Guest guest Posted June 2, 2002 Report Share Posted June 2, 2002 Most excellent!!!!!!!! I am thrilled and can't wait to hear the news next month! This is sure a good sign though isn't it. [ ] sunscreen Hi all.. I did an experiment this weekend. I don't remember if I ever mentioned this, or if anybody else has experienced this. About 16 years ago I started having a problem where whenever I was out in the sun all day I got a rash on the back of my hands and my forearms. It itched like mad. I went to see a dr and from there a dermatologist. They did a biopsy (hurt like hell, too) and could never figure out what caused it. I have always had to put on super strong sunscreen whenever I would be out in the sun for any duration. Even an hour or so. Somehow it came up with my gastro and he told me that he thought it was probably caused by the hepatitis. He said they had recently discovered this problem, I guess the body cannot catalyse (?) sunlight properly. Anyway he told me that if I got rid of the hepatitis, the skin problem would probably go away too. Well, I was out Saturday all day working in the yard and garden and purposely did not put any sunscreen on. No rash. After all these years of religiously applying it, even 2, 3 times a day when on vacation, it gave me a great feeling to not get it. I am cautiously optimistic that the hcv is still in remission. I find out next month. -dz- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2002 Report Share Posted June 4, 2002 Dave my thoughts and prayers are with ya!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2002 Report Share Posted June 4, 2002 I am more than slightly cautiously optomistic. Can't wait till the news is concrete. Re: [ ] sunscreen I was pretty happy about it! I try not to get too psyched, I'll save that for when I get another undetectable reading, but it's certainly a positive sign! -dz- WILLIAM A WALTKE <kbwaltke@...> wrote: Most excellent!!!!!!!! I am thrilled and can't wait to hear the news next month! This is sure a good sign though isn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2002 Report Share Posted June 4, 2002 I was pretty happy about it! I try not to get too psyched, I'll save that for when I get another undetectable reading, but it's certainly a positive sign! -dz- WILLIAM A WALTKE <kbwaltke@...> wrote: Most excellent!!!!!!!! I am thrilled and can't wait to hear the news next month! This is sure a good sign though isn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 > > Hi Bee! i know you suggest coconut oil for sunscreen and moisturizer > (which I am using and love) but I was also wondering how often this > needs to be reapplied and what spf it was. I live in Cal and it is > very hot here and I sunburn easily. ==>It is most important that your exposure to the sun is gradual so you won't get burnt. I do not know if coconut oil has a spf rating however all spf claims are only to sell products. They all damage your skin and provide no benefit whatsoever. Do a search on www.mercola.com for more information. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 > Hi Bee! i know you suggest coconut oil for sunscreen and moisturizer > (which I am using and love) but I was also wondering how often this > needs to be reapplied and what spf it was. I live in Cal and it is > very hot here and I sunburn easily. > just me~ laura I am VERY light-skinned, and I've been to Florida twice in the last 7 months. Both times, I used coconut oil as my only sunscreen, and I was VERY surprised. Here in IN, if I get the least bit of " sun " , I get a red, itchy rash. I never stay out long enough to burn like I did when I was little. In FL though, I used the coconut oil religiously, and I did get pink both times I was there, but it didn't give me that itchy rash, and it wasn't too painful or anything -- just tender. Mind you, I'd gotten pink after spending several hours outside in the most intense sun -- the stuff that happens between 10 and 2. So although I can't answer your questions quantitatively, I can tell you that qualitatively, coconut oil works for even us " pasty-white " people. *sigh* in IN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 > > Bee, I have read a great deal about sunscreen and how it is not good > for you but having an active 7 year old it is nearly impossible to > avoid sunburns without some form of protection. It's hard to believe > there isn't a safe sunscreen on the market. What do you think of the > following product? > > http://www.aubrey-organics.com/product1.cfm?product_id=250 & cat=16 > ==>Hi Gord. No products that provide sun protection should be used. Use coconut oil instead. For more information search sunscreens at http://www.mercola.com. