Guest guest Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 A whole house water filter. Mine will be installed on Monday. I can't wait.LinnOn Dec 14, 2006, at 12:16 PM, Zoe & wrote:Has anyone discovered how to take hot baths without the fluoride? Zoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Dare I ask how much?? What did you buy. I want one so bad! Re: Detoxing Baths A whole house water filter. Mine will be installed on Monday. I can't wait. Linn On Dec 14, 2006, at 12:16 PM, Zoe & wrote: Has anyone discovered how to take hot baths without the fluoride? Zoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 > > A whole house water filter. Mine will be installed on Monday. I can't wait. -----> Where did you find one that will filter out fluoride. I've talked and looked everywhere and it's very controversial as to what exactly is filtered out. I'm very curious! I want one too Lynn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 ,Actually the price was not that bad. When I first starting researching water filters, I didn't investigate the whole house filters too extensively because most of the prices I found were several thousand $$, some upwards of $8K for a house the size of mine. I ended up finding one through the distributor here from Mountain Valley Spring Water, who custom builds his own. When he found out about the fluoride problem here, he custom built a special fluoride filter for me to make sure we would be able to filter out the excess fluoride we have in the community here. Ended up being about $1700 and installation will cost between $350-$500, so I didn't think it was too bad. The plumber I hired was very impressed with the unit. My worries were more for my daughter than anything. She loves to take baths and I have cut her off from doing that much, or at least long ones until we got rid of the problem. We've had quite a few women in the neighborhood develop thyroid problems and just last week one of the neighbors was diagnosed with terminal pancreatic cancer. It would be very interesting to collect some data and find out what else is going on.LinnOn Dec 14, 2006, at 8:17 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote:Dare I ask how much?? What did you buy. I want one so bad! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Lynn,The guy who built it for me is here in Texas. He used to work in the plastics industry until his wife got sick with immune system problems. It took a couple of months for him to design the fluoride filter. He wanted to make sure since our levels were so high here that the filter would handle getting rid of it all. LinnOn Dec 14, 2006, at 8:28 PM, Lynn wrote:> > A whole house water filter. Mine will be installed on Monday. Ican't wait.-----> Where did you find one that will filter out fluoride. I'vetalked and looked everywhere and it's very controversial as to whatexactly is filtered out.I'm very curious! I want one tooLynn>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 What brand are you using and how much was it? On Dec 14, 2006, at 5:26 PM, Linn wrote: > A whole house water filter. Mine will be installed on Monday. I > can't wait. > > Linn > > On Dec 14, 2006, at 12:16 PM, Zoe & wrote: > >> >> Has anyone discovered how to take hot baths without the fluoride? >> Zoe Parashis artpages@... zine: artpagesonline.com portfolio: http://www.artpagesonline.com/EPportfolio/000portfolio.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Loretta,I think you know him, it's Al Mc of Amac Water, 713-937-8630, distributors for Mountain Valley Spring. He didn't guarantee 100% removal of the fluoride, but thinks it will get most of it out. He's going to monitor it and do some testing for us to check exactly how well it's working. We have a major problem in our area with a screw up by the water company in the amount of fluoride that was added to our water. They're putting in some alumination equipment but the only thing we've heard so far is that it may take up to a year to get the problem sorted out. I wasn't willing to wait any longer. The info I found on RO whole house filters stated that those are able to filter out fluoride. I'm just not thrilled with the RO process. LinnOn Dec 14, 2006, at 11:08 PM, Dr. Loretta Lanphier wrote:Hi Linn Can you send me his name and info off-list? I have been told over and over and over that there is no such filter that will adequately filter fluoride, so I am very interested to speak with him. Thanks!Loretta Lanphier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Sorry, hit the wrong button to reply, meant to send this to Loretta's email.LinnOn Dec 15, 2006, at 8:22 AM, Linn wrote:Loretta,I think you know him, it's Al Mc of Amac Water, 713-937-8630, distributors for Mountain Valley Spring. He didn't guarantee 100% removal of the fluoride, but thinks it will get most of it out. He's going to monitor it and do some testing for us to check exactly how well it's working. We have a major problem in our area with a screw up by the water company in the amount of fluoride that was added to our water. They're putting in some alumination equipment but the only thing we've heard so far is that it may take up to a year to get the problem sorted out. I wasn't willing to wait any longer. The info I found on RO whole house filters stated that those are able to filter out fluoride. I'm just not thrilled with the RO process. LinnOn Dec 14, 2006, at 11:08 PM, Dr. Loretta Lanphier wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Lynn,I don't think it's alumina, I can call and ask though. I