I'm new, help!

[Guest guest]

Hi. Welcome. You'll most likely be fine with explantation and your scars if you go to Dr. Feng (Ohio) or Haung (Denver). Be careful what PS you choose or you will end up with big scars.

Take care,

marie

[Guest guest]

Need help from any ladies & from Dr. Kolb.

I want to explant. Implant new but I've already form a capsule and

I want it out. I freak out just by the thought of the capsule

inside me, and will remain like this till I distance myself from

this whole implant business. I don't just want it scored, I want

it out completely. Better in the end too, because of my family's

history of breast cancer.

Can anyone tell me how long the crease scar will be due to this

total capsule removal? I keep hearing from ps sites that the scar

from a capsulectomy will be much longer compared to simply taking

out the deflated saline bag. I'm scared. Due to my history of bad

scar healing, I need to find a ps who can take out the capsule in as

short an incision as possible. I heard Dr Kolb does it, but can

she tell me what she expects the incision to be in terms of inches -

2 inches or more?

Any thoughts/reply re these 2 questions much much appreciated:

1] How short can it go?

2] For better scar healing, should I opt for dissolvable internal

stitching.

3] Is it true scars tend to spread if done with external stitches

where the thread has to be pull out after a week?

Help, anybody?

[Guest guest]

I usually take the implants out through the same incision and only rarely

lengthen it. Most plastic surgeons use both internal dissoving sutures and

a few external sutures if needed. .

-----Original Message-----

From: yssg777 [mailto:yssg777@...]

Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 4:25 PM

Subject: I'm new, help!

Need help from any ladies & from Dr. Kolb.

I want to explant. Implant new but I've already form a capsule and

I want it out. I freak out just by the thought of the capsule

inside me, and will remain like this till I distance myself from

this whole implant business. I don't just want it scored, I want

it out completely. Better in the end too, because of my family's

history of breast cancer.

Can anyone tell me how long the crease scar will be due to this

total capsule removal? I keep hearing from ps sites that the scar

from a capsulectomy will be much longer compared to simply taking

out the deflated saline bag. I'm scared. Due to my history of bad

scar healing, I need to find a ps who can take out the capsule in as

short an incision as possible. I heard Dr Kolb does it, but can

she tell me what she expects the incision to be in terms of inches -

2 inches or more?

Any thoughts/reply re these 2 questions much much appreciated:

1] How short can it go?

2] For better scar healing, should I opt for dissolvable internal

stitching.

3] Is it true scars tend to spread if done with external stitches

where the thread has to be pull out after a week?

Help, anybody?

[Guest guest]

I have heard that Dr Kolb does a new type lift that I am very curious about,

but I don't think that any of the good PS's I know including Feng or Huang

would ever make the scars any longer than needed to get everything out, your

smart too for wanting to get the capsule out with the implants, that is the

only way to do it.

If you have a tendency to scar with keloids than I guess you would be wise

to see an expert. I would highly recomend Dr Feng as one of the possibles.

Where are you in the USA?

this would be a deciding factor as well.

hugs

C

----- Original Message -----

From: " yssg777 " <yssg777@...>

< >

Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:25 PM

Subject: I'm new, help!

> Need help from any ladies & from Dr. Kolb.

>

> I want to explant. Implant new but I've already form a capsule and

> I want it out. I freak out just by the thought of the capsule

> inside me, and will remain like this till I distance myself from

> this whole implant business. I don't just want it scored, I want

> it out completely. Better in the end too, because of my family's

> history of breast cancer.

>

> Can anyone tell me how long the crease scar will be due to this

> total capsule removal? I keep hearing from ps sites that the scar

> from a capsulectomy will be much longer compared to simply taking

> out the deflated saline bag. I'm scared. Due to my history of bad

> scar healing, I need to find a ps who can take out the capsule in as

> short an incision as possible. I heard Dr Kolb does it, but can

> she tell me what she expects the incision to be in terms of inches -

> 2 inches or more?

>

> Any thoughts/reply re these 2 questions much much appreciated:

> 1] How short can it go?

> 2] For better scar healing, should I opt for dissolvable internal

> stitching.

> 3] Is it true scars tend to spread if done with external stitches

> where the thread has to be pull out after a week?

>

> Help, anybody?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks e, & for replying. I couldn't post earlier

as I couldn't get into my yssg777 email address. It's not so much

keloid but that my scar has a tendency to remain red a long time,

and years after stay a permanent brown line. The line of scar also

pulls the surrounding skin in a weird wrinkly fashion which I hate.

Not to mention, it spreads too when I do stretching exercises like

Yoga. My cousin has same problem. After a promise was given by her

ps to keep her scar to maximum of 2 inches, she woke up from ga to

find a 3 inch incision. That 1 inch makes a lot of difference to

someone whose scar has a tendency to pull/stays prominently visible

forever, especially on a place like the breast. Her breast capsule

was removed in one piece, don't know if that is the reason. But he

would have been able to keep to promised scar length if he had taken

care to cut the capsule in strips, right? She's so traumatised I'm

worried for myself since there are ps sites which says the scar

might end up longer but then never gave reason why or just how long

they mean. But once ps promise, if same happens, is it in line to

sue the ps, since I'm gonna be the one end up living with the

traumatic psychological aftermath?

> I had my implants removed en bloc, capsule and all, by Dr. Huang.

She went through the same inframammary incision that was used to

place my implant, although she did have to extend it more. My

entire scar is approx 2 " long and you can't even see it. I do

believe that most ps' will use internal dissolvable sutures, but if

they use subcuticular, that doesn't mean that your scar will be

worse. In fact, if you've read the post lately, I am horribly

allergic to internal dissolvable sutures and so my surgeons have to

use subcuticular sutures. I had my explant done that way, with no

visible scar anymore, and my neck incision done that way, with the

incision being very fine and faint, and not noticeable unless you

get up real close to me.

>

> However, being that you have a problem with scarring (keloids?) I

would be sure to let your ps know this. Chances are internal

dissolvable sutures would be used, and there are always special

creams to use to lighten scars, including Mederma, vitamin E, and

there is one I just saw today that is indicated for scar lightening

and fading (can't remember the name). But these are all issues you

want to discuss with your ps so that he/she can help increase the

chances of a better aesthetic outcome.

>

> e

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: yssg777

> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:28 PM

> @y...

> Subject: I'm new, help!

>

> Need help from any ladies & from Dr. Kolb.

>

> I want to explant. Implant new but I've already form a capsule

and

> I want it out. I freak out just by the thought of the capsule

> inside me, and will remain like this till I distance myself from

> this whole implant business. I don't just want it scored, I

want

> it out completely. Better in the end too, because of my family's

> history of breast cancer.

>

> Can anyone tell me how long the crease scar will be due to this

> total capsule removal? I keep hearing from ps sites that the

scar

> from a capsulectomy will be much longer compared to simply taking

> out the deflated saline bag. I'm scared. Due to my history of

bad

> scar healing, I need to find a ps who can take out the capsule in

as

> short an incision as possible. I heard Dr Kolb does it, but can

> she tell me what she expects the incision to be in terms of

inches -

> 2 inches or more?

>

> Any thoughts/reply re these 2 questions much much appreciated:

> 1] How short can it go?

> 2] For better scar healing, should I opt for dissolvable internal

> stitching.