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Just writing to attest to the great protection of coconut oil. We spend lots of time fishing and the co has kept us from burning every time. And the skins browns beautifully as the co keeps the skin supple. Lather up before you go into the sun and carry a jar in the back pack for follow up coverage. Louise --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 The coconut oil sounds like a wonderful alternative to sunscreen. My concern is that I have had melanoma (removed successfully) and when you say the " skins brown beautifully " this concerns me a little because if the skin is browning the skin is still going through changes which I believe can still be harmful (especially to someone with a history of skin cancer. I'm not sure if I'd want to take the chance. Any thoughts? Best, Judi Until you make peace with who you are, you’ll never be content with what you have. —Doris Mortman -- Re: [ ] Re: Sunscreen Just writing to attest to the great protection of coconut oil. We spend lots of time fishing and the co has kept us from burning every time. And the skins browns beautifully as the co keeps the skin supple. Lather up before you go into the sun and carry a jar in the back pack for follow up coverage. Louise --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 --- louise, We tried this and attracted soo many bugs. Any solution on how to prevent that. sue The good Lord gave you a body that can stand almost anything. It's your mind you have convince~~Vince Lombardi Sue ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar./toolbar/features/norton/index.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 is there any other type of natural substance thatyou could use for a sunscreen? The coconut oil didnt work for us. It attracted to many bugs. thanks sue The good Lord gave you a body that can stand almost anything. It's your mind you have convince~~Vince Lombardi Sue ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545469 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Hi Sue, Try the CO that is without the coconut smell. I use Tropical Traditions Extra Virgin. Louise --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 > > The coconut oil sounds like a wonderful alternative to sunscreen. > My concern is that I have had melanoma (removed successfully) and when you say the " skins brown beautifully " this concerns me a little because if the skin is browning the skin is still going through changes which I believe can still be harmful (especially to someone with a history of skin cancer. I'm not sure if I'd want to take the chance. Any thoughts? ==>Hi Judi. I believe that melanoma and other skin diseases and issues are mainly due to toxins being released to the skin, i.e. moles, dark spots, skin tags, rashes, psoriasis and many others. The body purposely does this in order to protect vital inner organs. What happens with melanoma is that the body's immune system is no longer able to kill cancer cells like it was designed to do, and the skin candida was more than likely preceeded by candida or another similar fungus and malfunctions, even the body's cells not being constructed like they are supposed to be (see later on where I explain that). In other words, the spots on the skin didn't start out being melanoma but they evolved into it. Therefore it is very important to understand the true " cause " of skin cancer, and not to blame the sun without looking at the facts. For centuries our ancestors have been out in the sun and they didn't get skin cancer. Look at natives, farmers, and others who worked all day in the sun without anything other than their natural body oils. Of course it also helped them to not bathe or shower like we do today, which washes off natural body oils. The increase in cancer started going up when the food industry introduced unnatural oils and fats early in the 1900s. As people began to consume more and unnatural fats and oils, and consume less and less natural saturated fats and oils, skin and other cancers went up, up, up. The cholesterol myths didn't help either. The fact is that unnatural fats and oils are one of the major contributors to skin and other cancers today. Many body care products also contain these unnatural fats and oils. Not only are these fats and oils 1 molecule away from being plastic, making them toxic to the body, but also the body will incorporate them into the construction of the cell membranes, which makes them weak, where healthy saturated fats should be - all cells except lung cells need to be constructed out of 50% saturated fats (lung cells must be 100%). Another factor is the numbers of toxins our bodies are being loaded with. In other words, protecting your skin from the sun is not the way to avoid having skin cancer because the sun is not the cause, nor is browning of the skin. I hope that helps. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 So Bee: What would you suggest as a good sunscreen? Tracey Bee wrote: > > > > > > The coconut oil sounds like a wonderful alternative to sunscreen. > > My concern is that I have had melanoma (removed successfully) and > when you say the " skins brown beautifully " this concerns me a little > because if the skin is browning the skin is still going through > changes which I believe can still be harmful (especially to someone > with a history of skin cancer. I'm not sure if I'd want to take the > chance. Any thoughts? > > ==>Hi Judi. I believe that melanoma and other skin diseases and > issues are mainly due to toxins being released to the skin, i.e. > moles, dark spots, skin tags, rashes, psoriasis and many others. The > body purposely does this in order to protect vital inner organs. > What happens with melanoma is that the body's immune system is no > longer able to kill cancer cells like it was designed to do, and the > skin candida was more than likely preceeded by candida or another > similar fungus and malfunctions, even the body's cells not being > constructed like they are supposed to be (see later on where I > explain that). In other words, the spots