Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Ok , Where to start.. Sylvia has a fast pace life and she has done the total cleanse.. I've done it and I work full time in an office. It can be done...but that is later... Let's start, first, were your grains sprouted? makes a difference... you want to release the enzyme inhibitors for the grains to be of any good to you. You can always do water fasts or juice fasts for a couple days... You can eat more raw You can do detox baths, start with baby steps.. Once you start cleansing little by little it will get easier. Start with one day juice fasts and work your way up each week or two.. or so.. Do you have any herbs? I'm sure there are many on this list that can help you out with some herbs if money is a problem... We have done this for others. We also trade on Sundays... Heck, we trade herbs for soaps, handmake dolls, jams, etc. And if you have nothing to trade right now we only ask that when the time comes you can help another that you do. That is what we're all here for... to help each other - whether by listening, giving advice, or whatever. I;m sure Don will have more to say but this is a place to start... check the files under cleanses and fasts for the 3 day juice fast or mucousless diet..... , you can do anything you put your mind to if you want it bad enough... sometimes we're just not at the point of doing a total cleanse yet.. so do a little one... we're all at different points in our road to health... each step takes us closer.....and we're all here for you. Suzi Kane <claire@...> wrote: What I just can't deal with is how in the world I am supposed to gothrough a detox while functioning optimally at work? My job is demandingintellectually and I live far away with a long commute. I don't think mybig problem would be abstinence from the cooked food and the ensuingcravings. I am pretty disciplined.My problem will be when all the prescription drugs I have taken (andstill take) start coming back out!!!! I just cannot understand howsomeone like me could do this without compassionate and personallydetailed support of experts. My two friends don't fit the bill, much asI love them. ly, they have not had chronic serious health problemstheir whole lives, so they don't know really what that is like. Someonein relatively good health really does not have the same challenge. Iknow enough to know that. When I get headaches that make me sick to mystomach, etc., I cannot just keep working. I finally have enough energy because of eating chicken (no hormones,etc.) and stopping grains. Yet, I am still sick a fair amount. But it'sokay, because I get through it with medicine and can meet myresponsibilities. I know this whole circle I am in has a shelf-life, butI really cannot see how I can get through kicking it without losing myjob, (and therefore my house), etc.How can doing it just a little bit help? That doesn't sound right. Ineed to feel GREAT without medicine and I cannot figure out how to getfrom here to there.Hope this makes sense. I am not trying to be negative towards this wayof eating, as I think it is certainly contains powerful truth. Anyideas? No lectures please. I lecture myself enough.Kind Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Kane wrote: > > > So anyway, here we are today. My sister was given the gift of 3 weeks at > the Hippocrates Institute. Se suffers big time with her weight. This > gift has given her the setting and the support of all kinds that have > helped her to face what is going on and have hope that she might be > strong enough to change her problems despite the fact that they are both > physical and emotional. > > I have two dear friends who went raw over the last few years and are > following what I gather to be the most full-bore approach (Wolfe). But > neither of them have had to work full-time the entire time I have known > them and seem to be somewhat financially secure. So they could rest, > take care of themselves and allow detox process. I have had long talks > with one of them. I really respect what they are doing and part of me > envies them. > > What I just can't deal with is how in the world I am supposed to go > through a detox while functioning optimally at work? My job is demanding > intellectually and I live far away with a long commute. I don't think my > big problem would be abstinence from the cooked food and the ensuing > cravings. I am pretty disciplined. > > My problem will be when all the prescription drugs I have taken (and > still take) start coming back out!!!! I just cannot understand how > someone like me could do this without compassionate and personally > detailed support of experts. My two friends don't fit the bill, much as > I love them. ly, they have not had chronic serious health problems > their whole lives, so they don't know really what that is like. Someone > in relatively good health really does not have the same challenge. I > know enough to know that. When I get headaches that make me sick to my > stomach, etc., I cannot just keep working. > > I finally have enough energy because of eating chicken (no hormones, > etc.) and stopping grains. Yet, I am still sick a fair amount. But it's > okay, because I get through it with medicine and can meet my > responsibilities. I know this whole circle I am in has a shelf-life, but > I really cannot see how I can get through kicking it without losing my > job, (and therefore my house), etc. > > How can doing it just a little bit help? That doesn't sound right. I > need to feel GREAT without medicine and I cannot figure out how to get > from here to there. > > Hope this makes sense. I am not trying to be negative towards this way > of eating, as I think it is certainly contains powerful truth. Any > ideas? No lectures please. I lecture myself enough. > > Kind Regards, > ========================= Hi , No it doesn't sound right but it does work. Every little bit helps. Yes, it is possible to do the cleanse while working as Suzi has already mentioned. There are also always holidays and vacation time that can be utilized for this purpose (although I know nobody wants to be doing these sort of things over their holidays and on their vacation). The toxins and excess mucus in the body is what keeps us from going totally raw right now. Why? Because going totally raw acts just like a cleanse and toxins and garbage will begin to be pulled from the organs and tissues and circulated into the blood stream for removal. This will cause you all sorts of grief just as though you were doing a total cleansing. Although, eating only raw and not cleansing will not be as intense as doing a total body cleanse. Probably your best solution would be to do two or three day juice cleanses or water fasts once or twice a month. Try to gradually convert over to eating more raw and less cooked. Lightly steamed is fine for the transition. No it isn't easy to do on a busy schedule but there is always a way. Just be determined, gradually start working your way towards it and the timing will manifest itself for you to do a total cleanse. Baby steps is what most folks need to take in converting over. Especially if they have used lots of medications, have lots of physical problems to deal with and have eaten poorly most of their lives. Slowly you will begin to adjust and begin to feel better. You didn't get where you are overnight so don't expect to get over all of this overnight. Start small and remember that there is always people who will support you whether here or elsewhere. You are not alone. We all need one another to make it in this world. Peace be with you . -- Peace, love and light, Don " Quai " Eitner " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " -- In compliance with the highest standards of Universal Law, this email has been thoroughly disinfected and purified in the solar flares of the sun. