Fw: Dr. Nicolson's message

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----- Original Message -----

From: " Rogene " <saxony01@...>

" " <idagirl@...>

Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:32 AM

Subject: Dr. Nicolson's message

> ,

>

> Would you post the reply I received from Dr. Nicolson? . . .

>

> I don't know why, but I can't get my computer to let me post to the

> website. . . .maybe one of the hackers got to me!

>

> Rogene

>

> Here is his response. . . . BTW, Zuckerman told me that Dr. Nicolson

> is highly regarded by his peers.

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Garth Nicolson " <gnicolson@...>

> " Rogene " <saxony01@...>

> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:41 PM

> Subject: Re: Question

>

>

> Yes, we have done some work on implant cases, and we have found that women

> with implants and diagnoses of FMS, RA or CFS usually have intracellular

> chronic infections, including mycoplasma, chlamydia, etc. It is not clear

> whether they obtained these infections at the time of implantation or when

> the implants leaked and caused immune dysfunction. These infections can

be

> tested for and treated, and we have seen women who recovered after proper

> diagnosis and treatment.

>

> For CFS/ME or FMS, RA, autism or autoimmune disease patients, The

Institute

> for Molecular Medicine suggests the following lab tests (codes are IMD or

> CPT codes). Please note that patients should be off all antibiotics and

> immune enhancement products for 4 weeks prior to testing to insure that

the

> test will not be a false-negative due to the antibiotic suppression of a

> blood infection.

>

> 1. Test Panel 1007 (CPT: 87798x3, 87581) pathogenic mycoplasmas (M.

> fermentans, M. penumoniae, M. hominis, M.

> penetrans) by PCR. Justification: Almost 60% of CFS/FMS and 50% of

> Rheumatoid Arthritis (RA) and other autoimmune patients have one or more

> intracellular, systemic mycoplasmal infections similar to those found in a

> variety of chronic illnesses [Nicolson et al. Mycoplasmal infections in

> chronic illnesses: Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Syndromes, Gulf War

> Illness, HIV-AIDS and Rheumatoid Arthritis. Medical Sentinel 1999;

> 5:172-176]. Ultrasensitive and ultraspecific mycoplasma tests can only be

> done by a small number of labs, most university or government labs that

have

> been trained by us under a U.S. government contract. Specimen

Requirements:

> one (1) 5 cc Lavender top Plastic Tube (EDTA). The blood is collected,

> immediately mixed and placed on ice, then shipped on wet ice (overnight

> domestic air courier) or immediately flash frozen and shipped with dry ice

> by air courier (foreign shipments) to IMD to arrive within 24-36 hours.

> Cost=$450 (Note that other commercial labs charge $500-600)

>

> 2. Test 1006 (CPT: 87486) CFS, FMS,MS, RA and other patients have this

> systemic infection along with

> viral infection(s). We were among the few labs that developed the

molecular

> tests that are now done for this type of infection. The other labs that

use

> these procedures are university labs. Requirements: one (1) 5 cc Lavender

> top Plastic Tube (EDTA). Specimen Requirements: one (1) 5 cc Lavender top

> Plastic Tube (EDTA). The blood is collected, immediately mixed and placed

on

> ice, then shipped on wet ice (overnight domestic air courier) or

immediately

> flash frozen and shipped with dry ice by air courier (foreign shipments)

to

> IMD to arrive within 24-36 hours. Cost=$190 (Note that other commercial

> labs charge $200-250)

>

> 3. Test 07056 (CPT: 87486) previously found that some GWI patients have

this

> chronic infection which

> causes Brucellosis, an airborne infection causing system-wide chronic

signs

> and symptoms similar to GWI. We are the only lab that has a molecular

test

> for this infection. Requirements: . Requirements: one (1) 5 cc Lavender

> top Plastic Tube (EDTA). Specimen Requirements: one (1) 5 cc Lavender top

> Plastic Tube (EDTA). The blood is collected, immediately mixed and placed

on

> ice, then shipped on wet ice (overnight domestic air courier) or

immediately

> flash frozen and shipped with dry ice by air courier (foreign shipments)

to

> IMD to arrive within 24-36 hours. Cost=$180 (Note that only a few

> commercial offer this test and charge $220 for an antibody-based test that

> is less sensitive and specific)

>

> 4. Test 07047 (CPT: 87476) Justification: Many CFS, FMS and RA patients

have

> this systemic infection

> (diagnosed as Lyme Disease) along with other infection(s). Requirements:

> one (1) 5 cc Lavender top Plastic Tube (EDTA). Specimen Requirements: one

> (1) 5 cc Lavender top Plastic Tube (EDTA). The blood is collected,

> immediately mixed and placed on ice, then shipped on wet ice (overnight

> domestic air courier) or immediately flash frozen and shipped with dry ice

> by air courier (foreign shipments) to IMD to arrive within 24-36 hours.

