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This is your "mama" talking... and you know you always listen to your "mama"... so don't argue with this post.

1 - What "tea" herbs were you looking for?

2 - What herbs do you have on hand?

3 - What herbs were you looking for?

4 - What is your mailing addy?

5 - How old is the wee one anyway? (ya know, mamas are supposed to know these things)

Now, I want you to answer all the above questions. This is your family talking here.

And you know what family and friends are here for.Sara Thustra <sara.thustra@...> wrote:

*sigh* No, it's not like that. It's like, "I don't buy my own groceries because I can't afford to," and when you're living on charity, you subsist on what you can get. It's not fun, and I'm new to it; I'm used to being able to treat myself and my family better than this. I've always been a big fan of natural healing, but ever since I hit rough times, I've discovered that it's not something geared for the poor. Organic costs more, raw and un-processed things are harder to find, and naturopaths (if you can find them, which you can't around here) cost as much as doctors and don't take insurance (which I don't have anyway).I hear, often through this list, about communities where people support each other, and trade things, and where living "clean" doesn't cost more than living on the corporate take...I really hope

that idea catches on, and spreads to more places. But sometimes it's depressing hearing about it.We had to abandon the SCD idea, by the way. I was able to make one batch of chicken soup, but to make anything else we could eat, I would have had to go shopping, and it was that or diapers for the baby, so no go. He still generally feels okay, or tolerable, as long as he doesn't drink coffee, so I guess we cross our fingers and I keep saving up until I have enough to take him to the clinic (we found a sliding-scale one, but you have to have $50 to be seen, even if that's not what it ends up costing, so...) and hopefully, we can find out what's up.Thanks as always for the help, but I think I'm gonna go no-mail for a while. Health is of great interest to me, but I just don't need the extra stress right now of thinking about what I *should* be doing and can't. I can barely take this as it is.

(And heh, immediately I thought of eight or nine teas I could make for stress, and none of which I can buy the herbs for. It's almost funny, isn't it?)-STMorningGlory113@... wrote:> Doing it anyway, but yeah, way inconvenient, very> difficult. -ST> > You sound like you're really putting up lots of resistance to this, > Sara. Buying fresh veggies will cost less in the long run, as things > like meat and pre-packaged are very expensive. If you have a pot, you > can just make up some vegetable soup for starters. You don't have to > have all sorts of fancy equipment and recipes. It is not really that > diffifcult to do. Plus we can help you if you need pointers.> > Gloria> > > > > >

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Mama Suzi - you rock. Sara, answer her questions - send Suzi your mailing address privately if you want but post what you need here. Santa may just have to visit you early <weg>

-----Original Message-----From: Suzanne [mailto:suziesgoats@...]Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 9:11 PMhealth Subject: Re: Re: was Walking Pneumonia / now Sara's Friend / SCD

,

This is your "mama" talking... and you know you always listen to your "mama"... so don't argue with this post.

1 - What "tea" herbs were you looking for?

2 - What herbs do you have on hand?

3 - What herbs were you looking for?

4 - What is your mailing addy?

5 - How old is the wee one anyway? (ya know, mamas are supposed to know these things)

Now, I want you to answer all the above questions. This is your family talking here.

And you know what family and friends are here for.Sara Thustra <sara.thustra@...> wrote:

*sigh* No, it's not like that. It's like, "I don't buy my own groceries because I can't afford to," and when you're living on charity, you subsist on what you can get. It's not fun, and I'm new to it; I'm used to being able to treat myself and my family better than this. I've always been a big fan of natural healing, but ever since I hit rough times, I've discovered that it's not something geared for the poor. Organic costs more, raw and un-processed things are harder to find, and naturopaths (if you can find them, which you can't around here) cost as much as doctors and don't take insurance (which I don't have anyway).I hear, often through this list, about communities where people support each other, and trade things, and where living "clean" doesn't cost more than living on the corporate take...I really hope that idea catches on, and spreads to more places. But sometimes it's depressing hearing about it.We had to abandon the SCD idea, by the way. I was able to make one batch of chicken soup, but to make anything else we could eat, I would have had to go shopping, and it was that or diapers for the baby, so no go. He still generally feels okay, or tolerable, as long as he doesn't drink coffee, so I guess we cross our fingers and I keep saving up until I have enough to take him to the clinic (we found a sliding-scale one, but you have to have $50 to be seen, even if that's not what it ends up costing, so...) and hopefully, we can find out what's up.Thanks as always for the help, but I think I'm gonna go no-mail for a while. Health is of great interest to me, but I just don't need the extra stress right now of thinking about what I *should* be doing and can't. I can barely take this as it is. (And heh, immediately I thought of eight or nine teas I could make for stress, and none of which I can buy the herbs for. It's almost funny, isn't it?)-STMorningGlory113@... wrote:> Doing it anyway, but yeah, way inconvenient, very> difficult. -ST> > You sound like you're really putting up lots of resistance to this, > Sara. Buying fresh veggies will cost less in the long run, as things > like meat and pre-packaged are very expensive. If you have a pot, you > can just make up some vegetable soup for starters. You don't have to > have all sorts of fancy equipment and recipes. It is not really that > diffifcult to do. Plus we can help you if you need pointers.> > Gloria> > > > > >

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Sara Thustra wrote:

> *sigh* No, it's not like that. It's like, " I don't buy my own

> groceries because I can't afford to, " and when you're living on charity,

> you subsist on what you can get. It's not fun, and I'm new to it; I'm

> used to being able to treat myself and my family better than this. I've

> always been a big fan of natural healing, but ever since I hit rough

> times, I've discovered that it's not something geared for the poor.