> 3] Is it true scars tend to spread if done with external stitches

> where the thread has to be pull out after a week?

>

> Help, anybody?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think the way people scar is in someway genetic, and there is nothing one can do about that. However, conscientious docs will use sutures and suture techniques that are individualized for your particular situation (as most docs should do anyway). It's not uncommon for scars to remain red for a while after surgery--that is part of the healing process. It is also not unusual for scars to take on a whitish color as they heal, but I've never hear of a brown color. The only time I've seen brown scars is when someone tans and the scar becomes discolored due to the sun and the resulting tan. Tanning is not good for scars, as it can make them even more pronounced. I don't know why your scar would be wrinkled, nor why it spreads. When you say it spreads, do you mean permanently, or just when you're doing your exercises? I know this doesn't help and won't make you feel any better, but if you have this hx with scarring, then chances are there's not much any doc can do to completely prevent it. Like I said, they can use smaller, more fine sutures, and perhaps use different suturing techniques. Also, down the road, when the incision has completely healed, scar revision can be done. I have a horrible sternal scar from open heart surgery, and when I get some money, I plan to check into scar revision. I'm not sure how much scar revision costs; I'm sure it depends on the size of the scar and how bad it is. Dr. Kolb could answer that. As for the incision, a doc can in no way promise an exact incision measurement. It's not possible, and a doc would be lying to say they can promise you a 1" scar when in fact they may need to do a 2" scar. Medicine is not an exact science, and not one doctor can ethically say they can promise anything. You never know what will be found when you're opened up, and situations change in surgery where making a larger incision is simply necessary. Many docs plan laparoscopic surgeries for appendixes, gallbladders, tubals, ovary removal, etc, and they tell the pt a stab wound incision is all that is needed, yet they get in there with the laparoscope, and find that they need to convert to an open surgery. You just never know. So, any doc that promises a certain size/length incision I would be very leery of. Chances are, they will be right on, and your incision will be what they say. But there's no guarantee, and a pt should realize that situations change in surgery. I do think it's fair and it's your right to ask the doc how big of an incision he/she will have to make, and it's also your right as a consumer to expect honest, realistic answers. It is a docs ethical responsibility to be honest with you and not guarantee you anything. I would suggest seriously discussing this scar issue with your doc, and informing him of your scarring problems and that you'd like the smallest scar possible. Have you ever tried vitamin E or Mederma on your scars after surgery? Have you tried massaging them? There may also be some things you can do prior to surgery in the hopes that the scar will be minimal. I know that there is a product out to decrease scarring after surgery. However, I think it is made of silicone, but I've heard it's good, and people have good results. From what I've heard, it's like a sheet of paper that you place over the scar. What you do after that, I don't know. But it is by rx only, and I don't know if insurance pays for it or how expensive it is. Also, I don't know if this is possible with breast incisions, but there is a "glue" that is used now instead of sutures. I believe it's called dermabond. I did take care of a woman a few wks ago who had a breast bx and they used dermabond, and then a woman who had a mass removed on the lateral portion of the breast, and dermabond was used. I could barely see the scar, and it was approx 2" long. If you're having your implants removed, you don't want the capsule removed in strips. This is dangerous and should be avoided. The capsule should be removed as one piece. I actually tried to locate my explant scar, and it is so faint and small, it just amazes me that Dr. Huang was able to remove my implants and capsules through a 2" incision. So, getting back to suing a ps for making a longer incision than what was promised---no, you wouldn't have a case, because of all the reasons I stated above. Making a longer scar would never be considered malpractice or negligence. And what may be considered traumatic to you, most others would not. You would have to prove that there was a severe disfigurement (not just to you, but to the jury and the judge). The judge would throw the case out immediately, if you even got to that point. Chances are an attorney would not even take your case. It is extremely difficult to sue doctors for negligence/malpractice, and is also VERY expensive. Any good doctor should not *promise* you an exact incision length due to unforseen circumstances during surgery and with the pt themself. A doc can give you a guestimate of how long the incision will be, but simply cannot state it will only be this long. But by discussing your concerns and fears with him/her, and discussing your scarrring hx, then that should open up a dialogue whereby you and your doc can agree on what is acceptable for you. e ----- Original Message ----- From: yssg888 Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 3:07 PM Subject: Re: I'm new, help! Thanks e, & for replying. I couldn't post earlier as I couldn't get into my yssg777 email address. It's not so much keloid but that my scar has a tendency to remain red a long time, and years after stay a permanent brown line. The line of scar also pulls the surrounding skin in a weird wrinkly fashion which I hate. Not to mention, it spreads too when I do stretching exercises like Yoga. My cousin has same problem. After a promise was given by her ps to keep her scar to maximum of 2 inches, she woke up from ga to find a 3 inch incision. That 1 inch makes a lot of difference to someone whose scar has a tendency to pull/stays prominently visible forever, especially on a place like the breast. Her breast capsule was removed in one piece, don't know if that is the reason. But he would have been able to keep to promised scar length if he had taken care to cut the capsule in strips, right? She's so traumatised I'm worried for myself since there are ps sites which says the scar might end up longer but then never gave reason why or just how long they mean. But once ps promise, if same happens, is it in line to sue the ps, since I'm gonna be the one end up living with the traumatic psychological aftermath? > I had my implants removed en bloc, capsule and all, by Dr. Huang. She went through the same inframammary incision that was used to place my implant, although she did have to extend it more. My entire scar is approx 2" long and you can't even see it. I do believe that most ps' will use internal dissolvable sutures, but if they use subcuticular, that doesn't mean that your scar will be worse. In fact, if you've read the post lately, I am horribly allergic to internal dissolvable sutures and so my surgeons have to use subcuticular sutures. I had my explant done that way, with no visible scar anymore, and my neck incision done that way, with the incision being very fine and faint, and not noticeable unless you get up real close to me. > > However, being that you have a problem with scarring (keloids?) I would be sure to let your ps know this. Chances are internal dissolvable sutures would be used, and there are always special creams to use to lighten scars, including Mederma, vitamin E, and there is one I just saw today that is indicated for scar lightening and fading (can't remember the name). But these are all issues you want to discuss with your ps so that he/she can help increase the chances of a better aesthetic outcome.> > e> > ----- Original Message -----> From: yssg777> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:28 PM> @y...> Subject: I'm new, help!> > Need help from any ladies & from Dr. Kolb.> > I want to explant. Implant new but I've already form a capsule and > I want it out. I freak out just by the thought of the capsule > inside me, and will remain like this till I distance myself from > this whole implant business. I don't just want it scored, I want > it out completely. Better in the end too, because of my family's > history of breast cancer.> > Can anyone tell me how long the crease scar will be due to this > total capsule removal? I keep hearing from ps sites that the scar > from a capsulectomy will be much longer compared to simply taking > out the deflated saline bag. I'm scared. Due to my history of bad > scar healing, I need to find a ps who can take out the capsule in as > short an incision as possible. I heard Dr Kolb does it, but can > she tell me what she expects the incision to be in terms of inches - > 2 inches or more? > > Any thoughts/reply re these 2 questions much much appreciated:> 1] How short can it go? > 2] For better scar healing, should I opt for dissolvable internal > stitching.> 3] Is it true scars tend to spread if done with external stitches> where the thread has to be pull out after a week?> > Help, anybody?> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi:

It could be that your surgeon does not give good scars. I has surgery in May and my scars are red--but skinny. May former surgeon left me with FAT, UGLY railroad track scars! Are you interested in seeing Haung or Feng?

