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Hi Daryl,

We have a few superior PSs here, when it comes to explantation. I will send you more information tomorrow, as it is way past my bedtime. Surely, if you decided to come to Dallas for explant surgery, you could have a 'space available pass' to fly here. I was a flight attendant, also, about 100 years ago! Ha!

I will give you more info to check out tomorrow, if I can send the information directly to you, as we never post this kind of information re doctors to an entire group. More about that later also!

Please send me a personal email so I can respond to your personal email address!

Blessings,

MM

Martha Murdock, DirectorNational Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters"Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices"4416 Willow LaneDallas, TX 75244-7537

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From: Daryl

Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 2:24 AM

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You always have such wonderful things to say. I wanted to know if you had health problems or pain with your implants and who took them out for you. Did you have to detox your system? Did anyone help you or did you figure it out on your own?

I've had terrible muscle pain, fatigue, brain fog, and depression for almost 4 yrs. I've had my implants in for 14 yrs. I want to get them taken out, I'm just trying to hear some stories from other women. I work for an airline that flies to Dallas so maybe they would let me fly free there for surgery. Thanks-Daryl

Martha Murdock, DirectorNational Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters"Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices"4416 Willow LaneDallas, TX 75244-7537

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Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:44 PM

Subject: 'Retraining' therapy may help ringing in ears want this?

'Retraining' therapy may help ringing in ears

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - People troubled by persistent ringing in the ears known as tinnitus may find relief with therapy aimed at changing the way they think about the problem, according to new research findings.Tinnitus is a common disorder, estimated to affect 36 million Americans. It can arise from a number of causes, from ear wax build-up to medication side effects to hearing loss. For some people, the noise is persistent and bothersome enough to interfere with daily life.Treatment depends on the underlying problem, but one strategy--known as tinnitus retraining therapy (TRT)--involves counseling to change the way patients perceive and react to the ear noise. In addition, small "noise generators" that can be worn in the ear are used to provide a low-level sound that competes with the tinnitus and makes it less noticeable.In the new study, 6 months of TRT improved both physical and emotional well-being among 32 patients with tinnitus, according to findings published in the October issue of the Archives of Otolaryngology--Head and Neck Surgery. The patients had been living with the ear ringing for more than 7 years, on average."These...results thus suggest that TRT is effective in reducing some of the distressing effects associated with tinnitus," report Dr. A. Berry and colleagues at the University of land Medical System in Baltimore.The study assessed patients' scores on a standard test of daily functioning and emotional well-being before and after 6 months of TRT. After therapy, Berry's team reports, there was a "significant improvement" in test scores--in practical measures such as job performance and concentration, and in the way patients reacted emotionally to their tinnitus.According to the researchers, evidence suggests that "the brain can be retrained to remove the negative emotional association given to the tinnitus signal."For its part, the sound-generating ear device may blur the contrast between a patient's tinnitus and everyday noises in the environment, helping to change the way the tinnitus is perceived.Berry and her colleagues call for larger, longer-term studies to confirm their findings.SOURCE: Archives of Otolaryngology--Head and Neck Surgery 2002;128:1153-1157.gigi* http://www.reutershealth.com/archive/2002/10/18/eline/links/20021018elin012.html

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I am really not sure why Martha can't post any info on the group to help others out with finding a PS in Dallas, however it is no SECRET that Dr Mehlmed is there and he is a good one. Martha what is with the secretiveness when women are crying out in pain cannot understand why you cannot give a Dr's name out on line, that is not going to hurt anyone, and people need help. I hate to say it but it gets tiring hearing of you say you know all these wonderful Dr's but you never tell anyone who they are!! Are you forgetting that this is life and death to some of us and that this group is here for women to share info on Dr's not hide it.

Please Martha try to share the info if you have it, and try not to tease us with it.

