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> Does anyone know if direct labs has a test that is accurate for

> minerals/vitamins for a mercury toxic child?

>

I haven't heard of one, though I am interested to see if others have.

I have, on a few occasions, browsed their test offerings and wondered

whether any were really helpful in any significant measure for our

purposes.

What kinds of problems is your child having that suggests to you an

excess or deficit in some mineral(s)?

Anne

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My 20/m old son just started DMSA last week. He did great on the 3 days on. The

first day off was good also just a bit clingy. I have been real diligent about

his supplements but on the 2nd day off he started to really stimm visually and

it has been getting better when I had just been doing his supplements before

starting. Then he started squinting and really rubbing pushing on his eyes.

Never saw this before. A few people said it could be calcium. His hair test

showed very low calcium but I know that doesn't mean much. I want to up his

calcium but am afraid if its not the calcium, he will get too much.

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>

> Does anyone know if direct labs has a test that is accurate for

> minerals/vitamins for a mercury toxic child?

>

I haven't heard of one, though I am interested to see if others have.

I have, on a few occasions, browsed their test offerings and wondered

whether any were really helpful in any significant measure for our

purposes.

What kinds of problems is your child having that suggests to you an

excess or deficit in some mineral(s)?

Anne

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http://www.directlabs.com/triad.php

This one looks interesting….if you are up for a blood draw. For the little

guy we only do testing using urine, but now this is something I could

consider for myself.

If you just want a general test for essential elements just do “essential

and toxic elements” test or it may be called something else on DD

Chris

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> Does anyone know if direct labs has a test that is accurate for

> minerals/vitamins for a mercury toxic child?

>

I haven't heard of one, though I am interested to see if others have.

I have, on a few occasions, browsed their test offerings and wondered

whether any were really helpful in any significant measure for our

purposes.

What kinds of problems is your child having that suggests to you an

excess or deficit in some mineral(s)?

Anne

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Some of the eye stuff for us is definitely yeast. Even if you had a

decent protocol in place before the round, chelation may have kicked

up enough yeast to make a difference. Is that something to consider?

Have you looked to see what Andy says low calcium in the hair means?

You might consider putting in some of the basics from the Vitamin K

protocol at low doses. One of the main goals of that protocol is to

help regulate calcium. Many of our kids have calcium disregulation

problems. In the short term, if it were me, I would definitely give

some supplemental calcium while chelating, especially if using

DMSA. Lead stores in the bones, and as you pull it out, you want to

give yourself the best shot of replacing the removed lead with

calcium. You might give small amounts often throughout the day for

a little while to see if you can't work up to a comfortable and

effective place for you and your son.

Best,

Anne

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> > Does anyone know if direct labs has a test that is accurate for

> > minerals/vitamins for a mercury toxic child?

> >

> I haven't heard of one, though I am interested to see if others

have.

> I have, on a few occasions, browsed their test offerings and

wondered

> whether any were really helpful in any significant measure for our

> purposes.

>

> What kinds of problems is your child having that suggests to you

an

> excess or deficit in some mineral(s)?

>

> Anne

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>

>

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Nutrient & Toxic Elements DLS Price $249

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Was wondering if this might work. Its a blood test??

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> Does anyone know if direct labs has a test that is accurate for

> minerals/vitamins for a mercury toxic child?

>

I haven't heard of one, though I am interested to see if others have.

I have, on a few occasions, browsed their test offerings and wondered

whether any were really helpful in any significant measure for our

purposes.

What kinds of problems is your child having that suggests to you an

excess or deficit in some mineral(s)?

Anne

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Thank you : ) I think I will up it a little tommorow. I did give him a bit more

with his fourth dose today. I have Kirkmans liquid so I put it in his juice or

formula four times a day with his milk thistle. I also have been supplementing

biotin and probiotics to keep yeast at bay. You could be right though. I still

havn't gotten Andy's book so I havn't read the calcium information : ( I need

to order it soon. Looking forward to reading it. I was planning on 2nd round

DMSA and adding ALA tommorrow as he will be off 5 days. Not sure now, but I

suppose its worse if I dont keep going. ARGGG

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Some of the eye stuff for us is definitely yeast. Even if you had a

decent protocol in place before the round, chelation may have kicked

up enough yeast to make a difference. Is that something to consider?

Have you looked to see what Andy says low calcium in the hair means?

You might consider putting in some of the basics from the Vitamin K

protocol at low doses. One of the main goals of that protocol is to

help regulate calcium. Many of our kids have calcium disregulation

problems. In the short term, if it were me, I would definitely give

some supplemental calcium while chelating, especially if using

DMSA. Lead stores in the bones, and as you pull it out, you want to

give yourself the best shot of replacing the removed lead with

calcium. You might give small amounts often throughout the day for

a little while to see if you can't work up to a comfortable and

effective place for you and your son.

