Re: Re: another drug down, one to go

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Janelle Witter wrote:

>

>

> Thanks, all of you, as I sniffle. The past few days

> have been a tad hard, or else I have the flu and one

> of the worst migraines I've ever had... at least I

> did start taking the trazedone somewhat knowingly. I

> just recently discovered that an MS injectible drug I

> took for 3 months 5 years ago is actually a polymer,

> like injecting myself with a plastic each day, without

> realizing it. No wonder the MS symptoms got worse so

> fast, no wonder I got those weird nasty headaches from

> it. Okay, you look at the MRI and see this lesion in

> your spinal cord and think " paralysis " , maybe you are

> in a weak moment. I wonder if the neurologist even

> knew what Copaxone actually is, glatiramir acetate. I

> have feeling rather a lot of anger about that one --

> how much of the MS getting better is simply me getting

> this crap out of my body and the residual effects of

> it?

> And what bothers me anymore about my last drug, the

> wellbutrin (but I am alive and I truly wouldn't be

> without it), is that it comes out of me as it went in.

> They give us drugs that aren't even metabolized. How

> on earth do they work?

> The wellbutrin is one I am going to taper off of,

> slowly, and fearfully. Make that cautiously. Though

> I do have to wonder about my dependence on an

> anti-depressant when depression isn't the real issue.

>

> I am really babblying on here. Sorry, end of a long

> week. Thanks, Beverly, and thanks to you all

>

> Janelle

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Hi Janelle,

Yep, injecting synthetic proteins is not a really good thing for the

human body. Shoot, injecting anything synthetic is not good for the

human body. Now is a really good tiime for you to begin rebuilding your

immune system. Cleansing out the pharmaceutical toxins will help your

MS, that is for sure as will cleansing and fasting in general.

Detoxifying the body and getting all the garbage out is the only way to

overcome any, and I do mean any, dis-ease or physical maladies. You will

only get better by doing so.

It is quite prudent to wean yourself off the anti-depressants unless, of

course, you have had your fill of them and just up and go cold turkey. I

don't recommend anyone to go cold turkey but I won't stop anyone from

making their choice and I will assist in any way I can. These

pharmaceutical companies sure use a lot of toxic chemicals and metals in

their formulations. There is a fair amount of aluminum in Wellbutrin

(used in their colors). Yes, it would be good for you to wean yourself

off of this one ASAP. Aluminum and MS don't necessarily mix very well.

Then again, why are you taking Wellbutrin? If your not depressed......

Peace be with you Janelle.

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and wakes in man. "

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I have already quit most of the stuff. Twelve years

for all the other drugs and the alcohol, 4 years for

tobacco. Yeah, a drug is a drug is a drug, but

mornings when I can't sleep I really miss

chain-smoking at 3 a.m. and guzzling coffee (really do

miss the cigs then, and that's the only time).

Thanks so much for all the support. Can't tell you

what it means, or maybe I don't have to?

Janelle

--- Rik <bliksemskater@...> wrote:

>

> good for you!

>

> i have come off 2 drugs this year, lorazepam and

> inderal. it took me

> half a year for the lorazepam and 4 months for the

> indral to come

> off. it was very difficlut, but i am so glad that i

> did it this

> time (O: i did it very slowly, 1/4th of a pill per 2

> weeks. this

> was the fastest that my body could stand. after i

> was done i managed

> to stop my drinking addiction and also my smoking

> addiction (20+

> years)so 4 bad ones in a year, not a bad year i'd

> say!! my doctor

> smiled at me and said: it is good to be healthy hey!

> he knows i am

> into naturals ways and he told me to keep doing what

> i am doing, and

> i am. keep strong and you will get better. email me

> if you need to

> have some online help, groups for addictions, pills,

> alcohol,

> smoking.......... ya know. good luck and stay

> positive (O: don't

> feed on the bad moments, the past, stay with the

> good stuff and look

> forward, you will win!! toodles, rik

>

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Janelle Witter wrote:

>

> Actually I usually don't get into all this, not sure

> why I did right now other than the meds and

> needing/wanting to get off them. Just part of me

> under the covers, really.

>

> Janelle

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planet we all need daily confirmation of sorts that we still exist, mean

something to others and that our life has a purpose. Man is the only

species that cannot truly live singly, alone without other humans around

and not lose a few marbles in the process. There is a purpose to that.

This is how mankind was designed. We are all here to help one another,

not just this list, but in life in general. We are all from the same

source and we all need one another to get back to source. We are all

related to one another in spirit and we are all related to everything

else in the universe. We are the caretakers of this planet and

everything upon it. We need each other, we need to harmonize within

ourselves first, with one another secondly, and then with the rest of

creation.

Anyone who needs help, that is what we are here for, to help others to

overcome, improve, learn, heal and move onto bigger and better ideals.

In the end, the only true value anyone has to show for their life is in

how willingly they helped others to improve and succeed.

You wish help, we are here to help in any way we can. We may not have

all the answers but that won't deter us from assisting, coaching,

supporting or cheering you on. My purpose is to help others to realize

true health. This is my life's purpose. True health begins with truth

and honesty. Being true to yourself, always seeking the truth and being

completely honest with yourself. If you can do that then you are well on

your way to being healthy.

Okay, I'll get back off my soapbox again. Peace be with you Janelle and

remember that there are always people who care about you and your well

being. Thanks for taking that step to let a little light into your life.

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Janelle Witter wrote:

> Yeah I'm depressed. The official label is chronic

> clinincal sucidal depression, and the non-official

> truth is that sometimes it is pretty bad. But then

> I've always (that I remember) been that way, so I

> don't think of it to myself as depression. I have a

> tougher time with the realness issues and those little

> things that aren't really there.... we decided that so

> long as I know they aren't really there, so what?

> Right? Better than taking something really nasty like

> anti-psychotics.

>

> all in all, mostly, it makes for a pretty

> interesting life and though I may not particularly not

> want to be here I seem to be stuck so usually make the

> most of it and try to have fun. (Occasional drug

> withdrawals and things can tweak the fabric too much

> and make it rough)

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Depression of any kind is one way the body tells you that you need to

cleanse out excess mucus and toxins. I think everyone is going to get

tired of hearing me say this but it is true. The only way to overcome

any mental, emotional or physical problems is with fasting, cleansing,

juicing and changing ones diet to a raw natural food diet. Your not

depressed Janelle, your brain and body are just toxic from mucus and

drug residues. Fasting and cleansing will remove these obstructions to

your health. Once they are out of your body you will experience health

and vitality like you never imagined.

Yes, it is work. But then it was work getting your body into the

condition it is now in. Nobody needs to suffer from ill health. It is

only by choice that we do. Go for the cleasning Janelle. You can do it

and you can overcome all of this. It doesn't matter what you have put

into your body. It can all be removed and your organs and tissues can be

repaired, rebuilt and brought back into a state of harmony.

We can help and are more than happy to do so. Peace be with you Janelle.

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Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

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and wakes in man. "

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