Daryl there is a list on the site and you can get the names of PS's there, I will once again send it to you and post it here again. I am so sorry that Martha doesn't want to divulge her info! I will try to help however I can. I don't know about Dr Lee, but I do know about Dr Melmed and also Dr Huang, have you tried her? e posted her info

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From: MARTHA

Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 2:37 AM

Subject: Re: Re: [saline Support) For Martha

Hi Daryl,

We have a few superior PSs here, when it comes to explantation. I will send you more information tomorrow, as it is way past my bedtime. Surely, if you decided to come to Dallas for explant surgery, you could have a 'space available pass' to fly here. I was a flight attendant, also, about 100 years ago! Ha!

I will give you more info to check out tomorrow, if I can send the information directly to you, as we never post this kind of information re doctors to an entire group. More about that later also!

Please send me a personal email so I can respond to your personal email address!

Blessings,

MM

Martha Murdock, DirectorNational Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters"Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices"4416 Willow LaneDallas, TX 75244-7537

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From: Daryl

Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 2:24 AM

Subject: Re: [saline Support) For Martha

You always have such wonderful things to say. I wanted to know if you had health problems or pain with your implants and who took them out for you. Did you have to detox your system? Did anyone help you or did you figure it out on your own?

I've had terrible muscle pain, fatigue, brain fog, and depression for almost 4 yrs. I've had my implants in for 14 yrs. I want to get them taken out, I'm just trying to hear some stories from other women. I work for an airline that flies to Dallas so maybe they would let me fly free there for surgery. Thanks-Daryl

Martha Murdock, DirectorNational Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters"Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices"4416 Willow LaneDallas, TX 75244-7537

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From: ParfumGigi@...

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Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:44 PM

Subject: 'Retraining' therapy may help ringing in ears want this?

'Retraining' therapy may help ringing in ears

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - People troubled by persistent ringing in the ears known as tinnitus may find relief with therapy aimed at changing the way they think about the problem, according to new research findings.Tinnitus is a common disorder, estimated to affect 36 million Americans. It can arise from a number of causes, from ear wax build-up to medication side effects to hearing loss. For some people, the noise is persistent and bothersome enough to interfere with daily life.Treatment depends on the underlying problem, but one strategy--known as tinnitus retraining therapy (TRT)--involves counseling to change the way patients perceive and react to the ear noise. In addition, small "noise generators" that can be worn in the ear are used to provide a low-level sound that competes with the tinnitus and makes it less noticeable.In the new study, 6 months of TRT improved both physical and emotional well-being among 32 patients with tinnitus, according to findings published in the October issue of the Archives of Otolaryngology--Head and Neck Surgery. The patients had been living with the ear ringing for more than 7 years, on average."These...results thus suggest that TRT is effective in reducing some of the distressing effects associated with tinnitus," report Dr. A. Berry and colleagues at the University of land Medical System in Baltimore.The study assessed patients' scores on a standard test of daily functioning and emotional well-being before and after 6 months of TRT. After therapy, Berry's team reports, there was a "significant improvement" in test scores--in practical measures such as job performance and concentration, and in the way patients reacted emotionally to their tinnitus.According to the researchers, evidence suggests that "the brain can be retrained to remove the negative emotional association given to the tinnitus signal."For its part, the sound-generating ear device may blur the contrast between a patient's tinnitus and everyday noises in the environment, helping to change the way the tinnitus is perceived.Berry and her colleagues call for larger, longer-term studies to confirm their findings.SOURCE: Archives of Otolaryngology--Head and Neck Surgery 2002;128:1153-1157.gigi* http://www.reutershealth.com/archive/2002/10/18/eline/links/20021018elin012.html

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Hi. I agree. I will ask my PS if it's OK to post his name. He told me before it was--but that was a few months ago. I have not also posted my doctor's name because I had been the victim of Internet stalking--this will be resolved though very soon. Those who have contacted me privately, I have shared who my PS is. I too think it's crap to withhold help from others. If we can't help one another, why be a member to this forum--it's that simple.

LM

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Dear ,

Perhaps if you knew more about many things that transpired with this issue 'before' you got involved, you would not be asking such questions -- nor, would you be making such caustic statements.