> Cost=$190 (Note that other commercial labs charge $200-250)

>

> 5.Test 07039 (CPT: 87532) Justification: Many CFS and some FMS patients

have

> this systemic viral

> infection, and it should be tested for in any autoimmune illness.

Specimen

> Requirements: Collect blood in one (1) 5 cc Lavender Top Plasma Tubes

> (EDTA), mixed and separate blood plasma by centrifugation. The plasma is

> collected, placed on ice, then shipped on wet ice (overnight domestic air

> courier) or immediately flash frozen and shipped with dry ice by air

courier

> (foreign shipments) to IMD to arrive within 24-36 hours. Cost=$190 (Note

> that other commercial labs charge $200-350)

>

> 6. Test 07034 (CPT: 87496) Justification: Many CFS and FMS patients have

> this systemic viral infection,

> and it should be tested for in any autoimmune illness. Specimen

> Requirements: Collect blood in one (1) 5 cc Lavender Top Plasma Tubes

> (EDTA), mixed and separate blood plasma by centrifugation. The plasma is

> collected, placed on ice, then shipped on wet ice (overnight domestic air

> courier) or immediately flash frozen and shipped with dry ice by air

courier

> (foreign shipments) to IMD to arrive within 24-36 hours. Cost=$190 (Note

> that other commercial labs charge $200-300)

>

> For best price and highest quality I suggest that the above PCR specialty

> tests for CFS/FMS patients be ordered through International Molecular

> Diagnostics, Inc., 15162 Triton Lane, Huntington Beach, CA 92649 USA. Tel:

> 714-799-7177, ext. 202 (Client Services). Order forms and additional

> information are available upon request. Tests must be ordered by a

physician

> and prepaid or approved by insurance, and patients must be off all

> antibiotics and immune enhancement products for at least 4 weeks prior to

> testing. Also, there is a requirement for payment, just in case your

> insurance company does not fully pay for the testing procedures. The IMD

> website is www.imd-lab.com. On this site you will find additional

> information about testing and disease. The Institute for Molecular

Medicine

> website is www.immed.org. On this site you will find publications and

> documents on CFS/ME, FMS, autoimmune diseases and other chronic illnesses.

>

> Prof. Garth Nicolson

> President & Chief Scientific Officer,

> The Institute for Molecular Medicine

> Professor of Internal Medicine

>

> >From: " Rogene " <saxony01@...>

> ><gnicolson@...>

> >Subject: Question

> >Date: .Oct 08, 2002, 5:33 PM

> >

>

> > Dr. Nicolson,

>

> > I found you listed as a staff member of the Institute for Molecular

> > Medicine.

> >

> > I'm inquiring about if you are doing any work that would explain the

> > illnesses women who have had breast implants for extended periods are

> > experiencing. The illnesses appear to be autoimmune diseases like Lupus,

> MS,

> > CFS, arthritis, but frequently improve dramatically after implants are

> > removed.

>

> > I would appreciate any information you have regarding the relationship

of

> > breast implants to autoimmune diseases, especially if you know of any

work

> > that is being done to stop the progression of these illnesses.

> >

> > Thank you for your time and consideration,

> >

> > Rogene Schorer

> ----------

>

[Guest guest]

We test and treat using this protocol and Dr. Nicoloson has been on the

radio show twice. He commented that his protocol for gulf war was very

similar to my protocol for silicone. He had gulf war syndrome and I has

silicone immune dysfunction. He is very intuitive. .

-----Original Message-----

From: Heer [mailto:idagirl@...]

Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 7:18 PM

Subject: Fw: Dr. Nicolson's message

----- Original Message -----

From: " Rogene " <saxony01@...>

" " <idagirl@...>

Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:32 AM

Subject: Dr. Nicolson's message

> ,

>

> Would you post the reply I received from Dr. Nicolson? . . .