Take care,

LM

[Guest guest]

I am curious about the fact that you have a cousin who had implants removed

to! what is the reason that you want them out and your cousin what was her

reason?

I highly recommend if you can afford it to get explanted with Dr Feng, I

don't care what anyone says, I just don't think I have ever see any one do

more miracles that her with breast. Did you see the website that shows how

she made this mastectomy patient a new breast with skin and muscle and fat

from her abdomen, it is amazing. At the very least call her office. Please

it is worth the call to Ohio. I realize not everyone can get there, but it

is worth checking it out. Go to www.drfeng.com and look at the photos, then

also I recommend that you check out the www.explantation.com site and she

what the ladies there will tell you. trust me, I think Dr Feng has more

experience that anyone I know at this, she is so skilled and I am sure she

could help you.

Please at least talk to her ok?

hugs

C

----- Original Message -----

From: " yssg888 " <yssg888@...>

< >

Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 3:41 PM

Subject: Re: I'm new, help!

> Thanks e, & for replying. I couldn't post earlier

> as I couldn't get into my yssg777 email address. It's not so much

> keloid but that my scar has a tendency to remain red a long time,

> and years after stay a permanent brown line. The line of scar also

> pulls the surrounding skin in a weird wrinkly fashion which I hate.

> Not to mention, it spreads too when I do stretching exercises like

> Yoga. My cousin has same problem. After a promise was given by her

> ps to keep her scar to maximum of 2 inches, she woke up from ga to

> find a 3 inch incision. That 1 inch makes a lot of difference to

> someone whose scar has a tendency to pull/stays prominently visible

> forever, especially on a place like the breast. Her breast capsule

> was removed in one piece, don't know if that is the reason. But he

> would have been able to keep to promised scar length if he had taken

> care to cut the capsule in strips, right? She's so traumatised I'm

> worried for myself since there are ps sites which says the scar

> might end up longer but then never gave reason why or just how long

> they mean. But once ps promise, if same happens, is it in line to

> sue the ps, since I'm gonna be the one end up living with the

> traumatic psychological aftermath?

>

>

>

> > I had my implants removed en bloc, capsule and all, by Dr. Huang.

> She went through the same inframammary incision that was used to

> place my implant, although she did have to extend it more. My

> entire scar is approx 2 " long and you can't even see it. I do

> believe that most ps' will use internal dissolvable sutures, but if

> they use subcuticular, that doesn't mean that your scar will be

> worse. In fact, if you've read the post lately, I am horribly

> allergic to internal dissolvable sutures and so my surgeons have to

> use subcuticular sutures. I had my explant done that way, with no

> visible scar anymore, and my neck incision done that way, with the

> incision being very fine and faint, and not noticeable unless you

> get up real close to me.

> >

> > However, being that you have a problem with scarring (keloids?) I

> would be sure to let your ps know this. Chances are internal

> dissolvable sutures would be used, and there are always special

> creams to use to lighten scars, including Mederma, vitamin E, and

> there is one I just saw today that is indicated for scar lightening

> and fading (can't remember the name). But these are all issues you

> want to discuss with your ps so that he/she can help increase the

> chances of a better aesthetic outcome.

> >

> > e

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: yssg777

> > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:28 PM

> > @y...

> > Subject: I'm new, help!

> >

> > Need help from any ladies & from Dr. Kolb.

> >

> > I want to explant. Implant new but I've already form a capsule

> and

> > I want it out. I freak out just by the thought of the capsule

> > inside me, and will remain like this till I distance myself from

> > this whole implant business. I don't just want it scored, I

> want

> > it out completely. Better in the end too, because of my family's

> > history of breast cancer.

> >

> > Can anyone tell me how long the crease scar will be due to this

> > total capsule removal? I keep hearing from ps sites that the

> scar

> > from a capsulectomy will be much longer compared to simply taking

> > out the deflated saline bag. I'm scared. Due to my history of

> bad

> > scar healing, I need to find a ps who can take out the capsule in

> as

> > short an incision as possible. I heard Dr Kolb does it, but can

> > she tell me what she expects the incision to be in terms of

> inches -

> > 2 inches or more?

> >

> > Any thoughts/reply re these 2 questions much much appreciated:

> > 1] How short can it go?

> > 2] For better scar healing, should I opt for dissolvable internal

> > stitching.

> > 3] Is it true scars tend to spread if done with external stitches

> > where the thread has to be pull out after a week?

> >

> > Help, anybody?

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much e for your views. It does seem it would be

better for my cousin to see what the ps can do for her scarwise -

she's hoping for a miracle and I've passed her the tip to use

Mederma. It's my explant turn next, I'm worried now that I'll

awaken to a longer scar if I can't hold a ps to it. Yes, hope lies

in the scars turning white and fine so it won't spread , isn't it?

The reason the old scar turned permanently brown could be bad

healing owing to costisone being commonly used those days. It

weakens the scar somewhat, the spread is permanent and looks worse

during exercise. Will be sure to standby Mederma & silicone plaster

during the crucial healing month.

> I think the way people scar is in someway genetic, and there is

nothing one can do about that. However, conscientious docs will use

sutures and suture techniques that are individualized for your

particular situation (as most docs should do anyway). It's not

uncommon for scars to remain red for a while after surgery--that is

part of the healing process. It is also not unusual for scars to

take on a whitish color as they heal, but I've never hear of a brown

color. The only time I've seen brown scars is when someone tans and

the scar becomes discolored due to the sun and the resulting tan.

Tanning is not good for scars, as it can make them even more

pronounced. I don't know why your scar would be wrinkled, nor why

it spreads. When you say it spreads, do you mean permanently, or

just when you're doing your exercises?

>

> I know this doesn't help and won't make you feel any better, but

if you have this hx with scarring, then chances are there's not much

any doc can do to completely prevent it. Like I said, they can use

smaller, more fine sutures, and perhaps use different suturing

techniques. Also, down the road, when the incision has completely

healed, scar revision can be done. I have a horrible sternal scar

from open heart surgery, and when I get some money, I plan to check

into scar revision. I'm not sure how much scar revision costs; I'm

sure it depends on the size of the scar and how bad it is. Dr. Kolb

could answer that.

>

> As for the incision, a doc can in no way promise an exact incision

measurement. It's not possible, and a doc would be lying to say

they can promise you a 1 " scar when in fact they may need to do a 2 "

scar. Medicine is not an exact science, and not one doctor can

ethically say they can promise anything. You never know what will

be found when you're opened up, and situations change in surgery

where making a larger incision is simply necessary. Many docs plan

laparoscopic surgeries for appendixes, gallbladders, tubals, ovary

removal, etc, and they tell the pt a stab wound incision is all that

is needed, yet they get in there with the laparoscope, and find that

they need to convert to an open surgery. You just never know. So,

any doc that promises a certain size/length incision I would be very

leery of. Chances are, they will be right on, and your incision

will be what they say. But there's no guarantee, and a pt should

realize that situations change in surgery. I do think it's fair and

it's your right to ask the doc how big of an incision he/she will

have to make, and it's also your right as a consumer to expect

honest, realistic answers. It is a docs ethical responsibility to

be honest with you and not guarantee you anything.

