RE: Mexican Cancer Clinics

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Dear ,

Where are you from? I have been looking into many clinics in Mexico - and

it is very difficult to sort them out! I have read a LOT about the cesium

treatment available in Mexico. Does it work? The information I have found

is that the cesium therapy works very well with no toxic side effects and

the low ph therapy works, but is extremely toxic and difficult to

administer. Is this true?

Would love to learn more from you. (My father has adenocarcinoma of the

lung)

Sandy

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Subject: [ ] Mexican Cancer Clinics

Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 07:48:13 -0700

From: " VGammill " <ygammil1@...>

Johanne Wayne writes:

> We've been to Mexico and everyone we've met died as well. I made it

because

> my brain tumor is benign and they really couldn't help that and my 5 year

> old daughter at the time made it because she didn't have lymphoma to

start

> with! The doctors here felt she had this but the outcome proves

otherwise.

> She is almost 8 years old now and living a very normal life.

List,

I am very happy for you and your 8-year old daughter, but I must say

that this sort of reasoning is very frustrating to Mexican doctors. They

feel robbed of the successes that they do have by the US docs who renig on

the diagnosis. This is very, very common.

It is unfair to cavalierly dismiss Mexican clinics. There are many

factors to consider:

The clinic selected

The attending physician

The treament decided on

The length of stay and aftercare

The compliance of the patient with the program

The stage stage and type of cancer

Concurrent treatments

Past treatments the patients has had

I have seen rip-off clinics in Mexico where everyone does die. I have

also seen clinics where everyone does better (usually patients are

prescreened before acceptance). I admit that it is difficult for a cancer

patient to determine which is which as some of the best sales people and

con artists are associated with the worst clinics. What is worse is that

some of the most sincere true believers are associated with some of the

worst clinics.

I have seen patients go to one clinic and get a low pH therapy while

going next door and getting a high pH therapy. If you are interested in

Mexico, consider the reputation of the clinic more than their advertising

or promises. Ask the drivers of the services who carry patients to all the

clinics and have been around for many years. Before even telling a clinic

what kind of cancer you have, ask them what they are best at and where they

fall on their face. If they hedge on the last question, steer clear. Be

very cautious of any advisor who touts for a single clinic.

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[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Where are you from? I have been looking into many clinics in Mexico - and

it is very difficult to sort them out! I have read a LOT about the cesium

treatment available in Mexico. Does it work? The information I have found

is that the cesium therapy works very well with no toxic side effects and

the low ph therapy works, but is extremely toxic and difficult to

administer. Is this true?

Would love to learn more from you. (My father has adenocarcinoma of the

lung)

Sandy

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Subject: [ ] Mexican Cancer Clinics

Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 07:48:13 -0700

From: " VGammill " <ygammil1@...>

Johanne Wayne writes:

> We've been to Mexico and everyone we've met died as well. I made it

because

> my brain tumor is benign and they really couldn't help that and my 5 year

> old daughter at the time made it because she didn't have lymphoma to

start

> with! The doctors here felt she had this but the outcome proves

otherwise.

> She is almost 8 years old now and living a very normal life.

List,

I am very happy for you and your 8-year old daughter, but I must say

that this sort of reasoning is very frustrating to Mexican doctors. They

feel robbed of the successes that they do have by the US docs who renig on

the diagnosis. This is very, very common.

It is unfair to cavalierly dismiss Mexican clinics. There are many

factors to consider:

The clinic selected

The attending physician

The treament decided on

The length of stay and aftercare

The compliance of the patient with the program

The stage stage and type of cancer

Concurrent treatments

Past treatments the patients has had

I have seen rip-off clinics in Mexico where everyone does die. I have

also seen clinics where everyone does better (usually patients are

prescreened before acceptance). I admit that it is difficult for a cancer

patient to determine which is which as some of the best sales people and

con artists are associated with the worst clinics. What is worse is that

some of the most sincere true believers are associated with some of the

worst clinics.

I have seen patients go to one clinic and get a low pH therapy while

going next door and getting a high pH therapy. If you are interested in

Mexico, consider the reputation of the clinic more than their advertising

or promises. Ask the drivers of the services who carry patients to all the

clinics and have been around for many years. Before even telling a clinic

what kind of cancer you have, ask them what they are best at and where they

fall on their face. If they hedge on the last question, steer clear. Be

very cautious of any advisor who touts for a single clinic.

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/11/99 11:24:44 AM Central Daylight Time,

sandra_keyes@... writes:

<< Would love to learn more from you. (My father has adenocarcinoma of the

lung)

Sandy

>>

Sandy,

WWW.hacres.com is affiliated with Oasis of Hope you can read about it there

and The Gerson Institute can be found at www.gerson.com

edith

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Great! I'll check them out. Did you go there - or are you a physician

working with them?

