Guest guest Posted November 4, 2002 Report Share Posted November 4, 2002 , I don't think for a second your feet problem is small compared to anyone else's problems! Your feet are what keep you going, they are very important! I know, my feet are so stiff I could scream sometimes! You know, when I was reading your letter, I thought of something I just read. In the book, "Rhuematoid Arthritis- The Infection Connection" (I know you don't have Ra, but it has many health issues all related to mycoplasma infections) Anyway, There is some info in it, I think the 5th chapter that talks about how why alot of people have most of the pain travel from their hands, and to the gravitional area like the kness, and the feet.(happened to me, used to be mainly in my hands, now more so, in my damn feet!) It explains in there, that the very smart infections will migrate where it is easiest to remain, (esp. when you are getting better), down into lower tisses, deep within them- where it's hard for your body to attack them off. Anyway, I don't know if it's infection still from implants, could be, I'm not saying that for sure, but if it is, or even just toxins, they say in the book, massaging your feet once or twice a day, and also elevating them at a chest level after aerobic workouts, will help to bring the infection out of the deep tissues ,and into suseptable areas (like out in the open) where your body can then defend itself, and try to attack and destroy the infections. So, even if it's just toxins, maybe it will do the same. Kinda break it up, and put it in the "open" for your body to break it down. Just a thought, but I had to tell you. Try the massage thing, and see if it works. I have noticed elevating them after working out, elavating them for about 20 min. has helped alot in the last week. I just read it, and it's weird you are talking about this. Hope, it helps! I know how you feel though about your feet! It is so aggravating! Let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2002 Report Share Posted November 5, 2002 --it appears that you are going to have to be the detective if there is any hope of avoiding surgery--and what is surgery supposed to do? If someone can't tell you what is causing it, how can they fix it? As far as electric shock (which only works some of the time) I think this is still considered experimental and that's how the insurance gets out of paying for it. I agree that "whatever" is probably causing inflammation, but why?--obviously the cause still exists; steroids offer cortisol to cope with or eliminate pain, and they suppress inflammation, but they don't get rid of the problem. Your body does that and apparently it can't do it in this circumstance. Inflammation is a sign that the body is attempting to heal the problem. . . It seems that the term "planter faciitis" is sort of a catch-all. . .is there a point of pain or is it general? I think I'd be investigating "faciitis"--it just happened to settle in the plantar area of the foot, where it gets constant activity from carrying your body around all day. Didn't you at one time just previous to this have pain in the Achilles tendon? Could that have been "this" traveling to the plantar area of the foot? I've only read of facciitis in terms of anaerobic bacteria--'s explanation rather fits in with that. There is such a thing as sub-clinical infection. . .it usually settles in joints, but not always. It's what you had around your implants, wasn't it? Many women have had sub-clinical infections around their implant--and while we can remove most of the bacteria, we just hope the bacteria that's already in the bloodstream leaves the body. Also, we don't know what all the H. Pylori bacteria affects--it hasn't been all that long that we learned it creates most ulcers. Bacteria is a possibility. Also, various kinds of running, for women especially, affects their hips which in turn affects the feet--this particularly true of women who have already experienced childbirth. A widening of the hips changes the way in which the bones take the weight. This is a possibility. When you were ill, your immune system was overtaxed, which allowed other things to happen--it chose the most serious one to deal with at the time--so yes, it's very likely that this problem showed up at that time, but who knows if it'd directly related--I sense is that it is only secondarily related. If the pain is general, probably the first thing I would do is visit the dentist and make sure my bite is adjusted correctly--a maladjustment here can effect the spine and therefore the nerves to the feet--my dentist told me about this probably 30 years ago and we never hear of it:h e always checks my bite and spends a great deal of time adjusting it, if necessary--which it was after the ordeal with silicone illness. Bite is a possibility. Meanwhile, while you are ruling things out, it might be well to do other things besides running. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2002 Report Share Posted November 5, 2002 Thanks . I don't know, I been getting my feet rubbed everynight for the entire time I have been married. My hubby is great about it. I just don't know. I try to do everything with regard to my feet, this problem is haunting me. THe thing is allot of people don't get it, they think, oh her feet hurt, they have no idea, unless they have had this bad of pain, how disabling it can be. I mean shit, there are times when it has been so bad I had to crawl around my own house. That is pretty bad, ya know. Anyhow, I don't know what to do, at this point it is bad enough that it is making any kind of long standing or walking hard. We are supposed to go to Boise this weekend for a concert, I have been so stoked to go to this, but with the pain it is going to be hard. I even have a temp disability plackard my podiatrist gave me, when I was limping around so bad. I had to give up everything but swimming now. Anyhow I don't know what to do at this point, it makes life so hard to have pain in your feet all the time. I mean lets face it you have to stand and walk to do anything, when it is this painful, nothing is easy. Thanks for your info, I wish I could figure out what else to do, I do lots of the things you mention, so far still in pain. ----- Original Message ----- From: JULIEJJPALANCA@... Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 5:30 PM Subject: Re: Any ideas? Tips? Advice? , I don't think for a second your feet problem is small compared to anyone else's problems! Your feet are what keep you going, they are very important! I know, my feet are so stiff I could scream sometimes! You know, when I was reading your letter, I thought of something I just read. In the book, "Rhuematoid Arthritis- The Infection Connection" (I know you don't have Ra, but it has many health issues all related to mycoplasma infections) Anyway, There is some info in it, I think the 5th chapter that talks about how why alot of people have most of the pain travel from their hands, and to the gravitional area like the kness, and the feet.(happened to me, used to be mainly in my hands, now more so, in my damn feet!) It explains in there, that the very smart infections will migrate where it is easiest to remain, (esp. when you are getting better), down into lower tisses, deep within them- where it's hard for your body to attack them off. Anyway, I don't know if it's infection still from implants, could be, I'm not saying that for sure, but if it is, or even just toxins, they say in the book, massaging your feet once or twice a day, and also elevating them at a chest level after aerobic workouts, will help to bring the infection out of the deep tissues ,and into suseptable areas (like out in the open) where your body can then defend itself, and try to attack and destroy the infections. So, even if it's just toxins, maybe it will do the same. Kinda break it up, and put it in the "open" for your body to break it down. Just a thought, but I had to tell you. Try the massage thing, and see if it works. I have noticed elevating them after working out, elavating them for about 20 min. has helped alot in the last week. I just read it, and it's weird you are talking about this. Hope, it helps! I know how you feel though about your feet! It is so aggravating! Let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2002 Report Share Posted November 5, 2002 I meant to mention that it has got to be some kind of inflammation because the steroid shots do get rid of it, the problem this time is the relief only lasted less than 8 weeks, last time it lasted almost 6 months, I was hoping this time the shots would make it go away for good, but since they didn't I don't know what else to do, I don't think I want to do shots again at this point, my only other options are surgery or electric shock wave therapy which is expensive and most ins companies won't pay for it. Sucks ----- Original Message ----- From: JULIEJJPALANCA@... Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 5:30 PM Subject: Re: Any ideas? Tips? Advice? , I don't think for a second your feet problem is small compared to anyone else's problems! Your feet are what keep you going, they are very important! I know, my feet are so stiff I could scream sometimes! You know, when I was reading your letter, I thought of something I just read. In the book, "Rhuematoid Arthritis- The Infection Connection" (I know you don't have Ra, but it has many health issues all related to mycoplasma infections) Anyway, There is some info in it, I think the 5th chapter that talks about how why alot of people have most of the pain travel from their hands, and to the gravitional area like the kness, and the feet.