Re: [SPAM] Re: Re: Why would a company not put together a pill for autoimmune disorders?

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Wow there are so many morbidly obese people and people with binge eating disorders that this may benefit. This may be an answer to many people's prayers.

From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Walter HoffmannSent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:26 AMlow dose naltrexone Subject: [sPAM] Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Why would a company not put together a pill for autoimmune disorders?

http://ihealthbulletin.com/blog/2007/10/26/contrave-weight-loss-drug-combo-how-it-works/

Try this one.

The drug name is Contrave it a combination of bupropion plus naltrexone.amaestro4u <amaestro4u > wrote:

Hey Red, it may just be me, but I can't get that link to work...

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I have been following the LDN group and the websites with much interest.

Recently diagnosed with Crohn's disease and am looking for something

relatively safe to treat what is apparently pretty serious condition. What

I haven't been clear on is the mechanism of how LDN works.

I see that it is working for many people. But if Crohn's disease is thought

to be due to an overactive immune response in the digestive tract and if LDN

stimulates the immune system further is that safe?

Any comments appreciated.

Thanks and have a good day,

Suzanne

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Welcome Suzanne,

I just sent you over about 1/4th of the saved chats I have that people talk about how they think LDN works.

If you want the rest, let me know

Aletha

[sPAM] Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Why would a company not > put together a pill for autoimmune disorders?> > > > > http://ihealthbulle><http://ihealthbulletin.com/blog/2007/10/26/contrave-weight-loss-drug-combo-> how-it-works/>>tin.com/blog/2007/10/26/contrave-weight-loss-drug-combo-how-it-works/> > Try this one.> The drug name is Contrave it a combination of bupropion plus > naltrexone.> > amaestro4u <amaestro4u > wrote:> > Hey Red, it may just be me, but I can't get that link to work...> > > > > >

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What I suppose you mean is the Metabolic treatment of autoimmune diseases. T1 and T2 are thyroid hormones aren't they?

That's what I am kind of doing for my fibro. I want to get somewhere with that before I try low dose naltrexson. I just noticed that someone is spending $45 a month on the stuff. LDN helps but is it enough?

Just my 2 cents.

ann

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one way to see it is to say that when you get crohn your immune system is out of balance.the LDN helps to regulate it.if you want to know more you must look for the the T1 and T2 theory with relation to the autoimmune.> > > > Hey Red, it may just be me, but I can't get that link to work...> > > > > > > > > > > >>

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T1 and T2 are immune cells.

--- ann <maryannbpeterson@...>

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> What I suppose you mean is the Metabolic treatment

> of autoimmune diseases. T1 and T2 are thyroid

> hormones aren't they?

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> That's what I am kind of doing for my fibro. I want

> to get somewhere with that before I try low dose

> naltrexson. I just noticed that someone is spending

> $45 a month on the stuff. LDN helps but is it

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> You probably aren't aware that in high doses naltrexone is being misapplied> by Big Pharma. It's actually known to induce high speed cell proliferation> in pre-cancerous conditions.

Could someone justify this statement - what exactly do you mean and where did you read it,

Thanks

Celia

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It makes sense to me.

Think about it. By taking a little tiny bit of Naltrexone (thus LDN-low dose) you block your endorphins for a short period of time and your body is tricked into producing a large number of endorphins.

Now if you take a large amount of Naltrexone (50mg or so) then your block your endorphins all day long. You should have the opposite effect and your body might suffer from not having endorphins.

I wonder if large dosage of Naltrexone would be considered an immune suppressant? I know nothing about chemistry, so just my very limited non-medical an non-scientific thoughts.

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> You probably aren't aware that in high doses naltrexone is being misapplied> by Big Pharma. It's actually known to induce high speed cell proliferation> in pre-cancerous conditions.

Could someone justify this statement - what exactly do you mean and where did you read it,

Thanks

Celia

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Hi Celia,

In high doses naltrexone has an effect which is

opposite to

the low dose effect. If someone taking HDN for

alcoholism,

say, has a precancerous condition that condition will

be

accelerated by HDN. The OGF/OGFr axis which in LDN

turns

off the switch in the cell cycle preventing cell

proliferation,

in HDN that same mechanism causes the switch to be

turned

on.

I'll go through my papers and I'll send whatever links

I have

but I fear I have mainly PDFs so I'll send those to

you privately.

Jaco

--- CELIA DANKS <celia@...> wrote:

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> > You probably aren't aware that in high doses

> naltrexone is being

> misapplied

> > by Big Pharma. It's actually known to induce high

> speed cell

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> Could someone justify this statement - what exactly

> do you mean and where did you read it,

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