Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I can't confirm it but my son had 2 rounds of steroids before he was 2 yo. The first time he had an allergic reaction to something (I think it was the 12 mth vaccine) and the second was when he had mono at age 22 mths. I wish that I had of known then what I know now! Janet Janet my little man http://health.ph./group/ /photos/browse/60ac ************** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I can't find the source now, but I believe I read something recently about a connection between the use of steroids such as prednisone etc causing or contributing to autism. Does anyone have any info on this; true or not, sources, etc? Andy know about this? Thanks, Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I don't know if that is true or not, but what I do know is that prednisone, prednisolone both suppress immune function. My opinion is that..that is not a good idea. They usually give it to deal with inflammation problems or infections that won't go away. (as in my case). However, I read the list of side effects..didn't like it. I asked around about prednisolone on HormonesandHealthNaturally... in their files...this is what it says: That prednisolone is actually laboratory altered corstione. Drug companies could not patent cortisone, so they chose to alter it into something else and name it, and patent that to make money. However, prednisolone is not the same to the body as the cortisone is make itself. So for one with supressed adrenals which contributes to chronic infection..it would be smarter if they just gave out cortisone tapers. As for Autism...who can say, other than anything that suppressed the immune system would be problematic. > > I can't find the source now, but I believe I read something recently > about a connection between the use of steroids such as prednisone etc > causing or contributing to autism. Does anyone have any info on this; > true or not, sources, etc? Andy know about this? > > Thanks, > Michele > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Just wanted to chime in that my DAN! prescribed prednisone for inflammation of my son's brain. It is a month long tapered doese (starts at 6 ml...ends at .5 ml) I heard things also about side effects and was hesitant, but have not seen any in him. I'm not sure about long term use though. Jada <paxlforme@...> wrote: I don't know if that is true or not, but what I do know is that prednisone, prednisolone both suppress immune function. My opinion is that..that is not a good idea. They usually give it to deal with inflammation problems or infections that won't go away. (as in my case). However, I read the list of side effects..didn't like it. I asked around about prednisolone on HormonesandHealthNaturally... in their files...this is what it says: That prednisolone is actually laboratory altered corstione. Drug companies could not patent cortisone, so they chose to alter it into something else and name it, and patent that to make money. However, prednisolone is not the same to the body as the cortisone is make itself. So for one with supressed adrenals which contributes to chronic infection..it would be smarter if they just gave out cortisone tapers. As for Autism...who can say, other than anything that suppressed the immune system would be problematic. > > I can't find the source now, but I believe I read something recently > about a connection between the use of steroids such as prednisone etc > causing or contributing to autism. Does anyone have any info on this; > true or not, sources, etc? Andy know about this? > > Thanks, > Michele > ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 > > I can't find the source now, but I believe I read something recently > about a connection between the use of steroids such as prednisone etc > causing or contributing to autism. Prednisone caused some terrible side effects for my son (rage, violence) so I guess you could say it contributed to his autistic symptoms. Without the viral/metal problems though, he may have been able to metabolize it better. Well, without viruses/metals, he'd likely not have had the breathing trouble that led to the prednisone in the first place. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 > Hmmm. Very interesting. My NT daughter had a psychotic reaction to > prednisolone. Outbursts of wild, intense emotion, clawing at face, screaming. > They acted surprised at the ped office. Even hesitant to list it in her file > as an allergy. > > I wonder if I should have her tested for metals, if that is what intensifies > the response to steroids. It was an asthma treatment, BTW. > > > > > > >> > >> > I can't find the source now, but I believe I read something recently >> > about a connection between the use of steroids such as prednisone etc >> > causing or contributing to autism. > > Prednisone caused some terrible side effects for my son (rage, violence) so I > guess you could > say it contributed to his autistic symptoms. Without the viral/metal problems > though, he may > have been able to metabolize it better. Well, without viruses/metals, he'd > likely not have had > the breathing trouble that led to the prednisone in the first place. > > Nell > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 > > > Hmmm. Very interesting. My NT daughter had a psychotic reaction to > > prednisolone. Outbursts of wild, intense emotion, clawing at face, screaming. > > They acted surprised at the ped office. Even hesitant to list it in her file > > as an allergy. My former ped acted surprised too, but the nurses at the ER seemed to know all about that reaction. > > > > I wonder if I should have her tested for metals, if that is what intensifies > > the response to steroids. It was an asthma treatment, BTW. My son's asthma disappeared at some point during chelation. Totally gone. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 > Wow. Thank you. I switched her over to almond milk recently, because I > thought dairy was contributing to her asthma also. > > Thanks, > > > > > >> > >>> > > Hmmm. Very interesting. My NT daughter had a psychotic reaction to >>> > > prednisolone. Outbursts of wild, intense emotion, clawing at face, >>> screaming. >>> > > They acted surprised at the ped office. Even hesitant to list it in her >>> file >>> > > as an allergy. > > My former ped acted surprised too, but the nurses at the ER seemed to know all > about that > reaction. >>> > > >>> > > I wonder if I should have her tested for metals, if that is what >>> intensifies >>> > > the response to steroids. It was an asthma treatment, BTW. > > My son's asthma disappeared at some point during chelation. Totally gone. > > Nell > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 I asked this because I've been wondering about our non vaccinated kids. Two didn't have any vaccs or antibiotics directly, although I did at the birth so they got some through me. They went downhill particularly after weaning, as did all of them so far. They are very high functioning, & even though I knew there was something up with one son most didn't see what I saw. It was confirmed last year though. Probably asperger's in both. 2yo had a condition at birth & becz of treatment had antibiotics. He also had respitory issues his first year & had steroids/anti inflammatories twice in his first year, once more late last year. He was weaned early last year & had already been delayed in speech. After weaning he lost all speech & started stimming & acting " autistic " . Tested positive for yeast. Dh & others don't see the value in chelating them; I do, but it's just hard to explain there are other sources, especially without minimizing the effects of the vaccines on our oldest, who is severe. Thanks, Michele > >> > > >>> > > Hmmm. Very interesting. My NT daughter had a psychotic reaction to > >>> > > prednisolone. Outbursts of wild, intense emotion, clawing at face, > >>> screaming. > >>> > > They acted surprised at the ped office. Even hesitant to list it in her > >>> file > >>> > > as an allergy. > > > > My former ped acted surprised too, but the nurses at the ER seemed to know all > > about that > > reaction. > >>> > > > >>> > > I wonder if I should have her tested for metals, if that is what > >>> intensifies > >>> > > the response to steroids. It was an asthma treatment, BTW. > > > > My son's asthma disappeared at some point during chelation. Totally gone. > > > > Nell > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 --- We did not have our son DX but he had steriods for croup at a very early age he was loaded with LEAD and a rhogam shot.Plus what ever i gave him in his womb. HE never had antibiotics. He was our third child. HE did not talk untill 16 months with the help of b12 shots. We have chelated him and he is a jatterbox and is meeting all milestones. ITs all a deadly combination. Jess MOM 3 boys all biomedical intervention In , " special6mom " <hugs4Him99@...> wrote: > > I can't find the source now, but I believe I read something recently > about a connection between the use of steroids such as prednisone etc > causing or contributing to autism. Does anyone have any info on this; > true or not, sources, etc? Andy know about this? > > Thanks, > Michele > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Steroid would have lowered his immune function and this could contribute to the problem. And of course, we know antibiotics are a trigger factor. Do you have amalgam metal fillings? If so they could have gotten Hg through that in utero and in breast milk. However, the breast milk also offers some protection from the Hg, which may be why the symptoms appeared after weaning. The protective effects were lost. As for dh not thinking chelation would help..what have you to lose?? Sit by and do nothing..or try something that might help? I found that I had to go it on my own, since I did not have family support. Once my dh saw the changes in my son then he realized I was doing the right thing. Also coal fired power plants, fish, the dang air for peats sake...are all sources as well as your own metal burden which dumps into the babies during pregnancy. Fetus are found to have higher levels of Hg than their mothers. And since you now have TWO children with issues...it really can't hurt to try it. They are young and the potential to recover them is good. If you have not already you may wish to get hair tests done to see if there is Lead or aluminum or whatever else in them. While the treatment is the same, sometimes showing hubby on paper...will help. Mine didn't believe me until I showed him the test..and then he knew we had no choice but to chelate. > > >> > > > >>> > > Hmmm. Very interesting. My NT daughter had a psychotic > reaction to > > >>> > > prednisolone. Outbursts of wild, intense emotion, clawing > at face, > > >>> screaming. > > >>> > > They acted surprised at the ped office. Even hesitant to > list it in her > > >>> file > > >>> > > as an allergy. > > > > > > My former ped acted surprised too, but the nurses at the ER > seemed to know all > > > about that > > > reaction. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > I wonder if I should have her tested for metals, if that is > what > > >>> intensifies > > >>> > > the response to steroids. It was an asthma treatment, BTW. > > > > > > My son's asthma disappeared at some point during chelation. > Totally gone. > > > > > > Nell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 I've posted here before on them; their hair tests are in a file now (4 kids - 13, 9, 5, 2yo). The feedback I got was they are all at least suspicious. I've acually got 4 ASD, oldest is severe (vacc injured; titres came back very high too recently), 9 & 5yo's are very high functioning. Seems to be gut damage I think. I've had candida for years; maybe that contributed to their issues. 2yo had the antibiotics & steroids & is on spectrum now too. Baby twins - one had antibiotics after birth; this time I'm giving them both infant probiotics, & nursing. I guess I've got to be ready for whatever. I gave him the feedback on the tests etc; I think it's tougher for him to digest. I do all the research since there's only so much time to do all this & he works. We need funding for all these treatments... Thanks, Michele > > > >> > > > > >>> > > Hmmm. Very interesting. My NT daughter had a psychotic > > reaction to > > > >>> > > prednisolone. Outbursts of wild, intense emotion, clawing > > at face, > > > >>> screaming. > > > >>> > > They acted surprised at the ped office. Even hesitant to > > list it in her > > > >>> file > > > >>> > > as an allergy. > > > > > > > > My former ped acted surprised too, but the nurses at the ER > > seemed to know all > > > > about that > > > > reaction. > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > I wonder if I should have her tested for metals, if that is > > what > > > >>> intensifies > > > >>> > > the response to steroids. It was an asthma treatment, BTW. > > > > > > > > My son's asthma disappeared at some point during chelation. > > Totally gone. > > > > > > > > Nell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Interesting question. Prednisone and yeast? Yeast and brain/gut and behavior??? Prednisone feeds yeast? Prednisone helps all those hiding viruses (from vaccines or wild) to keep doing their dirty work? measles viruses, herpes viruses, etc.? Prednisone site: Prednisone: What Should I Tell My Healthcare Provider? You should talk with your healthcare provider prior to taking prednisone if you have: * A systemic fungal infection (a fungal infection affecting the whole body) * Underactive thyroid (hypothyroidism) * Liver disease, such as liver failure or cirrhosis * Any signs of an infection * Diabetes * Osteoporosis * An ulcer * Myasthenia gravis * High blood pressure (hypertension) * Kidney disease, including kidney failure (renal failure) * Any allergies, including allergies to food, dyes, or preservatives. Another site: 9. Immune system One of the actions of prednisone is to weaken the body's immune system. This effect is beneficial when treating allergies or so-called " autoimmune " diseases like arthritis, lupus, ulcerative colitis and Crohn's disease. However, whenever you weaken the immune system, you increase the body's susceptibility to infection. Prednisone does not make an individual more likely to get a flu or catch a cold. But, it can increase susceptibility to chickenpox (varicella) and other herpes viruses. Individuals, who have recovered from tuberculosis, or TB, can experience reactivation of the disease when on prednisone. If you have not previously had chickenpox, tell your doctor. Do not take prednisone if you have tuberculosis (active or inactive), shingles or other herpes infection of eyes, lips, or genitals. You should not be vaccinated against any infectious disease while you are on prednisone especially live polio vaccine. Allergy skin tests and TB skin tests will usually be invalid while you are on prednisone. A small number of patients on prednisone develop yeast infections of the mouth (thrush) or vagina. Fortunately, effective medications are available to combat this problem should it occur. In , " special6mom " <hugs4Him99@...> wrote: > > I can't find the source now, but I believe I read something recently > about a connection between the use of steroids such as prednisone etc > causing or contributing to autism. Does anyone have any info on this; > true or not, sources, etc? Andy know about this? > > Thanks, > Michele > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 > > I wonder if I should have her tested for metals, if that is what intensifies > > the response to steroids. It was an asthma treatment, BTW. I took steroids for my asthma, they made me yeasty, which increased my asthma. I am taking several supplements, including ALA, which has eliminated my asthma almost entirely. Now I have only had an asthma problem once in the last year, and it was after a cold, and it was caused by the yeast which was caused by the viral die off. So I took GSE and the asthma was gone. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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