only do so much once you've been hacked over. At the juncture, I wish I had no breasts at all. I'm looking into that too.Hugs,-Marie

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: I had several grams of silicone leak out of my silicone gel implants so I still have problems with immune and neurological issues although they are much improved since the explantation. I still have my capsules as well. This has given me opportunities to create the silicone immune protocol. If plastic surgeons do not treat the patients with antifungals and antibiotics they often become more ill after surgery. I know this because of the large numbers of patients I treat that have had other surgeons explant them. .

-----Original Message-----From: Heer [mailto:idagirl@...]Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:42 PM Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

Dr Kolb are you saying you still have illness? Do you get symptoms if you go off this "protocol"?

----- Original Message -----

From: Dr. Kolb

Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 11:20 PM

Subject: RE: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

: I have answered all of these questions on previous posts which I believe anyone can review if they like. I am here because this site has importnat information that I need to see in order to do my job better. If you feel I am self serving, then that is your opinion. I do have a unique perspective in that I probably see and treat for their systemic illness more patients with silicone and saline toxicity than any doctor in the country and am still dedicated to cracking the mysteries of this illness. I do this by listening to what the patients on this site have to say and asking questions. I am the only doctor gethering the latest information and putting it in newsletter form. I find it curious that you and e have not commented on these newsletters which contain important scientific information on saline problems from leaders in the field. I suspect that some members of this group would like me to go away with my feelings hurt, but I have a job to do. Not to recruit patients off this site for surgery as I am flooded with patients and really for my own health should limit the explants I do to one a week as they are very taxing physically, but to continue to try and solve the mystry of this adjuvant disease and what we can do to prevent it and treat it. You are free to have any opinion that you like regarding my motives but I am the only doctor in this country with the courage to appear on national TV and criticize silicone and saline implants. At one point I was told that my life was in jeopardy for these views and I am the only doctor to state that I believe that PJ Brent's death was not a suicide in a court document. Feng was attached viciously for her role in the developement of explantation by the ASPRS. Can you imagine what they think of me. So, I am I really self promoting or spiritually guided to help make a difference for the women who are sick? Read the information on www.templeofhealth.ws and let me know if you can find any other doctor who is investigating this illness to the degree I have. Remember, I have the illness. There is plenty of silicone left in my body to cause neurological and immune system expecially if I get off the protocol. .

-----Original Message-----From: perlesetlacet@... [mailto:perlesetlacet@...]Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 1:02 AM Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To :If I appear angry, it was not intended at you personally. I had every right to state what my doctor has said to me, describe my situation with my former PS, and my opinion along with it. If you don't agree, that's your right too. My concern is getting women to good docs who will give them the best medicine has to offer--this is my agenda.You seem a bit angry or at least uncomfortable at having anyone challenge you. I was not trying to be rude to you but women need to make choices that they won't regret later--as Patty and I have. As for you resenting the time spent today aurguing/debating with me on this issue, the answer is simple--nobody forced you! I'm not holding you responsible for my part in this -- it's free will on both sides and I happen to have time today.You're so right, this is a *support* group for those who have issues (negative) with saline implants for one reason or another which brings me to why are YOU here? You like your saline implants and have no problems with them and I think that's a good thing--I'm glad you're OK and look fine--I'm all for free choice on this implant issue. However, while you do offer some useful medical information you don't offer support to anyone here but only info on YOUR protocol/surgery techniques (only) which to me appears self-serving. Please feel free to correct me if my assumption is wrong--I'm just telling it the way I see it.As for lending support on this forum, I will lend my heart, ear or friendship to ANYONE on this site who needs support. I have nothing to gain from anyone here other then the opportunity to meet some nice folks--which I have. Can you say the same? I hope you can.If I am wrong about you being on this site for self-promotion in your medical practice, I will (humbly) stand corrected and sincerely apologize to you. That's all I have to say on this matter unless you wish to debate this further.BTW, I hope your patient in the accident will be OK, that's terrible what happened to him.-Marie

