Re: help me rid myself of systemic yeast

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Go here:

http://tinyurl.com/48ds6l

Art

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> Now I know why my LDN quit working!

> I had an abscess and was given three rounds of antibiotics and

followed by

> the fact that my dentist will not do my dental cleaning unless I

take

> antibiotics before hand due to metal implants. Obviously candida

overgrowth occurred.

> Now my LDN is not working so I need help to get back to were I

was before

> candida.

>

>

>

> Any suggestions? The Internet has too many choices and I want to

narrow it

> down to what really works....

>

> Thanks

> ivy

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Isn't LDN supposed to help your immune system? I would think that

this means it can help your body fight candida. Has this not been the

case for everybody?

> > Now I know why my LDN quit working!

> > I had an abscess and was given three rounds of antibiotics and

> followed by

> > the fact that my dentist will not do my dental cleaning unless I

> take

> > antibiotics before hand due to metal implants. Obviously candida

> overgrowth occurred.

> > Now my LDN is not working so I need help to get back to were I

> was before

> > candida.

> >

> >

> >

> > Any suggestions? The Internet has too many choices and I want to

> narrow it

> > down to what really works....

> >

> > Thanks

> > ivy

>

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THANX PETER AND ART - INFO ABOUT CANDIDA & YEAST

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A major "problem" around getting rid of Candida Albicans is that our immnunesysten do not consider this yeast as an "enemy" as it is a natural part of the intestinal flora, normally existing in balance with all the other "occupants" - thus even a well functioning immunesystem will NOT attack C. Albicans!! The problem arrives the moment this balance is disturbed, e.g. by antibiotics killing other (vital) bacteria randomly, making room for C. Albicans overgrowth (other reasons are possible, see link below) - this may in turn lead to C. Albicans change state to be INVASIVE (changing from being a yeast to act like a fungus) - much much more about this subject on the page that Art gave us - http://tinyurl.com/48ds6l - a VERY INFORMATIVE PAGE

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Well , that makes even more sense.

Thanks

[low dose naltrexone] Re: help me rid myself of systemic yeast

A major "problem" around getting rid of Candida Albicans is that our immnunesysten do not consider this yeast as an "enemy" as it is a natural part of the intestinal flora, normally existing in balance with all the other "occupants" - thus even a well functioning immunesystem will NOT attack C. Albicans!! The problem arrives the moment this balance is disturbed, e.g. by antibiotics killing other (vital) bacteria randomly, making room for C. Albicans overgrowth (other reasons are possible, see link below) - this may in turn lead to C. Albicans change state to be INVASIVE (changing from being a yeast to act like a fungus) - much much more about this subject on the page that Art gave us - http://tinyurl.com/48ds6l - a VERY INFORMATIVE PAGE

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LDN does nothing to reduce/eliminate Candida. Yeast overgrowth can

lessen the effects of LDN.

http://tinyurl.com/48ds6l

Art

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> Isn't LDN supposed to help your immune system? I would think that

> this means it can help your body fight candida. Has this not been the

> case for everybody?

>

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Has anyone tried the Monolaurin for yeast? Did it help?

> >

> > Isn't LDN supposed to help your immune system? I would think that

> > this means it can help your body fight candida. Has this not been

the

> > case for everybody?

> >

>

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Haven't tried it.

I used Candida Cleanse but it was too strong for me. Now I use

Pau D'Arco (been on it for 5 months) and it really has helped. I got really (in bed) sick for the first 2 weeks from die off but feel great now. The last time I did the saliva test it showed very little yeast. I'm sure I'll take Pau D'Arco forever.........even if I don't have yeast overgrowth it's still good for me. Diet changes are a must also!!

My homeopathic doc says she likes Pau D'Arco best of all the natural yeast products. It's not as expensive as most of the others too. With all the supplements I take now saving some on any of them really helps.Take Care,TonetteRRMS since 1996, SPMS since 2007Rocky Mountains, Colorado

From: grball628 <Angie@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: help me rid myself of systemic yeastlow dose naltrexone Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 1:15 AM

Has anyone tried the Monolaurin for yeast? Did it help?> >> > Isn't LDN supposed to help your immune system? I would think that > > this means it can help your body fight candida. Has this not been the > > case for everybody?>

>>

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This sort of sounds like the " kitchen sink " approach to candida

diagnosis and behavior. Is there any serious medical research

supporting what is written on the tinyurl page that you quote?