>

> I would suggest seriously discussing this scar issue with your

doc, and informing him of your scarring problems and that you'd like

the smallest scar possible. Have you ever tried vitamin E or

Mederma on your scars after surgery? Have you tried massaging

them? There may also be some things you can do prior to surgery in

the hopes that the scar will be minimal. I know that there is a

product out to decrease scarring after surgery. However, I think it

is made of silicone, but I've heard it's good, and people have good

results. From what I've heard, it's like a sheet of paper that you

place over the scar. What you do after that, I don't know. But it

is by rx only, and I don't know if insurance pays for it or how

expensive it is. Also, I don't know if this is possible with breast

incisions, but there is a " glue " that is used now instead of

sutures. I believe it's called dermabond. I did take care of a

woman a few wks ago who had a breast bx and they used dermabond, and

then a woman who had a mass removed on the lateral portion of the

breast, and dermabond was used. I could barely see the scar, and it

was approx 2 " long.

>

> If you're having your implants removed, you don't want the capsule

removed in strips. This is dangerous and should be avoided. The

capsule should be removed as one piece. I actually tried to locate

my explant scar, and it is so faint and small, it just amazes me

that Dr. Huang was able to remove my implants and capsules through a

2 " incision.

>

> So, getting back to suing a ps for making a longer incision than

what was promised---no, you wouldn't have a case, because of all the

reasons I stated above. Making a longer scar would never be

considered malpractice or negligence. And what may be considered

traumatic to you, most others would not. You would have to prove

that there was a severe disfigurement (not just to you, but to the

jury and the judge). The judge would throw the case out

immediately, if you even got to that point. Chances are an attorney

would not even take your case. It is extremely difficult to sue

doctors for negligence/malpractice, and is also VERY expensive. Any

good doctor should not *promise* you an exact incision length due to

unforseen circumstances during surgery and with the pt themself. A

doc can give you a guestimate of how long the incision will be, but

simply cannot state it will only be this long. But by discussing

your concerns and fears with him/her, and discussing your scarrring

hx, then that should open up a dialogue whereby you and your doc can

agree on what is acceptable for you.

>

> e

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: yssg888

> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 3:07 PM

> @y...

> Subject: Re: I'm new, help!

>

> Thanks e, & for replying. I couldn't post

earlier

> as I couldn't get into my yssg777 email address. It's not so

much

> keloid but that my scar has a tendency to remain red a long time,

> and years after stay a permanent brown line. The line of scar

also

> pulls the surrounding skin in a weird wrinkly fashion which I

hate.

> Not to mention, it spreads too when I do stretching exercises

like

> Yoga. My cousin has same problem. After a promise was given by

her

> ps to keep her scar to maximum of 2 inches, she woke up from ga

to

> find a 3 inch incision. That 1 inch makes a lot of difference to

> someone whose scar has a tendency to pull/stays prominently

visible

> forever, especially on a place like the breast. Her breast

capsule

> was removed in one piece, don't know if that is the reason. But

he

> would have been able to keep to promised scar length if he had

taken

> care to cut the capsule in strips, right? She's so traumatised

I'm

> worried for myself since there are ps sites which says the scar

> might end up longer but then never gave reason why or just how

long

> they mean. But once ps promise, if same happens, is it in line to

> sue the ps, since I'm gonna be the one end up living with the

> traumatic psychological aftermath?

>

>

> --- In @y..., " e Rene " <e_Rene@m...>

wrote:

> > I had my implants removed en bloc, capsule and all, by Dr.

Huang.

> She went through the same inframammary incision that was used to

> place my implant, although she did have to extend it more. My

> entire scar is approx 2 " long and you can't even see it. I do

> believe that most ps' will use internal dissolvable sutures, but

if

> they use subcuticular, that doesn't mean that your scar will be

> worse. In fact, if you've read the post lately, I am horribly

> allergic to internal dissolvable sutures and so my surgeons have

to

> use subcuticular sutures. I had my explant done that way, with

no

> visible scar anymore, and my neck incision done that way, with

the

> incision being very fine and faint, and not noticeable unless you

> get up real close to me.

> >

> > However, being that you have a problem with scarring (keloids?)

I

> would be sure to let your ps know this. Chances are internal

> dissolvable sutures would be used, and there are always special

> creams to use to lighten scars, including Mederma, vitamin E, and

> there is one I just saw today that is indicated for scar

lightening

> and fading (can't remember the name). But these are all issues

you

> want to discuss with your ps so that he/she can help increase the

> chances of a better aesthetic outcome.

> >

> > e

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: yssg777

> > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:28 PM

> > @y...

> > Subject: I'm new, help!

> >

> > Need help from any ladies & from Dr. Kolb.

> >

> > I want to explant. Implant new but I've already form a capsule

> and

> > I want it out. I freak out just by the thought of the capsule

> > inside me, and will remain like this till I distance myself

from

> > this whole implant business. I don't just want it scored, I

> want

> > it out completely. Better in the end too, because of my

family's

> > history of breast cancer.

> >

> > Can anyone tell me how long the crease scar will be due to

this

> > total capsule removal? I keep hearing from ps sites that the

> scar

> > from a capsulectomy will be much longer compared to simply

taking

> > out the deflated saline bag. I'm scared. Due to my history of

> bad

> > scar healing, I need to find a ps who can take out the capsule

in

> as

> > short an incision as possible. I heard Dr Kolb does it, but

can

> > she tell me what she expects the incision to be in terms of

> inches -

> > 2 inches or more?

> >

> > Any thoughts/reply re these 2 questions much much appreciated:

> > 1] How short can it go?

> > 2] For better scar healing, should I opt for dissolvable

internal

> > stitching.

> > 3] Is it true scars tend to spread if done with external stitches

> > where the thread has to be pull out after a week?

> >

> > Help, anybody?

