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Gee Vince -

Thanks for the coral calcium post .......... I think. :-)

- Art

Calcium from Okinawa

> Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999

> From: Ozz <ozz@...>

> tpolevoy@...

>

> I read with interest your letter to Okinawa Times. I lived

> in Okinawa for 13 years and can tell you that Okinawans do

> not mine coral reefs for calcium. Their major source of

> calcium is fish.

>

> The well water which is probably high in mineral deposits as

> Okinawa is primarily a limestone island, is undrinkable due

> to pollution.

>

> Before 1960 or so a large percentage of the rural population

> obtained its drinking water from wells, springs or streams,

> and I imagine there was a higher content of minerals in the

> water. Okinawa has the distinction of the highest ratio

> seniors over the age of 100 in comparison to the general

> population of any prefecture in Japan. I don't think there

> are any quite a 150 years old, but Okinawa has boasted the

> oldest people in the world for some time. The Okinawans who

> live that long all share several things in common:

>

> 1. High fiber, low fat diet. Lots of rice, " yama-imo "

> mountain potato, other root vegetables, " miso " made from soy

> beans and barley and other grain. The primary meat intake

> was fish. Pork and goat meat were considered delicacies and

> only consumed on special occassions.

>

> 2. Exercise. Rural Okinawans worked hard for a living.

> Cultivation was by hand. They did not have many work

> animals. Fishermen swam and dove without benefit of

> equipment. Women had to haul water etc. etc. If they went

> anywhere they walked.

>

> 3. Attitude. Okinawans have the attitude that, generally

> speaking, close enough is good enough, if it doesn't get

> done today there is always tomorrow. They are very friendly

> and magnanomous, rarely getting upset, and go with the flow.

> I have visited 7 or 8 countries and Okinawans are the most

> easy-going I have encountered, by a long shot.

>

> These are just general observations that I have made while

> living there. Japan has one of the lowest cancer rates for a

> first world country, but with the change in diet, lots of

> Mcs, etc. that the younger generation is accustomed to

> the cancer rate has been going up. Japanese women who

> relocate to the US and change diets, breast cancer rates are

> the same as for US women within a couple of decades. Women

> who remain in Japan and keep a traditional diet, have a much

> lower breast cancer rate.

>

> Anyway I digress. Bottom line, the folks who are selling

> this calcium from the corral reefs are full of it.

>

> That source of calcium is no different from any other source

> and will not make you live longer. If you want to live

> longer, move to rural Okinawa, change your attitude and diet

> and hope for the best.

>

> Hope I answered your question and didn't ramble too much.

>

> Ozz

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> Odd balls, goof balls, and calcium balls - it's all just

> shattered dreams

> The Wolfe Clinic - Nova Scotia

> The Wolfe Clinic - Nova Scotia homepage - Self proclaimed

> doctor of acupuncture Darrell Wolfe, the publisher of

> " Reclaim your inner terrain " , holds down the front lines in

> his search for invisible parasites and an unbalanced pH. He

> wants you to believe that because the brown spots on a

> banana indicate mold, that you should go out and buy Coral

> Calcium and a few dozen other potions.

> Here are a few comments from his tape and his pamphlet

>

> Our health system is structured for the benefits of the few,

> not the many

> ...germs do not cause disease

> pH balancing is the greatest weapon for the health of

> mankind

> There is only one sickness, one disease, and one cause

> Life and death are in the blood

> How are you inner streams?

> Cancer is a four letter word and that word is acid

> ...anything acidic is lacking in oxygen

> Auto Warburg received the Nobel prize for proving that a

> lack of oxygen causes cancer and with further studies with

> Dr. Reich, they proved that it was actually a lack of

> nutritional calcium. (He can't even spell Otto right, so why

> should we trust his scientific knowledge?

> ...if you've got the right philosophy and you've got the

> right products then you are going to get results

> Once you start taking disease and putting them into a

> hundred different slots, that's when all of the confusion

> begins

> Look, if you don't want to take supplement, you haven't got

> a chance

> When we're stressed, we release hormones. Their adrenals are

> dumping out hormones and....this causes acidosis, it cuts

> down their oxygen supply to the brain and nervous system,

> eating up calcium. (I thought most of the calcium was either

> in the bones or bound to protein?)

> Prices

> Calcium -

> Dr. Don Nakatsuchi - Texas optometrist and MLM guru

> Dr. Nakatsuchi's Coral Calcium homepage

> Dr. Nakatsuchi's Totalmarketing operations

> Dr. Nakatsuchi's Coral Calcium more information

> Health - Boosters - Canada's own

> Homepage -

> Direct Nutrition

> Direct Nutrition Main

> The wrinkle patch -REALLY - The Wrinkle patch - yeah right!

