Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 my child does not do that but I've heard of it before, you might want to take him to a specialist, they can help with training the eye muscle --- " l.largey " <l.largey@...> wrote: > I was wondering if anyone elses child has muscle > control problems with > there eyes? My son has had this where one eye drifts > away at times and > didn't start till he was about a year old. This is > not visual stimming > ( he does do that as well ) Could mercury have an > effect on this? > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 My daughter has this as well. It freaked us out at first, simply because we thought it was a seizure. Nope, it is a muscle issue with the eyes and she wore glasses for a while, and has not needed them for about 2 years, but now that puberty has hit and the body is growing like a weed, she is beginning to do it again. " Amy W. Osborne " <amesw@...> wrote: my child does not do that but I've heard of it before, you might want to take him to a specialist, they can help with training the eye muscle --- " l.largey " <l.largey@...> wrote: > I was wondering if anyone elses child has muscle > control problems with > there eyes? My son has had this where one eye drifts > away at times and > didn't start till he was about a year old. This is > not visual stimming > ( he does do that as well ) Could mercury have an > effect on this? > > __________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Thanks. We have made an appointment just takes forever to get there. It sort of goes away and comes back. Thanks for replies I appreciate it Re: [ ] eye turns out My daughter has this as well. It freaked us out at first, simply because we thought it was a seizure. Nope, it is a muscle issue with the eyes and she wore glasses for a while, and has not needed them for about 2 years, but now that puberty has hit and the body is growing like a weed, she is beginning to do it again. " Amy W. Osborne " <amesw (DOT) com> wrote: my child does not do that but I've heard of it before, you might want to take him to a specialist, they can help with training the eye muscle --- " l.largey " <l.largey (DOT) com> wrote: > I was wondering if anyone elses child has muscle > control problems with > there eyes? My son has had this where one eye drifts > away at times and > didn't start till he was about a year old. This is > not visual stimming > ( he does do that as well ) Could mercury have an > effect on this? > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools. search.. com/newsearch/ category. php?category= shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 yes my frineds; some call this " a lazy eye; but the truth is this is a disease called NYSGATMUS; a very well known eye disorder. Nysgatmus is where the eye muscles do not co-oridinate in each eye; and one eyw may look in another direction as the other eye and other very subtle abnormalities such as this; not to worry; this can be helped wotj certaom Mitroemts The lack of these Nutrients can cause Nystagmus ! Thiamien Vitamin B1 Vitamin B12 Vitamin B-Complex Vitamn A Beta-Carotene A DEFIENCY OF THIAMINE VIT. B1 AND OR VITAMIN B12 CAUSES THIS DISEASE. The other known treatment fo this is: neck massages and spine realingment; becaue sometimes the opric nerves get crossed with other nerves whic causes weak muchsles; by alignine the spinge sometimes the nerves uncross on theri own. There have been cases of kids with 'cross eyes going to normal with this tenhicghe of spine alignmetn; done ONLY with a certifed chiroparctror; LOTS OF FRESH FRUIT EGGS AND other nutritous food help > > > I was wondering if anyone elses child has muscle > > control problems with > > there eyes? My son has had this where one eye drifts > > away at times and > > didn't start till he was about a year old. This is > > not visual stimming > > ( he does do that as well ) Could mercury have an > > effect on this? > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 We saw this occassionally with my dd at the beginning of bio-med. It has gone away completely with chelation and anti-virals. OLE was very helpful in particular. Haven't seen it in more than a year and she did not require anything from an eye specialist. Sheresa > > > I was wondering if anyone elses child has muscle > > control problems with > > there eyes? My son has had this where one eye drifts > > away at times and > > didn't start till he was about a year old. This is > > not visual stimming > > ( he does do that as well ) Could mercury have an > > effect on this? > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Search. http://tools. search.. com/newsearch/ category. php?category= shopping > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 > > I was wondering if anyone elses child has muscle control problems with > there eyes? My son has had this where one eye drifts away at times and > didn't start till he was about a year old. This is not visual stimming > ( he does do that as well ) Could mercury have an effect on this? My #4 had this problem. The doctor was going to patch it and if that did not work, surgery. But then we lost our insurance, so I decided to put her on the same supps that my boys took. What significantly reduced this problem was enzymes and yeast control. ALA chelation then eliminated the food/yeast problem. The eye still turned out somewhat, which was eliminated with anti-virals [vitamin C and lysine] and biotin. I am glad I never did surgery on her. I wonder what the eye would have done once I addressed the underlying cause. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 My dd was a preemie and had been seeing a pediatric opthamologist starting at 2 months. At the time that this was occuring the dr. said that since it wasn't severe that a patch or anything else would not be necessary at the time and then it went away on its own. I wasn't suggesting she not take her child to the doctor, was just sharing that the underlying cause of this for my child was metals/virus/food intolerance. My child has seen her share of doctors, most of them have not been extremely helpful in dealing with her medical issues. The purpose of this list, from my perspective, is for people to share what works for certain issues in their family. I'm not aware of anyone here claiming that a one size fits all as we all know that the children are very different. Certainly nobody is claiming that GSE or OLE are a cure all. Sheresa > > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone elses child has muscle > > > > control problems with > > > > there eyes? My son has had this where one eye > > drifts > > > > away at times and > > > > didn't start till he was about a year old. This > > is > > > > not visual stimming > > > > ( he does do that as well ) Could mercury have > > an > > > > effect on this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ > > _________ _________ _ > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > > Find them fast with Search. http://tools. > > search.. > > com/newsearch/ category. php?category= shopping > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > ______________ > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > > http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > http://www./r/hs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I wasn't picking on you - mostly making an observation about the list in general. It seems like almost every post on this list is answered with OLE or GSE and no doctors needed, for every symptom. Don't get me wrong I know that happens for some people but... it doesn't happen for everyone. Thanks for clarifying that you did see a specialist for your child, I think its important to include that piece of information when telling others what you did and how... I would not want someone to forego that " extra expense " thinking it was not useful or didn't have its place, use OLE or GSE for a while and then later on the problem turn out to be something bigger that could have had a better outcome if it had been caught earlier - you know? --- sbarron6fun <barronsix@...> wrote: > My dd was a preemie and had been seeing a pediatric > opthamologist > starting at 2 months. At the time that this was > occuring the dr. > said that since it wasn't severe that a patch or > anything else would > not be necessary at the time and then it went away > on its own. I > wasn't suggesting she not take her child to the > doctor, was just > sharing that the underlying cause of this for my > child was > metals/virus/food intolerance. My child has seen > her share of > doctors, most of them have not been extremely > helpful in dealing with > her medical issues. > > The purpose of this list, from my perspective, is > for people to share > what works for certain issues in their family. I'm > not aware of > anyone here claiming that a one size fits all as we > all know that the > children are very different. Certainly nobody is > claiming that GSE > or OLE are a cure all. > > Sheresa > > > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone elses child has > muscle > > > > > control problems with > > > > > there eyes? My son has had this where one > eye > > > drifts > > > > > away at times and > > > > > didn't start till he was about a year old. > This > > > is > > > > > not visual stimming > > > > > ( he does do that as well ) Could mercury > have > > > an > > > > > effect on this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ > > > _________ _________ _ > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > > > Find them fast with Search. > http://tools. > > > search.. > > > com/newsearch/ category. php?category= shopping > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > ______________ > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > > > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > > http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > === message truncated === ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Good job! I'm not doing everything the " DAN " way either, I'm using things that make sense, but I do think its important to know as much as you can about the condition you are treating. I'm asking questions too - and one of the questions I'm asking is why do so many people use specialists for their own child that gives them a certain (even if minimal) comfort level with what they are doing but not think its important for others to have that too? I mean, it must make you more sure of yourself that the specialist didn't see a tumor or other signs of disease? --- Mum231ASD@... wrote: > > In a message dated 07/01/2008 15:42:08 GMT Standard > Time, amesw@... > writes: > > Thanks for clarifying that you did see a specialist > for your child, I think its important to include > that > piece of information when telling others what you > did > and how... I would not want someone to forego that > " extra expense " thinking it was not useful > > > >> I saw medics x 2, both ASD specialists, IMHO most > of them are > guessing,just like we are but a mothers intuition > counts for a lot in my book. My kid > started with an ATEC of 142 in 2001 and scored 37 > last March. No medics, 5 non > invasive tests, mega amounts of reading and > questions, Houston enzymes (and > coming off diet) and AC protocol DMSA/ALA brought > the most gains, neither of > which any DAN would have recommended............ > > Mandi in UK (Dr Mum!) > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Yes, Mercury on the third cranial nerve does this. Expect to see this come and go as you chelate. Also look into vision therapy. Barb [ ] eye turns out I was wondering if anyone elses child has muscle control problems with there eyes? My son has had this where one eye drifts away at times and didn't start till he was about a year old. This is not visual stimming ( he does do that as well ) Could mercury have an effect on this? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1212 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 10:55 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 My son also has this. It's intermittent exotropia and he sees a behavorial optometrist for vision therapy. Elaine B > > I was wondering if anyone elses child has muscle control problems with > there eyes? My son has had this where one eye drifts away at times and > didn't start till he was about a year old. This is not visual stimming > ( he does do that as well ) Could mercury have an effect on this? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 > Part of the reason for seeing the eye specialist would > be to rule out other causes, such as tumor, disease, > etc. You may want to be sure what the condition is > before assuming it is benign and treating naturally... > ie - I'd make sure it was not a tumor or " other > neurological condition " before assuming it just needs > some vitamins, or OLE. I have a somewhat opposite philosophy. An autism specialist told me my #2 was autistic, genetic, nothing could be done. I recovered him with OTC supplements. A pediatric ophthalmologist " specialist " told me my #4's eye turning-outward problem might be correctable with patching or surgery. I corrected it with OTC supplements. A pediatrician told me my #4's strep would be addressed by Zithromax. After three courses, and it still came back a fourth time, I eliminated it with OLE. I have a few more stories like that, but the bottom line is that now I try to address the problem FIRST. And, if I can't address it in a reasonable amount of time, THEN I take the affected child to a specialist. I don't see the point of wasting my time and money taking my child to a " specialist " every time I notice something amiss, when most of the time I can handle it at home. Only when I can't, do I see a specialist. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Hi Dana, I can respect a difference of philosophy, its healthy to have differences if one alternative is not presented as the one and only way to proceed. My 3 year old's OAT that came back yesterday, indicated he might have a tumor; indicated additional testing is warranted in five areas, so, I am definitely checking that tumor thing out with a specialist. Even if he has a tumor and it ends up being something that can be helped with a natural remedy, at least I'll know what I'm up against. Amy O --- danasview <danasview@...> wrote: > > > Part of the reason for seeing the eye specialist > would > > be to rule out other causes, such as tumor, > disease, > > etc. You may want to be sure what the condition > is > > before assuming it is benign and treating > naturally... > > ie - I'd make sure it was not a tumor or " other > > neurological condition " before assuming it just > needs > > some vitamins, or OLE. > > > I have a somewhat opposite philosophy. > > An autism specialist told me my #2 was autistic, > genetic, nothing > could be done. I recovered him with OTC > supplements. > > A pediatric ophthalmologist " specialist " told me my > #4's eye > turning-outward problem might be correctable with > patching or surgery. > I corrected it with OTC supplements. > > A pediatrician told me my #4's strep would be > addressed by Zithromax. > After three courses, and it still came back a > fourth time, I > eliminated it with OLE. > > I have a few more stories like that, but the bottom > line is that now I > try to address the problem FIRST. And, if I can't > address it in a > reasonable amount of time, THEN I take the affected > child to a > specialist. I don't see the point of wasting my > time and money taking > my child to a " specialist " every time I notice > something amiss, when > most of the time I can handle it at home. Only when > I can't, do I see > a specialist. > > Dana > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 > > I have a few more stories like that, but the bottom line is that now I > try to address the problem FIRST. And, if I can't address it in a > reasonable amount of time, THEN I take the affected child to a > specialist. I don't see the point of wasting my time and money taking > my child to a " specialist " every time I notice something amiss, when > most of the time I can handle it at home. Only when I can't, do I see > a specialist. ITA. I have a similar list of stories. It's quite amazing how much healthier my children got when I *stopped taking them to the doctor. I have another long list of specialists being wrong about my own mercury-caused health problems, including such helpful (NOT!) suggestions as get a new mattress and see a shrink because my symptoms were all in my head. (They were caused by thyroid and adrenal weakness.) Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 > Hi Dana, > I can respect a difference of philosophy, its healthy > to have differences if one alternative is not > presented as the one and only way to proceed. In every situation, there are usually several options to consider. In my messages, I try to write what worked for my kids, and give options and other ideas also. In my experience tho, doctors usually only give one option, almost always including a prescription medication, almost never a natural solution. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.