2nd Round of Chelation-When in cycle do I test for metals?

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>

> Hello Listmates,

> I am into my second round (second day of 3 days on 3 days off) of

> ALA/DMSA chlelation with my autistic son and I am wanting to test for

> metals excretion.

Don't bother.

> Would you do a one time urine collection toward the

> end of the 3rd day or would you do a 24 hour collection?

Always do a 24 hour collection if you want such a test to have any meaning at

all.

> What is the

> best way to determine what if any excretion my son is getting?

He's excreting, all mammals do that when given chelators. Not doing so is not

compatible

with life. Thus he is alive, you gave him a chelator, he's excreting heavy

metals.

Pay attention to whether he gets better from chelation, don't dabble at mad

scientist and

enrich the lab getting numbers you won't know what to do with, and that have

surprisingly

little meaning anyway.

> Thank

> you for your help.

>

[Guest guest]

>>>If you really MUST test (for your sanity - I did a few times) then start the

24 hour collection with first morning urine on Day 2. I always got 'best' pulls

showing on tests from 4 hours post first dose - starting Friday at 4.00pm and

collecting from first morning urine Saturday. Use Doctors Data not Genova, you

can access that without medic from www.directlabs.com and say you are meber of

the autism group and you'll get a small discount.?

HTH

Mandi in UK

>

> Hello Listmates,

> I am into my second round (second day of 3 days on 3 days off) of

> ALA/DMSA chlelation with my autistic son and I am wanting to test for

> metals excretion.

Don't bother.

> Would you do a one time urine collection toward the

> end of the 3rd day or would you do a 24 hour collection?

Always do a 24 hour collection if you want such a test to have any meaning at

all.

> What is the

> best way to determine what if any excretion my son is getting?

He's excreting, all mammals do that when given chelators. Not doing so is not

compatible

with life. Thus he is alive, you gave him a chelator, he's excreting heavy

metals.

Pay attention to whether he gets better from chelation, don't dabble at mad

scientist and

enrich the lab getting numbers you won't know what to do with, and that have

surprisingly

little meaning anyway.

> Thank

> you for your help.

>

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You've already gotten the response - the point here is that there are no norms.

How would you know what it means unless you could compare the level of

mercury that comes out of a poisoned person vs. the level that comes out of a

non-poisoned person, and then get some statistical value that says, over this

level, you're poisoned, over this level you're very poisoned, over this level

you're extremely poisoned ... ? The thing is, we dont' have that. We don't

even have an a-priori way to tell who is poisoned.

For me, the most useful thing has been to keep a journal. That way, I can both

tell what is working and what is not, and I can also tell what is improving and

what not. At the front, I made a list of symptoms. Every once in a while, I

realize that something else that I thought was just me, is really another

symptom. I usually realize that as it begins to disappear! I also know some

people take videos of their kids, so they can compare as they proceed.

Dave.

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Posted by: " alexhigdon9966 " alexhigdon9966@... alexhigdon9966

Date: Sat Jun 7, 2008 7:00 pm ((PDT))

Hello Listmates,

I am into my second round (second day of 3 days on 3 days off) of

ALA/DMSA chlelation with my autistic son and I am wanting to test for

metals excretion. Would you do a one time urine collection toward the

end of the 3rd day or would you do a 24 hour collection? What is the

best way to determine what if any excretion my son is getting? Thank

you for your help.