Re: Anyone use Ketocanazole for Yeast?

[Guest guest]

Hello,

The side effects weren't too bad with this one for us. But it wasn't as good

as Diflucan either. It did the job though - improved my son's sensory issues,

giggling and sleep as well as urinary accidents.

I read that it is tougher on the liver than Diflucan is. So make sure that is

monitored.

Hope this helps.

thedyes <threebabygirs@...> wrote:

My doctor prescribed 1 month of Ketocanzole to help fight yeast? Just

wanted to know if anyone had any luck with this or bad side effects?

Thanks, Sheila

[Guest guest]

Can treating yeast with prescription antifungals help with sensory issues as

well? My boys are very hyposensitive and very sensory seeking. They are ALWAYS

on the move and havea hard time sitting down to focus or even enjoy properly

playing with toys. Can treating yeast help with these issues?

Pattison <egerpatt@...> wrote: Hello,

The side effects weren't too bad with this one for us. But it wasn't as good as

Diflucan either. It did the job though - improved my son's sensory issues,

giggling and sleep as well as urinary accidents.

I read that it is tougher on the liver than Diflucan is. So make sure that is

monitored.

Hope this helps.

thedyes <threebabygirs@...> wrote:

My doctor prescribed 1 month of Ketocanzole to help fight yeast? Just

wanted to know if anyone had any luck with this or bad side effects?

Thanks, Sheila

[Guest guest]

Yes - this has clearly been my experience. The trouble is, well I guess it

depends how severe your boys' issues are to begin with. My son's yeast is

pretty bad...and this has prevented us from doing too much good chelation that

he needs b/c chelation will bring on more yeast....so we would have yeast under

control (by the Ketoconazole or other stuff for yeast), then we would chelate,

then the yeast would get out of control,so we would stop chelating so that we

can get the yeast back down. Point is, if you chelate (but too often yeast

protocols need to be upped for other reasons than chelation; i.e. a virus can

throw off an already compromised immune system and allow yeast to grow back in),

you need to watch yeast. So as the yeast is better, your boys' sensory issues

may improve. You also have to watch that bacteria do not overgrow as a result

of wiping out yeast. So you have to use a good probiotic in combination with

the Ketoconazole (bot give these hours away from

the Ketoconazole).

I have often been amazed by what a good yeast protocol can do in terms of

sensory issues and receptive language. My son at these times is acting like a

neurotypical child, except, well, that he does not talk.

dana pope <danamichellepope@...> wrote:

Can treating yeast with prescription antifungals help with sensory

issues as well? My boys are very hyposensitive and very sensory seeking. They

are ALWAYS on the move and havea hard time sitting down to focus or even enjoy

properly playing with toys. Can treating yeast help with these issues?

Pattison <egerpatt@...> wrote: Hello,

The side effects weren't too bad with this one for us. But it wasn't as good as

Diflucan either. It did the job though - improved my son's sensory issues,

giggling and sleep as well as urinary accidents.

I read that it is tougher on the liver than Diflucan is. So make sure that is

monitored.

Hope this helps.

thedyes <threebabygirs@...> wrote:

My doctor prescribed 1 month of Ketocanzole to help fight yeast? Just

wanted to know if anyone had any luck with this or bad side effects?

Thanks, Sheila

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much! We actually have Nystatin but I have yet to use it with them.

We have not used any prescription antifungals yet, but I noticed every time they

would get an upper respiratory infection yeast type issues would come back full

force. One of my boys will not sit on the toilet because he acts like he is

afraid he is going to fall. Heights or being off solid ground are a major issue

for him and so potty training has been out. What is a good probiotic to use?

Right now we are using goat yogurt made with progurt and acidophilus capsules.

Pattison <egerpatt@...> wrote:

Yes - this has clearly been my experience. The trouble is, well I guess it

depends how severe your boys' issues are to begin with. My son's yeast is pretty

bad...and this has prevented us from doing too much good chelation that he needs

b/c chelation will bring on more yeast....so we would have yeast under control

(by the Ketoconazole or other stuff for yeast), then we would chelate, then the

yeast would get out of control,so we would stop chelating so that we can get the

yeast back down. Point is, if you chelate (but too often yeast protocols need to

be upped for other reasons than chelation; i.e. a virus can throw off an already

compromised immune system and allow yeast to grow back in), you need to watch

yeast. So as the yeast is better, your boys' sensory issues may improve. You

also have to watch that bacteria do not overgrow as a result of wiping out

yeast. So you have to use a good probiotic in combination with the Ketoconazole

(bot give these hours away from

the Ketoconazole).

I have often been amazed by what a good yeast protocol can do in terms of

sensory issues and receptive language. My son at these times is acting like a

neurotypical child, except, well, that he does not talk.

dana pope <danamichellepope@...> wrote:

Can treating yeast with prescription antifungals help with sensory issues as

well? My boys are very hyposensitive and very sensory seeking. They are ALWAYS

on the move and havea hard time sitting down to focus or even enjoy properly

playing with toys. Can treating yeast help with these issues?

