Re: conspiracy theory

[Guest guest]

It's not a matter of " believing " in conspiracy

theories about standard treatments (like religion or

U.F.O.s, etc.) It's a matter of facts in the public

record. Read former congressman Haley's book

Politics In Healing and prepare yourself for a major

re-assessment of the world in which you live.

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Message: 1

Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 16:44:31 -0000

From: " karlamonyc " <karlamo@...>

Subject: Re: Complementary and alternative med info

, I am open minded about alternatives and

supplement, but I

don't buy into the conspiracy theory about standard

treatments. The

best book I've ever read about cancer and natural

medicine is by

Boik. Have you read that?

About the conspiracy therory, a friend and advocate

said it

well: " Not only politicians, regulators, scientists,

doctors and

pharmaceutical officers get cancer, but their parents,

siblings

children, grandchildren and best friends - so we have

an interested

majority in any group you can think of - and we have

to work the

system by speaking up, being active and letting them

know that we

care and that we expect them to do their best to deal

with this

devastating plague in our society. " - Leonard R.

-Karl

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[Guest guest]

Another good book is the " Medical Mafia - How to get out of it alive and take

back our health and wealth. " by Guylaine Lanctot M.D.

Her web site is : www.personocratia.com

Check out her diagram on that web page " The Big Picture- The Four Levels of

Human Awareness "

Rand

david shore <davidmshore@...> wrote: It's not a matter of " believing " in

conspiracy

theories about standard treatments (like religion or

U.F.O.s, etc.) It's a matter of facts in the public

record. Read former congressman Haley's book

Politics In Healing and prepare yourself for a major

re-assessment of the world in which you live.

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Message: 1

Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 16:44:31 -0000

From: " karlamonyc " <karlamo@...>

Subject: Re: Complementary and alternative med info

, I am open minded about alternatives and

supplement, but I

don't buy into the conspiracy theory about standard

treatments. The

best book I've ever read about cancer and natural

medicine is by

Boik. Have you read that?

About the conspiracy therory, a friend and advocate

said it

well: " Not only politicians, regulators, scientists,

doctors and

pharmaceutical officers get cancer, but their parents,

siblings

children, grandchildren and best friends - so we have

an interested

majority in any group you can think of - and we have

to work the

system by speaking up, being active and letting them

know that we

care and that we expect them to do their best to deal

with this

devastating plague in our society. " - Leonard R.

-Karl

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[Guest guest]

Please understand I'm not satisfied with what we have as treatment --

alternative, conventional, or otherwise. I think it's important not

to dismiss standard treatments, but I think it's also important to

critically *investigate* alternative and investigational treatments

*especially* when standard treatments do not improve survival and

have major toxicity. Also, I think it's important to investigate

complementary approaches that might enhance standard treatments or

reduce the side effects -- it's amazing how much useful info is not

getting to the average person -- such as fish oil enhancing chemo,

and glutamine enhancing chemo and protecting mucosa etc.

Bottom line is that ~ half a million Americans die from cancer each

year, which really #$$% and speaks to the need to be highly

*dissatified*. But, depending on the type of cancer you have and the

stage etc, a good number of people beat it sometimes with standard

treatments. If I have one message for people fighting cancer it's

don't make assumptions and learn what everyone has to say. I would

also advise people to look at clinical trials. There is lots of

excitement (and also disappointments) with targeted treatments that

address the molecular cause of cancer -- damage to genes that cause

dysregulation in cell growth or programmed cell death.

my .02 cents. :-) -Karl

> It's not a matter of " believing " in conspiracy

> theories about standard treatments (like religion or

> U.F.O.s, etc.) It's a matter of facts in the public

> record. Read former congressman Haley's book

> Politics In Healing and prepare yourself for a major

> re-assessment of the world in which you live.

> ----------------------------------

> Message: 1

> Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 16:44:31 -0000

> From: " karlamonyc " <karlamo@m...>

> Subject: Re: Complementary and alternative med info

>

> , I am open minded about alternatives and

> supplement, but I

> don't buy into the conspiracy theory about standard

> treatments. The

> best book I've ever read about cancer and natural

> medicine is by

> Boik. Have you read that?

