Re: Hyper!! Make him Stop!

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Pycnogenol might help

Mandi in UK

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The thing that stuck out to me the most was the amount of biotin that he is

getting. I see you are only giving 6mg. a day. My son requires at least 15 mgs.

a day to control yeast issues. I don't know anything about taurine so I can't

comment on that. Also, have you tried melatonin for the sleep issues and 5HTP to

help keep him asleep? Those are what we do here and my son is sleeping every

night now.. Hope you get some relief!

[ ] Hyper!! Make him Stop!

My son is so hyper he can't be still. He constantly runs through the

house, jumps on the couch and bed laughing hysterically. I started

the OLE+Lysine 2 days ago (2 hours apart). I thought maybe it was

yeast but he gets 6000mcg of biotin daily and OoO several times a

day. He can't take GSE cause of seizure meds.

He doesn't wanna sleep. He's been running and laughing since 2:00am.

He's always hyper but this is extreme, dangerous hyper. The last time

he acted like this was last year when the neuro tried him on celexa

to control OCD. I took him off of it after 2 months of the celexa

because of this behavior. I found out recently that the hyperness

meant the celexa was working and we was seeing the real him.

I was wondering if the OLE and Lysine is fixing the OCD maybe thats

why he can't be still. This is the exact same behavior as before with

the celexa. What will it take to calm him down? Does viral/yeast die-

off or overgrowth cause the hyperactivity? Isn't taurine suppose to

be calming, he takes 250 mgs twice daily. Should I up it some?

He has alot of the symptoms of adrenal fatigue too. Could this be

causing some problems? After last night I almost wanted to start the

clomipramine today. The clomipramine is suppose to raise serotonin

levels. What could I try that would be a good substitute?

Thanks,

Amy

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Partying at night sounds like Yeast.

Pamela

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless

you're scared. "

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On Behalf Of Amy

Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:03 AM

Subject: [ ] Hyper!! Make him Stop!

My son is so hyper he can't be still. He constantly runs through the

house, jumps on the couch and bed laughing hysterically. I started

the OLE+Lysine 2 days ago (2 hours apart). I thought maybe it was

yeast but he gets 6000mcg of biotin daily and OoO several times a

day. He can't take GSE cause of seizure meds.

He doesn't wanna sleep. He's been running and laughing since 2:00am.

He's always hyper but this is extreme, dangerous hyper. The last time

he acted like this was last year when the neuro tried him on celexa

to control OCD. I took him off of it after 2 months of the celexa

because of this behavior. I found out recently that the hyperness

meant the celexa was working and we was seeing the real him.

I was wondering if the OLE and Lysine is fixing the OCD maybe thats

why he can't be still. This is the exact same behavior as before with

the celexa. What will it take to calm him down? Does viral/yeast die-

off or overgrowth cause the hyperactivity? Isn't taurine suppose to

be calming, he takes 250 mgs twice daily. Should I up it some?

He has alot of the symptoms of adrenal fatigue too. Could this be

causing some problems? After last night I almost wanted to start the

clomipramine today. The clomipramine is suppose to raise serotonin

levels. What could I try that would be a good substitute?

Thanks,

Amy

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Try adding some extra folinic that seemed to help my party boy Grandson. Of

course the behavior you are describing is yeast at our house but the folinic

did help with the hyperactivity a LOT.

Chris

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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:39 AM

Subject: RE: [ ] Hyper!! Make him Stop!

Partying at night sounds like Yeast.

Pamela

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless

you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

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Subject: [ ] Hyper!! Make him Stop!

My son is so hyper he can't be still. He constantly runs through the

house, jumps on the couch and bed laughing hysterically. I started

the OLE+Lysine 2 days ago (2 hours apart). I thought maybe it was

yeast but he gets 6000mcg of biotin daily and OoO several times a

day. He can't take GSE cause of seizure meds.

He doesn't wanna sleep. He's been running and laughing since 2:00am.

He's always hyper but this is extreme, dangerous hyper. The last time

he acted like this was last year when the neuro tried him on celexa

to control OCD. I took him off of it after 2 months of the celexa

because of this behavior. I found out recently that the hyperness

meant the celexa was working and we was seeing the real him.

I was wondering if the OLE and Lysine is fixing the OCD maybe thats

why he can't be still. This is the exact same behavior as before with

the celexa. What will it take to calm him down? Does viral/yeast die-

off or overgrowth cause the hyperactivity? Isn't taurine suppose to

be calming, he takes 250 mgs twice daily. Should I up it some?

He has alot of the symptoms of adrenal fatigue too. Could this be

causing some problems? After last night I almost wanted to start the

clomipramine today. The clomipramine is suppose to raise serotonin

levels. What could I try that would be a good substitute?

