Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 > > My 5 year old NT son has an oil slick in his urine. Is he properly absorbing fats? > He is pencil thin and his muscle development is not where it should be > (eg he is weaker in the thighs than his older sister). Carnitine can help with this [along with help with proper absorption of fats]. >> At first I > thought the issue with fat was the adrenals since I read that it > affects the metabolism of fat. At my house, it was mitochondrial dysfunction, not adrenals http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm > My next step is to try carnitine and possibly other supplements - what > do others suggest? How do you dose the carnitine? I started with 250mg and worked up from there as required. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Choline is what digests fats; Choline is a Nutritional Supplement; a member of the Vitamin family; I would suggest this a.s.a.p; very safe. I'll send a list of foods high in Choline in a jif. SoyMilk has Choline. Another name for Choline in Lecithin; found in Egg Yolks. A. ps Choline is an essential nutrient > > My 5 year old NT son has an oil slick in his urine. It's especially > visible in the morning when he first pees after getting up. > > He's got low cortisol and I'm treating him with supplements & dietary > changes. We've noticed nice results there too, with an increase in > energy and fewer (almost no) muscle pains. > > He is pencil thin and his muscle development is not where it should be > (eg he is weaker in the thighs than his older sister). At first I > thought the issue with fat was the adrenals since I read that it > affects the metabolism of fat. But since I still see the oil after > treating the adrenals for 6 weeks, I tried some digestive enzymes to > see if it helped. But the slick still remains. > > My next step is to try carnitine and possibly other supplements - what > do others suggest? How do you dose the carnitine? I've read that it's > important to build it up slowly but how do you know how much to give? > I've also read that a fishy smell in the urine is a sign of too much > so I suppose that I can go to that point then back down... But since > my son is " NT " I'm wondering if there is any benefit in testing his > levels before supplementing. Why is he deficient and how can I help > correct this so that he doesn't have to take it forever? > > What other possibilities are there to explain oil in the urine? Can > thyroid problems affect fat metabolism? > > Thanks for any leads, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 > > Got up this morning and went into the kids' bathroom, found the toilet > hadn't been flushed and there was an oil slick on top - clear, but > obvious. It was only urine. This meant yeast overgrowth at my house. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 That would make sense - since he has been trying to avoid me seeing him rub his eyes. I guess I was a little too trusting that it was really an eyelash in his eye when he protested that it wasn't yeast the other day. Guess I'll just have to make him take some GSE whether he thinks he needs it or not. Maybe the oil slick is something that I never saw before, but am wondering if yeast presentation changed for anyone as they chelated. P. danasview wrote: > > > > > > Got up this morning and went into the kids' bathroom, found the toilet > > hadn't been flushed and there was an oil slick on top - clear, but > > obvious. It was only urine. > > This meant yeast overgrowth at my house. > > Dana > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 >>Maybe the oil slick is something that I never saw > before, but am wondering if yeast presentation changed for anyone as > they chelated. Yeast overgrowth symptoms changed over time at my house. So yes, it can be that. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 We don't do Halloween, and the only supplement he has taken recently is his C. Shepard Salzer wrote: > > Any oily supps? Any Halloween treats? > S S > > Oil Slick in Urine > Posted by: " P. " the.great.zambini@... > <mailto:the.great.zambini%40gmail.com> zambinilives > Sat Nov 1, 2008 8:22 am (PDT) > Got up this morning and went into the kids' bathroom, found the toilet > hadn't been flushed and there was an oil slick on top - clear, but > obvious. It was only urine. Suspect - my 18 yo son, who gets up in the > night to dose him and his sister, let me know it was done, and then > always heads to the bathroom. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 > > Got up this morning and went into the kids' bathroom, found the toilet > hadn't been flushed and there was an oil slick on top - clear, but > obvious. It was only urine. Suspect - my 18 yo son, who gets up in the > night to dose him and his sister, let me know it was done, and then > always heads to the bathroom. Hi , We've had the same thing happen here. My son, who is skinny as a bean pole, had this oil slick for months and it went away when I started giving him carnitine with his meals in particular with any sources of fat. On the occasions where he doesn't take the carnitine with meals, I usually notice an oil slick later in the day or in the first morning urine the following day. My daughter also was having this, but carnitine did nothing for her (except turn her urine fishy even in small doses). For her, the problem seems to be linked to adrenal insufficiency. I've recently increased her daily doses of ACE and she has started HC as per Andy's recommendation, and I no longer see the oil slick. I was also shocked to see a slick in the toilet bowl for myself several weeks ago and this coincided with a period where I was not taking enough HC. So I'm assuming that adrenals were a factor for me as well, though lord knows that I was tempted to keep the HC down just to shed a few pounds! If this is a new symptom, maybe your son is going through a period of stress. The need for cortisol goes up during periods of stress and if the adrenals don't respond appropriately, insufficiency occurs and symptoms can be seen as a result. And if this is the case, then giving (more) ACE would help. I'd also still like to hear about other possible causes from others. At our end, I don't exclude that other factors could also be contributing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Hmmm. . . so maybe he doesn't need the extra C anymore? He also gets C rich foods. What about on rounds? I'm adding back in biotin, he had stopped taking that 'cause yeast was under control. P. danasview wrote: > > > > > > We don't do Halloween, and the only supplement he has taken recently is > > his C. > > Vitamin C caused a lot of yeast here, because of viral die off. This > was sooooooo confusing to me at first, because I gave high doses of > vitamin C and it caused constipation, not diarrhea. Finally figured > it out tho! > > Dana > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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