Re: Re: repost ( 4th round pink cheeks/nose)

January 18, 2008

ok thank you. We do have cast iron we use for cooking but for my son is not

eating real solid foods yet or red meat. I will check out onibasu..thanks

[ ] Re: repost ( 4th round pink cheeks/nose)

I think Andy has talked about the iron issue. Giving lots of

antioxidants, cooking on cast iron, not overcooking red meat, are

all natural ways to get natural iron in. Look in onibasu to see

what you can find, and maybe check his diet file.

Anne

>

> Ok we are in the middle of round four. Seems my son shows

reactions to

> things most by getting a red nose and cheeks. None of his

supplements

> have changed but just like last round at about mid way he has red

> cheeks and nose. This didn't happen with just the DMSA ( first 2

> rounds ) Maybe its a coincidence that its been since ALA? Not

looking

> to stop ALA just wondering if Anyone knows what it could be. He is

a

> bit hyper today ( fidgety ) not sleeping as well but doing great

in ABA

> therapy etc. Seems happy maybe a tiny bit more tired on rounds.

His

> blood ferritin test came back very low. Natural ways to up iron

intake

> absorption? Dont want to give iron supplements AT ALL. Thanks : )

>

> Oh ya he is on very low dose of both DMSA and ALA just under 1/8

mg per

> pound. Wanted to up it after 6 rounds

>

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January 18, 2008

Thanks for the input I appreciate it. That makes sense with the iron.He is on

no-phenol so maybe the yeast is going to show its ugly head. We tested stool

analysis as having no yeast problem before we started. I wonder if yeast can

become a problem this soon. He is just doing biotin and probiotics. I do have

garlic and GSE on hand in case. NOT looking forward to this. I know I need to

chelate him but I feel like kind of bad knowing its going to give him gut

problems when he didn't have then before : ( We use a low dose of melatonin

before bed and it has worked great.. but I have not had to give it to him at nap

time before and now I guess I will...I can tell he is tired but just so fidgety

and cant seem to settle his muscles down. I spent 15 minutes today giving him a

massage to get him to sleep...lol.. thanks for sharing your own experience it

makes me feel alot better.

[ ] Re: repost ( 4th round pink cheeks/nose)

Just wanted to give you some input on iron supplementation and metal

toxicity. Increasing iron intake naturally like your doing is ok.

Supplementing it however.... So you right to avoid the supplements.

As I read it in Andy's books:

Iron is toxic and also an oxidizer. People with mercury

toxicity..there bodies are under a lot of oxidative stress, one of the

ways the body handles this is to dump what oxidizers it can. Since it

cannot dump the mercury, it dumps the iron. Supplementing iron often

makes mercury toxic people feel worse, and does not correct the

imbalance. Once the mercury is lessened, the body will then correct

this imbalance by once again storing iron.

As for the red cheeks..fenols or yeast??

I found the being a bit fidgety on ALA can be part of it. I get that

way myself. It's like all the sudden I have a bit more energy, and I

can think clearly and I have all this ambition to get tons of things

done. Of course, once I stop the ALA....I got back to tired, don't

want to do much.

We also found that in the beginning of chelation, dmsa messed up

sleep. It was hard to fall asleep or stay asleep. We had to use

melatonin on rounds, and sometimes for a few nights after. For myself,

my son and daughter..all had this problem. My older NT child has to

take melatonin every night. My 5 yr old only needs it with rounds.

Same with me. But as we got on in chelation, I have noticed we need it

less, and they are able to sleep better. Being a tiny bit more tired

we found too. Naps are great, or giving some extra vitamin C.

> >

> > Ok we are in the middle of round four. Seems my son shows

> reactions to

> > things most by getting a red nose and cheeks. None of his

> supplements

> > have changed but just like last round at about mid way he has red

> > cheeks and nose. This didn't happen with just the DMSA ( first 2

> > rounds ) Maybe its a coincidence that its been since ALA? Not

> looking

> > t

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January 18, 2008

Thank u : ) How much GSE would you suggest I start him on he is 25 lbs. I have

no idea on this one. Also I read giving no-fenol righ before can be helpful?

[ ] Re: repost ( 4th round pink cheeks/nose)

>

> Just wanted to give you some input on iron supplementation and metal

> toxicity. Increasing iron intake naturally like your doing is ok.

> Supplementing it however.... So you right to avoid the supplements.

>

> As I read it in Andy's books:

> Iron is toxic and also an oxidizer. People with mercury

> toxicity..there bodies are under a lot of oxidative stress, one of the

> ways the body handles this is to dump what oxidizers it can. Since it

> cannot dump the mercury, it dumps the iron. Supplementing iron often

> makes mercury toxic people feel worse, and does not correct the

> imbalance. Once the mercury is lessened, the body will then correct

> this imbalance by once again storing iron.

>

> As for the red cheeks..fenols or yeast??

> I found the being a bit fidgety on ALA can be part of it. I get that

> way myself. It's like all the sudden I have a bit more energy, and I

> can think clearly and I have all this ambition to get tons of things

> done. Of course, once I stop the ALA....I got back to tired, don't

> want to do much.

> We also found that in the beginning of chelation, dmsa messed up

> sleep. It was hard to fall asleep or stay asleep. We had to use

> melatonin on rounds, and sometimes for a few nights after. For myself,

> my son and daughter..all had this problem. My older NT child has to

> take melatonin every night. My 5 yr old only needs it with rounds.

> Same with me. But as we got on in chelation, I have noticed we need it

> less, and they are able to sleep better. Being a tiny bit more tired

> we found too. Naps are great, or giving some extra vitamin C.

>

> > >

> > > Ok we are in the middle of round four. Seems my son shows

> > reactions to

> > > things most by getting a red nose and cheeks. None of his

> > supplements

> > > have changed but just like last round at about mid way he has red

> > > cheeks and nose. This didn't happen with just the DMSA ( first 2

> > > rounds ) Maybe its a coincidence that its been since ALA? Not

> > looking

> > > t

>

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January 18, 2008

Another thought, I just read that indigestion can cause dilation of the cheeks

and nose, wonder if that is at play here.