Thanks,

Amy

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Hyper was yeast die off here, how long has he been on the OoO and biotin?

[ ] Hyper!! Make him Stop!

My son is so hyper he can't be still. He constantly runs through the

house, jumps on the couch and bed laughing hysterically. I started

the OLE+Lysine 2 days ago (2 hours apart). I thought maybe it was

yeast but he gets 6000mcg of biotin daily and OoO several times a

day. He can't take GSE cause of seizure meds.

He doesn't wanna sleep. He's been running and laughing since 2:00am.

He's always hyper but this is extreme, dangerous hyper. The last time

he acted like this was last year when the neuro tried him on celexa

to control OCD. I took him off of it after 2 months of the celexa

because of this behavior. I found out recently that the hyperness

meant the celexa was working and we was seeing the real him.

I was wondering if the OLE and Lysine is fixing the OCD maybe thats

why he can't be still. This is the exact same behavior as before with

the celexa. What will it take to calm him down? Does viral/yeast die-

off or overgrowth cause the hyperactivity? Isn't taurine suppose to

be calming, he takes 250 mgs twice daily. Should I up it some?

He has alot of the symptoms of adrenal fatigue too. Could this be

causing some problems? After last night I almost wanted to start the

clomipramine today. The clomipramine is suppose to raise serotonin

levels. What could I try that would be a good substitute?

Thanks,

Amy

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>

> My son is so hyper he can't be still. He constantly runs through the

> house, jumps on the couch and bed laughing hysterically.

This meant yeast overgrowth at my house.

>> I started

> the OLE+Lysine 2 days ago (2 hours apart). I thought maybe it was

> yeast but he gets 6000mcg of biotin daily and OoO several times a

> day. He can't take GSE cause of seizure meds.

Yes, OLE and lysine [also good to use vitamin C] are very good at

addressing viruses. However, viral die off caused massive amounts of

yeast here.

Try increasing the biotin. Your dose is minimal. You can also

increase the OoO.

You can reduce the OLE/lysine, that will tend to reduce the yeast.

> I was wondering if the OLE and Lysine is fixing the OCD maybe thats

> why he can't be still.

Anti-virals did eliminate OCD at my house, but the yeast they caused

was tremendous, more yeast than even with chelation.

> He has alot of the symptoms of adrenal fatigue too.

Info here

http://www.drrind.com/adrensupport.asp

Dana

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> Don't be so sure the yeast is under control. I have been getting back

> all the lab reports from my sons first blood/fecal/urine work-ups.

> His yeast was through the roof! The most wonderful thing I discovered

> is that they also tested what HIS yeast was resistant or susseptable

> to. His had become resistant to the OoO and a few others. So I

> picked up some caprylic acid yesterday. Whoa!!! DIE OFF!!

>

> anyway, my point being, it's true, you really must keep rotating your

> yeast fighters, or the resistant one just keep growin'

>

> -Jenna

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I just got my oldest son's CDSA back, and haven't used

anything on him other than diflucan, probi's and sacc

b, but his sensitivities testing showed his strains

were resistant to Oregano, tanalbit and uva ursi (non

RX). also to Itraconazole (RX). Said things it was

not resistant to are:

berberine, caprylic acid, goldenseal, undecylenic acid

(non RX). also to fluconazole, ketoconazole, nystatin

(RX).

maybe something on this list can help someone with

rotation.

--- Jenna <jennaj13@...> wrote:

>

>

> > Don't be so sure the yeast is under control. I

> have been getting back

> > all the lab reports from my sons first

> blood/fecal/urine work-ups.

> > His yeast was through the roof! The most

> wonderful thing I discovered

> > is that they also tested what HIS yeast was

> resistant or susseptable

> > to. His had become resistant to the OoO and a few

> others. So I

> > picked up some caprylic acid yesterday. Whoa!!!

> DIE OFF!!

> >

> > anyway, my point being, it's true, you really must

> keep rotating your

> > yeast fighters, or the resistant one just keep

> growin'

> >

> > -Jenna

>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Amy

He's been on the biotin for about 3 months and the OoO for about a

month now. Would it be resistant already?

====>Yep, sure could be, some of the things that worked great for yeast became

obsolete within a few weeks to a month.

And this " don't rotate antiyeast supplements " doesn't make sense to me, you're

supposed to keep giving what no longer works? I'm sure missing something here

and I've gone round and round with this in my head, thinking of both the reasons

people say to rotate and Andy says not to rotate.

But what is your option when what you have been giving and has been

working...is no longer working?

Amy

>

>

>

> > Don't be so sure the yeast is under control. I have been getting

back

> > all the lab reports from my sons first blood/fecal/urine work-

ups.