I WILL give you specific answers to your questions, and you should be totally embarrased to see that you never thought beyond your own nose. Believe it, or not, this entire issue began nearly 20-years ago, and many really 'ugly' things happened before you were even old enough to consider having implants.

I repeatedly state, "knowledge is power", and many ladies need to do their 'homework' before they get active in this issue, so others do not get 'hurt' as a result of someone's lack of knowledge!

More later,

MM

Martha Murdock, DirectorNational Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters"Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices"4416 Willow LaneDallas, TX 75244-7537

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From: Heer

Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 10:02 AM

Subject: Re: Re: [saline Support) For Martha

I am really not sure why Martha can't post any info on the group to help others out with finding a PS in Dallas, however it is no SECRET that Dr Mehlmed is there and he is a good one. Martha what is with the secretiveness when women are crying out in pain cannot understand why you cannot give a Dr's name out on line, that is not going to hurt anyone, and people need help. I hate to say it but it gets tiring hearing of you say you know all these wonderful Dr's but you never tell anyone who they are!! Are you forgetting that this is life and death to some of us and that this group is here for women to share info on Dr's not hide it.

Please Martha try to share the info if you have it, and try not to tease us with it.

Daryl there is a list on the site and you can get the names of PS's there, I will once again send it to you and post it here again. I am so sorry that Martha doesn't want to divulge her info! I will try to help however I can. I don't know about Dr Lee, but I do know about Dr Melmed and also Dr Huang, have you tried her? e posted her info

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From: MARTHA

Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 2:37 AM

Subject: Re: Re: [saline Support) For Martha

Hi Daryl,

We have a few superior PSs here, when it comes to explantation. I will send you more information tomorrow, as it is way past my bedtime. Surely, if you decided to come to Dallas for explant surgery, you could have a 'space available pass' to fly here. I was a flight attendant, also, about 100 years ago! Ha!

I will give you more info to check out tomorrow, if I can send the information directly to you, as we never post this kind of information re doctors to an entire group. More about that later also!

Please send me a personal email so I can respond to your personal email address!

Blessings,

MM

Martha Murdock, DirectorNational Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters"Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices"4416 Willow LaneDallas, TX 75244-7537

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From: Daryl

Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 2:24 AM

Subject: Re: [saline Support) For Martha

You always have such wonderful things to say. I wanted to know if you had health problems or pain with your implants and who took them out for you. Did you have to detox your system? Did anyone help you or did you figure it out on your own?

I've had terrible muscle pain, fatigue, brain fog, and depression for almost 4 yrs. I've had my implants in for 14 yrs. I want to get them taken out, I'm just trying to hear some stories from other women. I work for an airline that flies to Dallas so maybe they would let me fly free there for surgery. Thanks-Daryl

Martha Murdock, DirectorNational Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters"Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices"4416 Willow LaneDallas, TX 75244-7537

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From: ParfumGigi@...

MAM-NSIF@... ; frontiers20k@...

Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:44 PM

Subject: 'Retraining' therapy may help ringing in ears want this?

'Retraining' therapy may help ringing in ears

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - People troubled by persistent ringing in the ears known as tinnitus may find relief with therapy aimed at changing the way they think about the problem, according to new research findings.Tinnitus is a common disorder, estimated to affect 36 million Americans. It can arise from a number of causes, from ear wax build-up to medication side effects to hearing loss. For some people, the noise is persistent and bothersome enough to interfere with daily life.Treatment depends on the underlying problem, but one strategy--known as tinnitus retraining therapy (TRT)--involves counseling to change the way patients perceive and react to the ear noise. In addition, small "noise generators" that can be worn in the ear are used to provide a low-level sound that competes with the tinnitus and makes it less noticeable.In the new study, 6 months of TRT improved both physical and emotional well-being among 32 patients with tinnitus, according to findings published in the October issue of the Archives of Otolaryngology--Head and Neck Surgery. The patients had been living with the ear ringing for more than 7 years, on average."These...results thus suggest that TRT is effective in reducing some of the distressing effects associated with tinnitus," report Dr. A. Berry and colleagues at the University of land Medical System in Baltimore.The study assessed patients' scores on a standard test of daily functioning and emotional well-being before and after 6 months of TRT. After therapy, Berry's team reports, there was a "significant improvement" in test scores--in practical measures such as job performance and concentration, and in the way patients reacted emotionally to their tinnitus.According to the researchers, evidence suggests that "the brain can be retrained to remove the negative emotional association given to the tinnitus signal."For its part, the sound-generating ear device may blur the contrast between a patient's tinnitus and everyday noises in the environment, helping to change the way the tinnitus is perceived.Berry and her colleagues call for larger, longer-term studies to confirm their findings.SOURCE: Archives of Otolaryngology--Head and Neck Surgery 2002;128:1153-1157.gigi* http://www.reutershealth.com/archive/2002/10/18/eline/links/20021018elin012.html