Best,

Anne

> >

> > Does anyone know if direct labs has a test that is accurate for

> > minerals/vitamins for a mercury toxic child?

> >

> I haven't heard of one, though I am interested to see if others

have.

> I have, on a few occasions, browsed their test offerings and

wondered

> whether any were really helpful in any significant measure for our

> purposes.

>

> What kinds of problems is your child having that suggests to you

an

> excess or deficit in some mineral(s)?

>

> Anne

>

>

>

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If anything, you might just hold at DMSA for this next round, if

only to make sure you don't confuse the issue too much.

Biotin and probiotics are not enough in my house. It seems to me

that a kid has to be pretty high functioning, or pretty intolerant,

or at a pretty good place, to just need those. Have you tried OOO

or GSE, or one of those to see if it does anything?

Anne

> > >

> > > Does anyone know if direct labs has a test that is accurate

for

> > > minerals/vitamins for a mercury toxic child?

> > >

> > I haven't heard of one, though I am interested to see if others

> have.

> > I have, on a few occasions, browsed their test offerings and

> wondered

> > whether any were really helpful in any significant measure for

our

> > purposes.

> >

> > What kinds of problems is your child having that suggests to you

> an

> > excess or deficit in some mineral(s)?

> >

> > Anne

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> > Does anyone know if direct labs has a test that is accurate for

> > minerals/vitamins for a mercury toxic child?

> >

> I haven't heard of one, though I am interested to see if others

have.

> I have, on a few occasions, browsed their test offerings and

wondered

> whether any were really helpful in any significant measure for our

> purposes.

>

> What kinds of problems is your child having that suggests to you

an

> excess or deficit in some mineral(s)?

>

> Anne

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>

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No what is OOO? O was told gse was pretty harsh so was trying to stay away from

that if possible.

: )

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If anything, you might just hold at DMSA for this next round, if

only to make sure you don't confuse the issue too much.

Biotin and probiotics are not enough in my house. It seems to me

that a kid has to be pretty high functioning, or pretty intolerant,

or at a pretty good place, to just need those. Have you tried OOO

or GSE, or one of those to see if it does anything?

Anne

> > >

> > > Does anyone know if direct labs has a test that is accurate

for

> > > minerals/vitamins for a mercury toxic child?

> > >

> > I haven't heard of one, though I am interested to see if others

> have.

> > I have, on a few occasions, browsed their test offerings and

> wondered

> > whether any were really helpful in any significant measure for

our

> > purposes.

> >

> > What kinds of problems is your child having that suggests to you

> an

> > excess or deficit in some mineral(s)?

> >

> > Anne

> >

> >

> >

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OOO - Oil of Oregano

We use GSE - I wasn't aware it was harsh. We use the liquid and always

dilute, it doesn't take much.

P.

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> No what is OOO? O was told gse was pretty harsh so was trying to stay

> away from that if possible.

> : )

>

> [ ] Re: anyone know a test

>

> If anything, you might just hold at DMSA for this next round, if

> only to make sure you don't confuse the issue too much.

>

> Biotin and probiotics are not enough in my house. It seems to me

> that a kid has to be pretty high functioning, or pretty intolerant,

> or at a pretty good place, to just need those. Have you tried OOO

> or GSE, or one of those to see if it does anything?

>

> Anne

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone know if direct labs has a test that is accurate

> for

> > > > minerals/vitamins for a mercury toxic child?

> > > >

> > > I haven't heard of one, though I am interested to see if others

> > have.

> > > I have, on a few occasions, browsed their test offerings and

> > wondered

> > > whether any were really helpful in any significant measure for

> our

> > > purposes.

> > >

> > > What kinds of problems is your child having that suggests to you

> > an

> > > excess or deficit in some mineral(s)?

> > >

> > > Anne

> > >

> > >

> > >

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http://www.holisticheal.com/store/home.php?cat=117

We order our tests through here and both are urine and test what you are

looking for if you don't want to draw blood. MAP and UTEE, I think you can

call the office and you can order through Dr. Yasko and not really be a

patient of hers but I am not sure she will personally comment on it if you

have not done genetics but both will tell you about the essential elements

you are looking at. MAP is just more comprehensive. At any rate the lab

does a really nice write up and those comments are very easy to understand

and they use Doctors Data. Amino Acids (UAA) is nice to have as well. We

do the UTEE once a month just to keep track of minerals and metals

excretion. The others we just do twice a year to tweak our supplements.

