Re: OT - Safer dental composite?

[Guest guest]

I have not been able to find a composite that is BPA free that a

dentist would use. I have heard that holistore and Biocalex are BPA

free. I was told by my dentist that the company who makes Biocalex

does not list the ingredients, and thus it may actually contain it. I

really don't know. You can ask the dentist, but we were not able to

get anything BPA free. Anyone else?

>

> Appologies is this has been discussed before - Below is a link to the

> MSDS on what our dentist uses to fill teeth (not sealants). Does

> anyone know of a safer composite filling without BPA?

>

> (http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver?

> zzzzzzU0wEGFvdNdbg & ObHHdOjmzTE9 & HD9zvf4--)

>

> Thanks,

> Jackie

>

[Guest guest]

At my request my DS's dentist ordered holistore for a small cavity

that he had. It did take a long time for her to find the product and

get it delivered, but she was really good about accomodating us.

Elaine B

> >

> > Appologies is this has been discussed before - Below is a link to the

> > MSDS on what our dentist uses to fill teeth (not sealants). Does

> > anyone know of a safer composite filling without BPA?

> >

> > (http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver?

> > zzzzzzU0wEGFvdNdbg & ObHHdOjmzTE9 & HD9zvf4--)

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Jackie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Our daughter's dentist said that the composite she uses is BPA free.

It's called Espe Filtek Supreme Plus by 3M. So far I haven't been

able to verify if this is the case.

Olivia

>

> Appologies is this has been discussed before - Below is a link to

the

> MSDS on what our dentist uses to fill teeth (not sealants). Does

> anyone know of a safer composite filling without BPA?

>

> (http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver?

> zzzzzzU0wEGFvdNdbg & ObHHdOjmzTE9 & HD9zvf4--)

>

> Thanks,

> Jackie

>

[Guest guest]

According the MSDS it does contain Bisphenol.

Sorry...

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> >

> > Appologies is this has been discussed before - Below is a link to

> the

> > MSDS on what our dentist uses to fill teeth (not sealants). Does

> > anyone know of a safer composite filling without BPA?

> >

> > (http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver?

> > zzzzzzU0wEGFvdNdbg & ObHHdOjmzTE9 & HD9zvf4--)

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Jackie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the responses. Espe Filtek Supreme Plus by 3M is NOT BPA

free. From the MSDS:

SECTION 2: INGREDIENTS

Ingredient C.A.S. No. % by Wt

SILANE TREATED CERAMIC 444758-98-9 65 - 75

SILANE TREATED SILICA 248596-91-0 5 - 10

BISPHENOL A POLYETHYLENE GLYCOL DIETHER DIMETHACRYLATE

(BISEMA6)

41637-38-1 5 - 15

DIURETHANE DIMETHACRYLATE 72869-86-4 5 - 15

BISPHENOL A DIGLYCIDYL ETHER METHACRYLATE (BISGMA) 1565-94-2 1 - 10

TRIETHYLENE GLYCOL DIMETHACRYLATE (TEGDMA) 109-16-0 < 5

WATER 7732-18-5 < 2

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Jackie

> >

> > Appologies is this has been discussed before - Below is a link to

> the

> > MSDS on what our dentist uses to fill teeth (not sealants). Does

> > anyone know of a safer composite filling without BPA?

> >

> > (http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver?

> > zzzzzzU0wEGFvdNdbg & ObHHdOjmzTE9 & HD9zvf4--)

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Jackie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jackie, thank you SOOOO much, I had a feeling it was too good to be

true. Since our dd has precocious puberty this is obviously of utmost

importance to us.

olivia

> > >

> > > Appologies is this has been discussed before - Below is a link to

> > the

> > > MSDS on what our dentist uses to fill teeth (not sealants). Does

> > > anyone know of a safer composite filling without BPA?

> > >

> > > (http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver?

> > > zzzzzzU0wEGFvdNdbg & ObHHdOjmzTE9 & HD9zvf4--)

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Jackie

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jackie, can you repost the link, it doesn't seem to be working, or

tell me what the site is. Thanks so much, i want to have my ducks in

a row before calling the dentist.

oliiva

-- In , " Jackie Lombardo "

<ucanmailjackie@...> wrote:

>

> Thanks for the responses. Espe Filtek Supreme Plus by 3M is NOT BPA

> free. From the MSDS:

>

> SECTION 2: INGREDIENTS

> Ingredient C.A.S. No. % by Wt

> SILANE TREATED CERAMIC 444758-98-9 65 - 75

> SILANE TREATED SILICA 248596-91-0 5 - 10

> BISPHENOL A POLYETHYLENE GLYCOL DIETHER DIMETHACRYLATE

> (BISEMA6)

> 41637-38-1 5 - 15

> DIURETHANE DIMETHACRYLATE 72869-86-4 5 - 15

> BISPHENOL A DIGLYCIDYL ETHER METHACRYLATE (BISGMA) 1565-94-2 1 - 10

> TRIETHYLENE GLYCOL DIMETHACRYLATE (TEGDMA) 109-16-0 < 5

> WATER 7732-18-5 < 2

>

> http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver?

