Guest guest Posted January 5, 2001 Report Share Posted January 5, 2001 Isnt DMSO something that people talked alot about in the late 70s for arthritis and alot of snowbirds would get in Mexico cos it was so cheap there? Seems I remember that from years ago and then the FDA put out some stuff about it and it dwindled in popularity.....but I guess if it works and has no bad side effects.....Judy in AZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2001 Report Share Posted January 5, 2001 June, You can order some over the Internet that is specific for Human. The kind I used... REALLY... was what we used for the dogs. It was the kind they used for horses. And it was STRONG. I do not advise using this Non Human kind! But it did work. My hands were really bad. And when I used it on the dogs... I was in heaven with the relief! I assume the HUMAN kind they sell, is combined with something to take the " bite " out! My sister had the breast implants years ago. Lots of problems from it. Lupus, FMS, Arthritis... on and on. And she had the DMSO INTRAVENOUS treatments. She felt like a new person. However, the silicone had almost destroyed her veins, and she had to have a portocath put in, so she could have the intravenous treatments. Well, the portocath, after a year or so, had been put in wrong, and it came loose. She had to have it taken out. Therefore, she could have no more intravenous. But the Intravenous DMSO was really helping her, and she even had gone back to work full time! She is back on disability again. That Silicone does a bad, bad thing to your veins, and all your system. I was just wondering if anyone had tried the DMSO on their back or muscles for the FMS, or the joints for their Arthritis. And what results that everyone else had. Susie JUNE wrote: > Hi Susie,I have heard of this being used for arthritis pain but don't > > recall where I heard it. Where do you get this product? Let me know > if > it contimues to help. > > Hugs > June > > eGroups Sponsor [Wireless web technology from Motorola] > > Our websites: http://rheumatoid.arthritis.freehosting.net/ > http://www.rasupport.webprovider.com/ > Change subscription options: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2001 Report Share Posted January 7, 2001 June, I think I read somewhere that it was legal in Canada. I'll check. You may be able to get medical grade. I would be leery to try anything BUT medical grade. Because of the way it carries anything mixed with it into the tissues of the body, if there are any impurities they will be carried into your body. I would love to try it, but am not going to use anything that may have impurities. Since you can get it from your niece, maybe she can get medical quality and get her input as to it's safety. June I only wish I knew if my diagnosis was correct. I am not convinced because of the fact I have no nail involvement, no finger involvement, very little skin involvement, have nodules which are not characteristic of PA, and because I have had whatever I have for 25 years and would think I'd have more conclusive symptoms by now. My feeling say they haven't figured it out yet. Maybe I have a mild case of psoriases, but I don't believe I have psoriatic arthritis. I've been reading until my eyes hurt, so I'll let you know what I think when I read more. a ----- Original Message ----- From: JUNE <juner24@...> onelist < egroups> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 11:30 PM Subject: [ ] DMSO > Thanks a,one of my nieces is a vet in North Bay,maybe she can get me > some. If you say it is safe,then I would try it. > > Sorry,I forgot to ask if your diagnosis of PA is actually confirmed? I > have a nephew who waa diagnosed with PA several years ago. He is going > through a divorce right now and the stress is causing flareups but > normally he does quite well on Celebrix and hyroxychloriquine. > > When you get a chance will you update me on your diagnosis? > > Hugs > June > > Our websites: http://rheumatoid.arthritis.freehosting.net/ > http://www.rasupport.webprovider.com/ > Change subscription options: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 Hi Susie, I've heard of DMSO for arthritis. My boyfriends grandmother told me how it worked wonders for her but you have to be careful with it. I have never used. I have seen it in her med drawer at home. ~Rainy Sue In a message dated 1/4/01 6:00:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, sheadley@... writes: > > Group > I was just sitting here is pain again. And got to thinking WHAT I could > rub on my knees and ankles and hands. > Then it hit me. > When I worked at the Vet, when we would do Heart Worm Treatments, I > would always rub down the dogs arm where the injection went in, with > DMSO. It worked wonders on the muscles and