remember discussing that with him because that's what the local water company is going to be using to clean up the fluoride in our water here. They made a big deal about ordering $1 million worth of aluminating equipment, (don't you know that cost will passed on to us!!) When I looked that up, I wasn't thrilled with that either. Yes, they will be doing testing. We're not sure due to high fluoride content of the water what the life of the filter will be especially until the water company resolves the problem, so we may be going through filters faster until that problem is solved.LinnOn Dec 15, 2006, at 5:47 AM, Lynn wrote:> The guy who built it for me is here in Texas. He used to work in the > plastics industry until his wife got sick with immune system > problems. It took a couple of months for him to design the fluoride > filter. He wanted to make sure since our levels were so high here > that the filter would handle getting rid of it all.>-----> What's the media in your fluoride filter? Do you know if it'salumina?I've talked to a number of water companies and couldn't come up with asatisfactory answer on fluoride reduction. Does this company have independent testing done over the life of thefilter?Thanks,Lynn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Its very important for the health of everyone that we all push back on our towns to stop poisoning the water. Actually, getting involved in town politics can be very rewarding, really! Re: Detoxing Baths Outside of a full house filtration system - NO. I wish. Detoxing Baths Ok, I go the info from my mom on what Dr. Nusbaum told her to do. 6 oz cups of Dead Sea Salts in waist deep water in the bathtub and to sit in it for 10 minutes daily Dr. Brownstein told me to do 1 cup of Epsom salts with 1 cup of hydrogen peroxide Dr N is also having my mom take 1 tsp Buffered C Powder with 1 tsp Baking Soda (aluminum free) for additional detox. Dr. B has me taking 4 tsp Buffered C powder. So you can see that they are very different in protocol but maybe one works better for some than others. B. Read my ThyCa Journey Blog: http://ds-ladybugsandbees.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Hi, I've just begun looking at floride filtration .... and I'm assuming that the products by Aquaspace are not thought of too highly by those of you who have been researching this for some time? Thanks, Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Part of the problem with filtering out fluoride is the rate the water flows at. The ready made fluoride filters do a good job at a very slow rate, but that's not feasible in how we all use our water, so the amount of fluoride that you actually filter out is maybe half. Depending on how much fluoride is in the water, you can still end up with quite a bit in your water, as in our case. I found 2 people here in Texas that were experts at water filtration and spoke with both of them at length regarding my problem. Heard the same info from both of them. I'd advise trying to find someone who's very knowledgeable and get their opinion first before buying one. There are many variables.LinnOn Dec 15, 2006, at 10:30 AM, E Silver wrote:Hi, I've just begun looking at floride filtration .... and I'm assuming that the products by Aquaspace are not thought of too highly by those of you who have been researching this for some time? Thanks, Liz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 You can get one relatively inexpensive. I just bought a sediment filter and a charcoal filter for $250 total. Then had to have a plumber come install. The filters are relatively small, so I need to change them monthly, but I would do that anyway, as I suspect bacteria. Best,http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.comhttp://www.CurlyRescue.comView my Blog ~ http://shellyct.blogspot.com/ If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us. -- Hermann Hesse Dare I ask how much?? What did you buy. I want one so bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 You can also rent them from Culligan, for about $25 per month. Best,http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.comhttp://www.CurlyRescue.comView my Blog ~ http://shellyct.blogspot.com/ If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us. -- Hermann Hesse Dare I ask how much?? What did you buy. I want one so bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 I can narrow it down to a couple of very simple categories... 1) Already too sick to get involved. 2) Too busy robbing to pay for the " lifestyle " that needs to be maintained, as encouraged by the banking industry. 3) Not educated enough to realize its import. I don't mean " book learning " or higher education necessarily, but rather an amazing lack of critical thinking. This is the essence of the dumbing down process. Actively discourage critical thinking...the masses are SO much easier to deal with that way! I don't say any of these to be critical or harsh. I am in category 1 & 2. But due to #1 I've recently left category #3 and joined the crackpot category. It ain't easy explaining to people how an entire society can be so damn corrupt without their implicit knowledge...a few short months ago I would have thought I was an extremeist crackpot too! Warmly, > > > > Its very important for the health of everyone that we all push back on our towns to stop poisoning the water. Actually, getting involved in town politics can be very rewarding, really! > > > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 ,That's okay, you can always use one of my favorite quotes to get people to utilize their brains. "If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking." S. PattonLinnOn Dec 16, 2006, at 11:44 AM, angesc2001 wrote:I don't say any of these to be critical or harsh. I am in category 1 & 2. But due to #1 I've recently left category #3 and joined thecrackpot category. It ain't easy explaining to people how an entiresociety can be so damn corrupt without their implicit knowledge...afew short months ago I would have thought I was an extremeist crackpottoo!Warmly, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 >From: " angesc2001 " <AngInfoHound@...