(happened to me, used to be mainly in my hands, now more so, in my damn feet!) It explains in there, that the very smart infections will migrate where it is easiest to remain, (esp. when you are getting better), down into lower tisses, deep within them- where it's hard for your body to attack them off. Anyway, I don't know if it's infection still from implants, could be, I'm not saying that for sure, but if it is, or even just toxins, they say in the book, massaging your feet once or twice a day, and also elevating them at a chest level after aerobic workouts, will help to bring the infection out of the deep tissues ,and into suseptable areas (like out in the open) where your body can then defend itself, and try to attack and destroy the infections. So, even if it's just toxins, maybe it will do the same. Kinda break it up, and put it in the "open" for your body to break it down. Just a thought, but I had to tell you. Try the massage thing, and see if it works. I have noticed elevating them after working out, elavating them for about 20 min. has helped alot in the last week. I just read it, and it's weird you are talking about this. Hope, it helps! I know how you feel though about your feet! It is so aggravating! Let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2002 Report Share Posted November 5, 2002 Bonnie Thanks for the feeback. First of all let me clear a few things up. I never run anymore at all. gave it up. Second, yes this pain is specific to a certain area, where everything basically attaches in the heel, the plantar fascia as it is called, the tendon that runs across the foot on the bottom, along the arch, and connects at the heel bone, on top of that is the achilled tendon, my pain is there where everything meets and is very sharp and painful to the touch, I like to describe it as stone bruising, if that helps you to understand it. It is very painful, it is lessened when sitting which is why I am blessed with my desk job. Years ago I wanted so badly to be an RN, well glad I never bothered since there is no way I could work on my feet all day. Now here is the thing, the Mephisto and Birkenstock shoes, take allot of the pressure out of the sore areas, so that if I wear them I feel better, problem here in Idaho is it is in single digits now and even with socks it is too freaking cold. Also I have been told that if you are testing to see if you have plantar fasicits(inflammation of the plantar fascia) that this will go away with the steroids and this will tell you def that the pain is coming from the fascia and not back or other areas being refered. Actually the ESWT treatments are very succesful, if you can get ins to pay, the treatments cure %90 and I know many who have had it done and they are totally cured. The problems is my ins is a crappy one and won't do it. So I am fighting them right now. Meanwhile I just have to keep pushing on, but cautiously, overdoing anything at this point would be a major mistake. Also I must add that I have done everything I can think of to cleanse my body lately, I mean other than a fast, I just don't know if I can do a fast, my metablosim is so speedy it always needs fuel and food is it. I don't see how people can go without food for days unless they can lay around, I know I get faint and my blood sugar gets too low if I don't eat. I appreciate ideas please keep them coming ladies. I am so tired of pain, it has been over 3 years since my pain started. gotta get to work ----- Original Message ----- From: Bos@... Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 9:12 AM Subject: Re: Any ideas? Tips? Advice? --it appears that you are going to have to be the detective if there is any hope of avoiding surgery--and what is surgery supposed to do? If someone can't tell you what is causing it, how can they fix it? As far as electric shock (which only works some of the time) I think this is still considered experimental and that's how the insurance gets out of paying for it. I agree that "whatever" is probably causing inflammation, but why?--obviously the cause still exists; steroids offer cortisol to cope with or eliminate pain, and they suppress inflammation, but they don't get rid of the problem. Your body does that and apparently it can't do it in this circumstance. Inflammation is a sign that the body is attempting to heal the problem. . . It seems that the term "planter faciitis" is sort of a catch-all. . .is there a point of pain or is it general? I think I'd be investigating "faciitis"--it just happened to settle in the plantar area of the foot, where it gets constant activity from carrying your body around all day. Didn't you at one time just previous to this have pain in the Achilles tendon? Could that have been "this" traveling to the plantar area of the foot? I've only read of facciitis in terms of anaerobic bacteria--'s explanation rather fits in with that. There is such a thing as sub-clinical infection. . .it usually settles in joints, but not always. It's what you had