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I had high tin, Dr, Kolb says she believes this to ba a catalyst in saline bi. Hers is high too. Anyone else?

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I was tested for nickel and it was not a problem for me. The only thing I can think of at this point is the dental work--does she have crowns, root canals, bridges, etc? Major dental work like crowns are fitted with a nickel base if my understanding is correct. I have no major dental work in my mouth, so that may be why I test normal. Also, braces on the teeth are made of nickel sometimes--did she have braces?

According to Dr. Hal Huggins ("It's All in Your Head") nickel is carcinogenic and shouldn't be used in the mouth. There may be other sources of nickel that has affected her, but at this point, I don't know what they are.

What is Mobic?

Patty

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From: Heer

Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 6:55 AM

Subject: from a friend

Can anyone help this woman with this problem or has anyone been tested for nickel?

C

I got my results back today and they showed elevated levels of nickel. Compared to the rest of the levels this was very high? Do you have any ideas on why it is so elevated. The doctor told me it could be from wearing a lot of jewelry in some cases. I told him I don't wear any jewelry except my platinum wedding band and ring. He put me on Mobic? Help...

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Mobic is an NSAID (nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug). e ----- Original Message ----- From: ~*Patty*~ Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 12:53 PM Subject: Re: from a friend , I was tested for nickel and it was not a problem for me. The only thing I can think of at this point is the dental work--does she have crowns, root canals, bridges, etc? Major dental work like crowns are fitted with a nickel base if my understanding is correct. I have no major dental work in my mouth, so that may be why I test normal. Also, braces on the teeth are made of nickel sometimes--did she have braces? According to Dr. Hal Huggins ("It's All in Your Head") nickel is carcinogenic and shouldn't be used in the mouth. There may be other sources of nickel that has affected her, but at this point, I don't know what they are. What is Mobic? Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: Heer Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 6:55 AM Subject: from a friend Can anyone help this woman with this problem or has anyone been tested for nickel? C I got my results back today and they showed elevated levels of nickel. Compared to the rest of the levels this was very high? Do you have any ideas on why it is so elevated. The doctor told me it could be from wearing a lot of jewelry in some cases. I told him I don't wear any jewelry except my platinum wedding band and ring. He put me on Mobic? Help...

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Alot of good an anti-inflammatory is going to do about nickel in the body!! Sheesh. Talk about a band-aid. (Well, I do hope she feels better if that is what she needed.)

I think the only effective way to get rid of nickel is chelation therapy.

Patty

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From: e Rene

Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 1:56 PM

Subject: Re: from a friend

Mobic is an NSAID (nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug).

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----- Original Message -----

From: ~*Patty*~

Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 12:53 PM

Subject: Re: from a friend

,

I was tested for nickel and it was not a problem for me. The only thing I can think of at this point is the dental work--does she have crowns, root canals, bridges, etc? Major dental work like crowns are fitted with a nickel base if my understanding is correct. I have no major dental work in my mouth, so that may be why I test normal. Also, braces on the teeth are made of nickel sometimes--did she have braces?

According to Dr. Hal Huggins ("It's All in Your Head") nickel is carcinogenic and shouldn't be used in the mouth. There may be other sources of nickel that has affected her, but at this point, I don't know what they are.

What is Mobic?

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: Heer

Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 6:55 AM

Subject: from a friend

Can anyone help this woman with this problem or has anyone been tested for nickel?

C

I got my results back today and they showed elevated levels of nickel. Compared to the rest of the levels this was very high? Do you have any ideas on why it is so elevated. The doctor told me it could be from wearing a lot of jewelry in some cases. I told him I don't wear any jewelry except my platinum wedding band and ring. He put me on Mobic? Help...

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> >

> > Fibromyalgia pain can be widespread and often flares up

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> > the day. But even at night, fibromyalgia symptoms won't quit,

> robbing

> > you of precious sleep.

> >

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> > muscles, joints, ligaments and tendons. Patients also may feel

> > discomfort at various other points on the body, especially the

> neck,

> > back, shoulders, pelvis and hands.

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> > In addition, sleep problems and its associated fatigue are common

> > symptoms of fibromyalgia. Some patients repeatedly awaken during

> the

> > night. Others get plenty of sleep, but still feel tired in the

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> >

> > Some of the specific sleep disorders associated with fibromyalgia

> > include:

> >

> > Sleep apnea. Causes a patient's breathing to temporarily slow or

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> > while asleep. Pauses in breath occur up to 30 times an hour, and

> each

> > may last for 10 to 20 seconds. Left untreated, sleep apnea can be

> > life-threatening.