> >I can narrow it down to a couple of very simple categories... > >1) Already too sick to get involved. Easier to get sick if they put mercury in your mouth, pesticides on your food, and even genetically modify it to hold more pesticide, and fluoride in your water. They'll lower your cholesterol with drugs, without bothering to tell you if you go out into the sun, your cholesterol goes down because it turns to Vitamin C, or they used to treat high cholesterol with thyroid medication, because it's a sign of a bad thyroid. They'll not only lower it, they want to lower it beyond what is healthy, as cholesterol is needed for life. No, the people in charge aren't just stupid. (Well some of them are. As is the general population. In 2004, we elected a president who had trouble putting coherent sentences together, so we're all kind of dumb...but, many of us know under the current system who we elect doesn't really matter.) > >2) Too busy robbing to pay for the " lifestyle " that needs >to be maintained, as encouraged by the banking industry. A crackpot might say - Feminsim was a plot to get women to be more like men, by manipulating them into thinking they should be working. That way, Daycare and the State gets to raise the children. Also, if the normal family has a stay at home mom, and makes $30,000 a year and they live in a $30,000 house, and suddenly mom goes to work because all the other women are suddenly driven to work, and in fact they are given hiring preference and if their husband gets laid off he won't be so able to find work anymore, , and so now the standard household makes $45,000 a year with two working parents, the price of the normal house now jumps up to $45,000 because every family has more money to spend. Did you see the trick in there? Instead of Mom taking care of things while Dad is gone, so every body can have a little leisure time, and there's always a parent around for the children, Mom went to work so the family would have more money. In the short term it worked, but in the long term all the standard families had more money, the supply of real estate is limited and people need to spend their money on it, so instead of more leisure time in real dollars the price of housing just skyrocketed. The economists weren't dumb when they decided to mandate that companies hire women and minorities first. Ultimately, it lowered real wages for everyone. And took away leisure time. Maybe they planned it so " we could be more competitive in the global market. " > >3) Not educated enough to realize its import. I don't mean " book >learning " or higher education necessarily, but rather an amazing lack >of critical thinking. This is the essence of the dumbing down >process. Actively discourage critical thinking...the masses are SO >much easier to deal with that way! That's right. so - They fluoridate the water Give us pesticide ridden crops when organic may be able to yield as much (or so some say.), PUt mercury in our mouth and tell us it's OK Put mercury in vaccines, which you're still likely to have your child exposed to, even if it's called mercury free, Put mercury in flu shots, which aren't good for you anyway, but the local news almost appears to be doing product placement commercials for the vaccine companies. Tell us supplements don't do anything, you can get all the vitamins from food, Tell us Vitamin C can't cure anything, Tell us genetically modified crops are good, Tell us no one in America is deficient in iodine. >I don't say any of these to be critical or harsh. I am in category 1 > & 2. But due to #1 I've recently left category #3 and joined the >crackpot category. It ain't easy explaining to people how an entire >society can be so damn corrupt without their implicit knowledge...a >few short months ago I would have thought I was an extremeist crackpot >too! If you look, it's easy to see there's a very unpleasant big picture going on. The social engineeriing which hasn't been good for anyone is easy to see. The only thing difficult to see is who' or whats really behind it. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.\ live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create & wx_url=/friends.aspx & mk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Im not sure which category I fit in at the moment. I just feel like a sleeper recently awakened, but still too dumb to know what to do about it. zoe Saturday, December 16, 2006, 9:44:53 AM, you wrote: I can narrow it down to a couple of very simple categories... 1) Already too sick to get involved. 2) Too busy robbing to pay for the "lifestyle" that needs to be maintained, as encouraged by the banking industry. 