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Thanks L-M,

I will be happy to do this, however, I do not seem to have her email address. Will you send it to me please, or ask her to contact me. It would also benefit her if I knew which implants she has, etc.

Blessings,

MM

Martha Murdock, DirectorNational Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters"Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices"4416 Willow LaneDallas, TX 75244-7537

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From: perlesetlacet@...

Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 4:09 PM

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Martha:Hi. Please e-mail Daryl the information about Dallas PS's.Take care,LM

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Thanks L-M,

I will send her the info this weekend! My Bed is calling me now!

Martha Murdock, DirectorNational Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters"Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices"4416 Willow LaneDallas, TX 75244-7537

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From: perlesetlacet@...

Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 12:32 AM

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Hi Martha:Here's Daryl's e-mail addy:daryljean@...Thanks,LM

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Dear ,

I have been helping many women, and some men also, for nearly 10-years now. I have learned all 'are not for real'! I have also learned there is normally at least one "shill" in each group, planted by the manufacturers. Therefore, caution is the better part of valor!

Please tell me what you know about many doctors who were helping BI women 10-years ago, and why they are no longer in practice!

MM

Martha Murdock, DirectorNational Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters"Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices"4416 Willow LaneDallas, TX 75244-7537

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From: Heer

Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 6:20 PM

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I think that it is a free country and we def can tell others of our experience with Drs so if someone know a good PS they should just say who it is. Or if they cannot tell us then why share with the group it is like saying oh yeah I know this great dr but ha ha can't tell ya who he is. That is crap. We have lists and there is nothing legally wrong with this at all. Now if we were saying negative things and really hacking on someone that would be bad and I don't think any of us would do that, we might say not to go to a certain Dr if he is known for having bad results or if he will do explant en bloc etc. But this group is specifically for the purpose of helping others and for helping sick women find Drs who are sympathetic to our cause. So if people on this group are going to recomend Dr I see no possible legal problems with this. I see no reason why you cannot recomend a Dr either on line or on the phone or in person etc. I don't see the difference between sharing the info with one person or 20! Anyhow I just think that if there are good Docs that can help we should not keep it a secret we need to help or why even be on this site at all?

HUgs

C

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From: JUSTINE RENE'

Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 2:48 PM

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I was wondering the same thing. The only thing I can think of is we shouldn't post info about docs without their permission or without them knowing we do so. However, when we recommend a doc, that is sending business their way, and any doc loves that!

We need to post about our experiences with ps', who we recommend, and who we wouldn't. To do so otherwise is misleading. That is what this group is about---information and support.

e

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From: Heer

Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 7:53 AM

Subject: Re: Re: [saline Support) For Martha

I am really not sure why Martha can't post any info on the group to help others out with finding a PS in Dallas, however it is no SECRET that Dr Mehlmed is there and he is a good one. Martha what is with the secretiveness when women are crying out in pain cannot understand why you cannot give a Dr's name out on line, that is not going to hurt anyone, and people need help. I hate to say it but it gets tiring hearing of you say you know all these wonderful Dr's but you never tell anyone who they are!! Are you forgetting that this is life and death to some of us and that this group is here for women to share info on Dr's not hide it.

