Re: Which painkiller can you take again?

[Guest guest]

Dr. Skip Lenz, and others, have said Darvocet is okay to use with LDN.

I've been using something called Tramaden, a non-narcotic pain

reliever. Do a google.com search.

Art

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> I have a messed up shoulder and I need a painkiller. I have the list

> of drugs you are not supposed to take. But I seem to remember that

one

> painkiller is OK. Was it Percocet? Or Darvocet? Please help, I have

> done a search but can't find it.

>

[Guest guest]

I use Darvocet...

Art does Tramaden work good and where do you get it?

Hugs & Blessings,

Crystal

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[low dose naltrexone] Re: Which painkiller can you take again?

Dr. Skip Lenz, and others, have said Darvocet is okay to use with LDN.I've been using something called Tramaden, a non-narcotic pain reliever. Do a google.com search.Art-->> I have a messed up shoulder and I need a painkiller. I have the list > of drugs you are not supposed to take. But I seem to remember that one > painkiller is OK. Was it Percocet? Or Darvocet? Please help, I have > done a search but can't find it.>

[Guest guest]

ART - can you get tramaden without prescription?? places like walmart, cvs, or rite aid??

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[Guest guest]

Not as good as a narcotic for pain-killing, but I take it as an anti-

inflamatory with the thinking that it will quiet down MS symptoms. I

take one 610mg capsule in the afternoon and one before bed. Non habit

forming. Rather expensive though at $70 for a bottle of 60. I get it

online. Do a google.com search.

I plan on trying Prokarin again. They have a new method to

administer, a disc/patch you wear, and it lasts twice as long as the

old stuff. 16 hours compared to 8. Easy to use. First month's supply

is free and if you like it $200 a month afterwards. Not sure if

insurance will cover it. Email me for more details, if interested.

Art, the experimenter.

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> > I have a messed up shoulder and I need a painkiller. I have the

list

> > of drugs you are not supposed to take. But I seem to remember

that

> one

> > painkiller is OK. Was it Percocet? Or Darvocet? Please help, I

have

> > done a search but can't find it.

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> Skip's Compounding Pharmacy

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> LDN Website

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[Guest guest]

is darvocet the same as darvon? i thought it was a narcotic and

therefore not to be taken with ldn??

Dr. Skip Lenz, and others, have said Darvocet is okay to use with LDN.

I've been using something called Tramaden, a non-narcotic pain

reliever. Do a google.com search.

Art

[Guest guest]

Darvocet is a mild narcotic with tylenol. I kept thinking it was wrong

to take with LDN, but Skip, and others, say it's okay.

>

> is darvocet the same as darvon? i thought it was a narcotic and

> therefore not to be taken with ldn??

>

> Dr. Skip Lenz, and others, have said Darvocet is okay to use with LDN.

>

> I've been using something called Tramaden, a non-narcotic pain

> reliever. Do a google.com search.

>

> Art

>

[Guest guest]

Tramaden is available online without a prescription. Not sure about the

local stores you mention, but if I had to guess I'd say no. Maybe they

can special order it for you.

Art

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> ART - can you get tramaden without prescription?? places like

walmart,

> cvs, or rite aid??

>

> _marshiris@..._ (mailto:marshiris@...)

[Guest guest]

YES, CRYSTAL - i was told by dr. mccandless that i could use the LDN CREAM, while on steroids!! i think one's individual case is what would prompt this advice, though!!

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[Guest guest]

sounds like darvon is the same ingred as darvocet but without tylenol. i

just called the pharm and she told me it was an opiod so therefore not

ok to take with ldn??

what about tramacet? it's tramadol hydrochloride and acetaminopehn.

thanks

monique

[Guest guest]

Do not take LDN (Naltrexone) with any of the following:

• disulfiram (Antabuse);• thioridazine (Mellaril);• buprenorphine (Buprenex, Subutrex);• codeine (Tylenol with Codeine, and other brand names);• hydrocodone (Lorcet, Lortab, Vicodin, Vicoprofen, and other brand names);• hydromorphone (Dilaudid);• levorphanol (Levo-Dromoran);• meperidine (Demerol);• methadone (Dolophine, Methadose);• morphine (Kadian, MS Contin, MSIR, OMS, Roxanol, Oramorph SR, and other brand names);• oxycodone (M-Oxy, OxyContin, OxyIR, Roxicodone, Percocet, Percodan, and other brand names);• oxymorphone (Numorphan); or• propoxyphene (Darvon, and other brand names).

