Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 There is a discussion goingon about this very treatment on CSN (AANP's clinical support network). the basic consensus is is that it is a scamp. anecdotally, people have run the circuit with not feet in the water, and 'colors' and 'crud' are still produced. I have also had a bit of personal experience with it, and also believe that the claims made are unsubstantiated- it doesn't make sense that heavy metal burden could be reduced through this avenue. perhaps increasing the skin as an emuctory,but not to such a large degree. I think the residue is jsut do to precipitation of salts from the circuit and/ or superficial reactions with epithelial tissue. Needless to say, it does look impressive! if you really want to know definately, send samples into the lab: with different water (distilled, tap etc. as well as with feet in it and without) and see the results. Nina Paroo, ND Seattle WA family med, chronic dz --- Tan <drktan@...> wrote: > has anyone heard of or experienced Bionic > Hydrotherapy? its an ionic > foot bath and pulls toxins out of the body thru the > feet. one of my > pts had it and said the water turned brown after her > 30 min. foot bath > and it wasn't from dirty feet. > > just curious, > Tan, ND, LAc > Honolulu, HI > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Hi I tried it once. I visited an ND while I was in Calgary and ended up having a treatment. The water turned all kinds of lovely colours, and my chronic back pain disappeared about 15 minutes into the bath, and stayed away for about 3 days. The explanation of how it works (pulling toxins out through my feet, made no sense to me, and, I was pretty sure the change in water colour was due to the poor quality of the Calgary tap water that was used, but there clearly was some type of effect. The ND told me it was a big money maker for her, despite the $10,000 cost for the equipment. (PS The back pain disappeared " permanently " after several months of drainage.) Dr. Loreen Dawson, ND Sechelt, BC Family Practice Bionic hydrotherapy has anyone heard of or experienced Bionic Hydrotherapy? its an ionic foot bath and pulls toxins out of the body thru the feet. one of my pts had it and said the water turned brown after her 30 min. foot bath and it wasn't from dirty feet. just curious, Tan, ND, LAc Honolulu, HI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Hi and yes, I have used the footbath as have several of my patients. And yes, the water gets very funky. In my case, the water also was full of sediment that ,by the end of the treatment, irritated the skin around my ankles(toxic material i guess). My patients all had fine experiences, I had a detox nightmare from hell and was ill for 2 weeks. As i learned later, my detox pathways were energetically reversed so I was unable to clear the toxic material. The condition is called spleen plug. Ah, we learn new things every day. At any rate, I think I am interested in the machine because anything that can help in the process of helping the body to eliminate toxic material could be good, but, I am uncertain as to how this thing really works and the printed material really doesn't say much.So that's all I know right now. Hope this helps. White, Connecticut Bionic hydrotherapy > > has anyone heard of or experienced Bionic Hydrotherapy? its an ionic > foot bath and pulls toxins out of the body thru the feet. one of my > pts had it and said the water turned brown after her 30 min. foot bath > and it wasn't from dirty feet. > > just curious, > Tan, ND, LAc > Honolulu, HI > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 In my experience, if you do not add the salt to the bath water, at the end of the bath the water looks the same as before you start. The foot baths feel great. Ever put your feet in a Dr. Scholl's vibrating foot bath? It's great! So if you don't add the salt, there is no reaction with the plates to change the water. Whittaker, ND Family Practice Everett, WA Bionic hydrotherapy > > > > > > has anyone heard of or experienced Bionic Hydrotherapy? its an ionic > > foot bath and pulls toxins out of the body thru the feet. one of my > > pts had it and said the water turned brown after her 30 min. foot bath > > and it wasn't from dirty feet. > > > > just curious, > > Tan, ND, LAc > > Honolulu, HI > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Hi Loreen and others Even if was a scam (crystal formation without feet being in the water) how would it make chronic back pain disappear?or other pain? placebo effect? would the back pain have gone away in the device without the salt? loreen did your back pain go away this after mths of foot baths? or other drainage? Tan, ND, LAc Honolulu, HI On Tuesday, January 25, 2005, at 05:32 PM, Loreen wrote: > > Hi > I tried it once. I visited an ND while I was in Calgary and ended up > having a treatment. The water turned all kinds of lovely colours, and > my chronic back pain disappeared about 15 minutes into the bath, and > stayed away for about 3 days. The explanation of how it works (pulling > toxins out through my feet, made no sense to me, and, I was pretty sure > the change in water colour was due to the poor quality of the Calgary > tap water that was used, but there clearly was some type of effect. > The > ND told me it was a big money maker for her, despite the $10,000 cost > for the equipment. (PS The back pain disappeared " permanently " after > several months of drainage.) > Dr. Loreen Dawson, ND > Sechelt, BC > Family Practice > > > Bionic hydrotherapy > > > has anyone heard of or experienced Bionic Hydrotherapy? its an ionic > foot bath and pulls toxins out of the body thru the feet. one of my > pts had it and said the water turned brown after her 30 min. foot bath > and it wasn't from dirty feet. > > just curious, > Tan, ND, LAc > Honolulu, HI > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 Hi I doubt the affect was placebo because I was very skeptical it would do anything, and certainly had no idea it would make my back pain go away. I only tried it one time, for about 30 minutes. A patient had told me about it, and I wanted to discuss it with the ND I visited. I was only able to try it because she had had a cancellation. The back pain went away for about 3 days. Then it came back. It went away again after several months of drainage. I continue to experiment with drainage on myself, so am not sure if it would come back if I stopped drainage for awhile. The explanation of the foot bath detoxing fits with the drainage also working. No amount of physio, chiropractic, or massage ever eliminated the pain for more than a few hours. Qi gong did work when I was doing it daily. Loreen Dawson Sechelt, BC Family Practice Bionic hydrotherapy > > > has anyone heard of or experienced Bionic Hydrotherapy? its an ionic > foot bath and pulls toxins out of the body thru the feet. one of my > pts had it and said the water turned brown after her 30 min. foot bath > and it wasn't from dirty feet. > > just curious, > Tan, ND, LAc > Honolulu, HI > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Bumping this up....am see a lot of this and was wondering if anyone has any info? > I am hearing a lot about this in my area....but does anyone know > anything about it or have tried it and gotten any results. > http://www.bionichydrotherapy.com/ > > thanks > Ronni > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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