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Hi e:

Are you still online? I tried to call you earlier but your line was busy, it's getting late so I'll call you tomorrow.

Thank you for your kind words. Yes, it's no joke having such hurtful things said to you by a supposed fellow "support" member. Being refereed to as an "exhibitionist" was not nice either, but if making my feelings know makes me one, then so be it. Also, I need to tell you that this individual has said you're an exhibitionist on this site too--that was commented to me via e-mail. That is rather unfortunate but I thought you should be warned. I will e-mail you privately as I wish not to disclose any name publicly unless it happens again.

It's regretful in one's time of need to have issues brought up that have no relevance whatsoever in PS or my suffering as a result of having had BI. What was the worst slap in the face was being told I don't care about women here--that's not true! While I do kick up dust and shake things up here and there, there is no person I wouldn't help on this site. Not one. For this arrogant person to say I said particular things she should at least get the info straight first.

As for my father, hopefully things might work out down the road--you never know--though I won't hold my breath. I really don't feel "wrong." After all I never lied to him, I just never told him what was going on because I was not close to him or felt the need to do so as he's not really a big part of my life. I didn't think it was his or anyone's business. I kept the BI thing from LOTS of folks out of sheer embarrassment. I guess I can see the irresponsible part of it though, if it didn't have the harshness to go with it I'd be OK with it.

Are your folks mad at you for getting implants? How did they react? Did they blame you for the problems that went with it?

Take care,

-Marie AKA "exhibitionist"

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-Marie, I am absolutely shocked and appalled that someone would deliver the low blows they did. What makes people want to hurt people, and bring up issues that are totally irrelevant? I can see no reason why someone would bring up issues with your father, finances, money, etc for any reason that would pertain to what this support group is about. This group is here to support women through difficult trying times surrounding the implant issue. But it's not just about the BI issue; it's about forming common bonds and friendships with women with otherwise would not have met. But bad luck, poor decisions, ill health, and many other reasons have brought us together, and I consider this group to be fairly close knit. For someone to make statements such as the ones you mentioned is uncalled for and the identity of that person should be revealed so that Patty and can address this issue. Furthermore, as long as we are not bashing an individual, then we are allowed to voice our opinions, concerns, and feelings. If this person doesn't like the intelligent, rational views you share with the group, along with the valuable information you provide to all the members, then maybe they should decide to unsubscribe themselves. Like Patty has stated, bashing on this site is not tolerated, and it sounds like you were bashed. It clearly hurt you, and caused distress. How can one feel "safe" when there are women on this group who turn around and stab you in the back? Can anyone be trusted anymore? I would like to see and Patty address this issue and confront the individual that caused you such distress. e

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e,

Unless someone is attacking someone on the group, there is not much I can do about it, but I can be watchful of anything that is out of our rules and then I would either ban the person or at the very least put them on a moderated status. Since -Marie has disclosed things to me, I am aware of who and what to watch out for. I hope that this person will at the very least try to apologize for the hurtful things she said. Again, if anyone does anything like this on the group we will not tolerate it. but when it comes to private emails outside the group that is beyond my scope of ability to do something.

Don't worry though, I feel the same way as you,Patty, and -Marie about this issue.

take care

----- Original Message -----

From: JUSTINE Rene

Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:04 AM

Subject: -Marie

-Marie,

I am absolutely shocked and appalled that someone would deliver the low blows they did. What makes people want to hurt people, and bring up issues that are totally irrelevant? I can see no reason why someone would bring up issues with your father, finances, money, etc for any reason that would pertain to what this support group is about.

This group is here to support women through difficult trying times surrounding the implant issue. But it's not just about the BI issue; it's about forming common bonds and friendships with women with otherwise would not have met. But bad luck, poor decisions, ill health, and many other reasons have brought us together, and I consider this group to be fairly close knit. For someone to make statements such as the ones you mentioned is uncalled for and the identity of that person should be revealed so that Patty and can address this issue. Furthermore, as long as we are not bashing an individual, then we are allowed to voice our opinions, concerns, and feelings. If this person doesn't like the intelligent, rational views you share with the group, along with the valuable information you provide to all the members, then maybe they should decide to unsubscribe themselves.

Like Patty has stated, bashing on this site is not tolerated, and it sounds like you were bashed. It clearly hurt you, and caused distress. How can one feel "safe" when there are women on this group who turn around and stab you in the back? Can anyone be trusted anymore?

I would like to see and Patty address this issue and confront the individual that caused you such distress.

e

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We are all on your side sweetie so don't worry, block this person on your email and then you will not have to hear the painful words again.