>

> About the conspiracy therory, a friend and advocate

> said it

> well: " Not only politicians, regulators, scientists,

> doctors and

> pharmaceutical officers get cancer, but their parents,

> siblings

> children, grandchildren and best friends - so we have

> an interested

> majority in any group you can think of - and we have

> to work the

> system by speaking up, being active and letting them

> know that we

> care and that we expect them to do their best to deal

> with this

> devastating plague in our society. " - Leonard R.

>

> -Karl

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/9/04 6:34:11 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> If I weren't afraid they'd come to get me, I'd swear that its all a big

> conspiracy to control those of us they can with the meds and kill those of us

> they can't control with the same medications.

> You are not paranoid if they really are out to get you!

>

Terry: My husband told me this when I was on Paxil in 97. I remember him

screaming at me, " What the hell are you doing taking these goddamn Nazi mind

control drugs? Don't you know these drugs are about controlling society? " I

thought HE was insane. But several weeks later, when I could do nothing but sit

i

n a chair and stare off into space, he asked me again, " Why are you taking

these zombie pills? " He then went on to tell him the stories his family had

told him about the concentration camps and the mind control experiments. It was

what started my research into these drugs, which ultimately became a book

titled Blind Reason. The only conclusion I could draw after months and months

of

research is that these drugs are NOT about curing anything; they are about

controlling the masses, turning some of us into programmable " whatevers " --

little psychic time bombs running loose in society. When you compare how these

drugs work on the mind with LSD, which the CIA wanted to use as a mind control

agent, you start to see that these theories are not so outlandish. There should

be no legal drug that produces the kind of mental chaos that Paxil (or any of

them) does. You're not paranoid. It's the only conclusion an intelligent

person could draw after seeing what these drugs are capable of.

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

[Guest guest]

I am new to the group and would like to hear more about the links between

Nazi mind control drugs and what you experienced. Some of what I'd read

about the pharmaceutical companies that are still in existence today and

their Nazi past especially I.G. Farben/Bayer substantiates the points you

made so well. Also, tell us more about your book. Where can we get it, and

is it available anywhere on tape?

Re: Conspiracy theory

> In a message dated 9/9/04 6:34:11 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

>

> > If I weren't afraid they'd come to get me, I'd swear that its all a big

> > conspiracy to control those of us they can with the meds and kill those

of us

> > they can't control with the same medications.

> > You are not paranoid if they really are out to get you!

> >

>

> Terry: My husband told me this when I was on Paxil in 97. I remember him

> screaming at me, " What the hell are you doing taking these goddamn Nazi

mind

> control drugs? Don't you know these drugs are about controlling society? "

I

> thought HE was insane. But several weeks later, when I could do nothing

but sit i

> n a chair and stare off into space, he asked me again, " Why are you taking

> these zombie pills? " He then went on to tell him the stories his family

had

> told him about the concentration camps and the mind control experiments.

It was

> what started my research into these drugs, which ultimately became a book

> titled Blind Reason. The only conclusion I could draw after months and

months of

> research is that these drugs are NOT about curing anything; they are about

> controlling the masses, turning some of us into programmable

" whatevers " --

> little psychic time bombs running loose in society. When you compare how

these

> drugs work on the mind with LSD, which the CIA wanted to use as a mind

control

> agent, you start to see that these theories are not so outlandish. There

should

> be no legal drug that produces the kind of mental chaos that Paxil (or any

of

> them) does. You're not paranoid. It's the only conclusion an intelligent

> person could draw after seeing what these drugs are capable of.

>

> " Blind Reason "

> a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

> Unsafe At Any Dose

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting!

From: paulpjc@... <paulpjc@...>

Subject: conspiracy theory

Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 6:22 AM

 

For Distribution:

Conspiracy Theory: Population Control and Microwave Radiation

by Magda Havas, June 2010.

I've never paid much attention to conspiracy theories, but then I

began to think about it and started asking myself " what if " questions.

What if some elite group believes that we were doing irreversible

damage to the planet and that earth can not support a growing human

population. Indeed this is what many people think so this " what if "

doesn't have to be restricted to the thinking of " some elite group " .

What if this elite group thinks that a more sustainable population

would be perhaps 1 billion people instead of 6.7 billion and counting.