3) Not educated enough to realize its import. I don't mean "book learning" or higher education necessarily, but rather an amazing lack of critical thinking. This is the essence of the dumbing down process. Actively discourage critical thinking...the masses are SO much easier to deal with that way! I don't say any of these to be critical or harsh. I am in category 1 & 2. But due to #1 I've recently left category #3 and joined the crackpot category. It ain't easy explaining to people how an entire society can be so damn corrupt without their implicit knowledge...a few short months ago I would have thought I was an extremeist crackpot too! Warmly, > Its very important for the health of everyone that we all push back on our towns to stop poisoning the water. Actually, getting involved in town politics can be very rewarding, really! > > . Iodine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 >From: zoe W <ilovegrafix@...> > Im not sure which category I fit in at the moment. I just feel like a >sleeper recently >awakened, but still too dumb to know what to do about it. >zoe Yes, that's the problem. We don't really know what's going on or who's behind it. Medicine is a large part of the problem. It should have been standing up and shouting how bad smoking was for us, instead of doing paid advertisements even saying it was good for a sore throat. They should've protested when fluoride was talked about being added to the water. Especially, since they were supposed to have a 10 or 15 year study of the health effects of water flouridation on two Michigan cities, Instead of contining the test, the control city simply added fluoride to their water supply?? The doctors should have been loudly protesting back then. They should be protesting about genetically modified foods. Instead how they care about is making money from pushing the drugs. I guess, as Oprah said, 1% of the country now owns more than the bottom 90%. They certainly must exert an awful lot of control, in the background. They seem to want everything they have, and the middle class. Otherwise, they would have been protecting us in globalization. But, when you're an " American " but live all over the world, it's kind of hard to have loyalty. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.\ live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create & wx_url=/friends.aspx & mk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 > > > > >2) Too busy robbing to pay for the " lifestyle " that needs > >to be maintained, as encouraged by the banking industry. > > A crackpot might say - > > Feminsim was a plot to get women to be more like men, by manipulating them > into thinking they should be working. That way, Daycare and the State gets > to raise the children. Also, if the normal family has a stay at home mom, > and makes $30,000 a year and they live in a $30,000 house, and suddenly mom > goes to work because all the other women are suddenly driven to work, and in > fact they are given hiring preference and if their husband gets laid off he > won't be so able to find work anymore, , and so now the standard household > makes $45,000 a year with two working parents, the price of the normal house > now jumps up to $45,000 because every family has more money to spend. > > Did you see the trick in there? Instead of Mom taking care of things while > Dad is gone, so every body can have a little leisure time, and there's > always a parent around for the children, Mom went to work so the family > would have more money. In the short term it worked, but in the long term > all the standard families had more money, the supply of real estate is > limited and people need to spend their money on it, so instead of more > leisure time in real dollars the price of housing just skyrocketed. > > The economists weren't dumb when they decided to mandate that companies hire > women and minorities first. Ultimately, it lowered real wages for everyone. > And took away leisure time. Maybe they planned it so " we could be more > competitive in the global market. " Funny, because this is EXACTLY my theory!!! I've shared it with intelligent people who INVARIABLY shoot it down. But it's true if you ask me. The real estate market only shot up AFTER " women's liberation " . (Women's lib was a big joke too. Before I was relegated to being a wife & mother, but now I can pick my poison. But ecomonics dictate that I MUST drink the poison.) > > > >I don't say any of these to be critical or harsh. I am in category 1 > > & 2. But due to #1 I've recently left category #3 and joined the > >crackpot category. It ain't easy explaining to people how an entire > >society can be so damn corrupt without their implicit knowledge...a > >few short months ago I would have thought I was an extremeist crackpot > >too! > > If you look, it's easy to see there's a very unpleasant big picture going > on. The social engineeriing which hasn't been good for anyone is easy to > see. The only thing difficult to see is who' or whats really behind it. Yes, if you're looking for the specific perpetrators. But really, it's not that hard...it's the giant corporations who quietly run the government, the country, and frankly, the world. Scary. And I'm a crackpot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 GE makes a whole house one that is reverse osmosis. Google GE MERLIN Reverse Osmsosis. There is a guy selling one on Ebay. I have checked out their under the counter merlin since it doesn't need a tank like most reverse osmosis. ..jingles > > -----> Where did you find one that will filter out fluoride. I've > talked and looked everywhere and it's very controversial as to what > exactly is filtered out. > > I'm very curious! I want one too > Lynn > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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