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, Why don't you get the capsules removed? If you remove them on your pts, why wouldn't you want them removed on yourself? Even without the capsules, you could still create a silicone immune protocol. You don't need capsules to create a protocol. e ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr. Kolb Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:50 PM Subject: RE: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To : I had several grams of silicone leak out of my silicone gel implants so I still have problems with immune and neurological issues although they are much improved since the explantation. I still have my capsules as well. This has given me opportunities to create the silicone immune protocol. If plastic surgeons do not treat the patients with antifungals and antibiotics they often become more ill after surgery. I know this because of the large numbers of patients I treat that have had other surgeons explant them. . -----Original Message-----From: Heer [mailto:idagirl@...]Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:42 PM Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To Dr Kolb are you saying you still have illness? Do you get symptoms if you go off this "protocol"? ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr. Kolb Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 11:20 PM Subject: RE: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To : I have answered all of these questions on previous posts which I believe anyone can review if they like. I am here because this site has importnat information that I need to see in order to do my job better. If you feel I am self serving, then that is your opinion. I do have a unique perspective in that I probably see and treat for their systemic illness more patients with silicone and saline toxicity than any doctor in the country and am still dedicated to cracking the mysteries of this illness. I do this by listening to what the patients on this site have to say and asking questions. I am the only doctor gethering the latest information and putting it in newsletter form. I find it curious that you and e have not commented on these newsletters which contain important scientific information on saline problems from leaders in the field. I suspect that some members of this group would like me to go away with my feelings hurt, but I have a job to do. Not to recruit patients off this site for surgery as I am flooded with patients and really for my own health should limit the explants I do to one a week as they are very taxing physically, but to continue to try and solve the mystry of this adjuvant disease and what we can do to prevent it and treat it. You are free to have any opinion that you like regarding my motives but I am the only doctor in this country with the courage to appear on national TV and criticize silicone and saline implants. At one point I was told that my life was in jeopardy for these views and I am the only doctor to state that I believe that PJ Brent's death was not a suicide in a court document. Feng was attached viciously for her role in the developement of explantation by the ASPRS. Can you imagine what they think of me. So, I am I really self promoting or spiritually guided to help make a difference for the women who are sick? Read the information on www.templeofhealth.ws and let me know if you can find any other doctor who is investigating this illness to the degree I have. Remember, I have the illness. There is plenty of silicone left in my body to cause neurological and immune system expecially if I get off the protocol. . -----Original Message-----From: perlesetlacet@... [mailto:perlesetlacet@...]Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 1:02 AM Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To :If I appear angry, it was not intended at you personally. I had every right to state what my doctor has said to me, describe my situation with my former PS, and my opinion along with it. If you don't agree, that's your right too. My concern is getting women to good docs who will give them the best medicine has to offer--this is my agenda.You seem a bit angry or at least uncomfortable at having anyone challenge you. I was not trying to be rude to you but women need to make choices that they won't regret later--as Patty and I have. As for you resenting the time spent today aurguing/debating with me on this issue, the answer is simple--nobody forced you! I'm not holding you responsible for my part in this -- it's free will on both sides and I happen to have time today.You're so right, this is a *support* group for those who have issues (negative) with saline implants for one reason or another which brings me to why are YOU here? You like your saline implants and have no problems with them and I think that's a good thing--I'm glad you're OK and look fine--I'm all for free choice on this implant issue. However, while you do offer some useful medical information you don't offer support to anyone here but only info on YOUR protocol/surgery techniques (only) which to me appears self-serving. Please feel free to correct me if my assumption is wrong--I'm just telling it the way I see it.As for lending support on this forum, I will lend my heart, ear or friendship to ANYONE on this site who needs support. I have nothing to gain from anyone here other then the opportunity to meet some nice folks--which I have. Can you say the same? I hope you can.If I am wrong about you being on this site for self-promotion in your medical practice, I will (humbly) stand corrected and sincerely apologize to you. That's all I have to say on this matter unless you wish to debate this further.BTW, I hope your patient in the accident will be OK, that's terrible what happened to him.-Marie

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:

Are you feeling better now, do you have pain? How long were you sick? Are you growing more capsule from the saline implants too?

Take care,

-Marie

[Guest guest]

I asked my surgeons to remove the capsules but they said it was too difficult. I became very ill and then developed the silicone immune protocol. .