Please Martha try to share the info if you have it, and try not to tease us with it.

Daryl there is a list on the site and you can get the names of PS's there, I will once again send it to you and post it here again. I am so sorry that Martha doesn't want to divulge her info! I will try to help however I can. I don't know about Dr Lee, but I do know about Dr Melmed and also Dr Huang, have you tried her? e posted her info

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From: MARTHA

Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 2:37 AM

Subject: Re: Re: [saline Support) For Martha

Hi Daryl,

We have a few superior PSs here, when it comes to explantation. I will send you more information tomorrow, as it is way past my bedtime. Surely, if you decided to come to Dallas for explant surgery, you could have a 'space available pass' to fly here. I was a flight attendant, also, about 100 years ago! Ha!

I will give you more info to check out tomorrow, if I can send the information directly to you, as we never post this kind of information re doctors to an entire group. More about that later also!

Please send me a personal email so I can respond to your personal email address!

Blessings,

MM

Martha Murdock, DirectorNational Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters"Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices"4416 Willow LaneDallas, TX 75244-7537

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From: Daryl

Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 2:24 AM

Subject: Re: [saline Support) For Martha

You always have such wonderful things to say. I wanted to know if you had health problems or pain with your implants and who took them out for you. Did you have to detox your system? Did anyone help you or did you figure it out on your own?

I've had terrible muscle pain, fatigue, brain fog, and depression for almost 4 yrs. I've had my implants in for 14 yrs. I want to get them taken out, I'm just trying to hear some stories from other women. I work for an airline that flies to Dallas so maybe they would let me fly free there for surgery. Thanks-Daryl

Martha Murdock, DirectorNational Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters"Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices"4416 Willow LaneDallas, TX 75244-7537

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From: ParfumGigi@...

MAM-NSIF@... ; frontiers20k@...

Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:44 PM

Subject: 'Retraining' therapy may help ringing in ears want this?

'Retraining' therapy may help ringing in ears

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - People troubled by persistent ringing in the ears known as tinnitus may find relief with therapy aimed at changing the way they think about the problem, according to new research findings.Tinnitus is a common disorder, estimated to affect 36 million Americans. It can arise from a number of causes, from ear wax build-up to medication side effects to hearing loss. For some people, the noise is persistent and bothersome enough to interfere with daily life.Treatment depends on the underlying problem, but one strategy--known as tinnitus retraining therapy (TRT)--involves counseling to change the way patients perceive and react to the ear noise. In addition, small "noise generators" that can be worn in the ear are used to provide a low-level sound that competes with the tinnitus and makes it less noticeable.In the new study, 6 months of TRT improved both physical and emotional well-being among 32 patients with tinnitus, according to findings published in the October issue of the Archives of Otolaryngology--Head and Neck Surgery. The patients had been living with the ear ringing for more than 7 years, on average."These...results thus suggest that TRT is effective in reducing some of the distressing effects associated with tinnitus," report Dr. A. Berry and colleagues at the University of land Medical System in Baltimore.The study assessed patients' scores on a standard test of daily functioning and emotional well-being before and after 6 months of TRT. After therapy, Berry's team reports, there was a "significant improvement" in test scores--in practical measures such as job performance and concentration, and in the way patients reacted emotionally to their tinnitus.According to the researchers, evidence suggests that "the brain can be retrained to remove the negative emotional association given to the tinnitus signal."For its part, the sound-generating ear device may blur the contrast between a patient's tinnitus and everyday noises in the environment, helping to change the way the tinnitus is perceived.Berry and her colleagues call for larger, longer-term studies to confirm their findings.SOURCE: Archives of Otolaryngology--Head and Neck Surgery 2002;128:1153-1157.gigi* http://www.reutershealth.com/archive/2002/10/18/eline/links/20021018elin012.html

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Could I just call you directly with my questions? I'm so grateful for E-mail but it takes awhile to go back and forth. My home # is 702-361-6442. If you call me I'll call you right back or you can leave your # on my answering machine. Because I'm so ill, I don't get to my computer every day. Thank you so much-Daryl

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From: MARTHA

Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:37 AM

Subject: Re: Re: [saline Support) For Martha

Hi Daryl,

We have a few superior PSs here, when it comes to explantation. I will send you more information tomorrow, as it is way past my bedtime. Surely, if you decided to come to Dallas for explant surgery, you could have a 'space available pass' to fly here. I was a flight attendant, also, about 100 years ago! Ha!