Sandy

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Subject: Re: [ ] Mexican Cancer Clinics

Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:07:00 EDT

From: Es9525@...

In a message dated 7/11/99 11:24:44 AM Central Daylight Time,

sandra_keyes@... writes:

<< Would love to learn more from you. (My father has adenocarcinoma of the

lung)

Sandy

>>

Sandy,

WWW.hacres.com is affiliated with Oasis of Hope you can read about it

there

and The Gerson Institute can be found at www.gerson.com

edith

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[Guest guest]

List,

My husband went to a clinic in Mexico, The American Metabolic Institute. It

is sad to here that there are so many victims that have died in a Mexico

Clinic. I did lots of researched on Mexican clinics, and the one my husband

went to was very reputable. This clinic was also written up in a book " The

Definitive Guide to Cancer " , which is a very reputable book. While my

husband was in the clinic, he met lots of people that were coming back for

their follow up visits. Some had been coming for as long as 7 years. He

met many people that were cured from their cancer. If he hadn't of met

these people, he probably would not have stayed at the clinic. After he was

sent home with his home program, we found an MD that practiced alternative

medicine. We showed him the program and everything that my husband was

taking, and he was very pleased with his home program. He did take the

clinics work one step further, but my husband is still alive and still

fighting. If anyone has an questions about the clinic please feel free to

e-mail me.

Margie

[ ] Mexican Cancer Clinics

Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 07:48:13 -0700

From: " VGammill " <ygammil1@...>

Johanne Wayne writes:

> We've been to Mexico and everyone we've met died as well. I made it

because

> my brain tumor is benign and they really couldn't help that and my 5 year

> old daughter at the time made it because she didn't have lymphoma to

start

> with! The doctors here felt she had this but the outcome proves

otherwise.

> She is almost 8 years old now and living a very normal life.

List,

I am very happy for you and your 8-year old daughter, but I must say

that this sort of reasoning is very frustrating to Mexican doctors. They

feel robbed of the successes that they do have by the US docs who renig on

the diagnosis. This is very, very common.

It is unfair to cavalierly dismiss Mexican clinics. There are many

factors to consider:

The clinic selected

The attending physician

The treament decided on

The length of stay and aftercare

The compliance of the patient with the program

The stage stage and type of cancer

Concurrent treatments

Past treatments the patients has had

I have seen rip-off clinics in Mexico where everyone does die. I have

also seen clinics where everyone does better (usually patients are

prescreened before acceptance). I admit that it is difficult for a cancer

patient to determine which is which as some of the best sales people and

con artists are associated with the worst clinics. What is worse is that

some of the most sincere true believers are associated with some of the

worst clinics.

I have seen patients go to one clinic and get a low pH therapy while

going next door and getting a high pH therapy. If you are interested in

Mexico, consider the reputation of the clinic more than their advertising

or promises. Ask the drivers of the services who carry patients to all the

clinics and have been around for many years. Before even telling a clinic

what kind of cancer you have, ask them what they are best at and where they

fall on their face. If they hedge on the last question, steer clear. Be

very cautious of any advisor who touts for a single clinic.

---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Sandy,

Dr. Contraras runs the Oasis of Health. A couple of yrs ago he came to a

nearby town so some friends and myself went to hear him. I was very

impressed with the seminar. He talked about killing ourselves and family

with our horrible diets. One woman there had breast cancer and told him what

the local MD wanted to give her and very kindly he told her he thought that

was extremely dangerous. This was not a pitch for his clinic. I'm not sure

he mentioned it. He mostly talked about eating good food and avoiding many

things in everyday life. Then I found out later he and Hallelujah Acres work

together.

As for The Gerson Institute, they are world renowned. I have many tapes by

Charlotte Gerson on health issues. Several of us have used these principles

to over come many maladies from severe indigestion to rheumatoid arthrites.

I'm constantly wanting to learn more about health.

edith

In a message dated 7/12/99 9:54:34 AM Central Daylight Time,

sandra_keyes@... writes:

<< From: " Keyes " <sandra_keyes@...>

Hi,

Great! I'll check them out Did you go there - or are you a physician

working with them?

Sandy

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From: Es9525@...

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onelist

Subject: Re: [ ] Mexican Cancer Clinics

Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:07:00 EDT

From: Es9525@...

In a message dated 7/11/99 11:24:44 AM Central Daylight Time,

sandra_keyes@... writes:

<< Would love to learn more from you. (My father has adenocarcinoma of the

lung)

Sandy

>>

Sandy,

WWW.hacres.com is affiliated with Oasis of Hope you can read about it

there

and The Gerson Institute can be found at www.gerson.com

edith