-----Original Message-----From: e Rene [mailto:e_Rene@...]Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:06 AM Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

,

Why don't you get the capsules removed? If you remove them on your pts, why wouldn't you want them removed on yourself? Even without the capsules, you could still create a silicone immune protocol. You don't need capsules to create a protocol.

e

----- Original Message -----

From: Dr. Kolb

Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:50 PM

Subject: RE: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

: I had several grams of silicone leak out of my silicone gel implants so I still have problems with immune and neurological issues although they are much improved since the explantation. I still have my capsules as well. This has given me opportunities to create the silicone immune protocol. If plastic surgeons do not treat the patients with antifungals and antibiotics they often become more ill after surgery. I know this because of the large numbers of patients I treat that have had other surgeons explant them. .

-----Original Message-----From: Heer [mailto:idagirl@...]Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:42 PM Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

Dr Kolb are you saying you still have illness? Do you get symptoms if you go off this "protocol"?

----- Original Message -----

From: Dr. Kolb

Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 11:20 PM

Subject: RE: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

: I have answered all of these questions on previous posts which I believe anyone can review if they like. I am here because this site has importnat information that I need to see in order to do my job better. If you feel I am self serving, then that is your opinion. I do have a unique perspective in that I probably see and treat for their systemic illness more patients with silicone and saline toxicity than any doctor in the country and am still dedicated to cracking the mysteries of this illness. I do this by listening to what the patients on this site have to say and asking questions. I am the only doctor gethering the latest information and putting it in newsletter form. I find it curious that you and e have not commented on these newsletters which contain important scientific information on saline problems from leaders in the field. I suspect that some members of this group would like me to go away with my feelings hurt, but I have a job to do. Not to recruit patients off this site for surgery as I am flooded with patients and really for my own health should limit the explants I do to one a week as they are very taxing physically, but to continue to try and solve the mystry of this adjuvant disease and what we can do to prevent it and treat it. You are free to have any opinion that you like regarding my motives but I am the only doctor in this country with the courage to appear on national TV and criticize silicone and saline implants. At one point I was told that my life was in jeopardy for these views and I am the only doctor to state that I believe that PJ Brent's death was not a suicide in a court document. Feng was attached viciously for her role in the developement of explantation by the ASPRS. Can you imagine what they think of me. So, I am I really self promoting or spiritually guided to help make a difference for the women who are sick? Read the information on www.templeofhealth.ws and let me know if you can find any other doctor who is investigating this illness to the degree I have. Remember, I have the illness. There is plenty of silicone left in my body to cause neurological and immune system expecially if I get off the protocol. .

-----Original Message-----From: perlesetlacet@... [mailto:perlesetlacet@...]Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 1:02 AM Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To :If I appear angry, it was not intended at you personally. I had every right to state what my doctor has said to me, describe my situation with my former PS, and my opinion along with it. If you don't agree, that's your right too. My concern is getting women to good docs who will give them the best medicine has to offer--this is my agenda.You seem a bit angry or at least uncomfortable at having anyone challenge you. I was not trying to be rude to you but women need to make choices that they won't regret later--as Patty and I have. As for you resenting the time spent today aurguing/debating with me on this issue, the answer is simple--nobody forced you! I'm not holding you responsible for my part in this -- it's free will on both sides and I happen to have time today.You're so right, this is a *support* group for those who have issues (negative) with saline implants for one reason or another which brings me to why are YOU here? You like your saline implants and have no problems with them and I think that's a good thing--I'm glad you're OK and look fine--I'm all for free choice on this implant issue. However, while you do offer some useful medical information you don't offer support to anyone here but only info on YOUR protocol/surgery techniques (only) which to me appears self-serving. Please feel free to correct me if my assumption is wrong--I'm just telling it the way I see it.As for lending support on this forum, I will lend my heart, ear or friendship to ANYONE on this site who needs support. I have nothing to gain from anyone here other then the opportunity to meet some nice folks--which I have. Can you say the same? I hope you can.If I am wrong about you being on this site for self-promotion in your medical practice, I will (humbly) stand corrected and sincerely apologize to you. That's all I have to say on this matter unless you wish to debate this further.BTW, I hope your patient in the accident will be OK, that's terrible what happened to him.-Marie

[Guest guest]

I am much better but I stay on the protocol. I got ill in 95. There probably was no more capsule formation from the smooth saline except in the areas where they did partial capsulectomies. .