> hhhhhhCLcN3hcNCULQQQOqqNxTWhBn3Iqm3hd5V--)

>

> Jackie

>

>

> > >

> > > Appologies is this has been discussed before - Below is a link to

> > the

> > > MSDS on what our dentist uses to fill teeth (not sealants). Does

> > > anyone know of a safer composite filling without BPA?

> > >

> > > (http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver?

> > > zzzzzzU0wEGFvdNdbg & ObHHdOjmzTE9 & HD9zvf4--)

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Jackie

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

oh, i see you got it from the MSDS. Thanks again. olivia

> > >

> > > Appologies is this has been discussed before - Below is a link to

> > the

> > > MSDS on what our dentist uses to fill teeth (not sealants). Does

> > > anyone know of a safer composite filling without BPA?

> > >

> > > (http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver?

> > > zzzzzzU0wEGFvdNdbg & ObHHdOjmzTE9 & HD9zvf4--)

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Jackie

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Olivia,

If Jada's link below doesn't work, google " msds Espe Filtek Supreme

Plus by 3M " . Click on the 5th one down and it's the first on the

list.

Jackie

> > >

> > > Appologies is this has been discussed before - Below is a link

to

> > the

> > > MSDS on what our dentist uses to fill teeth (not sealants).

Does

> > > anyone know of a safer composite filling without BPA?

> > >

> > > (http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver?

> > > zzzzzzU0wEGFvdNdbg & ObHHdOjmzTE9 & HD9zvf4--)

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Jackie

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My dentist spoke with the guy who runs the lab that many holistic

dentists use for " chemical sensitivity testing " (don't know what the

proper term is). He said that even if a material is bpa free,

when " cured " , there is a chemical reaction that can leach some bpa,

but only for a brief period, which supposedly the body detoxifies.

Well, with a kid with precocious puberty whose detoxification system

is impaired, I'm really not sure what to do. My dentist uses

something called " Grandio " , from Germany. He likes it, among other

reasons, because it doesn't cause any sensitivity with his

patients. I'm going to check out its composition, if possible, but

based on what Walter from Clifford Consulting said, there's no

avoiding bpa. I also asked my dentist about Diamond Lite, and he

said a lot of patients developed sensitivities with it.

olivia

> > > >

> > > > Appologies is this has been discussed before - Below is a

link

> to

> > > the

> > > > MSDS on what our dentist uses to fill teeth (not sealants).

> Does

> > > > anyone know of a safer composite filling without BPA?

> > > >

> > > > (http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver?

> > > > zzzzzzU0wEGFvdNdbg & ObHHdOjmzTE9 & HD9zvf4--)

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Jackie

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> My dentist spoke with the guy who runs the lab that many holistic

> dentists use for " chemical sensitivity testing " (don't know what the

> proper term is). He said that even if a material is bpa free,

> when " cured " , there is a chemical reaction that can leach some bpa,

> but only for a brief period, which supposedly the body detoxifies.

> Well, with a kid with precocious puberty whose detoxification system

> is impaired, I'm really not sure what to do. My dentist uses

> something called " Grandio " , from Germany. He likes it, among other

> reasons, because it doesn't cause any sensitivity with his

> patients. I'm going to check out its composition, if possible, but

> based on what Walter from Clifford Consulting said, there's no

> avoiding bpa.

I also asked my dentist about Diamond Lite, and he

> said a lot of patients developed sensitivities with it.

I have a mouth full of Diamond Lite, & I'd agree that.

Don't go for Diamond lite unless you & yours like the taste of half baked burnt

plastic in

your mouth.

Maybe you look into " low " in BPA or indirect fillings?.

ie low 10-20% versus up to 80% ÊBisphenol A in some composites.

My blood test show reactivity to all the usual nasties. Filtex Supreme tested

fine. I do have

a few fillings with it, placed a few years ago, no problems except a rash the

day it was put

in. Although, I was breast feeding at the time & my 1 year old grew breast

tissue, may or

may not be related.

Look at all the plastic & toxins etc in our everyday environment!

B

[Guest guest]

Following up on this thread, I am looking for information on the

composite " Holistore " , as my young son needs a composite filling.

Someone had provided the website of the manufacturer of Holistore as

www.denmat.com. But when I go to their website, there is no product

called Holistore. They have a product called Geristore but it

contains fluoride.

Ideally looking for a composite that is BPA, aluminum, and fluoride

free.

Any information is so appreciated!

Daphne

> > > >

> > > > Appologies is this has been discussed before - Below is a

link to

> > > the

> > > > MSDS on what our dentist uses to fill teeth (not sealants).

Does

> > > > anyone know of a safer composite filling without BPA?

> > > >

> > > > (http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver?

> > > > zzzzzzU0wEGFvdNdbg & ObHHdOjmzTE9 & HD9zvf4--)

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Jackie

> > > >

> > >

> >

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