> > His yeast was through the roof! The most wonderful thing I

discovered

> > is that they also tested what HIS yeast was resistant or

susseptable

> > to. His had become resistant to the OoO and a few others. So I

> > picked up some caprylic acid yesterday. Whoa!!! DIE OFF!!

> >

> > anyway, my point being, it's true, you really must keep rotating

your

> > yeast fighters, or the resistant one just keep growin'

> >

> > -Jenna

>

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you could be having more yeast die off too and that would be a reason for the

change. I would just up the biotin.

Re: [ ] Re: Hyper!! Make him Stop!

----- Original Message -----

From: Amy

He's been on the biotin for about 3 months and the OoO for about a

month now. Would it be resistant already?

====>Yep, sure could be, some of the things that worked great for yeast became

obsolete within a few weeks to a month.

And this " don't rotate antiyeast supplements " doesn't make sense to me, you're

supposed to keep giving what no longer works? I'm sure missing something here

and I've gone round and round with this in my head, thinking of both the reasons

people say to rotate and Andy says not to rotate.

But what is your option when what you have been giving and has been working...is

no longer working?

Amy

>

>

>

> > Don't be so sure the yeast is under control. I have been getting

back

> > all the lab reports from my sons first blood/fecal/ urine work-

ups.

> > His yeast was through the roof! The most wonderful thing I

discovered

> > is that they also tested what HIS yeast was resistant or

susseptable

> > to. His had become resistant to the OoO and a few others. So I

> > picked up some caprylic acid yesterday. Whoa!!! DIE OFF!!

> >

> > anyway, my point being, it's true, you really must keep rotating

your

> > yeast fighters, or the resistant one just keep growin'

> >

> > -Jenna

>

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If you are not giving him some trace minerals, I think it is worth

trying. Kirkman has a supplement called MinerAll which has Ca, Mg

plus many trace minerals.

For example, Lithium and Chromium deficiency can cause hyper activity.

When I checked dmpsbackfire.com, the side-effects were mostly

associated with mineral and trace mineral depletion. So, one could

conclude that probably DMPS will do the same and deplete the body of

these minerals.

I have seen very good results with supplementing trace minerals. I

have not gotten around checking the blood or urine levels of thses

minerals yet. Hopefully, I'll do it soon.

Kaylee

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Don't be so sure the yeast is under control. I have been

> getting

> > back

> > > > all the lab reports from my sons first blood/fecal/ urine

work-

> > ups.

> > > > His yeast was through the roof! The most wonderful thing I

> > discovered

> > > > is that they also tested what HIS yeast was resistant or

> > susseptable

> > > > to. His had become resistant to the OoO and a few others. So

I

> > > > picked up some caprylic acid yesterday. Whoa!!! DIE OFF!!

> > > >

> > > > anyway, my point being, it's true, you really must keep

> rotating

> > your

> > > > yeast fighters, or the resistant one just keep growin'

> > > >

> > > > -Jenna

> > >

> >

> >

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>

> My son is so hyper he can't be still. He constantly runs through the

> house, jumps on the couch and bed laughing hysterically. I started

> the OLE+Lysine 2 days ago (2 hours apart). I thought maybe it was

> yeast but he gets 6000mcg of biotin daily and OoO several times a

> day. He can't take GSE cause of seizure meds.

My son got horribly hyper with antiviral treatment too. It might be yeast

despite what you're

giving him -- antivirals, especially OLE, IME, cause a ton of yeast. Possibly

even

uncontrollable yeast.

I would add whatever other antifungals you've got, see if that helps, and reduce

the dosage

of the lysine/OLE. If that doesn't work I'd stop the antivirals, chelate some

more, and try

again later.

Nell

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You might also try adding some folic acid. Helped with hyper from

immune system stuff alot here.

Anne

> >

> > My son is so hyper he can't be still. He constantly runs through

the

> > house, jumps on the couch and bed laughing hysterically. I

started

> > the OLE+Lysine 2 days ago (2 hours apart). I thought maybe it was

> > yeast but he gets 6000mcg of biotin daily and OoO several times a

> > day. He can't take GSE cause of seizure meds.

>

> My son got horribly hyper with antiviral treatment too. It might be

yeast despite what you're

> giving him -- antivirals, especially OLE, IME, cause a ton of

yeast. Possibly even

> uncontrollable yeast.

>

> I would add whatever other antifungals you've got, see if that

helps, and reduce the dosage

> of the lysine/OLE. If that doesn't work I'd stop the antivirals,

chelate some more, and try

> again later.

>

> Nell

>

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>

> He's been on the biotin for about 3 months and the OoO for about a

> month now. Would it be resistant already?

Yeast won't become resistant to biotin. Possibly OoO.

Dana