Pattison <egerpatt@...> wrote: Hello,

The side effects weren't too bad with this one for us. But it wasn't as good as

Diflucan either. It did the job though - improved my son's sensory issues,

giggling and sleep as well as urinary accidents.

I read that it is tougher on the liver than Diflucan is. So make sure that is

monitored.

Hope this helps.

thedyes <threebabygirs@...> wrote:

My doctor prescribed 1 month of Ketocanzole to help fight yeast? Just

wanted to know if anyone had any luck with this or bad side effects?

Thanks, Sheila

[Guest guest]

>

> My doctor prescribed 1 month of Ketocanzole to help fight yeast? Just

> wanted to know if anyone had any luck with this or bad side effects?

> Thanks, Sheila

>

Hi Sheila,

Have you tried to contain this with supplements first??

After one round of Keto we only saw a mild decrease in our son's

yeast, and disproportionately high increase in Clostridia/bacterials.

Aggressive use of probiotics and supplements seem to have kicked the

@$$ of both of the above rather impressively. Things that seem to

have worked here include probiotics like:

Sac-B

Threelac

Primal Defense Ultra

Culturelle

etc

and supplements like

Grapefruit Seed Extract (try a few drops of the one suggested by

dana of Dana's view for only a few days)

[we also used several others, but I'm not looking at the bottles

now, and this brain is tired after a long day]

Some enzymes (No-Fenol?) from Houston Nutriceuticals and (Candidase

from) Enzymedica apparently help breakdown the yeast walls which will

help further if you need it.

Take the probiotics on an empty stomach an hour before meals and 2

hours after meals at every available slot during the day. (e.g. first

thing in the AM, last thing in the PM, and 2-3 more times during the day).

Dana/Andy would probably recommend biotin to help control yeast as

well, and apparently have found good success with it.

I can't tell you which of the above that we used was essential in

doing the trick for our son, but I can tell you that the yeast die-off

was something else. You might want some charcoal capsules around...

You can scale down the above when the issue abates.

Best of luck.

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>

> I can't tell you which of the above that we used was essential in

> doing the trick for our son, but I can tell you that the yeast die-

off

> was something else. You might want some charcoal capsules around...

>

What was die-off like at your house?

Anne

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Ketoconazole is another name for Nizoral.

Used by many of our kids.

>

> My doctor prescribed 1 month of Ketocanzole to help fight yeast?

Just

> wanted to know if anyone had any luck with this or bad side effects?

> Thanks, Sheila

>

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I am hoping my child will be the same. Sheila

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Subject: [ ] Anyone use Ketocanazole for Yeast?

My doctor prescribed 1 month of Ketocanzole to help fight yeast? Just

wanted to know if anyone had any luck with this or bad side effects?

Thanks, Sheila

[Guest guest]

> Can treating yeast with prescription antifungals help with sensory

issues as well? My boys are very hyposensitive and very sensory

seeking. They are ALWAYS on the move and havea hard time sitting down

to focus or even enjoy properly playing with toys. Can treating yeast

help with these issues?

Probably 1/3 to 1/2 of my #3's sensory issues were related to yeast.

I used non-prescription tho.

Dana

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> My son's yeast is pretty bad...and this has prevented us from doing too much

good

chelation that he needs b/c chelation will bring on more yeast....so we would

have yeast

under control (by the Ketoconazole or other stuff for yeast), then we would

chelate, then the

yeast would get out of control,so we would stop chelating so that we can get the

yeast back

down.

Yep. One thing that can help is observing the exact pattern of yeast during

chelation -- does

it hit the afternoon of the second day? Or whenever -- and then increase your

yeastkillers a

little before that.

Yeast got a lot better at about round 55. Never any die-off, often just a dose

or two of GSE

with immediate improvement. Considering how bad things used to be, that was an

amazing

improvement.

Nell

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> >

> >

> > I can't tell you which of the above that we used was essential in

> > doing the trick for our son, but I can tell you that the yeast die-

> off

> > was something else. You might want some charcoal capsules around...

> >

> What was die-off like at your house?

>

Lots of moaning about an upset stomach, bed wetting, irritability and

seemed to be uncomfortable/wanting to come out of his skin, etc.

[search this list and the danasview site for other anti-fungals and

anti-bacterials like Pau D'Arco, Biocidin, Lauricidin, caprycillic

acid, Oil of Oregano, etc. We rotated those every 3-4 days to mimic

what Dana described and it worked wonderfully.]

The charcoal helped the stomach.

As hard as that is to watch/support, you'll really like the results

soon afterwards (within 2 days, I'd say).

Every kid has different tolerances for things like probiotics, and

even that varied over time here as his gut improved. Initially he

might have diarrhea when we gave him too large of a dose of probiotics

before he could handle it. [That's common, and the only side-effect

I've heard mentioned.] Later, he might get a tummy ache if the

probiotics were a bit much. Empty stomach, as described before...

Best of luck. Be aggressive, figure out what works, and keep a strict

schedule. Eventually you'll win if you're vigilant.