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

This is why it is so important to find a ps that you feel very comfortable talking to, and whom you feel is ethical and honest. You don't want to go to a doc that tells you what you want to hear; you want to go to a doc that is going to be realistic and honest. You can't "hold" a ps or any doctor for that matter, to a certain incision size. That's not being realistic on your part. I don't know why cortisone would be used for scars, but any type of corticosteroid can be used as an anti-inflammatory. But topical corticosteroids can prevent incisions from healing correctly (there are studies being done on this now, not specifically related to plastic surgery, but just in general according to my neurosurgeon and rheumy). So get the Mederma, or vitamin E, and remember to eat a diet high in protein to promote wound/incision healing. Also, talk to your ps about scar revision down the road should you not be happy with the results. Perhaps you can strike a deal that if the scar is not to your satisfaction and you are unhappy, he/she would perform a scar revision free of charge. e ----- Original Message ----- From: yssg888 Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 7:53 PM Subject: Re: I'm new, help! Thank you so much e for your views. It does seem it would be better for my cousin to see what the ps can do for her scarwise - she's hoping for a miracle and I've passed her the tip to use Mederma. It's my explant turn next, I'm worried now that I'll awaken to a longer scar if I can't hold a ps to it. Yes, hope lies in the scars turning white and fine so it won't spread , isn't it? The reason the old scar turned permanently brown could be bad healing owing to costisone being commonly used those days. It weakens the scar somewhat, the spread is permanent and looks worse during exercise. Will be sure to standby Mederma & silicone plaster during the crucial healing month. > > I had my implants removed en bloc, capsule and all, by Dr. Huang. > She went through the same inframammary incision that was used to > place my implant, although she did have to extend it more. My > entire scar is approx 2" long and you can't even see it. I do > believe that most ps' will use internal dissolvable sutures, but if > they use subcuticular, that doesn't mean that your scar will be > worse. In fact, if you've read the post lately, I am horribly > allergic to internal dissolvable sutures and so my surgeons have to > use subcuticular sutures. I had my explant done that way, with no > visible scar anymore, and my neck incision done that way, with the > incision being very fine and faint, and not noticeable unless you > get up real close to me. > > > > However, being that you have a problem with scarring (keloids?) I > would be sure to let your ps know this. Chances are internal > dissolvable sutures would be used, and there are always special > creams to use to lighten scars, including Mederma, vitamin E, and > there is one I just saw today that is indicated for scar lightening > and fading (can't remember the name). But these are all issues you > want to discuss with your ps so that he/she can help increase the > chances of a better aesthetic outcome.> > > > e> > > > ----- Original Message -----> > From: yssg777> > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:28 PM> > @y...> > Subject: I'm new, help!> > > > Need help from any ladies & from Dr. Kolb.> > > > I want to explant. Implant new but I've already form a capsule > and > > I want it out. I freak out just by the thought of the capsule > > inside me, and will remain like this till I distance myself from > > this whole implant business. I don't just want it scored, I > want > > it out completely. Better in the end too, because of my family's > > history of breast cancer.> > > > Can anyone tell me how long the crease scar will be due to this > > total capsule removal? I keep hearing from ps sites that the > scar > > from a capsulectomy will be much longer compared to simply taking > > out the deflated saline bag. I'm scared. Due to my history of > bad > > scar healing, I need to find a ps who can take out the capsule in > as > > short an incision as possible. I heard Dr Kolb does it, but can > > she tell me what she expects the incision to be in terms of > inches - > > 2 inches or more? > > > > Any thoughts/reply re these 2 questions much much appreciated:> > 1] How short can it go? > > 2] For better scar healing, should I opt for dissolvable internal > > stitching.> > 3] Is it true scars tend to spread if done with external stitches> > where the thread has to be pull out after a week?> > > > Help, anybody?> > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi:

e would be a better person to ask about mederma.

Who's your PS or what city is he in? Don't answer if you're not comfortable--I'll understand.

Take care,

LM

[Guest guest]

Thanks LM, Huang/Feng would be too far, my ps is supposed to be good

at scars but within his practice, the team is still split on whether

their pts end up with less visible scarring when they use

dissolvable stitches or with non-dissolvable stitching in which a

thin thread needed to be pulled out 10 days later.

Do you know when Mederma can be used?

Thanks, LM

> Hi:

> It could be that your surgeon does not give good scars. I has

surgery in May

> and my scars are red--but skinny. May former surgeon left me with

FAT, UGLY

> railroad track scars! Are you interested in seeing Haung or Feng?

>

> Take care,

> LM

[Guest guest]

I will respond to this based on our most excellent world known doctors dealing with all forms of BI "scars", and I can honestly tell you they now all suggest mederma; yet only after a couple of weeks, simply to see how your own body is handling it, on itself. It's never too late to try Mederma to reslove scar tissue!

MM

Martha Murdock, DirectorNational Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters"Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices"4416 Willow LaneDallas, TX 75244-7537

----- Original Message -----

From: perlesetlacet@...

Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 3:22 AM

Subject: Re: Re: I'm new, help!

Hi:e would be a better person to ask about mederma.Who's your PS or what city is he in? Don't answer if you're not comfortable--I'll understand.Take care,LM

[Guest guest]

I agree, Dr. Kolb had me wear the 3m incition tape for about three weeks, and then after the skin had joined the best together that it can, to but Merderma and use it for about three months. I am using it now (for about a week) it smells good! Dr, Kolb said in studies it works better than even vitamin e. So I am using merderma twice during the day, and vitamin E at night. My scars are healing very nicely.

[Guest guest]

I based in the Indian subcontinent where a lot of us do prefer to

travel out to Bangkok/Singapore to avail good facility. Does anyone

know a good ps there? I'd have rocketed to Dr Feng if she was just

across the street. But her area would add too much cost to the

already high op fee? I'd say Dr Kolb's area sounds more likely as I

get friends there who put me up free.

My cousin had her implants out due to continuing capsule growth

which ends up enlarging her breast as much as the implant. My case,

everytime my breast jiggles during daily movement, I think of the

implant stretching the tissue. I had always admired firm skin and

wish I had given that more emphasis before BA confirms just how much

I hate stretched skin. The thought that implant weight only help

gravity add to the stretch just freaks me. After explant, is there

any treatment for tightening loose skin?

> I am curious about the fact that you have a cousin who had

implants removed

> to! what is the reason that you want them out and your cousin what

was her

> reason?

>

> I highly recommend if you can afford it to get explanted with Dr

Feng, I

> don't care what anyone says, I just don't think I have ever see

any one do

> more miracles that her with breast. Did you see the website that

shows how

> she made this mastectomy patient a new breast with skin and muscle

and fat

> from her abdomen, it is amazing. At the very least call her

office. Please

> it is worth the call to Ohio. I realize not everyone can get

there, but it

> is worth checking it out. Go to www.drfeng.com and look at the

photos, then

> also I recommend that you check out the www.explantation.com site

and she

> what the ladies there will tell you. trust me, I think Dr Feng has

more

> experience that anyone I know at this, she is so skilled and I am

sure she

> could help you.

>

> Please at least talk to her ok?

> hugs

> C

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " yssg888 " <yssg888@y...>

> < @y...>

> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 3:41 PM

> Subject: Re: I'm new, help!

>

>

> > Thanks e, & for replying. I couldn't post

earlier

> > as I couldn't get into my yssg777 email address. It's not so

much

> > keloid but that my scar has a tendency to remain red a long time,

> > and years after stay a permanent brown line. The line of scar

also

> > pulls the surrounding skin in a weird wrinkly fashion which I

hate.

> > Not to mention, it spreads too when I do stretching exercises

like

> > Yoga. My cousin has same problem. After a promise was given by

her

> > ps to keep her scar to maximum of 2 inches, she woke up from ga

to

> > find a 3 inch incision. That 1 inch makes a lot of difference to

> > someone whose scar has a tendency to pull/stays prominently

visible

> > forever, especially on a place like the breast. Her breast

capsule

> > was removed in one piece, don't know if that is the reason. But

he

> > would have been able to keep to promised scar length if he had

taken

> > care to cut the capsule in strips, right? She's so traumatised

I'm

> > worried for myself since there are ps sites which says the scar

> > might end up longer but then never gave reason why or just how

long

> > they mean. But once ps promise, if same happens, is it in line to

> > sue the ps, since I'm gonna be the one end up living with the

> > traumatic psychological aftermath?

> >

> >

> > --- In @y..., " e Rene " <e_Rene@m...>

wrote:

> > > I had my implants removed en bloc, capsule and all, by Dr.

Huang.

> > She went through the same inframammary incision that was used to

> > place my implant, although she did have to extend it more. My

> > entire scar is approx 2 " long and you can't even see it. I do

> > believe that most ps' will use internal dissolvable sutures, but

if

> > they use subcuticular, that doesn't mean that your scar will be

> > worse. In fact, if you've read the post lately, I am horribly

> > allergic to internal dissolvable sutures and so my surgeons have

to

> > use subcuticular sutures. I had my explant done that way, with

no

> > visible scar anymore, and my neck incision done that way, with

the

> > incision being very fine and faint, and not noticeable unless you

> > get up real close to me.