-----Original Message-----From: perlesetlacet@... [mailto:perlesetlacet@...]Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:55 PM Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To :Are you feeling better now, do you have pain? How long were you sick? Are you growing more capsule from the saline implants too?Take care,-Marie

[Guest guest]

So you are saying that you still get flares? If you go off your protocol? how closely do you follow your protocol? For instance do you take all the supplements and all the things listed? To me it seems like a HUGE amount of things to take consistently on a daily basis forever, simply to keep a set of implants that in reality are not going to be lasting forever! Do you for example, not ever eat cake, ice cream? Candy? Any treats at all? I am very interested in this as I find that a life full of nothing but raw food and health stuff is dull and boring, it isn't worth it to me, personally, to never have a birthday cake or a candy bar. I mean I obviously don't pig out but I do like an occasional treat, pizza, nice dinner, whatever. Also are the implants that important to you to have to be on a protocol the rest of your life?

Last I have to ask how old are your implants now? Will you be replacing them when they get to a certain age or are you just playing the "wait and see" that most implanted women do. Last thing, are you saying that smooth implants don't make any capsule? How would you not have a new capsule? this confuses me allot?

thanks for answering my questions, this is very interesting to me.

----- Original Message -----

From: Dr. Kolb

Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 4:29 AM

Subject: RE: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

I am much better but I stay on the protocol. I got ill in 95. There probably was no more capsule formation from the smooth saline except in the areas where they did partial capsulectomies. .

-----Original Message-----From: perlesetlacet@... [mailto:perlesetlacet@...]Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:55 PM Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To :Are you feeling better now, do you have pain? How long were you sick? Are you growing more capsule from the saline implants too?Take care,-Marie

[Guest guest]

I follow the protocol intuitively. The fastest way to get rid of pain is to fast. My diet is hospital food often once a day. I am extremely busy working an average of 17 to 20 hours a day. I usually operate 4 to 10 hours a day which is physically taxing. I work 7 days a week as I take call on the weekends often at 3 to 5 hospitals. Last weekend we had 17 emergencies so I am very tired. I have a radio show tomorrow morning and I still have to read the book. Smooth implants do make a capsule but probably not when placed back into a preexisting capsule. .

-----Original Message-----From: Heer [mailto:idagirl@...]Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:40 AM Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

So you are saying that you still get flares? If you go off your protocol? how closely do you follow your protocol? For instance do you take all the supplements and all the things listed? To me it seems like a HUGE amount of things to take consistently on a daily basis forever, simply to keep a set of implants that in reality are not going to be lasting forever! Do you for example, not ever eat cake, ice cream? Candy? Any treats at all? I am very interested in this as I find that a life full of nothing but raw food and health stuff is dull and boring, it isn't worth it to me, personally, to never have a birthday cake or a candy bar. I mean I obviously don't pig out but I do like an occasional treat, pizza, nice dinner, whatever. Also are the implants that important to you to have to be on a protocol the rest of your life?

Last I have to ask how old are your implants now? Will you be replacing them when they get to a certain age or are you just playing the "wait and see" that most implanted women do. Last thing, are you saying that smooth implants don't make any capsule? How would you not have a new capsule? this confuses me allot?

thanks for answering my questions, this is very interesting to me.

----- Original Message -----

From: Dr. Kolb

Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 4:29 AM

Subject: RE: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

I am much better but I stay on the protocol. I got ill in 95. There probably was no more capsule formation from the smooth saline except in the areas where they did partial capsulectomies. .

-----Original Message-----From: perlesetlacet@... [mailto:perlesetlacet@...]Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:55 PM Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To :Are you feeling better now, do you have pain? How long were you sick? Are you growing more capsule from the saline implants too?Take care,-Marie

[Guest guest]

So how long do you fast for? When you say hospital food I assume you are referring to the stuff they sell in the cafeteria right? I work in a hospital so I know what that is. ha ha.