around your implants, wasn't it? Many women have had sub-clinical infections around their implant--and while we can remove most of the bacteria, we just hope the bacteria that's already in the bloodstream leaves the body. Also, we don't know what all the H. Pylori bacteria affects--it hasn't been all that long that we learned it creates most ulcers. Bacteria is a possibility. Also, various kinds of running, for women especially, affects their hips which in turn affects the feet--this particularly true of women who have already experienced childbirth. A widening of the hips changes the way in which the bones take the weight. This is a possibility. When you were ill, your immune system was overtaxed, which allowed other things to happen--it chose the most serious one to deal with at the time--so yes, it's very likely that this problem showed up at that time, but who knows if it'd directly related--I sense is that it is only secondarily related. If the pain is general, probably the first thing I would do is visit the dentist and make sure my bite is adjusted correctly--a maladjustment here can effect the spine and therefore the nerves to the feet--my dentist told me about this probably 30 years ago and we never hear of it:h e always checks my bite and spends a great deal of time adjusting it, if necessary--which it was after the ordeal with silicone illness. Bite is a possibility. Meanwhile, while you are ruling things out, it might be well to do other things besides running. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2002 Report Share Posted November 6, 2002 Ladies, Just wanted to share with you what has helped me with inflammation. I have suffered a lot with this problem, looking like I'm swollen everywhere. Also, I'm the lady who went through Hydrocephalus and all kinds of associated neurological illnesses. I never knew some time ago that Advil was an anti-inflammatory but it was the only drug to help me with most of my symptoms. Little did I know that inflammation was a major problem for my health, causing other illnesses to develop. Well, a friend of mine got me started in drinking a cup of aloevera juice every day. I drink it in a shake, mixed with all kinds of fruits, yogurt and almonds. I can't tell you the difference it has made. First of all, the swollen look has gone away and I am feeling so much better. I've decided that I can't live without this drink. It's fantastic. I buy a gallon from Wal-Mart for around $8 something. I feel this drink is helping me to heal inside. It's a detoxifier. I had all these bumps on my face, now they are gone. It helps with everything that can heal inside of you. Read up on it on the internet. If anyone tries it, let us know how it's working for you. Personally, I can't live without it. I'm now trying to figure out how to bring my blender with me when we go on vacation...that's is how I feel about this drink. I'm even losing weight because of it. It's just wonderful!!! Ladies, try it and - cheers. Leanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2002 Report Share Posted November 6, 2002 Where do you get the aloe vera juice? And how do you mix it? I'd like to know too! I also have terrible foot pain, and have bumps on my face at times, too. e ----- Original Message ----- From: leanda Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 5:36 AM Subject: Re: Any ideas? Tips? Advice? Ladies, Just wanted to share with you what has helped me with inflammation. I have suffered a lot with this problem, looking like I'm swollen everywhere. Also, I'm the lady who went through Hydrocephalus and all kinds of associated neurological illnesses. I never knew some time ago that Advil was an anti-inflammatory but it was the only drug to help me with most of my symptoms. Little did I know that inflammation was a major problem for my health, causing other illnesses to develop. Well, a friend of mine got me started in drinking a cup of aloevera juice every day. I drink it in a shake, mixed with all kinds of fruits, yogurt and almonds. I can't tell you the difference it has made. First of all, the swollen look has gone away and I am feeling so much better. I've decided that I can't live without this drink. It's fantastic. I buy a gallon from Wal-Mart for around $8 something. I feel this drink is helping me to heal inside. It's a detoxifier. I had all these bumps on my face, now they are gone. It helps with everything that can heal inside of you. Read up on it on the internet. If anyone tries it, let us know how it's working for you. Personally, I can't live without it. I'm now trying to figure out how to bring my blender with me when we go on vacation...that's is how I feel about this drink. I'm even losing weight because of it. It's just wonderful!!! Ladies, try it and - cheers. Leanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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