> > >

> > > However, being that you have a problem with scarring

(keloids?) I

> > would be sure to let your ps know this. Chances are internal

> > dissolvable sutures would be used, and there are always special

> > creams to use to lighten scars, including Mederma, vitamin E, and

> > there is one I just saw today that is indicated for scar

lightening

> > and fading (can't remember the name). But these are all issues

you

> > want to discuss with your ps so that he/she can help increase the

> > chances of a better aesthetic outcome.

> > >

> > > e

> > >

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: yssg777

> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:28 PM

> > > @y...

> > > Subject: I'm new, help!

> > >

> > > Need help from any ladies & from Dr. Kolb.

> > >

> > > I want to explant. Implant new but I've already form a capsule

> > and

> > > I want it out. I freak out just by the thought of the capsule

> > > inside me, and will remain like this till I distance myself

from

> > > this whole implant business. I don't just want it scored, I

> > want

> > > it out completely. Better in the end too, because of my

family's

> > > history of breast cancer.

> > >

> > > Can anyone tell me how long the crease scar will be due to this

> > > total capsule removal? I keep hearing from ps sites that the

> > scar

> > > from a capsulectomy will be much longer compared to simply

taking

> > > out the deflated saline bag. I'm scared. Due to my history of

> > bad

> > > scar healing, I need to find a ps who can take out the capsule

in

> > as

> > > short an incision as possible. I heard Dr Kolb does it, but

can

> > > she tell me what she expects the incision to be in terms of

> > inches -

> > > 2 inches or more?

> > >

> > > Any thoughts/reply re these 2 questions much much appreciated:

> > > 1] How short can it go?

> > > 2] For better scar healing, should I opt for dissolvable

internal

> > > stitching.

> > > 3] Is it true scars tend to spread if done with external

stitches

> > > where the thread has to be pull out after a week?

> > >

> > > Help, anybody?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Wow, you are in India? Do many women there get implants? It sounds like you have to go through quite an ordeal if you have to travel to another country for good quality care. I feel sorry for the women who get sick and can't get help. Please keep us updated on how things turn out for you! Unfortunately, I do not know anyone in that part of the world.

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: yssg888

Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 4:58 PM

Subject: Re: I'm new, help!

I based in the Indian subcontinent where a lot of us do prefer to travel out to Bangkok/Singapore to avail good facility. Does anyone know a good ps there? I'd have rocketed to Dr Feng if she was just across the street. But her area would add too much cost to the already high op fee? I'd say Dr Kolb's area sounds more likely as I get friends there who put me up free. My cousin had her implants out due to continuing capsule growth which ends up enlarging her breast as much as the implant. My case, everytime my breast jiggles during daily movement, I think of the implant stretching the tissue. I had always admired firm skin and wish I had given that more emphasis before BA confirms just how much I hate stretched skin. The thought that implant weight only help gravity add to the stretch just freaks me. After explant, is there any treatment for tightening loose skin? > > > I had my implants removed en bloc, capsule and all, by Dr. Huang.> > She went through the same inframammary incision that was used to> > place my implant, although she did have to extend it more. My> > entire scar is approx 2" long and you can't even see it. I do> > believe that most ps' will use internal dissolvable sutures, but if> > they use subcuticular, that doesn't mean that your scar will be> > worse. In fact, if you've read the post lately, I am horribly> > allergic to internal dissolvable sutures and so my surgeons have to> > use subcuticular sutures. I had my explant done that way, with no> > visible scar anymore, and my neck incision done that way, with the> > incision being very fine and faint, and not noticeable unless you> > get up real close to me.> > >> > > However, being that you have a problem with scarring (keloids?) I> > would be sure to let your ps know this. Chances are internal> > dissolvable sutures would be used, and there are always special> > creams to use to lighten scars, including Mederma, vitamin E, and> > there is one I just saw today that is indicated for scar lightening> > and fading (can't remember the name). But these are all issues you> > want to discuss with your ps so that he/she can help increase the> > chances of a better aesthetic outcome.> > >> > > e> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----> > > From: yssg777> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:28 PM> > > @y...> > > Subject: I'm new, help!> > >> > > Need help from any ladies & from Dr. Kolb.> > >> > > I want to explant. Implant new but I've already form a capsule> > and> > > I want it out. I freak out just by the thought of the capsule> > > inside me, and will remain like this till I distance myself from> > > this whole implant business. I don't just want it scored, I> > want> > > it out completely. Better in the end too, because of my family's> > > history of breast cancer.> > >> > > Can anyone tell me how long the crease scar will be due to this> > > total capsule removal? I keep hearing from ps sites that the> > scar> > > from a capsulectomy will be much longer compared to simply taking> > > out the deflated saline bag. I'm scared. Due to my history of> > bad> > > scar healing, I need to find a ps who can take out the capsule in> > as> > > short an incision as possible. I heard Dr Kolb does it, but can> > > she tell me what she expects the incision to be in terms of> > inches -> > > 2 inches or more?> > >> > > Any thoughts/reply re these 2 questions much much appreciated:> > > 1] How short can it go?> > > 2] For better scar healing, should I opt for dissolvable internal> > > stitching.> > > 3] Is it true scars tend to spread if done with external stitches> > > where the thread has to be pull out after a week?> > >> > > Help, anybody?> > >> > >> > >> > >

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: yssg888

The thought that implant weight only help gravity add to the stretch just freaks me. After explant, is there any treatment for tightening loose skin?

Have you had any children? How old are you? If you have not had any kids and are still quite young, then you most likely will have good elasticity to your breast skin and after the implants are removed, they will go back to their former size. I know of a club dancer who had her implants removed after getting sick and went back to dancing after explant. She looked the same after implants as before, (and still makes alot of money dancing!) The only thing that changed was a scar left from the nipple incision.

Patty

[Guest guest]

I used mederma consistently after my surgery too, I think it helped allot with my insions scars, I didn't like the smell at all though, and it stained allot of my bras. I was living alone then and used it all the time, I reaplied it at night and kept the scars very miost, since they look so good I am sure the mederma had allot to do with it, keep using it, good stuff!

----- Original Message -----

From: JULIEJJPALANCA@...

Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 8:31 PM

Subject: Re: Re: I'm new, help!

I agree, Dr. Kolb had me wear the 3m incition tape for about three weeks, and then after the skin had joined the best together that it can, to but Merderma and use it for about three months. I am using it now (for about a week) it smells good! Dr, Kolb said in studies it works better than even vitamin e. So I am using merderma twice during the day, and vitamin E at night. My scars are healing very nicely.

[Guest guest]

A lift is the best thing for stretched skin. did you see my post op recent

pics titled " up close " they really are looking good, I still have areas of

skin that due to stretch marks lookes kind of stretched, but if you don't

have the stretch marks you probably won't have this look. I think I may know

someone in India, is that where you are? I will try to locate the info for

you

Hugs

C

----- Original Message -----

From: " yssg888 " <yssg888@...>

< >

Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 5:58 PM

Subject: Re: I'm new, help!