> >

> > Restless legs syndrome (RLS). Causes nighttime muscle spasms in

the

> > legs. Patients describe it as unpleasant creeping, crawling,

> > tingling, pulling or painful sensations.

> >

> > Periodic limb movement disorder (PLMD). Causes spasms similar to

> > those of restless legs syndrome, but occurs only during nighttime

> > sleep and often are more violent.

> >

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>So good ;

I know I wake up from not getting enough deep sleep.OI have to have

my PCP tell the rhumy I need a sleep study my legs donot move nor do

I snore. but I wake up and lok at the closck like 1 am then 4 am then

like 7 then go back to sleep and up at 8:30 in bed by 11-11:30 each

night I am on 25 miligrams of elavil I tired it at 50 and felt drunk

when I woke up.I am ret medical so I knowmy body so will ask my GYN

when I see her to up my elavil too in April or if she can pout in

there 25 miligrams 2ce a day and 60 taablets on days I need 25 I

will do that others I will do 50. but this is such a good article.

heidi

> Fibromyalgia & Sleep

>

> Fibromyalgia pain can be widespread and often flares up throughout

> the day. But even at night, fibromyalgia symptoms won't quit,

robbing

> you of precious sleep.

>

> Fibromyalgia is known for the chronic pain it causes in specific

> muscles, joints, ligaments and tendons. Patients also may feel

> discomfort at various other points on the body, especially the

neck,

> back, shoulders, pelvis and hands.

>

> In addition, sleep problems and its associated fatigue are common

> symptoms of fibromyalgia. Some patients repeatedly awaken during

the

> night. Others get plenty of sleep, but still feel tired in the

morning.

>

> Some of the specific sleep disorders associated with fibromyalgia

> include:

>

> Sleep apnea. Causes a patient's breathing to temporarily slow or

stop

> while asleep. Pauses in breath occur up to 30 times an hour, and

each

> may last for 10 to 20 seconds. Left untreated, sleep apnea can be

> life-threatening.

>

> Restless legs syndrome (RLS). Causes nighttime muscle spasms in

the

> legs. Patients describe it as unpleasant creeping, crawling,

> tingling, pulling or painful sensations.

>

> Periodic limb movement disorder (PLMD). Causes spasms similar to

> those of restless legs syndrome, but occurs only during nighttime

> sleep and often are more violent.

>

> Bruxism. Persistent grinding of the teeth thought to result from

> temporomandibular joint disorder (TMJD), a condition closely

> associated with fibromyalgia.

>

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> Fibromyalgia & Sleep

>

> Fibromyalgia pain can be widespread and often flares up throughout

> the day. But even at night, fibromyalgia symptoms won't quit,

robbing

> you of precious sleep.

>

> Fibromyalgia is known for the chronic pain it causes in specific

> muscles, joints, ligaments and tendons. Patients also may feel

> discomfort at various other points on the body, especially the

neck,

> back, shoulders, pelvis and hands.

>

> In addition, sleep problems and its associated fatigue are common

> symptoms of fibromyalgia. Some patients repeatedly awaken during

the

> night. Others get plenty of sleep, but still feel tired in the

morning.

>

> Some of the specific sleep disorders associated with fibromyalgia

> include:

>

> Sleep apnea. Causes a patient's breathing to temporarily slow or

stop

> while asleep. Pauses in breath occur up to 30 times an hour, and

each

> may last for 10 to 20 seconds. Left untreated, sleep apnea can be

> life-threatening.

>

> Restless legs syndrome (RLS). Causes nighttime muscle spasms in the

> legs. Patients describe it as unpleasant creeping, crawling,

> tingling, pulling or painful sensations.

>

> Periodic limb movement disorder (PLMD). Causes spasms similar to

> those of restless legs syndrome, but occurs only during nighttime

> sleep and often are more violent.

>

> Bruxism. Persistent grinding of the teeth thought to result from

> temporomandibular joint disorder (TMJD), a condition closely

> associated with fibromyalgia.

>

>

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> >Hi

> I am with you dear friend. I use a CPAP for sleep too, but last

> night I just could not sleep. I had very short spurts of sleep. Was

> up at 3:00 a.m. with my arm throbbing and hurting, had to take

> ibuprofen, even took another Benedryl hoping it would help me

sleep.