· Ultram (tramadol)

· Novantrone

· Rebif

· Avonex

· Betaseron

· Tysabri

· Chemo's

· Cellcept is a chemotherapy

· Remicade - Called Skip's Pharmacy at the suggestion of people in this group, and the pharmacist there told me you have to be off Remicade for 50 days before starting LDN. Since the two meds have opposing effects on the immune system, LDN won't work while on Remicade. http://www.skipspha rmacy.com/

· 6MP - called Skip's about 6MP they said you should be off it for about a week before starting LDN.It sounded like you wouldn't want to take 6MP concurrent with LDN, since 6MP is an immunosuppressant and would have opposing effect on immune system as LDN.

Ø Cautionary warnings:

Because LDN blocks opioid receptors throughout the body for three or four hours, people using medicine that is an opioid agonist, i.e. narcotic medication — such as Ultram (tramadol), morphine, Percocet, Duragesic patch or codeine-containing medication — should not take LDN until such medicine is completely out of one's system. Patients who have become dependant on daily use of narcotic-containing pain medication may require 10 days to 2 weeks of slowly weaning off of such drugs entirely (while first substituting full doses of non-narcotic pain medications) before being able to begin LDN safely.

I believe that steroids, short term, are ok with LDN.

Dr. Skip

Drugs that may interact with Low Dose Naltrexone

Generic Name

Brand Name*

Mixed Opiate Agonists/Antagonists

Buprenorphine

Buprenex®, Suboxone®, Subutex®

Butorphanol

Dorolex®, Stadol®

Nalbuphine

Nubain®

Pentazocine

Naloxone®, Talwin®

Opiate Agonists

Alfentinil

Alfenta®

Clonidine

Catapres®

Codeine

N/A

Dronabinol, THC

Marinol®

Fentanyl

Duragesic®, Aqtic®, Sublimaze®, Fentora®

Hydrocodone

Lorcet®, Lortab®, Vicodin®

Hydromorphone

Dilaudid®

Levorphanol

Levo-Dromoran®

Meperidine

Demerol®, Meperitab®

Methadone

Dolophine®, Methodose®

Morphine

Kadian®, MSContin®

Oxycodone

Percocet®, Endocet®, Roxicodone®, Endocodone®

Oxymorphone

Opana®, Numorphone®

Propoxyphene

Darvocet®, Darvon®

Remifentinil

Ultiva®

Sufentinil

Sufenta®

Other Medications

Disulfuram

Antabuse®

Dronabinol, THC

Marinol®

Nabilone

Cesamet®

Thioridazine

Mellaril®

Clonidine

Catapres®

* May not include each brand name available on the market in the United States

References:

Clinical Pharmacology Online @ www.clinicalpharmacology.com (accessed 06/14/07)

In addition, because LDN stimulates the immune system and many of the drugs routinely used by the NHS in the treatment of MS further suppress the immune system, LDN cannot be used in company with steroids, beta interferon, methotrexate, azathioprine or mitozantrone or any other immune suppressant drug. If there is any doubt, please submit a full list of the drugs you are presently taking so that their compatibility may be assessed. In addition, because LDN will also block the analgesic effects of any opiate drugs (includes codeine, dihydrocodeine, morphine, pethidine or diamorphine) presently being taken, the use of LDN will initially greatly increase the level of pain experienced. It is therefore advisable that any opiate-like drugs be discontinued at least two weeks before this treatment is

initiated."

Hugs & Blessings,

Crystal

LDN_Users Group Owner

Diagnosed November 2004 with Secondary Progressive MS, Transverse Myelitis and an Advocate for LDN!! 2 years & 9 months on LDN with Skip's Pharmacy.....

Crystal's MS,TM & LDN Website

Crystal's LDN Gift Shop

Crystal's LDN Support Group

Skip's Compounding Pharmacy

LDN Website

[low dose naltrexone] Re: Which painkiller can you take again?

sounds like darvon is the same ingred as darvocet but without tylenol. i just called the pharm and she told me it was an opiod so therefore not ok to take with ldn??what about tramacet? it's tramadol hydrochloride and acetaminopehn.thanksmonique

[Guest guest]

Hi Marsh,

I'm sure there are some differences as far as using the LDN cream and the capsule and with what you can and can't take with them. Also as with anything else everyone reacts different to everything.

Hugs & Blessings,

Crystal

LDN_Users Group Owner

Diagnosed November 2004 with Secondary Progressive MS, Transverse Myelitis and an Advocate for LDN!! 2 years & 9 months on LDN with Skip's Pharmacy.....

Crystal's MS,TM & LDN Website

Crystal's LDN Gift Shop

Crystal's LDN Support Group

Skip's Compounding Pharmacy

LDN Website

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Which painkiller can you take again?

YES, CRYSTAL - i was told by dr. mccandless that i could use the LDN CREAM, while on steroids!! i think one's individual case is what would prompt this advice, though!!

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