> Marine Bio Japan

> Marine Bio Japan - homepage

> CoralTM - yes folks someone actually trademarked the name

> Coral. Coral grains are grains of the skeletal structure of

> reef-building coral that has become defunct. Moreover, the

> method by which they are obtained does not destroy living

> coral reefs or in any way damage the environment.

> ------------------------------------------------------------

> --------------------

> More MLM companies that sell or promote Coral Calcium

> products that some claim will change the pH of your blood,

> prolong life, and may prevent cancer - all while trying to

> make you think you can get rich quick

> The history of Coral Calcium - according to them

> Total Health Expo in Toronto homepage - look for books by

> Dr. Carl J. Reich and R. Barefoot

> Coral Waters - Canadian link

> FAQ about Coral Calcium from colloidal-min.com

> Send for Barefoot's book

> The Millenium Team - We find that there are two types of

> people in the world, doers and watchers. If you are a doer,

> are interested in health, wealth, and time freedom, then go

> to The Millennium Team page

> Kalaya Marketing

> Coral Waters - Coral Calcium

> Benchmark U.S.A.

> Coral Calcium from Hawaii

> Deja News and e-mails that prove that to Coral Calcium

> fanciers - the world is still flat

> Lenn Sander - The world reknown " Sango King " spills his guts

> out over coral in 17 alt. news groups and other kinky

> places.

> A great piece of work, I'd say - A singularly brilliant

> response to Lenn Sander by Landis of the

> alt.support.chronic-pain group.

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> Medline and Medical links

> Colloidal Mineral Supplements: Unnecessary and Potentially

> Hazardous - Pontolillo

> D. Wallach, " The Mineral Doctor " - The Skeptics

> Dictionary

> Okinawan health stories debunked: Barefoot's claims that

> Okinawans live long because they are flooded with corral

> calcium in their food and in the air.

> FDA Calcium recommedations

> Mayo Clinic Calcium recommendations

> Prevention and management of osteoporosis: Consensus

> statements from the Scientific Advisory Board of the

> Osteoporosis Society of Canada - Calcium nutrition and

> osteoporosis

> Tim M. Murray, MD, FRCPC Canadian Medical Association

> Journal 1996; 155 (suppl): 935-939

> SALIVA AS AN ANALYTICAL TOOL IN TOXICOLOGY - What can you

> see from analyzing saliva? It appears that Dr. Carl J. Reich

> never lived long enough to know that saliva is a crystal

> ball into all sorts of useful diagnostic areas of medicine.

> But, checking the pH of it is never mentioned at all in this

> over 100k file from the Utrecht Institute of Pharmaceutical

> Sciences, in Holland.

> dale's Medical Nutrition Resources -

> Pharma Nord Research links on Calcium - pay attention to the

> absorption and cancer studies. It may take a while to

> download as some of the files are over 130k, but it will be

> worth it. I think that Mr. Barefoot's contention that we

> should all pig out on bacon, butter, eggs and milk products

> is not the best idea. Cancer rates in vegetarians if far

> lower than meat eaters.

> Calculate your calcium needs - Kline Beecham - Use the

> " Calcium Calculator " to estimate your current daily calcium

> intake,and learn about sources of calcium to help you

> achieve your recommended daily intake. (Hey, I entered the

> word " coral " into the database and it didn't register....how

> strange, eh?)

> Quack science and scientists often associated with Carl

> Reich, or his successors

> Oxylist Re: theory of cancer cause - links about Otto

> Warburg and Carl Reich. Only one of them won fought for the

> Kaiser, worked in Nazi Germany, and won two Nobel Prizes.

> What exactly Dr. Reich did is not very clear, even from

> their own publications.

> Dr. Otto Warburg: From the book The Warburgs: The

> Twentieth-Century Odyssey of a Remarkable Jewish Family, by

> Ron Chernow. New York: Random House, 1993.