> Organic costs more, raw and un-processed things are harder to find, and

> naturopaths (if you can find them, which you can't around here) cost as

> much as doctors and don't take insurance (which I don't have anyway).

>

> I hear, often through this list, about communities where people support

> each other, and trade things, and where living " clean " doesn't cost more

> than living on the corporate take...I really hope that idea catches on,

> and spreads to more places. But sometimes it's depressing hearing

> about it.

>

> We had to abandon the SCD idea, by the way. I was able to make one

> batch of chicken soup, but to make anything else we could eat, I would

> have had to go shopping, and it was that or diapers for the baby, so no

> go. He still generally feels okay, or tolerable, as long as he doesn't

> drink coffee, so I guess we cross our fingers and I keep saving up until

> I have enough to take him to the clinic (we found a sliding-scale one,

> but you have to have $50 to be seen, even if that's not what it ends up

> costing, so...) and hopefully, we can find out what's up.

>

> Thanks as always for the help, but I think I'm gonna go no-mail for a

> while. Health is of great interest to me, but I just don't need the

> extra stress right now of thinking about what I *should* be doing and

> can't. I can barely take this as it is. (And heh, immediately I

> thought of eight or nine teas I could make for stress, and none of which

> I can buy the herbs for. It's almost funny, isn't it?)

>

> -ST

=============================

Hi Sara,

Now let's not be too rash here. We are all here to help. I know that

sometimes it may not sound that way but it is true. You give Suzi that

info, and the rest of us as well, and let us see what we can put

together for ya.

Couple of questions if I may. Has your SO considered doing a fast? Just

a water fast, no food nothing else. Go for three days minimum. If

nothing else you and he both might learn something about his condition

by doing this. Also, can you score on a cabbage or two? If so I highly

suggest making the cabbage juice and having him drink lots of it daily.

But the fast would tell you much about his condition. It almost sounds

to me like he is suffereing from a Hiatal hernia. Now I could be wrong

here but it is becoming apparant that a many cases of acid reflux are

due to a hiatal hernia. I am sure we have been over this before and

until he can get in to be seen by the MD the fast will take a load off

his digestive system and the cabbage juice is well noted for healing and

soothing gastric disturbances all the way down the pipes.

Hang in there Sara. Don't give up on yourselves just yet, or us.

--

Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

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I sure know where Sara is coming from, though I am a

bit better off. I am slowly building my herb supply

up, and slowly buying organic and unprocessed and

generally feeling better. But, you know, some weeks I

mostly eat Top Ramen because it is very affordable.

And eggs. But if I had more than myself and my cat

to support, I would be in big hurt.

Jan

--- Sara Thustra

<sara.thustra@...> wrote:

> *sigh* No, it's not like that. It's like, " I don't

> buy my own

> groceries because I can't afford to, " and when

> you're living on charity,

> you subsist on what you can get. It's not fun, and

> I'm new to it; I'm

> used to being able to treat myself and my family

> better than this. I've

> always been a big fan of natural healing, but ever

> since I hit rough

> times, I've discovered that it's not something

> geared for the poor.

> Organic costs more, raw and un-processed things are

> harder to find, and

> naturopaths (if you can find them, which you can't

> around here) cost as

> much as doctors and don't take insurance (which I

> don't have anyway).

>

> I hear, often through this list, about communities

> where people support

> each other, and trade things, and where living

> " clean " doesn't cost more

> than living on the corporate take...I really hope

> that idea catches on,

> and spreads to more places. But sometimes it's

> depressing hearing about it.

>

> We had to abandon the SCD idea, by the way. I was

> able to make one

> batch of chicken soup, but to make anything else we

> could eat, I would

> have had to go shopping, and it was that or diapers

> for the baby, so no

> go. He still generally feels okay, or tolerable, as

> long as he doesn't

> drink coffee, so I guess we cross our fingers and I

> keep saving up until

> I have enough to take him to the clinic (we found a

> sliding-scale one,

> but you have to have $50 to be seen, even if that's

> not what it ends up

> costing, so...) and hopefully, we can find out

> what's up.

>

> Thanks as always for the help, but I think I'm gonna

> go no-mail for a

> while. Health is of great interest to me, but I

> just don't need the

> extra stress right now of thinking about what I

> *should* be doing and

> can't. I can barely take this as it is. (And heh,

> immediately I

> thought of eight or nine teas I could make for

> stress, and none of which

> I can buy the herbs for. It's almost funny, isn't

> it?)

>

> -ST

>

> MorningGlory113@... wrote:

> > Doing it anyway, but yeah, way inconvenient, very

> > difficult. -ST

> >

> > You sound like you're really putting up lots of

> resistance to this,

> > Sara. Buying fresh veggies will cost less in the

> long run, as things

> > like meat and pre-packaged are very expensive. If

> you have a pot, you

> > can just make up some vegetable soup for starters.

> You don't have to

> > have all sorts of fancy equipment and recipes. It

> is not really that

> > diffifcult to do. Plus we can help you if you need

> pointers.

> >

> > Gloria

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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