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.299 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 1/3/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Hi Don Quai, Thanks for the honest advice. It does help to try to believe that baby steps will make a difference. And the idea that taking those steps will move my universe into manifesting a situation where more is possible resonates even more strongly with how I believe. The impossible situation morphs into something different as we do the best we can to pursue our dreams. Conversely, if we decide soemthing is impossible it is! I tell this to other people all the time (sigh). ;-) I also can see clearly I am not alone. This group is absolutely amazing in tone. And judging from the web, this has become a huge movement with as many subsects as a major religion. It's a far cry from when I met a few lonely brave Ehretists during my travels in 1969. Dick gave it a big push too, as I seem to remember. So goes the evolution of events. From a personal standpoint, I can clearly see this has been finally moving towards manifestation in my life from the dreams I had beginning 6 months ago (peopled with rawfoodists), my two friends going raw and turning their home into a raw food center in my area, and then my dear sister in another state getting this amazing gift of a 3-week stay at a raw food institute. My son up north got into juicing last year, I gave him one as a gift at his request, and although he is not raw, he became quite evangelical about it. lol How much more of a message of hope and encouragement can the universe give me that it is now okay to try to follow my heart and that I can make a way??? Thanks again for the support and the promise of more. Peace, > ========================= > Hi , > > No it doesn't sound right but it does work. Every little bit helps. Yes, > it is possible to do the cleanse while working as Suzi has already > mentioned. There are also always holidays and vacation time that can be > utilized for this purpose (although I know nobody wants to be doing > these sort of things over their holidays and on their vacation). > > The toxins and excess mucus in the body is what keeps us from going > totally raw right now. Why? Because going totally raw acts just like a > cleanse and toxins and garbage will begin to be pulled from the organs > and tissues and circulated into the blood stream for removal. This will > cause you all sorts of grief just as though you were doing a total > cleansing. Although, eating only raw and not cleansing will not be as > intense as doing a total body cleanse. > > Probably your best solution would be to do two or three day juice > cleanses or water fasts once or twice a month. Try to gradually convert > over to eating more raw and less cooked. Lightly steamed is fine for the > transition. No it isn't easy to do on a busy schedule but there is > always a way. Just be determined, gradually start working your way > towards it and the timing will manifest itself for you to do a total > cleanse. Baby steps is what most folks need to take in converting over. > Especially if they have used lots of medications, have lots of physical > problems to deal with and have eaten poorly most of their lives. Slowly > you will begin to adjust and begin to feel better. You didn't get where > you are overnight so don't expect to get over all of this overnight. > Start small and remember that there is always people who will support > you whether here or elsewhere. You are not alone. We all need one > another to make it in this world. > > Peace be with you . > > -- > Peace, love and light, > > Don " Quai " Eitner > > " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " > > > > -- > In compliance with the highest standards of Universal Law, this email has been thoroughly disinfected and purified in the solar flares of the sun. > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.299 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 1/3/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 oak1day wrote: > > > Hi Don Quai, > > Thanks for the honest advice. It does help to try to believe that > baby steps will make a difference. And the idea that taking those > steps will move my universe into manifesting a situation where more > is possible resonates even more strongly with how I believe. The > impossible situation morphs into something different as we do the > best we can to pursue our dreams. Conversely, if we decide soemthing > is impossible it is! I tell this to other people all the time > (sigh). ;-) > > I also can see clearly I am not alone. This group is absolutely > amazing in tone. And judging from the web, this has become a huge > movement with as many subsects as a major religion. It's a far cry > from when I met a few lonely brave Ehretists during my travels in > 1969. Dick gave it a big push too, as I seem to remember. So > goes the evolution of events. > > >From a personal standpoint, I can clearly see this has been finally > moving towards manifestation in my life from the dreams I had > beginning 6 months ago (peopled with rawfoodists), my two friends > going raw and turning their home into a raw food center in my area, > and then my dear sister in another state getting this amazing gift of > a 3-week stay at a raw food institute. My son up north got into > juicing last year, I gave him one as a gift at his request, and > although he is not raw, he became quite evangelical about it. lol How > much more of a message of hope and encouragement can the universe > give me that it is now okay to try to follow my heart and that I can > make a way??? > > Thanks again for the support and the promise of more. > > Peace, > ================================= Well if the universe isn't trying to tell you something then I don't know what is. Yes it is a movement that has been a long time in coming. More and more are finding out how much better their health can be. Yes, Dick did give it a big push. This movement is still in its infancy too. Think of the possibilities that the future holds if it keeps on growing. Peace be with you and we are here if you ever need us. -- Peace, love and light, Don " Quai " Eitner " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " -- In compliance with the highest standards of Universal Law, this email has been thoroughly disinfected and purified in the solar flares of the sun. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.299 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 1/3/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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