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Also - is it possible that Biotin would kick in immediately and change the

entire demeanor of a very upset child?

It sure appeared like a miracle to me.

Thanks for sharing any experiences!

Pattison <egerpatt@...> wrote:

Hi,

Just wanted to give a quick update on this and ask a Q re. biotin. Despite all

my attempts to only do one supp. at a time, I decided to 3 changes. The reason

being a very uncomfortable, spitting, OCD child.

So per NAET doctor, I added zinc back in 20 mg per day in addition to multi, at

night. I know for this to work (for the spitting) you need to give a few days,

which I did (about 3 days). The spitting continued with perhaps somewhat lesser

intensity. At the same time, Evan went through a bug, or a virus went through

him, which manifested in fever and diarrhea. He is still home b/c of the

diarrhea. He has been very rigid and tantrumy now for about 2 weeks, which may

have been the beginning of this virus, and has been a major complaint besides

the spitting. Anyhow, I started giving HIGH doses of Inositol, as someone

suggested I would, and the intensity of my sons rigidity and tantrums decreased

by about 60%. I upped the inositol just yesterday. I also added Biotin (4 mg

divided into 2 doses) accodrding to Dana, and took Uva Ursi out. Now I am not

sure if this is possible at all but I had a smiling and calmly sleeping child

within 2-3 hours of giving him his first

dose last night. He slept really well, not squeezing me and tortured by

anxiety....He keeps smiling today. Still spitting though. But what a change from

the anxious and upset child I had before!

So thanks for all the advice to everyone.......I did have one more question -

how far up can you go with biotin, and do you have to rotate that or can I just

keep him on that? I am happy with how my son's acting and feeling right now but

once we start detox, I know yeast will go up. Can I up the biotin, or would you

do something else then?

Anyhow, thanks so much for everyone's advice. All have been so helpful!

Pattison

15819 Fernway Rd

Shaker Heights, OH 44120

home (216)752-5978

cell (216)544-1231

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Glad to hear about the turn around!

Also consider that the uva ursi might have been a real problem.

That is some pretty strong stuff.

Anne

> Hi,

>

> Just wanted to give a quick update on this and ask a Q re. biotin.

Despite all my attempts to only do one supp. at a time, I decided to

3 changes. The reason being a very uncomfortable, spitting, OCD

child.

>

> So per NAET doctor, I added zinc back in 20 mg per day in addition

to multi, at night. I know for this to work (for the spitting) you

need to give a few days, which I did (about 3 days). The spitting

continued with perhaps somewhat lesser intensity. At the same time,

Evan went through a bug, or a virus went through him, which

manifested in fever and diarrhea. He is still home b/c of the

diarrhea. He has been very rigid and tantrumy now for about 2 weeks,

which may have been the beginning of this virus, and has been a

major complaint besides the spitting. Anyhow, I started giving HIGH

doses of Inositol, as someone suggested I would, and the intensity

of my sons rigidity and tantrums decreased by about 60%. I upped the

inositol just yesterday. I also added Biotin (4 mg divided into 2

doses) accodrding to Dana, and took Uva Ursi out. Now I am not sure

if this is possible at all but I had a smiling and calmly sleeping

child within 2-3 hours of giving him his first

> dose last night. He slept really well, not squeezing me and

tortured by anxiety....He keeps smiling today. Still spitting

though. But what a change from the anxious and upset child I had

before!

>

> So thanks for all the advice to everyone.......I did have one more

question - how far up can you go with biotin, and do you have to

rotate that or can I just keep him on that? I am happy with how my

son's acting and feeling right now but once we start detox, I know

yeast will go up. Can I up the biotin, or would you do something

else then?

>

> Anyhow, thanks so much for everyone's advice. All have been so

helpful!

>

>

>

>

> Pattison

>

> 15819 Fernway Rd

> Shaker Heights, OH 44120

> home (216)752-5978

> cell (216)544-1231

>

>

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Hi Anne,

Thanks very much!! I agree, perhaps the Uva Ursi was a problem, too. This

stuff is sort of hard to figure out...I mean, what is hardest for me to do is

changing 1 variable at a time.

To be more scientific and accurate, I shold have just taken out the Uva for a

few days, then add biotin, then add something else... you see, it would have

been a long time for my guy to wait to get better. I guess over a period of

time you develop a sense of what's doing what for your kiddo, despite the lack

of a pure scientific approach....

Thank you again!

anneecbrynn <anneecbrynn@...> wrote:

Glad to hear about the turn around!

Also consider that the uva ursi might have been a real problem.