leg and veins where the > strong invasive medicine injections went in. Over the course of the next > few days I did this. (Dogs were kept up to 4 days for treatments.) > My hands never hurt. I commented to my older vet I worked for about > this. He laughed and said that, Yes, it was true. And that he used it on > his arthritic hips. > He said they use it on horses for sore muscles. > You know... I never gave this another thought... until now. > Anyone heard of using DMSO for Arthritis? Or if they use it on horses > muscles, how about muscles in FMS patients? > Susie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 Hi Anne, I read DMSO was used for bladder cancer so surely it must be safe. Have never read anything that would make me be wary of this miracle from God. It saved me from losing four fingers which were crushed and totally non circulating. No bruising, no swelling and while a slight non feeling the next morning, that was all. I remembered reading about a woman who crushed her hand in her car door and used DMSO immediately, which caused her to have no bruising, no swelling or loss of use. If I had an accident that involved trauma and swelling of my brain, would hope to have some DMSO within reach or someone knowledgeable enough to give me some. I take it orally for 20 days, 20 drops or more, for anything that is serious like a bursa problem or tendon problem. It stopped arthritis in my big toe that had been broken and I no longer suffer any problems. It is supposed to be the best thing to use for soft tissue damage if you do it immediately before swelling does damage. I've even read it will reverse a stroke if swelling is involved. Baugh ******************** >> >> I thought DMSO was safe. Anyone know about kidney envolvement? >> Anne > > ================================ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 Anne, I always have it on hand... many times I add it to tinctures or salves I've made or apply it before I put the salve on... sometimes if needed I've taken it orally.. Check the website I listed earlier... Dr. s is the most reasonable price around and he is like the father of DMSO... SuziAnne Bird <irishfox@...> wrote: Thanks, Jean. Your message was very reassuring. Think I'll get some to keep on hand just in case.AnneVA USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 oldglory@... wrote: > Hi Anne, > > I read DMSO was used for bladder cancer so surely it must be safe. Have > never read anything that would make me be wary of this miracle from God. > > It saved me from losing four fingers which were crushed and totally non > circulating. No bruising, no swelling and while a slight non feeling the > next morning, that was all. > > I remembered reading about a woman who crushed her hand in her car > door and > used DMSO immediately, which caused her to have no bruising, no > swelling or > loss of use. > > If I had an accident that involved trauma and swelling of my brain, would > hope to have some DMSO within reach or someone knowledgeable enough to > give > me some. > > I take it orally for 20 days, 20 drops or more, for anything that is > serious > like a bursa problem or tendon problem. > > It stopped arthritis in my big toe that had been broken and I no longer > suffer any problems. > > It is supposed to be the best thing to use for soft tissue damage if > you do > it immediately before swelling does damage. > > I've even read it will reverse a stroke if swelling is involved. > > Baugh ===================== Yup, this is pretty much everything I have heard, read or seen about DMSO. I have used it quite a bit over the last 20 years and have no problems with it. I do believe that the source of this statement comes from one T. Jarvis, PhD. better known as the head quack of National Council Against Health Fraud. This organization is an offshoot of Dr. Stephan Barret, MD of Quackwatch. There is no clinical proof that I have found that supports their theory of health problems created by using DMSO or MSM. -- Peace, love and light, Don " Quai " Eitner " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " -- In compliance with the highest standards of Universal Law, this email has been thoroughly disinfected and purified in the solar flares of the sun. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.290 / Virus Database: 265.6.2 - Release Date: 12/20/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 , I am aware of the Sierra Clinic...and a web search talks about it but I've not found any definite proof on the net of it actually working ... in talking with Dr. s, he says he knows of proven studies that DMSO realigns DNA... so, I don't know for sure whether it does or not... I do know it removes catarachs, and it works with herbs to help heal. I would certainly try it as it couldn't hurt, or at least that is my philosophy. Suzirpadams1@... wrote: I have been doing a little research since I posted my last e-mail and Dr. Shillington says that DMSO will realign DNA back to the original blueprint. It is being used int he Sierra Clinic in Mexico for children with Downs Syndrome.I definitely will have this young mother contact Dr Shillington to check on this as it sounds like it might be just the thing for a child with definite learning disabilities.thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 rpadams1@... wrote: > I have been doing a little research since I posted my last e-mail and > Dr. Shillington says that DMSO will realign DNA back to the original > blueprint. It is being used int he Sierra Clinic in Mexico for > children with Downs Syndrome. > > I definitely will have this young mother contact Dr Shillington to > check on this as it sounds like it might be just the thing for a child > with definite learning disabilities. > > thanks > > ========================== Hi , Yes, Dr. Shillington does suggest this very thing. However, there is no proof. The Sierra Clinic is no more. It doesn't exist. There is no proof that I have been able to find to back up this claim. As I recall, oh, maybe a year ago or so, someone pointedly asked him about that and as I recall he mentioned that there was no proof and that he just assumed that this is what was happening when they were injecting USP grade DMSO into Down's Syndrome children. That was his theory and there was no actual proof. Now I may be wrong on this but it won't hurt your friend to contact Dr. Shillington anyhow. He is quite knowledgeable. -- Peace, love and light, Don " Quai " Eitner " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " -- In compliance with the highest standards of Universal Law, this email has been thoroughly disinfected and purified in the solar flares of the sun. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.302 / Virus Database: 265.7.4 - Release Date: 1/25/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 I don't know about the pharmeceutical grade stuff. I got some in a plastic bottle from the local health food store. Mixed it with lobelia this morning and had it put on my back that was undergoing muscle spasms and it helped a lot to relax things though I got all itchie where it was applied. Don't know if that was due to the DMSO, the evil plastic molecules from the bottle, or the lobelia (lobelia alone hasn't made me itch in the past). But the stuff did work to get the lobelia to target better. I think I'll sniff around for some higher quality DMSO to have on hand. -- In health , MorningGlory113@a... wrote: > Where can I buy pharmaceutical grade DMSO? > Thanks! > > Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 I have used Dr. s and it is as good if not better than what I had previously in a glass bottle... plus it is cheaper than what I had previously bought. Can you mix it with herbal tinctures? It's for a tumor. What would you suggest mixing it with? Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 www.jacoblab.com. > Where can I buy pharmaceutical grade DMSO?> Thanks!> > Gloria Suzi What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. www.onegrp.com/?mamanott organic cosmetics http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Frequently Asked Questions HOL-emblem1-web.GIF (3556 bytes) 24. What is DMSO? Dimethylsulfoxide (DMSO) is a byproduct of wood processing for papermaking. It is a somewhat oily liquid that looks like mineral oil and has a slightly garlicky odor. Because it is an excellent solvent, it is widely used as a degreaser, paint thinner, and antifreeze. However, it also has remarkable therapeutic properties, especially for the healing of injuries. Applying DMSO on sprained ankles, pulled muscles, dislocated joints, and even at the site of simple fractures can virtually eliminate the pain. It also promotes immune system activity. DMSO is absorbed through the skin and enters the bloodstream by osmosis through capillary walls. It is then distributed through the circulatory system, and ultimately is excreted through the urine. It has been used successfully in the treatment of brain and spinal cord damage; arthritis, Down syndrome, sciatica and other back problems, keloids, acne, bums, musculoskeletal problems, sports injuries, cancer, sinusitis, headaches, skin ulcers, herpes, and cataracts. http://1stholistic.com/faq/faq-24.htm > > Where can I buy pharmaceutical grade DMSO? > > Thanks! > > > > Gloria > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 See message 1722 and 222 Kopera <ginakopera1@...> wrote: What is DMSO? Suzi What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. www.onegrp.com/?mamanott organic cosmetics http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 also see www.dmso.org for info.. kitcurtin <kitcurtin@...