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Sharyn Cerniglia wrote:

According to the link below, it's:

Nerve Pain Tincture

1 teaspoon each tinctures of skullcap leaves, freshlicorice root

½ dropperful each tinctures of

vervain leaves

Combine ingredients. Take 1 dropperful every

half hour, as needed during an emergency. To relieve chronic pain, take

2 to 4 dropperfuls a day.

Doesn't

mention witch hazel or chamomile. Are they interchangeable with oats

and licorice root? I'm asking because I'd like to give this tincture

remedy to my son who has the back injury. I can probably buy the

individual tinctures and make up the remedy, but would like a

definitive recipe.

Thanks!

Sharyn

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Thanks Sharyn,

This is what happens when you have way too much going on at one time. I

was in the middle of reading an herb book, writing down another formula

and typing out this email. LOL Guess I got the wires a little crossed

here. Sorry about that. Nope the chamomile and witch hazel are not

substitutes for oats and licorice root.

:-[

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Sharyn Cerniglia wrote:

> Thanks for the clarification, Don!

>

> BTW, I discovered gotu kola from this list and it's been helping him a

> lot. But he's taking that in capsules, so I thought a combination

> tincture remedy might help a little faster. Once I get him on this

> tincture, should he stop taking the gotu kola capsules? Also, any

> idea how long it will take to show some improvement from regular

> ingestion of the tincture? This is a long-standing injury, which

> homeopathy hasn't been able to help, unfortunately.

>

> Sharyn

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Hi Sharyn,

That is a really tough one to call. Everyone is different. Regular

ingestion could take as little as one week to maybe a month, or more,

before anything noticeable happens, especially with an injury of long

standing. Is he open to cleansing? I am really sorry to hear that

homeopathy isn't helping him any. You might also try niacinamide. There

is some research that is showing its abilities to help with joint

problems. I know this is his back but there are still joints there. The

suggested dosage is two 500 mg. capsules three times per day. It is

anti-inflammatory and helps to heal cartilige. Something else to

consider that might just help him.

I see no reason why he can't continue with the Gotu Kola. These are some

thoughts anyway Sharyn. You have been doing EFT right? I seem to recall

you mentioning that.

Peace be with you Sharyn.

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and wakes in man. "

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Sharyn,

if this doesn't work... try tumeric....... like maybe start with 4-6 capsules a day and as it lessens reduce the dose down to 2-4, etc...

SuziSharyn Cerniglia <sharyn.cerniglia@...> wrote:

Okay....I got all the ingredients today except the vervain tincture. Can I make it without the vervain and get him started on it while I'm awaiting the vervain I ordered to come in? Or should I wait until the vervain comes in?

No, he's not open to cleansing. He's 24yo. He just wants to take a pill and make it go away. I'm lucky he's taking the gotu kola and has agreed to take the tincture. I don't think this is a joint problem as much as it's a nerve problem. The original injury was to the back (while training for the Rangers in the military he fell down a cliff with a 100# rucksack on his back), but for the past 6-9 months besides the pain in his lower back he hasn't had any feeling in his right leg except for pins and needles. I think it's a nerve manifestation. I've given him Arnica 200M a couple of times, even Arnica 1M once, with no improvement.

I haven't been doing the EFT on him. I think with the tinctures and chiropractor he's pretty close to the line of what he'll tolerate at his age.<G> If I give him such a high dosage of niacinamide won't that throw his B-complex out of balance?

Sharyn

From: Don Quai [mailto:mysticalherbalist@...] That is a really tough one to call. Everyone is different. Regular ingestion could take as little as one week to maybe a month, or more, before anything noticeable happens, especially with an injury of long standing. Is he open to cleansing? I am really sorry to hear that homeopathy isn't helping him any. You might also try niacinamide. There is some research that is showing its abilities to help with joint problems. I know this is his back but there are still joints there. The suggested dosage is two 500 mg. capsules three times per day. It is anti-inflammatory and helps to heal cartilige. Something else to consider that might just help him.I see no reason why he can't continue with the Gotu Kola. These are some thoughts anyway Sharyn. You have been doing EFT right? I seem to recall you mentioning that.