That is some pretty strong stuff.

Anne

> Hi,

>

> Just wanted to give a quick update on this and ask a Q re. biotin.

Despite all my attempts to only do one supp. at a time, I decided to

3 changes. The reason being a very uncomfortable, spitting, OCD

child.

>

> So per NAET doctor, I added zinc back in 20 mg per day in addition

to multi, at night. I know for this to work (for the spitting) you

need to give a few days, which I did (about 3 days). The spitting

continued with perhaps somewhat lesser intensity. At the same time,

Evan went through a bug, or a virus went through him, which

manifested in fever and diarrhea. He is still home b/c of the

diarrhea. He has been very rigid and tantrumy now for about 2 weeks,

which may have been the beginning of this virus, and has been a

major complaint besides the spitting. Anyhow, I started giving HIGH

doses of Inositol, as someone suggested I would, and the intensity

of my sons rigidity and tantrums decreased by about 60%. I upped the

inositol just yesterday. I also added Biotin (4 mg divided into 2

doses) accodrding to Dana, and took Uva Ursi out. Now I am not sure

if this is possible at all but I had a smiling and calmly sleeping

child within 2-3 hours of giving him his first

> dose last night. He slept really well, not squeezing me and

tortured by anxiety....He keeps smiling today. Still spitting

though. But what a change from the anxious and upset child I had

before!

>

> So thanks for all the advice to everyone.......I did have one more

question - how far up can you go with biotin, and do you have to

rotate that or can I just keep him on that? I am happy with how my

son's acting and feeling right now but once we start detox, I know

yeast will go up. Can I up the biotin, or would you do something

else then?

>

> Anyhow, thanks so much for everyone's advice. All have been so

helpful!

>

>

>

>

> Pattison

>

> 15819 Fernway Rd

> Shaker Heights, OH 44120

> home (216)752-5978

> cell (216)544-1231

>

>

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Yes, I know all too well what you mean. I am no good at the one at

a time thing either, though it does get easier.

Anne

> > Hi,

> >

> > Just wanted to give a quick update on this and ask a Q re.

biotin.

> Despite all my attempts to only do one supp. at a time, I decided

to

> 3 changes. The reason being a very uncomfortable, spitting, OCD

> child.

> >

> > So per NAET doctor, I added zinc back in 20 mg per day in

addition

> to multi, at night. I know for this to work (for the spitting) you

> need to give a few days, which I did (about 3 days). The spitting

> continued with perhaps somewhat lesser intensity. At the same

time,

> Evan went through a bug, or a virus went through him, which

> manifested in fever and diarrhea. He is still home b/c of the

> diarrhea. He has been very rigid and tantrumy now for about 2

weeks,

> which may have been the beginning of this virus, and has been a

> major complaint besides the spitting. Anyhow, I started giving

HIGH

> doses of Inositol, as someone suggested I would, and the intensity

> of my sons rigidity and tantrums decreased by about 60%. I upped

the

> inositol just yesterday. I also added Biotin (4 mg divided into 2

> doses) accodrding to Dana, and took Uva Ursi out. Now I am not

sure

> if this is possible at all but I had a smiling and calmly sleeping

> child within 2-3 hours of giving him his first

> > dose last night. He slept really well, not squeezing me and

> tortured by anxiety....He keeps smiling today. Still spitting

> though. But what a change from the anxious and upset child I had

> before!

> >

> > So thanks for all the advice to everyone.......I did have one

more

> question - how far up can you go with biotin, and do you have to

> rotate that or can I just keep him on that? I am happy with how my

> son's acting and feeling right now but once we start detox, I know

> yeast will go up. Can I up the biotin, or would you do something

> else then?

> >

> > Anyhow, thanks so much for everyone's advice. All have been so

> helpful!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Pattison

> >

> > 15819 Fernway Rd

> > Shaker Heights, OH 44120

> > home (216)752-5978

> > cell (216)544-1231

> >

> >

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>>I also added Biotin (4 mg divided into 2 doses) accodrding to Dana,

and took Uva Ursi out. Now I am not sure if this is possible at all

but I had a smiling and calmly sleeping child within 2-3 hours of

giving him his first

> dose last night.

Great!

> So thanks for all the advice to everyone.......I did have one more

question - how far up can you go with biotin,

At one point, I was giving my son 20mg 3x per day.

>>and do you have to rotate that or can I just keep him on that?

It is the B vitamin that is manufactured by the good bacteria. It

does not need to be rotated.

I used GSE to eliminate yeast [when biotin alone was not enough]. I

never had to rotate that either.

Dana

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