> wrote: Frequently Asked Questions HOL-emblem1-web.GIF (3556 bytes)24. What is DMSO?Dimethylsulfoxide (DMSO) is a byproduct of wood processing forpapermaking. It is a somewhat oily liquid that looks like mineral oiland has a slightly garlicky odor. Because it is an excellent solvent,it is widely used as a degreaser, paint thinner, and antifreeze.However, it also has remarkable therapeutic properties, especially forthe healing of injuries. Applying DMSO on sprained ankles, pulledmuscles, dislocated joints, and even at the site of simple fracturescan virtually eliminate the pain. It also promotes immune system activity.DMSO is absorbed through the skin and enters the bloodstream byosmosis through capillary walls. It is then distributed through thecirculatory system, and ultimately is excreted through the urine. Ithas been used successfully in the treatment of brain and spinal corddamage; arthritis, Down syndrome, sciatica and other back problems,keloids, acne, bums, musculoskeletal problems, sports injuries,cancer, sinusitis, headaches, skin ulcers, herpes, and cataracts.http://1stholistic.com/faq/faq-24.htm Suzi What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. www.onegrp.com/?mamanott organic cosmetics http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/ Start your day with - make it your home page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 Yep... heard that, been there... lol.. however, it is the type of plastic, The plastic is known as polyethylene.. It is lighter in weight than DMSO and therefore DMSO cannot carry the chemical of it. It is a pharmacutical grade plastic. and yes, I have used Dr. s and it is as good if not better than what I had previously in a glass bottle... plus it is cheaper than what I had previously bought. MorningGlory113@... wrote: Thanks Suzi. I was told that pharmaceutical DMSO should always be in a dark glass bottle. This stuff from that link seems to be the real thing, although it seems to be a clear plastic bottle. Hmmmm....any thoughts? Have you ever used it or any other DMSO? Start your day with - make it your home page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 It says may cause skin irritations too, so that's probably what I reacted to. The link that Suzi sent for 's Labs says you can buy either 50% DMSO solution or 70% from them. They point out that the 70% solution should not be used above the shoulders or in fair skinned people with sensitive skin. It sounds like you got a very concentrated DMSO and apparently, when it's that strong, skin irritation goes with the territory. Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 So far I've used it by itself, internal and external, I have used it with the eyebright formula, the deep tissue oil, anything I need to penetrate deeply. I would caution with some herbs as you're taking this deep into your system.. Think about what you are trying to accomplish and then decide if you wish to add it or not. SuziMorningGlory113@... wrote: Can you mix it with herbal tinctures? It's for a tumor. What would you suggest mixing it with? Suzi What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. www.onegrp.com/?mamanott organic cosmetics http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/ Start your day with - make it your home page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Also think internal, how to get a red clover/burdock mix into your cat. Mix herbs with his food? Not sure. Last year I made quarts and quarts (maybe 16??) of tincture from fresh organic red clover blossoms and also some burdock tincture. I mixed up a concoction of red clover, burdock and pau d'arco tincture and use a syringe and shoot it in his mouth a few times a day. He also gets the Hoxsey formula which has red clover and burdock in it. If I mixed some red clover tincture with some DMSO and applied it externally to the tumor would that work? I don't have anymore of the fresh blossoms. I would like to attack this externally as well as internally. Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 I remember them being the same % as Dr. s at the time.. I talked with Jeff (his son) about it also.. Dr. is the "DMSO" man...or should I say the father of DMSO... I think (MO) that there are some just out to make some big money on it. Suzi PS your website came up empty. kitcurtin <kitcurtin@...> wrote: Suzi, Do you remember what percentage the others were? Any lowdown on how/why Dr. 's differs?I found this and was wonderin'....http://www.kornax.