I will give you more info to check out tomorrow, if I can send the information directly to you, as we never post this kind of information re doctors to an entire group. More about that later also!

Please send me a personal email so I can respond to your personal email address!

Blessings,

MM

Martha Murdock, DirectorNational Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters"Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices"4416 Willow LaneDallas, TX 75244-7537

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From: Daryl

Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 2:24 AM

Subject: Re: [saline Support) For Martha

You always have such wonderful things to say. I wanted to know if you had health problems or pain with your implants and who took them out for you. Did you have to detox your system? Did anyone help you or did you figure it out on your own?

I've had terrible muscle pain, fatigue, brain fog, and depression for almost 4 yrs. I've had my implants in for 14 yrs. I want to get them taken out, I'm just trying to hear some stories from other women. I work for an airline that flies to Dallas so maybe they would let me fly free there for surgery. Thanks-Daryl

Martha Murdock, DirectorNational Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters"Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices"4416 Willow LaneDallas, TX 75244-7537

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From: ParfumGigi@...

MAM-NSIF@... ; frontiers20k@...

Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:44 PM

Subject: 'Retraining' therapy may help ringing in ears want this?

'Retraining' therapy may help ringing in ears

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - People troubled by persistent ringing in the ears known as tinnitus may find relief with therapy aimed at changing the way they think about the problem, according to new research findings.Tinnitus is a common disorder, estimated to affect 36 million Americans. It can arise from a number of causes, from ear wax build-up to medication side effects to hearing loss. For some people, the noise is persistent and bothersome enough to interfere with daily life.Treatment depends on the underlying problem, but one strategy--known as tinnitus retraining therapy (TRT)--involves counseling to change the way patients perceive and react to the ear noise. In addition, small "noise generators" that can be worn in the ear are used to provide a low-level sound that competes with the tinnitus and makes it less noticeable.In the new study, 6 months of TRT improved both physical and emotional well-being among 32 patients with tinnitus, according to findings published in the October issue of the Archives of Otolaryngology--Head and Neck Surgery. The patients had been living with the ear ringing for more than 7 years, on average."These...results thus suggest that TRT is effective in reducing some of the distressing effects associated with tinnitus," report Dr. A. Berry and colleagues at the University of land Medical System in Baltimore.The study assessed patients' scores on a standard test of daily functioning and emotional well-being before and after 6 months of TRT. After therapy, Berry's team reports, there was a "significant improvement" in test scores--in practical measures such as job performance and concentration, and in the way patients reacted emotionally to their tinnitus.According to the researchers, evidence suggests that "the brain can be retrained to remove the negative emotional association given to the tinnitus signal."For its part, the sound-generating ear device may blur the contrast between a patient's tinnitus and everyday noises in the environment, helping to change the way the tinnitus is perceived.Berry and her colleagues call for larger, longer-term studies to confirm their findings.SOURCE: Archives of Otolaryngology--Head and Neck Surgery 2002;128:1153-1157.gigi* http://www.reutershealth.com/archive/2002/10/18/eline/links/20021018elin012.html

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I agree. Other PS's have come "out" on this issue--many more need to though. These Dallas docs need to grow some balls and help women publicly. Feng, Melmed, Huang and that guy at UCLA does so what's the big mystery here?

LM

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I have no idea, I don't even believe there is a mystery. I think that someone is making more out of this than there really is. Do you know what I mean?