>

> A major " problem " around getting rid of Candida Albicans is that

our immnunesysten do not consider this yeast as an " enemy " as it is a

natural part of the intestinal flora, normally existing in balance

with all the other " occupants " - thus even a well functioning

immunesystem will NOT attack C. Albicans!! The problem arrives the

moment this balance is disturbed, e.g. by antibiotics killing other

(vital) bacteria randomly, making room for C. Albicans overgrowth

(other reasons are possible, see link below) - this may in turn lead

to C. Albicans change state to be INVASIVE (changing from being a

yeast to act like a fungus) - much much more about this subject on

the page that Art gave us - http://tinyurl.com/48ds6l - a VERY

INFORMATIVE PAGE

>

>

>

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Cyndi,

Where can I get those "pearl like" probiotics? Do they have a specific name?

Thanks for all you do!

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Toni,

If you read my earlier posting you can see that I was doing great on LDN until recently when I had to take a round of antibiotics for a tick bite and at the same time had a tooth abscess that overlapped another two rounds of antibiotics. Most females will attest that you can almost guarantee a vaginal yeast infection (even my OBGYN) will automatically write a script for that just in case).

Once I had candida overgrowth (vaginal, thrush, and tons of symptoms) my LDN quit working. Now that I am taking care of the candida ( thanks to all for your postings/help) is that LDN has kicked back in.

Hope this helps

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Thanks for the info. Do you have a particular brand you prefer? Do

you drink the tea, take capsules?

> > >

> > > Isn't LDN supposed to help your immune system? I would think

that

> > > this means it can help your body fight candida. Has this not

been

> the

> > > case for everybody?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The brand I take is NOW capsules. I take 4 a day which is 2000 mg. Take Care,TonetteRRMS since 1996, SPMS since 2007Rocky Mountains, Colorado

From: grball628 <Angie@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: help me rid myself of systemic yeastlow dose naltrexone Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 12:23 PM

Thanks for the info. Do you have a particular brand you prefer? Do you drink the tea, take capsules?> > >> > > Isn't LDN supposed to help your immune system? I would think that > > > this means it can help your body fight candida. Has this not been > the > > > case for everybody?> > >> >>

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I am also looking for some medical research that supports the candida

overgrowth claims that are raised on many of the websites (even that

it causes cancer). There do seem to people who report that LDN works

better when they take anti-yeast supplements, but how do we know it's

not just the LDN beginning to work? (LDN didn't begin to really make

a difference for me until I was on it for two months and.) The

candida overgrowth issue seems to be very controversial. I want to

keep an open mind about it but when I look at the list of symptoms

that get attributed to candida overgrowth, it seems like everyone on

the planet would suffer from it. In addition, I've looked at some of

the supplements (from Yeast Fighters to Candidase) and they all seem

to have different ingredients. Finally, I know a lot of people who

have taken antibiotics who are in great health. Any feedback would be

appreciated.

Toni

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if you are doing fine on ldn alone that is fine.if you seek

improvement try the treatment of candida.the regluar doctors do not

recognize candida as a problem.they do not recognize also adrenal

fatigue.only the alternative medecine believes in candida as a cause

of many problems ,and they do not have the money for

research.therefore you must go after results of treating candida.as

you look for that you will find many success stories.

>

> I am also looking for some medical research that supports the

candida

> overgrowth claims that are raised on many of the websites (even

that

> it causes cancer). There do seem to people who report that LDN

works

> better when they take anti-yeast supplements, but how do we know

it's

> not just the LDN beginning to work? (LDN didn't begin to really

make

> a difference for me until I was on it for two months and.) The

> candida overgrowth issue seems to be very controversial. I want to

> keep an open mind about it but when I look at the list of symptoms

> that get attributed to candida overgrowth, it seems like everyone

on

> the planet would suffer from it. In addition, I've looked at some

of

> the supplements (from Yeast Fighters to Candidase) and they all

seem

> to have different ingredients. Finally, I know a lot of people who

> have taken antibiotics who are in great health. Any feedback would

be

> appreciated.

