Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 My son has many OCD behaviors and I started him on 5-HTP a few weeks ago at 33mg. In a few days he became very silly and hyper. I cut back the dose to 16mg and the silliness and hyperactivity has faded. I haven't seen any decrease in OCD behaviors yet and am thinking of upping the dose again to 33mg and was wondering what others have tried dose wise. I think I have read that some have used much higher doses? Has anyone else seen hyperness initially on 5-HTP? Any other ideas I might try for OCD? I have tried Threelac and getting rid of nearly all the sugar from his diet and haven't noticed any changes. Thanks. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I think Andy recommends inositol before 5-HTP. Could also be bacterial or viral. Anne > > My son has many OCD behaviors and I started him on 5-HTP a few weeks > ago at 33mg. In a few days he became very silly and hyper. I cut > back the dose to 16mg and the silliness and hyperactivity has faded. > I haven't seen any decrease in OCD behaviors yet and am thinking of > upping the dose again to 33mg and was wondering what others have tried > dose wise. I think I have read that some have used much higher doses? > Has anyone else seen hyperness initially on 5-HTP? > > Any other ideas I might try for OCD? I have tried Threelac and > getting rid of nearly all the sugar from his diet and haven't noticed > any changes. Thanks. > > Dave > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Dave, For my little grandson OCD is ALWAYS strep. It rarely shows on a rapid strep test and sometimes does not show on a long culture. However, it clears readily with antibiotics. As an aside: based on the above, I been 'begging' for my daughter to get some help with strep. Her dad is a carrier; rheumatic fever runs in my side of the family. ASO titers have been non alarming in the past. However, a anti-dnase just came back over 4 times adult high. This daughter also has OCD. I'm a believer in the strep theory. - > > My son has many OCD behaviors and I started him on 5-HTP a few weeks > ago at 33mg. In a few days he became very silly and hyper. I cut > back the dose to 16mg and the silliness and hyperactivity has faded. > I haven't seen any decrease in OCD behaviors yet and am thinking of > upping the dose again to 33mg and was wondering what others have tried > dose wise. I think I have read that some have used much higher doses? > Has anyone else seen hyperness initially on 5-HTP? > > Any other ideas I might try for OCD? I have tried Threelac and > getting rid of nearly all the sugar from his diet and haven't noticed > any changes. Thanks. > > Dave > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dave, On the GFCF board I have learned that OCD is viral. Have you tried using Olive Leaf Extract? That and Vitamin C are good and so is Lysine but you don't want to give the OLE with the Lysine. The amino acids glycine, lysine, histadine, and cysteine (including n-acetyl-l-cysteine ) may interfere with the action of one of the components of Olive Leaf Extract. So don't give OLE within 2 hours of those aminos. Also OLE will cause yeast issues so you will want to give something for that. [ ] Re: 5-HTP dosing questions Dave, For my little grandson OCD is ALWAYS strep. It rarely shows on a rapid strep test and sometimes does not show on a long culture. However, it clears readily with antibiotics. As an aside: based on the above, I been 'begging' for my daughter to get some help with strep. Her dad is a carrier; rheumatic fever runs in my side of the family. ASO titers have been non alarming in the past. However, a anti-dnase just came back over 4 times adult high. This daughter also has OCD. I'm a believer in the strep theory. - > > My son has many OCD behaviors and I started him on 5-HTP a few weeks > ago at 33mg. In a few days he became very silly and hyper. I cut > back the dose to 16mg and the silliness and hyperactivity has faded. > I haven't seen any decrease in OCD behaviors yet and am thinking of > upping the dose again to 33mg and was wondering what others have tried > dose wise. I think I have read that some have used much higher doses? > Has anyone else seen hyperness initially on 5-HTP? > > Any other ideas I might try for OCD? I have tried Threelac and > getting rid of nearly all the sugar from his diet and haven't noticed > any changes. Thanks. > > Dave > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 I certainly think OCD can be viral, but it can also be bacterial. Sometimes different deficiencies/problems manifest in similar behaviors. > > > > My son has many OCD behaviors and I started him on 5-HTP a few weeks > > ago at 33mg. In a few days he became very silly and hyper. I cut > > back the dose to 16mg and the silliness and hyperactivity has faded. > > I haven't seen any decrease in OCD behaviors yet and am thinking of > > upping the dose again to 33mg and was wondering what others have > tried > > dose wise. I think I have read that some have used much higher doses? > > Has anyone else seen hyperness initially on 5-HTP? > > > > Any other ideas I might try for OCD? I have tried Threelac and > > getting rid of nearly all the sugar from his diet and haven't noticed > > any changes. Thanks. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ _______________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php? category=shopping > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dave - Does your son has anxiety too? For OCD and anxiety Andy recommends Adrenal Cortex extract. My son benefitted tremendously from ACE and his OCD behaviours & anxiety subsided a lot with ACE. Once in a while he still have those(could be viral as Anne said), but no comparision to what he used to have earlier. May be this post from Andy may help you. http://onibasu.com/archives/am/195792.html Madhuri > > My son has many OCD behaviors and I started him on 5-HTP a few weeks > ago at 33mg. In a few days he became very silly and hyper. I cut > back the dose to 16mg and the silliness and hyperactivity has faded. > I haven't seen any decrease in OCD behaviors yet and am thinking of > upping the dose again to 33mg and was wondering what others have tried > dose wise. I think I have read that some have used much higher doses? > Has anyone else seen hyperness initially on 5-HTP? > > Any other ideas I might try for OCD? I have tried Threelac and > getting rid of nearly all the sugar from his diet and haven't noticed > any changes. Thanks. > > Dave > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 You should rule out PANDAS for OCD behavior. Pamela " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared. " Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Dave A. Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 1:10 PM Subject: [ ] 5-HTP dosing questions My son has many OCD behaviors and I started him on 5-HTP a few weeks ago at 33mg. In a few days he became very silly and hyper. I cut back the dose to 16mg and the silliness and hyperactivity has faded. I haven't seen any decrease in OCD behaviors yet and am thinking of upping the dose again to 33mg and was wondering what others have tried dose wise. I think I have read that some have used much higher doses? Has anyone else seen hyperness initially on 5-HTP? Any other ideas I might try for OCD? I have tried Threelac and getting rid of nearly all the sugar from his diet and haven't noticed any changes. Thanks. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Please read this before you rule it out! http://www.enzymestory.com/PANDAS.html [ ] 5-HTP dosing questions My son has many OCD behaviors and I started him on 5-HTP a few weeks ago at 33mg. In a few days he became very silly and hyper. I cut back the dose to 16mg and the silliness and hyperactivity has faded. I haven't seen any decrease in OCD behaviors yet and am thinking of upping the dose again to 33mg and was wondering what others have tried dose wise. I think I have read that some have used much higher doses? Has anyone else seen hyperness initially on 5-HTP? Any other ideas I might try for OCD? I have tried Threelac and getting rid of nearly all the sugar from his diet and haven't noticed any changes. Thanks. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 For my daughters OCD and anxiety(she's ASD)I use choline & Inositol capsules (500mg (250mg each)) I give 2 capsules in the morning and at bedtime (she's 12) and it does help alot. I have read that large doses of these helped OCD symptoms but I have seen much improvement on this dose so I haven't increased. We started working with a new Dr. and went down to just Choline but it by itself did not help her. She also responds well to Theanine - I cannot praise Theanine (amino acid found in green tea)enough. The calming effect it has is amazing, I even take it myself. I do like the 5-htp, it helps my son out quite a bit (he's 14). 5-htp and Theanine has pretty much stopped him from having tics. Good Luck Coffin mcoffin@... > > > > My son has many OCD behaviors and I started him on 5-HTP a few > weeks > > ago at 33mg. In a few days he became very silly and hyper. I cut > > back the dose to 16mg and the silliness and hyperactivity has > faded. > > I haven't seen any decrease in OCD behaviors yet and am thinking > of > > upping the dose again to 33mg and was wondering what others have > tried > > dose wise. I think I have read that some have used much higher > doses? > > Has anyone else seen hyperness initially on 5-HTP? > > > > Any other ideas I might try for OCD? I have tried Threelac and > > getting rid of nearly all the sugar from his diet and haven't > noticed > > any changes. Thanks. > > > > Dave > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Dave, I am benefiting from all the responses to your posts, sorry for your son's struggles with this, but glad you posted. I just wanted to say that my son reacts the same way to 5htp. We tried giving it to him at night to help with sleep and after a couple of nights, it just reved him up. Donna > > My son has many OCD behaviors and I started him on 5-HTP a few weeks > ago at 33mg. In a few days he became very silly and hyper. I cut > back the dose to 16mg and the silliness and hyperactivity has faded. > I haven't seen any decrease in OCD behaviors yet and am thinking of > upping the dose again to 33mg and was wondering what others have tried > dose wise. I think I have read that some have used much higher doses? > Has anyone else seen hyperness initially on 5-HTP? > > Any other ideas I might try for OCD? I have tried Threelac and > getting rid of nearly all the sugar from his diet and haven't noticed > any changes. Thanks. > > Dave > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Hi , I have had titers for strep checked in the past and they came back negative. How were you able to determine when there is a strep problem? Thanks. Dave > > > > My