Hugs

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From: perlesetlacet@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:39 AM

Subject: Re: -Marie

Hi e:Are you still online? I tried to call you earlier but your line was busy, it's getting late so I'll call you tomorrow.Thank you for your kind words. Yes, it's no joke having such hurtful things said to you by a supposed fellow "support" member. Being refereed to as an "exhibitionist" was not nice either, but if making my feelings know makes me one, then so be it. Also, I need to tell you that this individual has said you're an exhibitionist on this site too--that was commented to me via e-mail. That is rather unfortunate but I thought you should be warned. I will e-mail you privately as I wish not to disclose any name publicly unless it happens again. It's regretful in one's time of need to have issues brought up that have no relevance whatsoever in PS or my suffering as a result of having had BI. What was the worst slap in the face was being told I don't care about women here--that's not true! While I do kick up dust and shake things up here and there, there is no person I wouldn't help on this site. Not one. For this arrogant person to say I said particular things she should at least get the info straight first.As for my father, hopefully things might work out down the road--you never know--though I won't hold my breath. I really don't feel "wrong." After all I never lied to him, I just never told him what was going on because I was not close to him or felt the need to do so as he's not really a big part of my life. I didn't think it was his or anyone's business. I kept the BI thing from LOTS of folks out of sheer embarrassment. I guess I can see the irresponsible part of it though, if it didn't have the harshness to go with it I'd be OK with it.Are your folks mad at you for getting implants? How did they react? Did they blame you for the problems that went with it?Take care,-Marie AKA "exhibitionist"

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AMEN!

'And I do not think there should be any "maybe" about it! That "Bashing ?????" needs to go to another group.

MM

Martha Murdock, DirectorNational Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters"Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices"4416 Willow LaneDallas, TX 75244-7537

----- Original Message -----

From: JUSTINE Rene

Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 3:04 AM

Subject: -Marie

-Marie,

I am absolutely shocked and appalled that someone would deliver the low blows they did. What makes people want to hurt people, and bring up issues that are totally irrelevant? I can see no reason why someone would bring up issues with your father, finances, money, etc for any reason that would pertain to what this support group is about.

This group is here to support women through difficult trying times surrounding the implant issue. But it's not just about the BI issue; it's about forming common bonds and friendships with women with otherwise would not have met. But bad luck, poor decisions, ill health, and many other reasons have brought us together, and I consider this group to be fairly close knit. For someone to make statements such as the ones you mentioned is uncalled for and the identity of that person should be revealed so that Patty and can address! this issue. Furthermore, as long as we are not bashing an individual, then we are allowed to voice our opinions, concerns, and feelings. If this person doesn't like the intelligent, rational views you share with the group, along with the valuable information you provide to all the members, then maybe they should decide to unsubscribe themselves.

Like Patty has stated, bashing on this site is not tolerated, and it sounds like you were bashed. It clearly hurt you, and caused distress. How can one feel "safe" when there are women on this group who turn around and stab you in the back? Can anyone be trusted anymore?

I would like to see and Patty address this issue and confront the individual that caused you such distress.

e

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I got the black begonia sandals and the black Dettie ankle boots. I also got some other sandals, that I got in the store at clearance at Nordstroms in Salt Lake, not sure which style they are but they are cute and comfy

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From: perlesetlacet@...

Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 3:18 PM

Subject: Re: -Marie

:Hi again. What pairs did you order?LM

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Yeah they are all sweet I love them! Those are good, they are so cute, you will love them!

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From: perlesetlacet@...

Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 3:16 PM

Subject: Re: -Marie

Thanks--they're AWESOME! I'm ordering the Zyrilla and maybe the Heidi.What do you think?-Marie

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Patty:

Hi. I think I'll check out this juicing. I need more protein the docs say.....

Thanks for the info.

LMTrish Trish <harvest2harvest@...> wrote:

Hi -Marie,

Have you tried juicing at all? If your endo are telling you that you need nutrition, I can't think of a better way to get a bunch of vitamins and minerals faster than juicing. You couldn't possibly eat a whole bag of carrots in one sitting, but you can sure juice them.

September seems like such a long way off! Why don't you give it a try until then?

And don't forget about the all important essential fatty acids....are you taking Evening Primrose oil?

Patty

Jane Doe <oceanlilly_csu@...> wrote:

Patty:

Hi! You're such a dear!

Yes, I will go to Oxford if I can't get answers here soon. The endos tell me I need nutrition(that's my problem). My appetite is very small. I have made an appointment in Sept. to see an internist in Bethesda who specializes in nutrition. She's booked until Sept. Meanwhile after the lab scrwed up my tests (lossing samples too) I went for a redraw on Friday. I don't trust the lab so I'm trying to contact my gyn to run more tests at GU. It's frustrating because I leave message after message! It's getting old......

Anyway, you are so sweet to send me an uplifting message today. I'm feeling better except for the PMS!

Hugs,

LM

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