Sounds like you need a nice vacation, seriously, a trip to Hawaii or something fun!

take care

C

----- Original Message -----

From: Dr. Kolb

Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:35 PM

Subject: RE: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

I follow the protocol intuitively. The fastest way to get rid of pain is to fast. My diet is hospital food often once a day. I am extremely busy working an average of 17 to 20 hours a day. I usually operate 4 to 10 hours a day which is physically taxing. I work 7 days a week as I take call on the weekends often at 3 to 5 hospitals. Last weekend we had 17 emergencies so I am very tired. I have a radio show tomorrow morning and I still have to read the book. Smooth implants do make a capsule but probably not when placed back into a preexisting capsule. .

-----Original Message-----From: Heer [mailto:idagirl@...]Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:40 AM Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

So you are saying that you still get flares? If you go off your protocol? how closely do you follow your protocol? For instance do you take all the supplements and all the things listed? To me it seems like a HUGE amount of things to take consistently on a daily basis forever, simply to keep a set of implants that in reality are not going to be lasting forever! Do you for example, not ever eat cake, ice cream? Candy? Any treats at all? I am very interested in this as I find that a life full of nothing but raw food and health stuff is dull and boring, it isn't worth it to me, personally, to never have a birthday cake or a candy bar. I mean I obviously don't pig out but I do like an occasional treat, pizza, nice dinner, whatever. Also are the implants that important to you to have to be on a protocol the rest of your life?

Last I have to ask how old are your implants now? Will you be replacing them when they get to a certain age or are you just playing the "wait and see" that most implanted women do. Last thing, are you saying that smooth implants don't make any capsule? How would you not have a new capsule? this confuses me allot?

thanks for answering my questions, this is very interesting to me.

----- Original Message -----

From: Dr. Kolb

Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 4:29 AM

Subject: RE: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

I am much better but I stay on the protocol. I got ill in 95. There probably was no more capsule formation from the smooth saline except in the areas where they did partial capsulectomies. .

-----Original Message-----From: perlesetlacet@... [mailto:perlesetlacet@...]Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:55 PM Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To :Are you feeling better now, do you have pain? How long were you sick? Are you growing more capsule from the saline implants too?Take care,-Marie

[Guest guest]

I fast for 5 to 7 days while working. I took a vacation in 1997 and one two weeks ago (Florida). .

-----Original Message-----From: Heer [mailto:idagirl@...]Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 12:58 PM Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

So how long do you fast for? When you say hospital food I assume you are referring to the stuff they sell in the cafeteria right? I work in a hospital so I know what that is. ha ha.

Sounds like you need a nice vacation, seriously, a trip to Hawaii or something fun!

take care

C

----- Original Message -----

From: Dr. Kolb

Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:35 PM

Subject: RE: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

I follow the protocol intuitively. The fastest way to get rid of pain is to fast. My diet is hospital food often once a day. I am extremely busy working an average of 17 to 20 hours a day. I usually operate 4 to 10 hours a day which is physically taxing. I work 7 days a week as I take call on the weekends often at 3 to 5 hospitals. Last weekend we had 17 emergencies so I am very tired. I have a radio show tomorrow morning and I still have to read the book. Smooth implants do make a capsule but probably not when placed back into a preexisting capsule. .

-----Original Message-----From: Heer [mailto:idagirl@...]Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:40 AM Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

So you are saying that you still get flares? If you go off your protocol? how closely do you follow your protocol? For instance do you take all the supplements and all the things listed? To me it seems like a HUGE amount of things to take consistently on a daily basis forever, simply to keep a set of implants that in reality are not going to be lasting forever! Do you for example, not ever eat cake, ice cream? Candy? Any treats at all? I am very interested in this as I find that a life full of nothing but raw food and health stuff is dull and boring, it isn't worth it to me, personally, to never have a birthday cake or a candy bar. I mean I obviously don't pig out but I do like an occasional treat, pizza, nice dinner, whatever. Also are the implants that important to you to have to be on a protocol the rest of your life?

Last I have to ask how old are your implants now? Will you be replacing them when they get to a certain age or are you just playing the "wait and see" that most implanted women do. Last thing, are you saying that smooth implants don't make any capsule? How would you not have a new capsule? this confuses me allot?

thanks for answering my questions, this is very interesting to me.