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I usually take tumeric in my super tonic... but if I have muscle pain or tight muscles or any inflamation.. i do tumeric in capsules. (the OO) seems to work faster.. or maybe it is just that I'm taking so much more..lol

SuziSharyn Cerniglia <sharyn.cerniglia@...> wrote:

I will. I've got a bottle of Turmeric on hand, will take it to him tomorrow at work. He can take that and the gotu kola together until I get the vervain. (I am SO fortunate to have access to these tinctures already made and not have to wait and gather the materials to make my own. Thank you, Universe!)

Sharyn

From: Suzanne [mailto:suziesgoats@...]

Keep us posted too!

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Sharyn Cerniglia wrote:

> Okay....I got all the ingredients today except the vervain tincture.

> Can I make it without the vervain and get him started on it while I'm

> awaiting the vervain I ordered to come in? Or should I wait until the

> vervain comes in?

>

> No, he's not open to cleansing. He's 24yo. He just wants to take a

> pill and make it go away. I'm lucky he's taking the gotu kola and has

> agreed to take the tincture. I don't think this is a joint problem as

> much as it's a nerve problem. The original injury was to the back

> (while training for the Rangers in the military he fell down a cliff

> with a 100# rucksack on his back), but for the past 6-9 months besides

> the pain in his lower back he hasn't had any feeling in his right leg

> except for pins and needles. I think it's a nerve manifestation.

> I've given him Arnica 200M a couple of times, even Arnica 1M once,

> with no improvement.

>

> I haven't been doing the EFT on him. I think with the tinctures and

> chiropractor he's pretty close to the line of what he'll tolerate at

> his age.<G> If I give him such a high dosage of niacinamide won't

> that throw his B-complex out of balance?

>

> Sharyn

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> **

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Get him started on it without the vervain. Just make sure you add that

in when it arrives. Hmmm... well pain is pain whether it is a joint

problem or a nerve problem. Falling down a cliff with a 100# rucksack is

bound to screw up a few vertebrae in the process along with pinching

nerves or worse. I guess he is lucky he didn't break anything.

Sure would be nice if it were that easy. Just take a pill and make it go

away for good. Actually there is a pill for that and I do believe it is

called cyanide capsules. Works really well for relieving anything to do

with earthly life. LOL Just joking Sharyn. I have the same problem over

here with my wifes children. Too much dependent on allopathy and flat

out refuse to believe that their diet is what is making them ill and

that the meds are won't help them in the least. We all have to learn in

our own time I guess. This is why such things continue to persist in

society. They know that the next generation coming up can be influenced

and brain washed into believing what they want them to believe, at least

for the most part. Oh, don't even lets go there. I will only get wound

up and then you will have a 30 page email to read.

Got any DMSO? Is he taking any MSM? Vitamin C? The niacinamide is going

to be used for therapeutic purposes as in orthomolecular. If it should,

and I doubt that it will, create a problem then all he needs to do is up

his B-complex. But I would get him taking lots of MSM (9gms), Vit C

(10gm) and the niacinamide. The turmeric will help also. How is his diet

or should I even ask? Is he getting enough lecithin and omegas? They are

quite essential for helping to rebuild and repair nerve tissues. The

inner bark of Black Walnut is very good for nerves and nerve sheaths

providing organic magnesium sulphate.

However, his best option, and probably the one he most likely will balk

at is a total body cleanse. I don't know if this is gonna help you much

Sharyn as it really is up to him whether he wants to fix the problem or

just continue with band-aids. I know for me at that age band-aids worked

just fine but then I didn't fall off a cliff.

Peace be with you Sharyn.

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Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

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I'll tell you right up front, he doesn't take any supplements other than the herbs I force on him. And I'm not even sure that he takes those religiously. I think he is taking the gotu kola religiously, though, because he says it's helping, and he doesn't seem to be limping very much. (He doesn't live with me, but works for me, so I see him almost every day, even if only for an hour or so.)