on the skin didn't start > out being melanoma but they evolved into it. > > Therefore it is very important to understand the true " cause " of skin > cancer, and not to blame the sun without looking at the facts. For > centuries our ancestors have been out in the sun and they didn't get > skin cancer. Look at natives, farmers, and others who worked all day > in the sun without anything other than their natural body oils. Of > course it also helped them to not bathe or shower like we do today, > which washes off natural body oils. > > The increase in cancer started going up when the food industry > introduced unnatural oils and fats early in the 1900s. As people > began to consume more and unnatural fats and oils, and consume less > and less natural saturated fats and oils, skin and other cancers went > up, up, up. The cholesterol myths didn't help either. > > The fact is that unnatural fats and oils are one of the major > contributors to skin and other cancers today. Many body care > products also contain these unnatural fats and oils. Not only are > these fats and oils 1 molecule away from being plastic, making them > toxic to the body, but also the body will incorporate them into the > construction of the cell membranes, which makes them weak, where > healthy saturated fats should be - all cells except lung cells need > to be constructed out of 50% saturated fats (lung cells must be 100%). > > Another factor is the numbers of toxins our bodies are being loaded > with. In other words, protecting your skin from the sun is not the > way to avoid having skin cancer because the sun is not the cause, nor > is browning of the skin. > > I hope that helps. > Bee > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 --- Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote: > I believe that melanoma and other skin > diseases and > issues are mainly due to toxins being released to > the skin, This text is totally mindblowing and makes so much sense! Thanks Bee for explainign it to us. Personally, as a very pale Swede living in Southern California (Sweden is pitch black dark most of the year and has a weak sun only in the summer) I cover up because skin cancer or not, my skin burns immediately. So, hat, sun glasses and long sleves (long sleves even when I'm bathing in the ocean) has been the only way for me, but now I'll try the coconut oil. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. http://sims./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 > > > I believe that melanoma and other skin > > diseases and > > issues are mainly due to toxins being released to > > the skin, > > This text is totally mindblowing and makes so much > sense! Thanks Bee for explainign it to us. > Personally, as a very pale Swede living in Southern > California (Sweden is pitch black dark most of the > year and has a weak sun only in the summer) I cover up > because skin cancer or not, my skin burns immediately. > So, hat, sun glasses and long sleves (long sleves > even when I'm bathing in the ocean) has been the only > way for me, but now I'll try the coconut oil. ==>, it is also very important to gradually expose your skin to the sun so it is able to handle more sun without burning. So even with coconut oil you need to follow the gradual method of exposure, as with everything new. Farmers, natives, and others who work outside a lot are out in it everyday, which does allow gradual exposure as the sun changes season to season. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 > > So Bee: > > What would you suggest as a good sunscreen? ==>Hi Tracey. The idea that anyone needs the kind of sunscreens on the market today is false. Oils are good, unless you take infrequent baths or showers and have enough body oils built up on the skin, in which case you wouldn't need any oil or fat. The best is coconut oil or some other natural fat or oil like olive, lard or butter. But a person should always expose their skin to the sun gradually even if they apply a natural oil. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Hi , Just wanted to second what Bee says about gradual exposure. My sister accomplished this well. She was always very fair - blonde, pale, etc - (we look completely opposite; people usually don't believe we're really sisters). As a kid, she burned very easily. As a teenager, she got tired of burning all the time so she spent one summer building up her tolerance slowly. She laid out in the sun a little each day, but at first it was only for a few minutes! Really, maybe just 5-10 minutes! Then after a while (maybe a week or so), she'd stay out just a little longer, maybe 10-15 minutes. She increased her time in the sun VERY SLOWLY. She didn't burn once. And by the end of the summer, she was very tan (for the first time in her life). It seems that once she established her first tan, she's been able to tolerate sun ever since. That was about 15 years ago and she hasn't had a single sunburn since. Every summer, she tans well and is able to stay out in the sun (without any sunscreen or other protection) for several hours at a time. If I hadn't seen her go through the process, I wouldn't have believed it! So yes, gradual is the key. It is totally possible. Good luck in Tennessee > > > ==>, it is also very important to gradually expose your skin to > the sun so it is able to handle more sun without burning. So even > with coconut oil you need to