Re: avoid iceberg LETTUCE [Parasites and what else?]

[Guest guest]

Leonard,

So sorry about your brother. I, too, have lost mine. I still look

heavenward and fuss at him for leaving me.

About your post about lettuce and parasites. I have recently become

even more aware of the dangers lurking in our fresh produce, and have

heard and read from some of the experts that we should purchase

organic, if possible. Of course, sometimes the organic ones have

more parasites than the others -- which have pesticides in addition.

There have been a number of recommendations about how to wash our

produce. The one I've adopted is washing vegetables and soaking them

in a hydrogen peroxide/water solution for 30 minutes. I believe the

lettuce is actually staying fresh much longer (stored in a large

Tupperware caketaker). Another one was for soaking in vinegar and

water; still another (Dr. Sherry ) said she uses clorox in a

solution -- though I haven't read her " formula " yet.

I think the bottom line is that there is a high likelihood that the

majority of our illness comes from invasion of organisms into the

body (which then causes a reaction that creates inflammation), either

by consuming them on our food and/or our immune system being disabled

and unable to protect us against these organisms. Ann Louise

Gittleman ( " Guess What Came to Dinner " ) suggested we should never eat

salads out. Maybe a very good idea.

Also, there was a time in our country when people routinely " wormed "

their children and their animals. That was also a time when the

foods we ate were much healthier for us, without all the additives,

trans fats, and other detrimental things in them and on them. I've

decided to routinely and methodically use the various type detoxing

formulas (cleanses) -- with the help of a trained professional -- to

help decrease the toxic load of various parasites that could have

taken up residence (very likely have) in my body while I have been

battling illness over the last 10 years.

I'm doing well now, after five years on a treatment that slowly

decreases a stealth organism that has been shown to cause rheumatic

illness. My logic is: If that diagnosed organism is present, what

other thing(s) might also be present that we may not have a test for?

Researching every day for 10 years has been challenging, and it has

also been one of the best educations I've ever had. Good health, I

believe is simple -- it just IS NOT EASY to do what we know to do.

And it definitely is not a " Prescription Medicine Deficiency. "

bg

> In a message dated 04/17/2002 6:16:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> bobbraun@f... writes:

> > my younger brother...consumed

> > huge quantities of lettuce, and he died of pancreatic

> > cancer....I wondered if there might be a connection

> Iceberg lettuce tends to contain parasites; I don't know if theses

parasites

> are specifically related to cancer, but I avoid all iceberg

lettuce. I highly

> doubt there's any connection between romaine or leaf lettuce and

cancer. On

> the contrary, they're extremely healthy foods. Incidentally, 1 of

the largest

> components of Gerson therapy is green juices of vegetables

including romaine

> lettuce (which amounts to consuming huge amounts of it), and Gerson

therapy's

> quite effective w/early-stage pancreatic cancer.

> Leonard

[Guest guest]

Many cultures even today that are located in warm climates without

refrigeration etc. use copious amounts of specific herbs in their daily diets

to keep the parasites at bay....... in the Middle East a mixture of thyme,

sesame and salt is used, In Mexico an herb called epasote is used (English

name = wormseed).

Bleach like clorox is a disinfectant. Most health departments recommend 1

T per gallon of water as a final rinse for dishwashing, etc.

When you soak veggies for 30 minutes, don't most of the vitamins and some

minerals get leached out into your soaking water? Do you use that soaking

water in cooking to retain that nutritional benefit?

MJH

In a message dated 4/17/02 3:06:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bsgttx@...

writes:

> Leonard,

>

> So sorry about your brother. I, too, have lost mine. I still look

> heavenward and fuss at him for leaving me.

>

> About your post about lettuce and parasites. I have recently become

> even more aware of the dangers lurking in our fresh produce, and have

> heard and read from some of the experts that we should purchase

> organic, if possible. Of course, sometimes the organic ones have

> more parasites than the others -- which have pesticides in addition.

>

> There have been a number of recommendations about how to wash our

> produce. The one I've adopted is washing vegetables and soaking them

> in a hydrogen peroxide/water solution for 30 minutes. I believe the

> lettuce is actually staying fresh much longer (stored in a large

> Tupperware caketaker). Another one was for soaking in vinegar and

> water; still another (Dr. Sherry ) said she uses clorox in a

> solution -- though I haven't read her " formula " yet.

>

> I think the bottom line is that there is a high likelihood that the

> majority of our illness comes from invasion of organisms into the

> body (which then causes a reaction that creates inflammation), either

> by consuming them on our food and/or our immune system being disabled

> and unable to protect us against these organisms. Ann Louise

> Gittleman ( " Guess What Came to Dinner " ) suggested we should never eat

> salads out. Maybe a very good idea.