>

> I don't know why, but I can't get my computer to let me post to the

> website. . . .maybe one of the hackers got to me!

>

> Rogene

>

> Here is his response. . . . BTW, Zuckerman told me that Dr. Nicolson

> is highly regarded by his peers.

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Garth Nicolson " <gnicolson@...>

> " Rogene " <saxony01@...>

> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:41 PM

> Subject: Re: Question

>

>

> Yes, we have done some work on implant cases, and we have found that women

> with implants and diagnoses of FMS, RA or CFS usually have intracellular

> chronic infections, including mycoplasma, chlamydia, etc. It is not clear

> whether they obtained these infections at the time of implantation or when

> the implants leaked and caused immune dysfunction. These infections can

be

> tested for and treated, and we have seen women who recovered after proper

> diagnosis and treatment.

>

> For CFS/ME or FMS, RA, autism or autoimmune disease patients, The

Institute

> for Molecular Medicine suggests the following lab tests (codes are IMD or

> CPT codes). Please note that patients should be off all antibiotics and

> immune enhancement products for 4 weeks prior to testing to insure that

the

> test will not be a false-negative due to the antibiotic suppression of a

> blood infection.

>

> 1. Test Panel 1007 (CPT: 87798x3, 87581) pathogenic mycoplasmas (M.

> fermentans, M. penumoniae, M. hominis, M.

> penetrans) by PCR. Justification: Almost 60% of CFS/FMS and 50% of

> Rheumatoid Arthritis (RA) and other autoimmune patients have one or more

> intracellular, systemic mycoplasmal infections similar to those found in a

> variety of chronic illnesses [Nicolson et al. Mycoplasmal infections in

> chronic illnesses: Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Syndromes, Gulf War

> Illness, HIV-AIDS and Rheumatoid Arthritis. Medical Sentinel 1999;

> 5:172-176]. Ultrasensitive and ultraspecific mycoplasma tests can only be

> done by a small number of labs, most university or government labs that

have

> been trained by us under a U.S. government contract. Specimen

Requirements:

> one (1) 5 cc Lavender top Plastic Tube (EDTA). The blood is collected,

> immediately mixed and placed on ice, then shipped on wet ice (overnight

> domestic air courier) or immediately flash frozen and shipped with dry ice

> by air courier (foreign shipments) to IMD to arrive within 24-36 hours.

> Cost=$450 (Note that other commercial labs charge $500-600)

>

> 2. Test 1006 (CPT: 87486) CFS, FMS,MS, RA and other patients have this

> systemic infection along with

> viral infection(s). We were among the few labs that developed the

molecular

> tests that are now done for this type of infection. The other labs that

use

> these procedures are university labs. Requirements: one (1) 5 cc Lavender

> top Plastic Tube (EDTA). Specimen Requirements: one (1) 5 cc Lavender top

> Plastic Tube (EDTA). The blood is collected, immediately mixed and placed

on

> ice, then shipped on wet ice (overnight domestic air courier) or

immediately

> flash frozen and shipped with dry ice by air courier (foreign shipments)

to

> IMD to arrive within 24-36 hours. Cost=$190 (Note that other commercial

> labs charge $200-250)

>

> 3. Test 07056 (CPT: 87486) previously found that some GWI patients have

this

> chronic infection which

> causes Brucellosis, an airborne infection causing system-wide chronic

signs

> and symptoms similar to GWI. We are the only lab that has a molecular

test

> for this infection. Requirements: . Requirements: one (1) 5 cc Lavender

> top Plastic Tube (EDTA). Specimen Requirements: one (1) 5 cc Lavender top

> Plastic Tube (EDTA). The blood is collected, immediately mixed and placed

on

> ice, then shipped on wet ice (overnight domestic air courier) or

immediately

> flash frozen and shipped with dry ice by air courier (foreign shipments)

to

> IMD to arrive within 24-36 hours. Cost=$180 (Note that only a few

> commercial offer this test and charge $220 for an antibody-based test that

> is less sensitive and specific)

>

> 4. Test 07047 (CPT: 87476) Justification: Many CFS, FMS and RA patients

have

> this systemic infection

> (diagnosed as Lyme Disease) along with other infection(s). Requirements:

> one (1) 5 cc Lavender top Plastic Tube (EDTA). Specimen Requirements: one

> (1) 5 cc Lavender top Plastic Tube (EDTA). The blood is collected,

> immediately mixed and placed on ice, then shipped on wet ice (overnight

> domestic air courier) or immediately flash frozen and shipped with dry ice

> by air courier (foreign shipments) to IMD to arrive within 24-36 hours.

