Re: Info about California Autism Rates

[Guest guest]

It's not just the thermisol in the vaccines that is/was an issue. They still

have aluminum in them as well as a host of other preservs. like formaldahyde.

Look up some info on the ingredients in vaccs.

Also, not only are the preservs. and issue, but multi-vaccs such as the MMR

are an issue. No one should have 3 live viruses injected into them at once, much

less an 18 month old baby. My son has a viral infection in his brain (just found

that out...he is the picture of good health - but it's in there) By chance, his

autistic symptoms started after his MMR....get where I'm going with this one? He

is 4 now and it took this long for me to fight the docs and finally pay for one

out of pocket that would help me prove his autism is caused by a physical issue.

Even if they took out every nasty thing in vaccs...it's still a risk when you

compromise a child's immune system.

Cornell <fourcornells@...> wrote:

On CNN last night there was information about the study of autism rates

in California. Obviously it stated that the ASD rates continue to rise

despite the removal of Thimerasol from vaccines. Is there any

information on this? I thought I remembered reading a while back about

how they were able to manipulate stats by how the age cohorts were

divided. Does this ring a bell to anyone? If so, please tell me where

to find it.

I like to have some ammunition in my pocket when a medical professional

tries to downplay my concerns about the current vaccines and the

current vaccination schedule. Thanks for your help.

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[Guest guest]

You are right. I am aware of all of these issues. Thimerosal is

just one of the many factors that impact this epidemic. These

multiple issues were not addressed in this study, they were simply

looking at thmerasol. As having a little backgound in research and

statistics I was just curious how they came up with the results.

Statistic can be maniplulated in many, many ways. I was just

cusrious what they took to get their desired results.

> On CNN last night there was information about the study of autism

rates

> in California. Obviously it stated that the ASD rates continue to

rise

> despite the removal of Thimerasol from vaccines. Is there any

> information on this? I thought I remembered reading a while back

about

> how they were able to manipulate stats by how the age cohorts were

> divided. Does this ring a bell to anyone? If so, please tell me

where

> to find it.

>

> I like to have some ammunition in my pocket when a medical

professional

> tries to downplay my concerns about the current vaccines and the

> current vaccination schedule. Thanks for your help.

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry, I guess I misunderstood your question then.

My mom is a biomedical statistician. I'll e-mail her and ask how data can be

either corrupted or common ways statistics can be manipulated. I'll let you

know!

Cornell <fourcornells@...> wrote:

You are right. I am aware of all of these issues. Thimerosal is

just one of the many factors that impact this epidemic. These

multiple issues were not addressed in this study, they were simply

looking at thmerasol. As having a little backgound in research and

statistics I was just curious how they came up with the results.

Statistic can be maniplulated in many, many ways. I was just

cusrious what they took to get their desired results.

> On CNN last night there was information about the study of autism

rates

> in California. Obviously it stated that the ASD rates continue to

rise

> despite the removal of Thimerasol from vaccines. Is there any

> information on this? I thought I remembered reading a while back

about

> how they were able to manipulate stats by how the age cohorts were

> divided. Does this ring a bell to anyone? If so, please tell me

where

> to find it.

>

> I like to have some ammunition in my pocket when a medical

professional

> tries to downplay my concerns about the current vaccines and the

> current vaccination schedule. Thanks for your help.

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

No problem. I was shooting the message off quickly so I could be

guilty of poor writing.

> > On CNN last night there was information about the study of autism

> rates

> > in California. Obviously it stated that the ASD rates continue to

> rise

> > despite the removal of Thimerasol from vaccines. Is there any

> > information on this? I thought I remembered reading a while back

> about

> > how they were able to manipulate stats by how the age cohorts

were

> > divided. Does this ring a bell to anyone? If so, please tell me

> where

> > to find it.

> >

> > I like to have some ammunition in my pocket when a medical

> professional

> > tries to downplay my concerns about the current vaccines and the

> > current vaccination schedule. Thanks for your help.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > =======================================================

> >

[Guest guest]

>

> You are right. I am aware of all of these issues. Thimerosal is

> just one of the many factors that impact this epidemic. These

> multiple issues were not addressed in this study, they were simply

> looking at thmerasol.

And how carefully were they even looking at that? What about the flu shot? And

the flu shot

given to pregnant moms? And doesn't some kinds of rhoGam still have thimerosal?

Nell

[Guest guest]

The actual reality is thus:

vaccines stopped being manufactured with thimerosal in 01 or 02. They then got

sold and

were used for another couple of years.

Autism rates are determined at school entrance, age 6, then have to get passed

through a

lot o bureaucracy to become official statistics.

School entry happens at age 6.

So now in the 2007-8 school year, we are talking about children born in 2001 +

or - and

they all received all thimerosal laden vaccines.

The peak of the thimerosal autism epidemic will occur in the next 2-3 years, we

aren't at it

yet. The effect of these kinds of papers is to ensure more chidlren get turned

autistic by

the remaining thimerosal preserved vaccines (e.g. flu) and to prevent the

current autistics

from receiving proper curative treatment in order to protect the medical

establishment

from the very predictable backlash they face once people figure out that they

caused the

autism epidemic.

Andy

[Guest guest]

Andy, very well said. This was my biggest fear about the California

study.

[Guest guest]

Lets not forget the huge push to inject pregnant women with mercury

via the flu vaccine at the the same time thimerosal was to be taken

out of childhood vaccines. The fetus is more susceptible to the

effects of mercury then even a baby.

>

> The actual reality is thus:

>

> vaccines stopped being manufactured with thimerosal in 01 or 02.

They then got sold and

> were used for another couple of years.

>

> Autism rates are determined at school entrance, age 6, then have to

get passed through a

> lot o bureaucracy to become official statistics.

>

> School entry happens at age 6.

>

> So now in the 2007-8 school year, we are talking about children

born in 2001 + or - and

> they all received all thimerosal laden vaccines.

>

> The peak of the thimerosal autism epidemic will occur in the next 2-

3 years, we aren't at it

> yet. The effect of these kinds of papers is to ensure more

chidlren get turned autistic by

> the remaining thimerosal preserved vaccines (e.g. flu) and to

prevent the current autistics

> from receiving proper curative treatment in order to protect the

medical establishment

> from the very predictable backlash they face once people figure out

that they caused the

> autism epidemic.

>

> Andy

>