Chris

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> > Does anyone know if direct labs has a test that is accurate for

> > minerals/vitamins for a mercury toxic child?

> >

> I haven't heard of one, though I am interested to see if others

have.

> I have, on a few occasions, browsed their test offerings and

wondered

> whether any were really helpful in any significant measure for our

> purposes.

>

> What kinds of problems is your child having that suggests to you

an

> excess or deficit in some mineral(s)?

>

> Anne

>

>

>

>

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> Does anyone know if direct labs has a test that is accurate for

> minerals/vitamins for a mercury toxic child?

One of my favorite test is an OAT (urine organic acids). Although it

does not test directly for minerals/vitamins, you can deduct them from

the markers.

It is this one:

http://www.directlabs.com/testtypes.php#organic

http://www.directlabs.com/PDFfiles/SampleOrganix.pdf

http://www.metametrix.com/DirectoryOfServices/pdf/pdf_guide_0091OrganixComprehen\

sive-Urine.pdf

It is also 80% covered by my medical insurance.

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oil of oregano

--- Largey <l.largey@...> wrote:

> No what is OOO? O was told gse was pretty harsh so

> was trying to stay away from that if possible.

> : )

>

> [ ] Re: anyone know a test

>

> If anything, you might just hold at DMSA for this

> next round, if

> only to make sure you don't confuse the issue too

> much.

>

> Biotin and probiotics are not enough in my house. It

> seems to me

> that a kid has to be pretty high functioning, or

> pretty intolerant,

> or at a pretty good place, to just need those. Have

> you tried OOO

> or GSE, or one of those to see if it does anything?

>

> Anne

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone know if direct labs has a test

> that is accurate

> for

> > > > minerals/vitamins for a mercury toxic child?

> > > >

> > > I haven't heard of one, though I am interested

> to see if others

> > have.

> > > I have, on a few occasions, browsed their test

> offerings and

> > wondered

> > > whether any were really helpful in any

> significant measure for

> our

> > > purposes.

> > >

> > > What kinds of problems is your child having that

> suggests to you

> > an

> > > excess or deficit in some mineral(s)?

> > >

> > > Anne

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Thanks so much to everyone who helped on this question. It was sooo helpful and

I dont feel quite so lost anymore. I was thinking how the minerals are not

accurate from the hair test so how does one know if a child is high in copper?

His hair test placed copper pretty much in the middle, but that means nothing if

I am correct? Thank thankthank you all for your help very much

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> If anything, you might just hold at DMSA for this

> next round, if

> only to make sure you don't confuse the issue too

> much.

>

> Biotin and probiotics are not enough in my house. It

> seems to me

> that a kid has to be pretty high functioning, or

> pretty intolerant,

> or at a pretty good place, to just need those. Have

> you tried OOO

> or GSE, or one of those to see if it does anything?

>

> Anne

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone know if direct labs has a test

> that is accurate

> for

> > > > minerals/vitamins for a mercury toxic child?

> > > >

> > > I haven't heard of one, though I am interested

> to see if others

> > have.

> > > I have, on a few occasions, browsed their test

> offerings and

> > wondered

> > > whether any were really helpful in any

> significant measure for

> our

> > > purposes.

> > >

> > > What kinds of problems is your child having that

> suggests to you

> > an

> > > excess or deficit in some mineral(s)?

> > >

> > > Anne

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Hello,

My uncle know a man very well at this lab and my uncle has been

helping with researching treatments for my son. I had this test ran

that is a mineral assay and toxic metals done from the hair from the

nap of the neck. One problem is his results are very different than

other labs like this labs proper result for calcium is 40. So you

would not be able to compare the result to other test - I have my son

second hair sample ready to go to the lab so I can compare the to

tests. The one really nice thing is the cost $65. So I guess I am

happy with the results compared to the cost and found the report easy

to read. I got the diet plan done for $30 but I am going to skip that

this time. The lab can be found at www.arltma.com . Analytical

ressearch labs, inc. 602 995-1580 I called the lab they sent me a

kit and I did the hair cut - I am not sure if they want a doctors

following the results or not since my uncle set it up. I was happy

with this. I hope this helps you. My 2 cents Ann

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>>Then he started squinting and really rubbing pushing on his eyes.

Never saw this before. A few people said it could be calcium. His hair

test showed very low calcium but I know that doesn't mean much. I want

to up his calcium but am afraid if its not the calcium, he will get

too much.

How much do you give now?

Calcium needs magnesium, vitamin D, vitamin K, and oddly, lysine, for

proper absorption. Do you give those?

Dana

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