Some think that earth can't support sustainably more than 500 million

people, but the size is irrelevant for this discussion.

What if this elite group doesn't want to kill people outright (not

acceptable to those who would die or to those who may be next and to

those who value human life) and so they have to devise a way to reduce

the population without letting anyone know that this is their master

plan.

What would they do?

Well . . . this elite group would do something to interfere with

reproduction, something that might affect sperm or egg cells.

Interesting that we are experiencing a growing concern about

infertility in western countries. Couples wanting to get pregnant are

having difficulty. There are a number of reasons for this infertility

crisis and one possible contributor is the cell phone.

We have no idea what cell phones are doing to human egg cells but we

have evidence that cell phones can interfere with sperm viability,

motility, and morphology. The longer a man uses a cell phone the

greater the damage to sperm. Keeping the cell phone on the hip is a

no no if you want to protect your sperm cells.

Wireless laptop computers and now the ipad emit microwave radiation,

just like cell phones. These computers are held closer to genitals

and are used for longer periods than cell phones, so if the cell phone

doesn't do the damage required, the wireless laptop computer will.

To ensure that this damage is done, it is important to expose children

to the radiation and one way to do this is to get WiFi into schools.

This is happening currently with more and more schools wanting to

install WiFi for all grade levels and in all classes, even those class

rooms that don't have computers. And kids need to be exposed at home

as well and so the wireless router was invented.

But what would this elite group do with women who are already pregnant?

Well, first of all it would be important NOT to let these women know

that computers, wireless or otherwise, may affect the fetus. Women who

worked on computers decades ago had a higher miscarriage rate than

those who did not use computers so this concept that wireless

computers could contribute to miscarriage is not entirely

implausible. Doctors warm pregnant women to not drink alcohol, to not

take certain types of medication, and to refrain from smoking yet

they don't warn women to avoid exposure to microwave radiation

generated by cell phones, by cordless phones or by wireless computers.

But what would this elite group do about children who are already born?

Well, the DECT baby monitor is a wireless monitor that also generates

microwave radiation. It is kept close to the crib so the mother can

listen to the baby if s/he wakes up. Some monitors come with a clip

that attaches to the mother's waist and thus exposes egg cells to

microwave radiation to minimize the risk of additional pregnancies.

This device exposes both the mother and the baby to microwave

radiation. Indeed it exposes everyone in the home to microwave

radiation. Survival of the fittest states that the weak will not

survive. By weeding out sensitive individuals who are unable to

tolerate microwave radiation perhaps a new population will emerge and

they will be microwave-tolerant.

But what would this elite group do about those people who don't use

cell phones or wireless computers?

Exposure of those who do not use wireless technology is achieved by

blanketing entire communities and places that are frequented by large

populations with microwaves from City-wide WiFi, WiFi in cafes,

hotels, airports, and now on airplanes. And if the WiFi doesn't expose

them to enough microwave radiation, cell phone antennas can be placed

near schools, on office and apartment buildings, in church steeples,

and some can be disguised as trees. And then there is the really

powerful Wi-Max antennas with a radius of 50 km. With Wi-Max entire

cities can be blanketed with mcirowave radiation.

Those who live near a military base, an airport, a weather station, or

a marine shipping route can be exposed to radar that also emits

microwave radiation.

And finally there are the repeaters from satelites and broadcast

antennas that can increase exposure to radio frequency radiation, a

cousin to microwave radiation.

Closer to home smart meters provide one way to increase microwave

exposure in every home. By the end of 2010 every home in Ontario will

have a smart meter. Already people who have smart meters attached to

their homes are complaining of ill health.

With all this microwave exposure a growing population is becoming

electrically hypersensitive. According to one study, by 2017 50% of

the population will complain of symptoms of electrosensitivity that

include sleeping problems, fatigue, headaches, joint pain, dizziness,

nausea, anxiety, depression, difficulty with concentration and short-

term memory, skin problems and well as eye and ear problems like

tinnitus. Perhaps you already experience some of these symptoms. And

these are the lucky ones. The unlucky ones get cancer and die.

So is this a conspiracy by some elite group trying to reduce the

global population or is it just greed and stupidity that inadvertently

have the same effect?