>

> Toni

>

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i have a different take on this whole thing. I think we really screw up our stomachs over a life time with all kinds of stuff. we've all taken antibiotics and who knows what else that  really messes with our GI tracts. add that to the fact that the bulk of immune systems in down in there it would make good sense to take optimal care of our stomachs-all of us. I have a little protocol that i recommend to people not just you guys but it seems to put things back in order1. aloe juice for 2 weeks heals your insides2. Probiotics for two weeksand it doesn't matter. I like those pearls -like probiotic pearls only because it makes sense that they go through the stomach past all the juices to where they need to be and opens up. ( reminds me of that movie FANTASTIC JOUNEY)3. digestive enzymes with the evening meal-really helps especially those that wake up in the middle of the night with wicked heartburn.and then after that - adjust as needed. I have not had one bit of heartburn in over a year- i threw my tums away. it also makes sense because if your gi tract is not in order then your not going to absorb your nutrients and therefore become malnourished and that leads to even worse health. does that make sense to you guys? Cyndi Lenzpsychrn@...clenz@...http://www.tdgr2productions.comwww.skipspharmacy.com On Jun 16, 2008, at 11:05 AM, toni@... wrote:I am also looking for some medical research that supports the candida overgrowth claims that are raised on many of the websites (even that it causes cancer). There do seem to people who report that LDN works better when they take anti-yeast supplements, but how do we know it's not just the LDN beginning to work? (LDN didn't begin to really make a difference for me until I was on it for two months and.) The candida overgrowth issue seems to be very controversial. I want to keep an open mind about it but when I look at the list of symptoms that get attributed to candida overgrowth, it seems like everyone on the planet would suffer from it. In addition, I've looked at some of the supplements (from Yeast Fighters to Candidase) and they all seem to have different ingredients. Finally, I know a lot of people who have taken antibiotics who are in great health. Any feedback would be appreciated.Toni

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Is there any serious medical research

> supporting what is written on the tinyurl page that you quote?

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The stool test and the live blood analysis test are legit medical

tests, they are listed in that tiny url. The spit test is not a legit

test.

Most of the supplements listed in that tiny url are from 3 medical

professionals. Some things that are listed are what others have tried

and been helped. I feel the best candida fighting protocol is by Dr.

McCandless and Dr. Balch and Phyllis Balch, C.N.C and in that

tiny url protocol, these professional's treatments for candida yeast

overgrowth are listed.

You can find the Balch's candida yeast overgrowth remedy suggestions

in their book, Prescription for Nutritional Healing, 2nd(blue book),

3rd editions(maroon book).

Dr. Jaquelyn McCandless' protocol on her forums. We've seen many of

her autistic patients and crohn's patients improve on her protocol.

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Probiotic Pearlsat phytopharmicahttp://www.phytopharmica.com/go/Phytopharmica/productDetail.aspx?alias=Phytopharmica & tabalias=productDetail & partcode=14293 & sc=Truethey have a list on their web page of the pharmacies that sell these. and please, I  dont  want anyone to think im trying to sell you guys vitamins - there's a whole list  for you to pick and choose from so support whom ever you want. and the melatonin i was talking about is called Source Naturals 1 mgi have to buy it somewhere else because i cant get it through my distributer. and your very welcome. Its my pleasure. cyndi Cyndi Lenzpsychrn@...clenz@...http://www.tdgr2productions.com On Jun 16, 2008, at 11:51 AM, nadasuit@... wrote:Cyndi,Where can I get those "pearl like" probiotics? Do they have a specific name?Thanks for all you do!ivyVote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008.

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I did the so-called " spit test " for yeast overgrowth. The results

were mixed/confusing. I decided to assume I have a problem anyway and

have been treating myself with supplements and careful diet. I have

nothing to lose doing this and everything to gain. My toenail fungus

has slowly been clearing up, my bowels are regular, so I feel my

efforts are well worth it.

Mainstream medical research will say an overgrowth of Candida

Albicans is nonsense.

Art

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-- In low dose naltrexone , toni@... wrote:

>

> I am also looking for some medical research that supports the

candida

> overgrowth claims that are raised on many of the websites (even

that

> it causes cancer). There do seem to people who report that LDN

works

> better when they take anti-yeast supplements, but how do we know

it's

> not just the LDN beginning to work? (LDN didn't begin to really

make

> a difference for me until I was on it for two months and.) The

> candida overgrowth issue seems to be very controversial. I want to

> keep an open mind about it but when I look at the list of symptoms

> that get attributed to candida overgrowth, it seems like everyone

on

> the planet would suffer from it. In addition, I've looked at some

of

> the supplements (from Yeast Fighters to Candidase) and they all

seem

> to have different ingredients. Finally, I know a lot of people who

> have taken antibiotics who are in great health. Any feedback would

be

> appreciated.

>

> Toni

>

[Guest guest]

Makes sense to me.

I liked Raquel Welch in that movie.