> Cost=$190 (Note that other commercial labs charge $200-250)

>

> 5.Test 07039 (CPT: 87532) Justification: Many CFS and some FMS patients

have

> this systemic viral

> infection, and it should be tested for in any autoimmune illness.

Specimen

> Requirements: Collect blood in one (1) 5 cc Lavender Top Plasma Tubes

> (EDTA), mixed and separate blood plasma by centrifugation. The plasma is

> collected, placed on ice, then shipped on wet ice (overnight domestic air

> courier) or immediately flash frozen and shipped with dry ice by air

courier

> (foreign shipments) to IMD to arrive within 24-36 hours. Cost=$190 (Note

> that other commercial labs charge $200-350)

>

> 6. Test 07034 (CPT: 87496) Justification: Many CFS and FMS patients have

> this systemic viral infection,

> and it should be tested for in any autoimmune illness. Specimen

> Requirements: Collect blood in one (1) 5 cc Lavender Top Plasma Tubes

> (EDTA), mixed and separate blood plasma by centrifugation. The plasma is

> collected, placed on ice, then shipped on wet ice (overnight domestic air

> courier) or immediately flash frozen and shipped with dry ice by air

courier

> (foreign shipments) to IMD to arrive within 24-36 hours. Cost=$190 (Note

> that other commercial labs charge $200-300)

>

> For best price and highest quality I suggest that the above PCR specialty

> tests for CFS/FMS patients be ordered through International Molecular

> Diagnostics, Inc., 15162 Triton Lane, Huntington Beach, CA 92649 USA. Tel:

> 714-799-7177, ext. 202 (Client Services). Order forms and additional

> information are available upon request. Tests must be ordered by a

physician

> and prepaid or approved by insurance, and patients must be off all

> antibiotics and immune enhancement products for at least 4 weeks prior to

> testing. Also, there is a requirement for payment, just in case your

> insurance company does not fully pay for the testing procedures. The IMD

> website is www.imd-lab.com. On this site you will find additional

> information about testing and disease. The Institute for Molecular

Medicine

> website is www.immed.org. On this site you will find publications and

> documents on CFS/ME, FMS, autoimmune diseases and other chronic illnesses.

>

> Prof. Garth Nicolson

> President & Chief Scientific Officer,

> The Institute for Molecular Medicine

> Professor of Internal Medicine

>

> >From: " Rogene " <saxony01@...>

> ><gnicolson@...>

> >Subject: Question

> >Date: .Oct 08, 2002, 5:33 PM

> >

>

> > Dr. Nicolson,

>

> > I found you listed as a staff member of the Institute for Molecular

> > Medicine.

> >

> > I'm inquiring about if you are doing any work that would explain the

> > illnesses women who have had breast implants for extended periods are

> > experiencing. The illnesses appear to be autoimmune diseases like Lupus,

> MS,

> > CFS, arthritis, but frequently improve dramatically after implants are

> > removed.

>

> > I would appreciate any information you have regarding the relationship

of

> > breast implants to autoimmune diseases, especially if you know of any

work

> > that is being done to stop the progression of these illnesses.

> >

> > Thank you for your time and consideration,

> >

> > Rogene Schorer

> ----------

>

[Guest guest]

I just got done reading this article on Dr. Nicolson, and I can't believe it, I just got done reading a book based on his studies. For information regarding more on mycoplasma with Dr. Nickolson, read Rheumatoid Athritis, the Infection Connection, by M .Poehlmann. It is an awesome book, and Dr. Kolb has had me on this protocal (with minocin) three times a week for my rheumatoid arthrits,for as long as the symptoms keep flaring, and I am already feeling better. (I had my implants removed last month) Awesome book with alot of information for arthritis, yeast overgrowth, infections, ms, gulf was syndrome, asthma, allergies, and many more problems.