> I based in the Indian subcontinent where a lot of us do prefer to

> travel out to Bangkok/Singapore to avail good facility. Does anyone

> know a good ps there? I'd have rocketed to Dr Feng if she was just

> across the street. But her area would add too much cost to the

> already high op fee? I'd say Dr Kolb's area sounds more likely as I

> get friends there who put me up free.

>

> My cousin had her implants out due to continuing capsule growth

> which ends up enlarging her breast as much as the implant. My case,

> everytime my breast jiggles during daily movement, I think of the

> implant stretching the tissue. I had always admired firm skin and

> wish I had given that more emphasis before BA confirms just how much

> I hate stretched skin. The thought that implant weight only help

> gravity add to the stretch just freaks me. After explant, is there

> any treatment for tightening loose skin?

>

>

>

> > > > I had my implants removed en bloc, capsule and all, by Dr.

> Huang.

> > > She went through the same inframammary incision that was used to

> > > place my implant, although she did have to extend it more. My

> > > entire scar is approx 2 " long and you can't even see it. I do

> > > believe that most ps' will use internal dissolvable sutures, but

> if

> > > they use subcuticular, that doesn't mean that your scar will be

> > > worse. In fact, if you've read the post lately, I am horribly

> > > allergic to internal dissolvable sutures and so my surgeons have

> to

> > > use subcuticular sutures. I had my explant done that way, with

> no

> > > visible scar anymore, and my neck incision done that way, with

> the

> > > incision being very fine and faint, and not noticeable unless you

> > > get up real close to me.

> > > >

> > > > However, being that you have a problem with scarring

> (keloids?) I

> > > would be sure to let your ps know this. Chances are internal

> > > dissolvable sutures would be used, and there are always special

> > > creams to use to lighten scars, including Mederma, vitamin E, and

> > > there is one I just saw today that is indicated for scar

> lightening

> > > and fading (can't remember the name). But these are all issues

> you

> > > want to discuss with your ps so that he/she can help increase the

> > > chances of a better aesthetic outcome.

> > > >

> > > > e

> > > >

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > From: yssg777

> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:28 PM

> > > > @y...

> > > > Subject: I'm new, help!

> > > >

> > > > Need help from any ladies & from Dr. Kolb.

> > > >

> > > > I want to explant. Implant new but I've already form a capsule

> > > and

> > > > I want it out. I freak out just by the thought of the capsule

> > > > inside me, and will remain like this till I distance myself

> from

> > > > this whole implant business. I don't just want it scored, I

> > > want

> > > > it out completely. Better in the end too, because of my

> family's

> > > > history of breast cancer.

> > > >

> > > > Can anyone tell me how long the crease scar will be due to this

> > > > total capsule removal? I keep hearing from ps sites that the

> > > scar

> > > > from a capsulectomy will be much longer compared to simply

> taking

> > > > out the deflated saline bag. I'm scared. Due to my history of

> > > bad

> > > > scar healing, I need to find a ps who can take out the capsule

> in

> > > as

> > > > short an incision as possible. I heard Dr Kolb does it, but

> can

> > > > she tell me what she expects the incision to be in terms of

> > > inches -

> > > > 2 inches or more?

> > > >

> > > > Any thoughts/reply re these 2 questions much much appreciated:

> > > > 1] How short can it go?

> > > > 2] For better scar healing, should I opt for dissolvable

> internal

> > > > stitching.

> > > > 3] Is it true scars tend to spread if done with external

> stitches

> > > > where the thread has to be pull out after a week?

> > > >

> > > > Help, anybody?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi!

I am certain we have many doctors in the Dallas, TX area who belong to an

International Registry, and I will check this resource for you on Monday,

October 14th. I know we have many doctors from India practicing here, in

various Specialties, who can give us referrals to Plastic Surgeons closer to

your current Homeland. Two of the individual doctors I will call here are

highly skilled Plastic Surgeons.

The 'loose stretched skin' which is concerning you, should be easily taken

care of at the same time as your explant surgery.

I will get back to you as soon as I hear from the sources I will contact on

Monday --- and I should have information for you by Tuesday evening (Texas

Time)!

Blessings,

Martha

Martha Murdock, Director

National Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters

" Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices "

4416 Willow Lane

Dallas, TX 75244-7537

----- Original Message -----

From: " yssg888 " <yssg888@...>

< >

Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 6:58 PM

Subject: Re: I'm new, help!

> I based in the Indian subcontinent where a lot of us do prefer to

> travel out to Bangkok/Singapore to avail good facility. Does anyone

> know a good ps there? I'd have rocketed to Dr Feng if she was just

> across the street. But her area would add too much cost to the

> already high op fee? I'd say Dr Kolb's area sounds more likely as I

> get friends there who put me up free.

>

> My cousin had her implants out due to continuing capsule growth

> which ends up enlarging her breast as much as the implant. My case,

> everytime my breast jiggles during daily movement, I think of the

> implant stretching the tissue. I had always admired firm skin and

> wish I had given that more emphasis before BA confirms just how much

> I hate stretched skin. The thought that implant weight only help

> gravity add to the stretch just freaks me. After explant, is there

> any treatment for tightening loose skin?

>

>

>

> > > > I had my implants removed en bloc, capsule and all, by Dr.

> Huang.

> > > She went through the same inframammary incision that was used to

> > > place my implant, although she did have to extend it more. My

> > > entire scar is approx 2 " long and you can't even see it. I do

> > > believe that most ps' will use internal dissolvable sutures, but

> if

> > > they use subcuticular, that doesn't mean that your scar will be

> > > worse. In fact, if you've read the post lately, I am horribly

> > > allergic to internal dissolvable sutures and so my surgeons have

> to

> > > use subcuticular sutures. I had my explant done that way, with

> no

> > > visible scar anymore, and my neck incision done that way, with

> the

> > > incision being very fine and faint, and not noticeable unless you

> > > get up real close to me.

> > > >

> > > > However, being that you have a problem with scarring

> (keloids?) I

> > > would be sure to let your ps know this. Chances are internal

> > > dissolvable sutures would be used, and there are always special

> > > creams to use to lighten scars, including Mederma, vitamin E, and

> > > there is one I just saw today that is indicated for scar

> lightening

> > > and fading (can't remember the name). But these are all issues

> you

> > > want to discuss with your ps so that he/she can help increase the

> > > chances of a better aesthetic outcome.

> > > >

> > > > e

> > > >

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > From: yssg777

> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:28 PM

> > > > @y...

> > > > Subject: I'm new, help!

> > > >

> > > > Need help from any ladies & from Dr. Kolb.

> > > >

> > > > I want to explant. Implant new but I've already form a capsule

> > > and

> > > > I want it out. I freak out just by the thought of the capsule

> > > > inside me, and will remain like this till I distance myself

> from

> > > > this whole implant business. I don't just want it scored, I

> > > want

> > > > it out completely. Better in the end too, because of my

> family's

> > > > history of breast cancer.

> > > >

> > > > Can anyone tell me how long the crease scar will be due to this

> > > > total capsule removal? I keep hearing from ps sites that the

> > > scar

> > > > from a capsulectomy will be much longer compared to simply

> taking

> > > > out the deflated saline bag. I'm scared. Due to my history of

> > > bad

> > > > scar healing, I need to find a ps who can take out the capsule

> in

> > > as

> > > > short an incision as possible. I heard Dr Kolb does it, but

> can

> > > > she tell me what she expects the incision to be in terms of

> > > inches -

> > > > 2 inches or more?