Art

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>

> > I am also looking for some medical research that supports the

candida

> > overgrowth claims that are raised on many of the websites (even

that

> > it causes cancer). There do seem to people who report that LDN

works

> > better when they take anti-yeast supplements, but how do we know

it's

> > not just the LDN beginning to work? (LDN didn't begin to really

make

> > a difference for me until I was on it for two months and.) The

> > candida overgrowth issue seems to be very controversial. I want to

> > keep an open mind about it but when I look at the list of symptoms

> > that get attributed to candida overgrowth, it seems like everyone

on

> > the planet would suffer from it. In addition, I've looked at some

of

> > the supplements (from Yeast Fighters to Candidase) and they all

seem

> > to have different ingredients. Finally, I know a lot of people who

> > have taken antibiotics who are in great health. Any feedback

would be

> > appreciated.

> >

> > Toni

> >

> >

>

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Toni, due to this yeast problems:

I know that it's quite common having this when you have IBD; Crohns or Ulcerative Colitis. I am quite sure I have had it for years, I have btw Crohns, and I know that when I started to use LDN in conjunction to a special yogurt (SCD yogurt from the SCD diet), my yeast problems slowly dissapeared. I couldn't eat any sweets or cakes without having an itchy butt!

I think LDN and the yogurt actually helped me getting rid of the yeast,

because I don't react at all to sugar now.

Ingrid

[low dose naltrexone] Re: help me rid myself of systemic yeastI am also looking for some medical research that supports the candida overgrowth claims that are raised on many of the websites (even that it causes cancer). There do seem to people who report that LDN works better when they take anti-yeast supplements, but how do we know it's not just the LDN beginning to work? (LDN didn't begin to really make a difference for me until I was on it for two months and.) The candida overgrowth issue seems to be very controversial. I want to keep an open mind about it but when I look at the list of symptoms that get attributed to candida overgrowth, it seems like everyone on

the planet would suffer from it. In addition, I've looked at some of the supplements (from Yeast Fighters to Candidase) and they all seem to have different ingredients. Finally, I know a lot of people who have taken antibiotics who are in great health. Any feedback would be appreciated.Toni------------------------------------

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ha ha art. i think every red blooded male liked her!i would also like to say-people have different takes on this issue. I like to take simplest easiest road that I think people can do without too much brain pain and have some kind of success -its pretty simple and straight forward and doesn't cost a fortune.it doesn't mean that other opinions are wrong -its just another way of looking at things.and speaking of looking at things The doctor interviews from the ldn conference has over a thousand hits-holy moly!! you guys rockhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAZ1fQKdOC8its part of my most viewed video ihttp://www.youtube.com/user/TropicalDawgcyndi On Jun 16, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Art wrote:Makes sense to me.I liked Raquel Welch in that movie.Art----. 

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To gwayles...

You are qiuite right - I did'nt quote any other sources than Art's page - her is MUCH MUCH MORE to chew on - there will be reading for DAYS, if you follow link's and sub link's to these page: http://candidapage.com/ and this: http://web.archive.org/web/20020802012431/www.infosky.net/~alexmi/candida.htm and this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candida_albicans - and "filter" all this information to your preference, as it may contain both "serial technical stuff" and some issues you may refer to as the "kitchen sink approach" - but I think theese pages will confirm my statement(s) so far...

Have a nice reading...

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Hi,

Just wanted to tell you that I bought the acidophilus pearls in CVS

pharmacy....their own CVS brand. It cost $9.99 for I think 30 pills.

Bobbie

>

> Cyndi,

> Where can I get those " pearl like " probiotics? Do they have a

specific name?

> Thanks for all you do!

> ivy

>

>

>

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Hello All,

Just wondering, is the stool test definitive? I had a stool test for

candida back in March and it came back negative. I don't think I have

any candida symptoms except some discolored spots on my chest that

fade when I apply coconut oil. I've been on LDN for about 2.5 months

now and am not sure if it's working. Me head feels clearer, my mood

is better and I have almost no more headaches but I'm not sure if it's

the LDN or just that I'm no longer taking Rebif?

I was just thinking that if candida prevents the LDN from working and

I'm not noticing much - could I have candida even though the stool

test came back negative?

Just a thought - thanks all,

> Is there any serious medical research

> > supporting what is written on the tinyurl page that you quote?

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>

> The stool test and the live blood analysis test are legit medical

> tests, they are listed in that tiny url. The spit test is not a legit

> test.