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Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 5:53 PM

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:I agree. Other PS's have come "out" on this issue--many more need to though. These Dallas docs need to grow some balls and help women publicly. Feng, Melmed, Huang and that guy at UCLA does so what's the big mystery here?LM

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Yes if a Dr isn't up for standing up to this breast implant situation, personally I would rather not be recommending them!

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:I agree. If these Dallas docs need to be shrouded in "secrecy," I'm suspicious of their ability to do good/ethical surgery. Screw that.LM

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Dear :

Hi! Thanks so much for your kind words--it means so much.

As Patty had been your savior, that is what you and e are to me. I don't know what I'd do without the pair of you.

So e is your PMS buddy? Well, move over and make room for me because I have absolutely terrible PMS!!!

I love you too.

-Marie

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Thanks as always for your support LM

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Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 5:56 PM

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And one more thing--I went public (picture and all) with my story about my ordeal with BI in the internationally recognized Washington Post so to say we do nothing is a f****** insult. Going public caused me some personal problems, but it was the right thing to do and I'll do it again as I do intend to do a follow up story. BTW, it was who put me in touch with Kaufman at The Post.

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There have been 2 this year, 2002!

Martha Murdock, DirectorNational Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters"Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices"4416 Willow LaneDallas, TX 75244-7537

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From: Heer

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 6:15 PM

Subject: Re: Re: [saline Support) For Martha

First of all I think that when all these FDA hearings were going on I was still implanted and on my death bed, living in my trailer by myself supporting myself and my kid, working full time and so sick I could hardly do anything, let alone travel, and had no money either. this was long before I got married. I think that there is many types of work to be done in this implant mess, not just showing up for FDA trials which by the way, I heard you didn't actually speak but that you ended up putting that job that was your job onto your boyfriend, because you were too ill to speak at the hearings. Which I sympathize with, as I know what it is like to be too ill. Back then I was newly implanted and very sick and frightened. However I don't think it is right to demean the work we all do here on this site Martha, by calling our conversations dumb and telling us we are just chit chatting. Please, this is important helping other women through this ordeal and to trivialize it this way is hurtful and mean.

I also don't think it is immature to be concerned with how our breasts look after we get explanted, I am still young and do enjoy an intimate relationship with my husband which is very important to me. If you can worry about your feet look in sandals why in gods name can I not be concerned about scars on my breasts?

this post is cruel and I wish You would take a better look at it and realy apologize for putting us down in this way.

C

----- Original Message -----

From: MARTHA

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:42 AM

Subject: Re: Re: [saline Support) For Martha

I do not recall ever seeing any of you, other than Patty, in DC at any of the FDA or IOM Conferences or meetings, regarding any form of Breast Implants! I also have never seen any of you in DC lobbying to keep these implants, which are nothing more than 'trash', off the market.

As a matter of fact I've never seen any one of you, other than Patty, taking any action to help other women with their BI problems, other than on this "chit-chat" group, expressing little more than you own uninformed, mostly dumb, comments; in addition to a bunch of other gossip & nonsense.

If you all ever mature, you will find life is much more than "how cute & great" someone's breasts look. ly, I'm now more concerned about how 'ugly' my skinny feet look in sandals! Or, If I have any additional dark spots on my hands, regardless of how small! Most of all I am concerned about how my heart looks to God, and if I am doing enough to help others who need my help in any area where I have expertise, and may not be sharing enough knowledge with others! Has my friendship really helped someone today?

Blessings,

MM

Martha Murdock, DirectorNational Silicone Implant Foundation | Dallas Headquarters"Supporting Survivors of Medical Implant Devices"4416 Willow LaneDallas, TX 75244-7537

----- Original Message -----

From: Heer

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:32 AM

Subject: Re: Re: [saline Support) For Martha

Yes if a Dr isn't up for standing up to this breast implant situation, personally I would rather not be recommending them!

----- Original Message -----

From: perlesetlacet@...

Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 5:44 PM

Subject: Re: Re: [saline Support) For Martha

:I agree. If these Dallas docs need to be shrouded in "secrecy," I'm suspicious of their ability to do good/ethical surgery. Screw that.LM

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