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc? Suzi What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. www.onegrp.com/?mamanott organic cosmetics http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 I would try it... DMSO will taste (to me) somewhat hot and bitter. try a drop on it.MorningGlory113@... wrote: Think about what you are trying to accomplish and then decide if you wish to add it or not.I am trying to get rid of an oral tumor which is in my cat's lower mouth and gum area as well as in the jawbone. The vet gave me some DMSO with added Vit. A, but I don't see Vit. A shrinking a tumor. It doesn't seem to be doing much. I have decided to get a bit more aggressive with it. I don't want something that is going to be real painful, like garlic. But if there are herbs I could add that may shrink a tumor when applied topically, I'll try them. Do you have any suggestions? Can DMSO alone shrink a tumor? Should I apply it a few times a day? I don't know enough about the stuff as I've just been introduced to it. Suzi What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. www.onegrp.com/?mamanott organic cosmetics http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/ Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 It must be an elcheapo brand of dubious quality. It did it's job and got the muscle spasms to stop. I don't think I want to try this one internally though. If I were to work on a tumor, I would gather red clover blossoms, boil them down into a thick black tar, and mix that with the DMSO and apply externally. If I were in the desert southwest I'ld try chaparral. If no red clover I might try garlic juice mix with the DMSO. Also think internal, how to get a red clover/burdock mix into your cat. Mix herbs with his food? Not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Take the tincture and take a little into a glass glass , add a bit of distilled water and a drop or two of DMSO and give kitty a dropperful. MorningGlory113@... wrote: Also think internal, how to get a red clover/burdock mix into your cat. Mix herbs with his food? Not sure.Last year I made quarts and quarts (maybe 16??) of tincture from fresh organic red clover blossoms and also some burdock tincture. I mixed up a concoction of red clover, burdock and pau d'arco tincture and use a syringe and shoot it in his mouth a few times a day. He also gets the Hoxsey formula which has red clover and burdock in it. If I mixed some red clover tincture with some DMSO and applied it externally to the tumor would that work? I don't have anymore of the fresh blossoms. I would like to attack this externally as well as internally.Gloria Suzi What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. www.onegrp.com/?mamanott organic cosmetics http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/ Start your day with - make it your home page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Hi Gloria, Vit. A is essential to healthy skin, mucous membranes and immune function....but no, it won't directly shrink a tumor. Recently, I sent an herb info page " yunnan paiyao " aka " san qi " that is a discutient.... Web definitions for Discutient: An agent that dissolves or causes something, such as a tumor, to disappear " The roots are said to be analgesic, anti-inflammatory, antiphlogistic, antiseptic, astringent, cardiotonic, discutient, diuretic, haemostatic, hypoglycaemic, styptic, tonic and vulnerary[176, 218] " http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:OMazDADQHxIJ:www.ibiblio.org/pfaf/cgi-bin/a\ rr_html%3FPanax%2Bpseudoginseng%2Bnotoginseng%26CAN%3DCOMIND++%22san+qi%22 & hl=en Kit Think about what you are trying to accomplish and then decide if you wish to add it or not. > > I am trying to get rid of an oral tumor which is in my cat's lower mouth and gum area as well as in the jawbone. The vet gave me some DMSO with added Vit. A, but I don't see Vit. A shrinking a tumor. It doesn't seem to be doing much. I have decided to get a bit more aggressive with it. I don't want something that is going to be real painful, like garlic. But if there are herbs I could add that may shrink a tumor when applied topically, I'll try them. Do you have any suggestions? Can DMSO alone shrink a tumor? Should I apply it a few times a day? I don't know enough about the stuff as I've just been introduced to it. > > > > > > Suzi > > What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. > > www.onegrp.com/?mamanott organic cosmetics > http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Yes.. You want to dilute the tincture you are giving him with distilled water.MorningGlory113@... wrote: Take the tincture and take a little into a glass glass , add a bit of distilled water and a drop or two of DMSO and give kitty a dropperful.Suzi, here you are talking giving it to him internally?Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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