>

> Also, there was a time in our country when people routinely " wormed "

> their children and their animals. That was also a time when the

> foods we ate were much healthier for us, without all the additives,

> trans fats, and other detrimental things in them and on them. I've

> decided to routinely and methodically use the various type detoxing

> formulas (cleanses) -- with the help of a trained professional -- to

> help decrease the toxic load of various parasites that could have

> taken up residence (very likely have) in my body while I have been

> battling illness over the last 10 years.

>

> I'm doing well now, after five years on a treatment that slowly

> decreases a stealth organism that has been shown to cause rheumatic

> illness. My logic is: If that diagnosed organism is present, what

> other thing(s) might also be present that we may not have a test for?

> Researching every day for 10 years has been challenging, and it has

> also been one of the best educations I've ever had. Good health, I

> believe is simple -- it just IS NOT EASY to do what we know to do.

> And it definitely is not a " Prescription Medicine Deficiency. "

>

> bg

>

[Guest guest]

MJH,

I don't believe I'm interested in using that dirty, peroxide wash

water (or bleach water) in anything. Since these instructions came

from really knowledgeable medical people (integrative medicine types,

at that), I wouldn't think " leaching " nutrients would be a problem

with this. Sure bests eating parasites. Come to think of it, of the

two, I believe I'll opt for soaking.

bg

> Many cultures even today that are located in warm climates

without

> refrigeration etc. use copious amounts of specific herbs in their

daily diets

> to keep the parasites at bay....... in the Middle East a mixture of

thyme,

> sesame and salt is used, In Mexico an herb called epasote is used

(English

> name = wormseed).

>

> Bleach like clorox is a disinfectant. Most health departments

recommend 1

> T per gallon of water as a final rinse for dishwashing, etc.

>

> When you soak veggies for 30 minutes, don't most of the vitamins

and some

> minerals get leached out into your soaking water? Do you use that

soaking

> water in cooking to retain that nutritional benefit?

>

> MJH

>

>

>

> In a message dated 4/17/02 3:06:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

bsgttx@t...

> writes:

>

>

> > Leonard,

> >

> > So sorry about your brother. I, too, have lost mine. I still

look

> > heavenward and fuss at him for leaving me.

> >

> > About your post about lettuce and parasites. I have recently

become

> > even more aware of the dangers lurking in our fresh produce, and

have

> > heard and read from some of the experts that we should purchase

> > organic, if possible. Of course, sometimes the organic ones have

> > more parasites than the others -- which have pesticides in

addition.

> >

> > There have been a number of recommendations about how to wash our

> > produce. The one I've adopted is washing vegetables and soaking

them

> > in a hydrogen peroxide/water solution for 30 minutes. I believe

the

> > lettuce is actually staying fresh much longer (stored in a large

> > Tupperware caketaker). Another one was for soaking in vinegar

and

> > water; still another (Dr. Sherry ) said she uses clorox in

a

> > solution -- though I haven't read her " formula " yet.

> >

> > I think the bottom line is that there is a high likelihood that

the

> > majority of our illness comes from invasion of organisms into the

> > body (which then causes a reaction that creates inflammation),

either

> > by consuming them on our food and/or our immune system being

disabled

> > and unable to protect us against these organisms. Ann Louise

> > Gittleman ( " Guess What Came to Dinner " ) suggested we should never

eat

> > salads out. Maybe a very good idea.

> >

> > Also, there was a time in our country when people

routinely " wormed "

> > their children and their animals. That was also a time when the

> > foods we ate were much healthier for us, without all the

additives,

> > trans fats, and other detrimental things in them and on them.

I've

> > decided to routinely and methodically use the various type

detoxing

> > formulas (cleanses) -- with the help of a trained professional --

to

> > help decrease the toxic load of various parasites that could have

> > taken up residence (very likely have) in my body while I have

been

> > battling illness over the last 10 years.

> >

> > I'm doing well now, after five years on a treatment that slowly

> > decreases a stealth organism that has been shown to cause

rheumatic

> > illness. My logic is: If that diagnosed organism is present,

what

> > other thing(s) might also be present that we may not have a test

for?

> > Researching every day for 10 years has been challenging, and it

has

> > also been one of the best educations I've ever had. Good health,

I

> > believe is simple -- it just IS NOT EASY to do what we know to

do.

> > And it definitely is not a " Prescription Medicine Deficiency. "

> >

> > bg

> >

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