He's not into allopathy, either, especially since he had to deal with the Army's version of it when he was in the military, and that ain't fun. He was in four more years after he injured his back, with no real treatment besides Motrin (and, of course, that's not treatment). When he'd come home on leave I took him to the chiropractor and to my magic lady (energy/breath-work/Reiki, etc.), and he'd get better, then he'd go right back to duty and be in pain again. Now that he's finally out we can work on getting it actually healed.

Although he doesn't take supplements, his diet is very good. He eats a lot of sushi and stir-fry foods, also any home-made meal Mom is willing to make.<G> He was drinking a bit more than I care for for a bit, but I think he was in a lot of pain then, and the drinking has diminished; I think the pain has also. This last gasp with the tincture may be just what he needs to finish healing this injury. He's also going to a chiropractor regularly, a good one who incorporates massage and nerve stimulation into the practice, and no cracking.

I'll work on the cleanse....maybe I can get him to do one with me. I wish I could get him into yoga; I'm sure that would help. He's not violently opposed to it, just doesn't do it.<G>

Thanks for all your help. I can't wait to get him started on the tincture and see what that does!

Sharyn

From: Don Quai [mailto:mysticalherbalist@...]

How is his diet or should I even ask? Is he getting enough lecithin and omegas? They are quite essential for helping to rebuild and repair nerve tissues. The inner bark of Black Walnut is very good for nerves and nerve sheaths providing organic magnesium sulphate.However, his best option, and probably the one he most likely will balk at is a total body cleanse. I don't know if this is gonna help you much Sharyn as it really is up to him whether he wants to fix the problem or just continue with band-aids. I know for me at that age band-aids worked just fine but then I didn't fall off a cliff.

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Sharyn Cerniglia wrote:

> I'll tell you right up front, he doesn't take any supplements other

> than the herbs I force on him. And I'm not even sure that he takes

> those religiously. I think he is taking the gotu kola religiously,

> though, because he says it's helping, and he doesn't seem to be

> limping very much. (He doesn't live with me, but works for me, so I

> see him almost every day, even if only for an hour or so.)

>

> He's not into allopathy, either, especially since he had to deal with

> the Army's version of it when he was in the military, and that ain't

> fun. He was in four more years after he injured his back, with no

> real treatment besides Motrin (and, of course, that's not treatment).

> When he'd come home on leave I took him to the chiropractor and to my

> magic lady (energy/breath-work/Reiki, etc.), and he'd get better, then

> he'd go right back to duty and be in pain again. Now that he's

> finally out we can work on getting it actually healed.

>

> Although he doesn't take supplements, his diet is very good. He eats

> a lot of sushi and stir-fry foods, also any home-made meal Mom is

> willing to make.<G> He was drinking a bit more than I care for for a

> bit, but I think he was in a lot of pain then, and the drinking has

> diminished; I think the pain has also. This last gasp with the

> tincture may be just what he needs to finish healing this injury.

> He's also going to a chiropractor regularly, a good one who

> incorporates massage and nerve stimulation into the practice, and no

> cracking.

>

> I'll work on the cleanse....maybe I can get him to do one with me. I

> wish I could get him into yoga; I'm sure that would help. He's not

> violently opposed to it, just doesn't do it.<G>

>

> Thanks for all your help. I can't wait to get him started on the

> tincture and see what that does!

>

> Sharyn

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Tai Chi would do him a world of good too. Either yoga or tai chi.

Stretching the back and keeping it limber and supple is very beneficial

for helping to reduce pain. Course that goes for any part of the body.

I do believe that he would benefit greatly from a thorough cleansing.

All those meds have done is locked that injury in place. A good cleanse

and then some body/energy work should release it and allow healing to

occur.

Do keep us posted won't you Sharyn? Hope all this helps him. Peace be

with you Sharyn.

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Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

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