son has many OCD behaviors and I started him on 5-HTP a few weeks > > ago at 33mg. In a few days he became very silly and hyper. I cut > > back the dose to 16mg and the silliness and hyperactivity has faded. > > I haven't seen any decrease in OCD behaviors yet and am thinking of > > upping the dose again to 33mg and was wondering what others have > tried > > dose wise. I think I have read that some have used much higher doses? > > Has anyone else seen hyperness initially on 5-HTP? > > > > Any other ideas I might try for OCD? I have tried Threelac and > > getting rid of nearly all the sugar from his diet and haven't noticed > > any changes. Thanks. > > > > Dave > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Hi , I haven't tried Olive Leaf Extract. It sounds like a good idea. Thanks. Dave > > > > My son has many OCD behaviors and I started him on 5-HTP a few weeks > > ago at 33mg. In a few days he became very silly and hyper. I cut > > back the dose to 16mg and the silliness and hyperactivity has faded. > > I haven't seen any decrease in OCD behaviors yet and am thinking of > > upping the dose again to 33mg and was wondering what others have > tried > > dose wise. I think I have read that some have used much higher doses? > > Has anyone else seen hyperness initially on 5-HTP? > > > > Any other ideas I might try for OCD? I have tried Threelac and > > getting rid of nearly all the sugar from his diet and haven't noticed > > any changes. Thanks. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ _______________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php? category=shopping > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Madhuri, Thanks for the post and I will try Adrenal Cortex soon. Dave > > > > My son has many OCD behaviors and I started him on 5-HTP a few > weeks > > ago at 33mg. In a few days he became very silly and hyper. I cut > > back the dose to 16mg and the silliness and hyperactivity has > faded. > > I haven't seen any decrease in OCD behaviors yet and am thinking > of > > upping the dose again to 33mg and was wondering what others have > tried > > dose wise. I think I have read that some have used much higher > doses? > > Has anyone else seen hyperness initially on 5-HTP? > > > > Any other ideas I might try for OCD? I have tried Threelac and > > getting rid of nearly all the sugar from his diet and haven't > noticed > > any changes. Thanks. > > > > Dave > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Pamela, Thank for the reply and we did a test for Strep titers and few years ago during a period of strong OCD behaviors and they came back negative. Is the titer test a good way to rule out PANDAS? Dave > > You should rule out PANDAS for OCD behavior. > > > > Pamela > > " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless > you're scared. " > > Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI > > > > _____ > > From: [mailto:Autism- Mercury ] > On Behalf Of Dave A. > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 1:10 PM > > Subject: [ ] 5-HTP dosing questions > > > > My son has many OCD behaviors and I started him on 5-HTP a few weeks > ago at 33mg. In a few days he became very silly and hyper. I cut > back the dose to 16mg and the silliness and hyperactivity has faded. > I haven't seen any decrease in OCD behaviors yet and am thinking of > upping the dose again to 33mg and was wondering what others have tried > dose wise. I think I have read that some have used much higher doses? > Has anyone else seen hyperness initially on 5-HTP? > > Any other ideas I might try for OCD? I have tried Threelac and > getting rid of nearly all the sugar from his diet and haven't noticed > any changes. Thanks. > > Dave > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 , Thanks for the weblink and there is some very good information on it. Dave > > Please read this before you rule it out! > http://www.enzymestory.com/PANDAS.html > > [ ] 5-HTP dosing questions > > My son has many OCD behaviors and I started him on 5-HTP a few weeks > ago at 33mg. In a few days he became very silly and hyper. I cut > back the dose to 16mg and the silliness and hyperactivity has faded. > I haven't seen any decrease in OCD behaviors yet and am thinking of > upping the dose again to 33mg and was wondering what others have tried > dose wise. I think I have read that some have used much higher doses? > Has anyone else seen hyperness initially on 5-HTP? > > Any other ideas I might try for OCD? I have tried Threelac and > getting rid of nearly all the sugar from his diet and haven't noticed > any changes. Thanks. > > Dave > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Your very welcome! [ ] 5-HTP dosing questions > > My son has many OCD behaviors and I started him on 5-HTP a few weeks > ago at 33mg. In a few days he became very silly and hyper. I cut > back the dose to 16mg and the silliness and hyperactivity has faded. > I haven't seen any decrease in OCD behaviors yet and am thinking of > upping the dose again to 33mg and was wondering what others have tried > dose wise. I think I have read that some have used much higher doses? > Has anyone else seen hyperness initially on 5-HTP? > > Any other ideas I might try for OCD? I have tried Threelac and > getting rid of nearly all the sugar from his diet and haven't noticed > any changes. Thanks. > > Dave > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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