follow the gradual method of exposure, > as with everything new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Just curious, what ingredients do you use to make your own lotions and creams? [ ] sunscreen Hi, I make my own lotions and creams and was going to make a sunscreen facial and body cream. I read that titanium dioxide is a natural mineral that has an SPF of 15 to 30. Any concerns with putting this on my skin? Would it be safe for the face and also for babies? Thanks, a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 >Just curious, what ingredients do you use to make your own lotions and creams? I don't use all of the following in each one, but these are all the ingredients I work with: Distilled Water, Aloe Vera Gel, Rose Hydrosol, Lavender Hydrosol, Emulsifying Wax (Vegetable Based), Beeswax, Olive Oil, Shea Butter, Jojoba Oil, Coconut Oil, Almond Oil, Carrot Seed Oil and Marula Oil (eye cream only), Cocoa Butter, and a variety of essential oils such as Tea Tree, Grapefruit, Peppermint, etc. I also have fragrances but don't use them for myself. Some people prefer a fragrance over essential oils. They pick either one fragrance or up to two essential oils per lotion. As a preservative I use Vitamin E Oil, Citric Acid (Vegetable Based), Grapefruit Seed Extract, and Vitamin C. And of course the coconut oil in the products is a natural anti-fungal, etc. as well. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 I helpful file to read is C) Sun & Sunscreen --- " a K. Carlton " <kristina.carlton@...> wrote: > > I make my own lotions and creams and was going to make a sunscreen facial and body cream. I read that titanium dioxide is a natural mineral that has an SPF of 15 to 30. Any concerns with putting this on my skin? Would it be safe for the face and also for babies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Candida Support Group by BeeDear a, Posted by: " a K. Carlton " kristina.carlton@... kotabuddy >I read that titanium dioxide is a natural mineral that has an SPF of 15 to 30. Any concerns with putting this on my skin? Would it be safe for the face and also for babies? =Anything that goes on the family, I wouldn't trust something that comes from the allopathic sector. I did a search for " titanium dioxide poisoning " and got several references. Titantanium dust was listed on one site as a " nuisance " and is combustible. It also cautioned " Action To Take For Spills (Use Appropriate Safety Equipment): Keep material separated from incompatible materials and sources of ignition. " http://www.titanium.com/titanium/tech_manual/tech16.cfm Naw, I wouldn't use it. Coconut oil is ok to use in the sun. The sun is good for us. > As a preservative I use Vitamin E Oil, Citric Acid (Vegetable Based), Grapefruit Seed Extract, and Vitamin C. And of course the coconut oil in the products is a natural anti-fungal, etc. as well. a =Citric Acid is an excellent sun block mixed in your coconut oil if you're going to be out more than 30 mins or your baby for more than 15. It is effective until you sweat or swim it off. Regards, Nan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 > As a preservative I >use Vitamin E Oil, Citric Acid (Vegetable Based), Grapefruit Seed Extract, >and Vitamin C. And of course the coconut oil in the products is a natural >anti-fungal, etc. as well. >a >=Citric Acid is an excellent sun block mixed in your coconut oil if you're going to be >out more than 30 mins or your baby for more than 15. It is effective until you sweat or swim it off. >Regards, >Nan Hi Nan, It's for a friend of mine who has had melanoma and is concerned for her kids as well as herself. I personally use coconut oil when I go out in the sun, but since she was asking about her baby and if I could make her something I wanted to be sure I give her something that will not cause her baby to get a sunburn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Both my daughters do not burn or get any color in the sun. One has an ASD diagnosis, the other is NT. I've always wondered if putting on sunscreen was still important to prevent skin cancer... If they are unaffected by sun, it would save lots of time and money to do away with sunscreen at least until they need it. Any ideas about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Or adhere to the traditional " Only mad dogs and Englishmen stay out in the midday sun' BUT make sure that you get full body exposure for at least 20 minutes outside the midday time times. Twenty minutes should give you 10,000 IU approximately in the summer sun. Reynolds schrieb: > > Two things to keep in mind: > > 1. A lot of people are now vitamin D deficient. A recent Australian > study found over 30% of newborn babies were starting life with a > significant vitamin D deficiency. > > 2. Most sunscreens have a lot of toxic poisons in them. So find > something organic and free of the nasty crap. > > Cheers > > > > royceabrams wrote: > > > > Both my daughters do not burn or get any color in the sun. One has an > > ASD diagnosis, the other is NT. I've always wondered if putting on > > sunscreen was still important to prevent skin cancer... > > > > If they are unaffected by sun, it would save lots of time and money to > > do away with sunscreen at least until they need it. > > > > Any ideas about this? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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