> Warburg was a doctor and winner of 2 Nobel prizes. The first

> was in 1931 for physiology and medicine. In spite of his

> Jewish ancestry and outspoken hostility to the Hitler

> regime, he was permitted to continue his work at the Kaiser

> Wilhelm Institute in Berlin. Because of his Jewish ancestry,

> in 1941 he briefly lost his post at the Institute, " but a

> few weeks later received a personal order from Hitler's

> Chancellery to resume work on his cancer research. " Otto

> Warburg's decision to collaborate with the regime, writes

> Chernow, " incensed colleagues outside Germany. " The

> scientist " justified his decision to stay in Nazi Germany by

> claiming that he was performing extremely important cancer

> research that would save lives and that he couldn't transfer

> his research operation abroad. "

> Ripples From O.C. Healer's Case Spreading - the amazing

> world of Salvatore D'Onofrio According to D'Onofrio,

> inserting ozone through tubes in the vagina is a powerful,

> immediate way to activate the immune system. Sound almost as

> crazy as Dr. Carl Reich's theories, but much more kinky.

> Copy of Dr. Carl Reich's license revocation form in

> California

> DOCBOARD - Search many U.S. States for you favourite quack

> doctor - it's too bad that Canada has nothing to offer the

> public s yet.

> Quotes and anecdotes carved in stone

> The Car Talk guys from Boston's own NPR station weekly quiz

> on Hunzas: They should live so long, eh?

> Calcium rocks and organic watering holes around the world

> Doc's Mineral Rocks with FULVIC acid -

> " nature intended us to get most of our minerals in a plant

> form "

>

> " most minerals in most supplements are not chelated or

> citrated and hence are often found in a more rudimentary or

> less absorable form "

>

> " UNBIASED " report on Colloidal minerals - that's an

> oxymoronic term if ever I heard one - " Break a leg "

> Minerals, Minerals, Minerals

>

> In the past few years there has been a massive marketing

> blitz concerning minerals. This blitz has been both good and

> bad. On a positive note, it has served to help educate

> people concerning their need for minerals. But, at the same

> time, these same people have become extremely confused about

> what form of mineral to take. (In other words, " Can you have

> your rocks and eat it, too? " )

>

> Mendocino Water - California - testimonials from one medical

> doctor says:

> " The form of calcium in Mendocino Sparkling Mineral Water

> (calcium carbonate) is more readily absorbed by the

> intestine than is calcium phosphate (as in milk) or calcium

> oxalate (as in green, leafy vegetables). "

>

> Professor Floyd C. Rector, M.D., Chairman University of

> California Medical Center, San Francisco

>

> Reef sites

> Mother on the destruction of the coral reefs - Coral

> mining: People excavate coral reefs for their limestone and

> sand, for use in building materials, resort hotel beaches,

> tourist souvenirs, even snake-oil medicines: A Swedish

> company, ssons Preventive Medical Group, claims its

> Alka-Mine Coral Calcium will " naturally detox the body by

> neutralizing the acidity with which we are all...too apt to

> pollute our systems. " Sweden, of course, has no coral reefs;

> the product's mineral-rich coral sand is mined off Okinawa.

> Coral Calcium scams destroy Okinawan reefs - " The Secret to

> Longer Life Now Revealed! " so says the latest bogus health

> claim. This industry is mining coral off of Okinawa to sell

> as a mineral supplement to cure all kinds of ailments, from

> arthritis to cancer. Of course, there is no scientific or

> medical evidence to substantiate their claims the mining

> destroys the reef ecosystem. Drinking Perrier water is a

> safer bet for those seeking minerals.

> Reef Relief links - lots of great links about coral reefs

> around the world

> NGO links about coral reefs-

> What is a reef? -

> Alarming Decline of Coral Reefs Worldwide - by Emil Venere -

> Whatever the causes, the potential ecological and economic

> consequences are ominous. Theories blame pollution, oil

> spills and sedimentation caused by construction and waste

> discharge. "

> CORAL REEFS IN OKINAWA, JAPAN - Kiyoshi Yamazato Meio

> University Okinawa, Japan - Coral reefs in the islands of

> Okinawa were devastated by Acanthaster planci, the coral

> eating crown-of-thorns starfish during the period 1974 to

> 1977. Since then, corals have recovered in some areas, but

> they are now under attack by Acanthaster once again. As a

> consequence, coral coverage remains at low levels. (So why

> are they mining it?)

> Yoshimine Zenji: A Life Dedicated to the Reefs - By Maggie

> Suzuki - The movement spearheaded by Yoshimine-san to review

> public works in Okinawa, most specifically agricultural

> improvement projects which are causing coral-killing soil

> erosion, has made little progress against the massive

> inertia of established practice. Agricultural improvement

> projects in Okinawa were causing problems due to red silt

> runoff pollution, but the Ministry has never, even up to the

> present, acknowledged the existence of the red silt runoff

> problem or their responsibility in causing it.(What is in

> the silt runoff, and are the coral calcium products derived

> from those very areas?)

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