----- Original Message -----

From: Dr. Kolb

Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 4:29 AM

Subject: RE: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

I am much better but I stay on the protocol. I got ill in 95. There probably was no more capsule formation from the smooth saline except in the areas where they did partial capsulectomies. .

-----Original Message-----From: perlesetlacet@... [mailto:perlesetlacet@...]Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:55 PM Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To :Are you feeling better now, do you have pain? How long were you sick? Are you growing more capsule from the saline implants too?Take care,-Marie

[Guest guest]

Glad to hear you take vacations, your schedule sounds grueling, that is good that you get away I think we all need it for sure!

I want to ask you a question about vitamins, particularly calcium. I am always told that the citrate is the most absorbed, but my husband has tons of this chelated calcium with vitamin D in it that he used to sell at his health food store before they closed down, we have allot of it. I am wondering if this is as good or better than the citrate? what are your opinions? I am really very religious about taking my Calcium as my bones were tested in a DEXA scan a year ago and found to have osteopenia. I do allot more weight bearing exercise now, and between that and the calcium I am hoping to get it to come up, if possible, without taking any medications. I won't know of course till my next dexa in another year. Anyhow I am curious of your opinions on the best most absorbable calcium, is it the citrate of this chelated one that I have?

Thanks for your help, you sound like you work very hard, it must be nice to take a break, but if you are anything like me it is always good to be busy and helping people to.

Take care

----- Original Message -----

From: Dr. Kolb

Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 6:12 PM

Subject: RE: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

I fast for 5 to 7 days while working. I took a vacation in 1997 and one two weeks ago (Florida). .

-----Original Message-----From: Heer [mailto:idagirl@...]Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 12:58 PM Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

So how long do you fast for? When you say hospital food I assume you are referring to the stuff they sell in the cafeteria right? I work in a hospital so I know what that is. ha ha.

Sounds like you need a nice vacation, seriously, a trip to Hawaii or something fun!

take care

C

----- Original Message -----

From: Dr. Kolb

Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:35 PM

Subject: RE: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

I follow the protocol intuitively. The fastest way to get rid of pain is to fast. My diet is hospital food often once a day. I am extremely busy working an average of 17 to 20 hours a day. I usually operate 4 to 10 hours a day which is physically taxing. I work 7 days a week as I take call on the weekends often at 3 to 5 hospitals. Last weekend we had 17 emergencies so I am very tired. I have a radio show tomorrow morning and I still have to read the book. Smooth implants do make a capsule but probably not when placed back into a preexisting capsule. .

-----Original Message-----From: Heer [mailto:idagirl@...]Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:40 AM Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

So you are saying that you still get flares? If you go off your protocol? how closely do you follow your protocol? For instance do you take all the supplements and all the things listed? To me it seems like a HUGE amount of things to take consistently on a daily basis forever, simply to keep a set of implants that in reality are not going to be lasting forever! Do you for example, not ever eat cake, ice cream? Candy? Any treats at all? I am very interested in this as I find that a life full of nothing but raw food and health stuff is dull and boring, it isn't worth it to me, personally, to never have a birthday cake or a candy bar. I mean I obviously don't pig out but I do like an occasional treat, pizza, nice dinner, whatever. Also are the implants that important to you to have to be on a protocol the rest of your life?

Last I have to ask how old are your implants now? Will you be replacing them when they get to a certain age or are you just playing the "wait and see" that most implanted women do. Last thing, are you saying that smooth implants don't make any capsule? How would you not have a new capsule? this confuses me allot?

thanks for answering my questions, this is very interesting to me.

----- Original Message -----

From: Dr. Kolb

Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 4:29 AM

Subject: RE: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To

I am much better but I stay on the protocol. I got ill in 95. There probably was no more capsule formation from the smooth saline except in the areas where they did partial capsulectomies. .

-----Original Message-----From: perlesetlacet@... [mailto:perlesetlacet@...]Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:55 PM Subject: Re: anchors vs. vertical lifts--To :Are you feeling better now, do you have pain? How long were you sick? Are you growing more capsule from the saline implants too?Take care,-Marie