> > > >

> > > > Any thoughts/reply re these 2 questions much much appreciated:

> > > > 1] How short can it go?

> > > > 2] For better scar healing, should I opt for dissolvable

> internal

> > > > stitching.

> > > > 3] Is it true scars tend to spread if done with external

> stitches

> > > > where the thread has to be pull out after a week?

> > > >

> > > > Help, anybody?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

JJ, , deeply grateful for your sharing.

Your info beats that of Mederma website itself.

> I used mederma consistently after my surgery too, I think it

helped allot with my insions scars, I didn't like the smell at all

though, and it stained allot of my bras. I was living alone then and

used it all the time, I reaplied it at night and kept the scars very

miost, since they look so good I am sure the mederma had allot to do

with it, keep using it, good stuff!

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: JULIEJJPALANCA@a...

> @y...

> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 8:31 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: I'm new, help!

>

>

> I agree, Dr. Kolb had me wear the 3m incition tape for about

three weeks, and then after the skin had joined the best together

that it can, to but Merderma and use it for about three months. I am

using it now (for about a week) it smells good! Dr, Kolb said in

studies it works better than even vitamin e. So I am using merderma

twice during the day, and vitamin E at night. My scars are healing

very nicely.

>

[Guest guest]

The expats circle I mix with usually fly out anyway for home leave,

that's why we didn't think of doing it close to base. It'd be great

if you could give a recommendation right in India itself. Forgot

mention the other reason for wanting implant out - don't laugh but

ironically because we were fans of 's BA site. The more I

view her Befs & Afts, the more I feel the complete perfection of

implanted breasts look gross compared to the less imperfect natural

breasts. My own implants don't stand out and I look natural enough

but after being educated by her site, I could make out the man-

created natural can't take the place of my own natural form. Each

time I perspire and wipe my skin, I wonder at how I couldn't clean

up the implants underneath. No good to expect internal cleansing

mechanism to flush out the area around implant, huh? This

cleaniness aspect of implant sounds more gross than the look of

implant. Implants are ok - as long as it is outside of me.

Is it better to get lift immediately after explant or wait? No

sag/stretch marks.

> > > > > I had my implants removed en bloc, capsule and all, by Dr.

> > Huang.

> > > > She went through the same inframammary incision that was

used to

> > > > place my implant, although she did have to extend it more.

My

> > > > entire scar is approx 2 " long and you can't even see it. I

do

> > > > believe that most ps' will use internal dissolvable sutures,

but

> > if

> > > > they use subcuticular, that doesn't mean that your scar will

be

> > > > worse. In fact, if you've read the post lately, I am

horribly

> > > > allergic to internal dissolvable sutures and so my surgeons

have

> > to

> > > > use subcuticular sutures. I had my explant done that way,

with

> > no

> > > > visible scar anymore, and my neck incision done that way,

with

> > the

> > > > incision being very fine and faint, and not noticeable

unless you

> > > > get up real close to me.

> > > > >

> > > > > However, being that you have a problem with scarring

> > (keloids?) I

> > > > would be sure to let your ps know this. Chances are internal

> > > > dissolvable sutures would be used, and there are always

special

> > > > creams to use to lighten scars, including Mederma, vitamin

E, and

> > > > there is one I just saw today that is indicated for scar

> > lightening

> > > > and fading (can't remember the name). But these are all

issues

> > you

> > > > want to discuss with your ps so that he/she can help

increase the

> > > > chances of a better aesthetic outcome.

> > > > >

> > > > > e

> > > > >

> > > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > > From: yssg777

> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:28 PM

> > > > > @y...

> > > > > Subject: I'm new, help!

> > > > >

> > > > > Need help from any ladies & from Dr. Kolb.

> > > > >

> > > > > I want to explant. Implant new but I've already form a

capsule

> > > > and

> > > > > I want it out. I freak out just by the thought of the

capsule

> > > > > inside me, and will remain like this till I distance myself

> > from

> > > > > this whole implant business. I don't just want it

scored, I

> > > > want

> > > > > it out completely. Better in the end too, because of my

> > family's

> > > > > history of breast cancer.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can anyone tell me how long the crease scar will be due to

this

> > > > > total capsule removal? I keep hearing from ps sites that

the

> > > > scar

> > > > > from a capsulectomy will be much longer compared to simply

> > taking

> > > > > out the deflated saline bag. I'm scared. Due to my

history of

> > > > bad

> > > > > scar healing, I need to find a ps who can take out the

capsule

> > in

> > > > as

> > > > > short an incision as possible. I heard Dr Kolb does it,

but

> > can

> > > > > she tell me what she expects the incision to be in terms of

> > > > inches -

> > > > > 2 inches or more?

> > > > >

> > > > > Any thoughts/reply re these 2 questions much much

appreciated:

> > > > > 1] How short can it go?

> > > > > 2] For better scar healing, should I opt for dissolvable

> > internal

> > > > > stitching.

> > > > > 3] Is it true scars tend to spread if done with external

> > stitches

> > > > > where the thread has to be pull out after a week?

> > > > >

> > > > > Help, anybody?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

If you have no sag or stretch marks, I don't think you will need a

lift, unless you have huge, very very big implants. If you are

young and have not had kids, your skin will more than likely go back

to the way it was. However, if you have had kids, are older and

have less elasticity in your skin, you may want a lift--that will be

up to the plastic surgeon's recommendation.

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: yssg888

Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 12:29 AM

Subject: Re: I'm new, help!

The expats circle I mix with usually fly out anyway for home leave,

that's why we didn't think of doing it close to base. It'd be great

if you could give a recommendation right in India itself. Forgot

mention the other reason for wanting implant out - don't laugh but

ironically because we were fans of 's BA site. The more I

view her Befs & Afts, the more I feel the complete perfection of

implanted breasts look gross compared to the less imperfect natural

breasts. My own implants don't stand out and I look natural enough

but after being educated by her site, I could make out the man-

created natural can't take the place of my own natural form. Each

time I perspire and wipe my skin, I wonder at how I couldn't clean

up the implants underneath. No good to expect internal cleansing

mechanism to flush out the area around implant, huh? This

cleaniness aspect of implant sounds more gross than the look of

implant. Implants are ok - as long as it is outside of me.

Is it better to get lift immediately after explant or wait? No

sag/stretch marks.

[Guest guest]

I completely agree! The irony--they think they're promoting the things when it's not always the case. Rarely have I come across sites that BA actually looks good. I don't even think these thing look good! Mine looked like crap. I have only know of TWO women who's implants actually looked good -- since I lived in So. Calif--that's not saying much.

It seems *to me* that the women who look good with BA, are those who had small beautiful breasts to begin with (they should have left 'em that way). Those with saggy breast fare better with a concentric or vertical mastopexy than BA.

LM

[Guest guest]

Patty:

Hi. You're so right. I knew this girl (pro-implant) who thinks her implants are the cat's ass but they are crooked and look like round beach balls. When I asked her why one breast implant was much MUCH lower than the other (in the photo she sent to me), she immediately defended the implant and her PS by saying she has scoliosis (sp) of the spine and her back is off. Right. I know the difference between having a spine curve and total asymmetrical beach balls. Well, at least she's happy with them!

Take care.

LM