> Of course when its time to get up and get ready for work, I'm

> exhausted and want nothing more than to just sleep. I forced myself

> to get into to work at 7:30 and feel like my head is just going to

> lull to the side and I'm going to fall asleep. Didn't dare call in

> sick, co-workers would not understand at all.

>

> We'll hang in there together today.

>

> Deb in Oregon

>

>

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>You are going to feel so much better when they get your sleep

problems figured out. Hang in there.

Deb in Oregon

> I just had a sleep study done. I dont get the REM sleep that we

all need. They also found that I have lots of limb movements. RLS?

Not sure. Going to run more test. The sleep study doc did say that

I have one the worse cases of FMS that he has seen. My lungs slow

down and my heart slows down. I have low blood pressure during sleep

and low breathing during sleep. I now have to have 3 liters of

oxygen while sleeping. But I dont have sleep apena. Which is good

I guess. He is going to run some more tests before he does anything

about my getting the REM sleep that I need. Could I have CFS? Who

knows. All I know is I am tired and hurting all the time. More

when I find out more. Got to see regular doc today.

>

> Have a great day!

>

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hummm - well Deb- if I could GET my leg in that position, I would do that - I be fluffy so that ain't easy - although hey - I'm workin on it, I'm workin on it! LOL huggles "Debbie H." <djh_50fab@...> wrote: >Hi ,Yes, it makes perfect sense to me. That means you're probably getting some very tight muscles. You might try the sitting in a chair with your ankle on top of your knee, then stretch by leaning forward, but don't hunch keep your back in line and lean from the waist. You may have already tried this, but if your muscles are tight, it will hurt like a booger, but it will help.Deb in Oregon

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i had suggested then if you wake up during the night, try has hard as possible not to look at the clock... for whatever reasons if don't look at the clock it isn't as bad...heidi <heidilhlokey@...> wrote: >So good ;I know I wake up from not getting enough deep sleep.OI have to have my PCP tell the rhumy I need a sleep study my legs donot move nor do I snore. but I wake up and lok

at the closck like 1 am then 4 am then like 7 then go back to sleep and up at 8:30 in bed by 11-11:30 each night I am on 25 miligrams of elavil I tired it at 50 and felt drunk when I woke up.I am ret medical so I knowmy body so will ask my GYN when I see her to up my elavil too in April or if she can pout in there 25 miligrams 2ce a day and 60 taablets on days I need 25 I will do that others I will do 50. but this is such a good article. heidi> Fibromyalgia & Sleep> > Fibromyalgia pain can be widespread and often flares up throughout > the day. But even at night, fibromyalgia symptoms won't quit, robbing > you of precious sleep.> > Fibromyalgia is known for the chronic pain it causes in specific > muscles, joints, ligaments and tendons. Patients also may feel > discomfort at various other points on the body, especially the neck, > back, shoulders, pelvis and

hands.> > In addition, sleep problems and its associated fatigue are common > symptoms of fibromyalgia. Some patients repeatedly awaken during the > night. Others get plenty of sleep, but still feel tired in the morning.> > Some of the specific sleep disorders associated with fibromyalgia > include:> > Sleep apnea. Causes a patient's breathing to temporarily slow or stop > while asleep. Pauses in breath occur up to 30 times an hour, and each > may last for 10 to 20 seconds. Left untreated, sleep apnea can be > life-threatening.> > Restless legs syndrome (RLS). Causes nighttime muscle spasms in the > legs. Patients describe it as unpleasant creeping, crawling, > tingling, pulling or painful sensations.> > Periodic limb movement disorder (PLMD). Causes spasms similar to > those of restless legs syndrome, but occurs only

during nighttime > sleep and often are more violent.> > Bruxism. Persistent grinding of the teeth thought to result from > temporomandibular joint disorder (TMJD), a condition closely > associated with fibromyalgia.>

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For me too Deb, however I don't have a better half LOL. My doctor yells at me - actually he doesn't, he's been very good. But the Lyrica has caused me to gain weight and that's not good. *sigh* huggles karen "Debbie H." <djh_50fab@...> wrote: > >Hi ,> Yes, it makes perfect sense to me. That means you're probably > getting some very tight muscles. You might try the sitting in a > chair with your ankle on top of your knee, then stretch by leaning > forward, but don't hunch keep your back in line and lean from the > waist. You may have already tried this, but if your muscles are > tight, it will hurt like a booger, but it will help.> > Deb in Oregon> > ---------------------------------> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.>

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I also had a rapid weight gain after my diagnosis of fms/cf. The docs at first believed it was the neurontin and effexor, something I don't recommend is deciding to cut back on without medical supervision. I have gotten very sick trying that a couple of times...In anycase, my nutritionist suspected that although those meds can help gain, she believed that there were probably some food allergies were involved in the weight gain. Your "gut" has alot to say about how everything works together in your body including nutrients going to the right place to start the process. If that area is having a problem with something it's digesting ----well lets us the phrase, if mamma aim't happy---ain't nobody happy!!!All kinds of bad things follow for your body, Leaky gut syndrome, ibs,etc, etc.

The 1st test indicated a BIG ALLERGY to gluten, wheat, rye, oat, barley ! After changing my diet 60 lbs of sick, bloated, toxic body were gone. Then my wonderfull son-in-law rescued a dog, the county could not find an owner. I said I would watch her while they found a home for her-----well you guessed it, she is still here AND I credit Kellie for licking me to take her for walks early in summer, and just a litte later in winter---she needs long walks/2 per day, and a play period about 45 min. So the weight has stayed off. When I feel really crappy and its cold, ha windy and I can.t do the walks, My adorable hubby picks up my slack. But she did get me out and about, we had just moved here, now I have met and chatted with most.

I did have a change in meds about 6 mos ago--from neurontin to lyrica--I have not experienced weight gain from the addition of the lyrcia, it seems that the removal of "gluten" items from my diet have doen thet]

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> > >Hi ,> > Yes, it makes perfect sense to me. That means you're probably > > getting some very tight muscles. You might try the sitting in a > > chair with your ankle on top of your knee, then stretch by leaning > > forward, but don't hunch keep your back in line and lean from the > > waist. You may have already tried this, but if your muscles are > > tight, it will hurt like a booger, but it will help.> > > > Deb in Oregon> > > > ---------------------------------> > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > Search.> >> > > > > >

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You know - I've been doing low carbs due to a diagnosis of pre-diabetes and I eat mostly fresh fruit, nuts, limited meats. So little or no pasta, etc. (isn't that predominently where glutin is found?) I wonder if that's how I have been successful in not gaining and loosing weight while on the Lyrica. suezohh <suezohh@...> wrote: I also had a rapid weight gain after my diagnosis of fms/cf. The docs at first believed it was the neurontin and effexor, something I don't recommend is deciding to cut back on without medical supervision. I have gotten very sick trying that a couple of times...In anycase, my nutritionist suspected that although those meds can help gain, she believed that there were probably some food allergies were involved in the weight gain. Your "gut" has alot to say about how everything works together in your body including nutrients going to the right place to start the process. If that area is having a problem with something it's digesting ----well lets us the phrase, if mamma aim't happy---ain't nobody happy!!!All kinds of bad things follow for your body, Leaky gut syndrome, ibs,etc, etc. The 1st test indicated a BIG ALLERGY to

gluten, wheat, rye, oat, barley ! After changing my diet 60 lbs of sick, bloated, toxic body were gone. Then my wonderfull son-in-law rescued a dog, the county could not find an owner. I said I would watch her while they found a home for her-----well you guessed it, she is still here AND I credit Kellie for licking me to take her for walks early in summer, and just a litte later in winter---she needs long walks/2 per day, and a play period about 45 min. So the weight has stayed off. When I feel really crappy and its cold, ha windy and I can.t do the walks, My adorable hubby picks up my slack. But she did get me out and about, we had just moved here, now I have met and chatted with most. I did have a change in meds about 6 mos ago--from neurontin to lyrica--I have not experienced weight gain from the addition of the lyrcia, it

seems that the removal of "gluten" items from my diet have doen thet] s t > > >Hi ,> > Yes, it makes perfect sense to me. That means you're probably > > getting some very tight muscles. You might try the sitting in a > > chair with your ankle on top of your knee, then stretch by leaning > > forward, but don't hunch keep your back in line and lean from the > > waist. You may have already tried this, but if your muscles are > > tight, it will hurt like a booger, but it will help.> > > > Deb in Oregon>

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