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Hi Ruth,

Just wanted to say good luck with your book. I couldn't take part in your

study as I am in Scotland but I hope you managed to get enough volunteers.

Good luck,

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Hi .

Xango IS a multi-level marketing co. I don't care much for them, but I didn't

want to spend more time and $ trying to find another juice that may not even

help me. So,I trusted Rosner's research and took the plunge. I don't SELL the

product, even though I had to sign up to receive it. But Velma Henken sells it @

360-384-3067.

So I don't care if people buy the juice at Xango or not. There MAY be another

co. out there that is reputable, but I haven't come across it in my web

searches. If YOU find a good quality mangosteen juice that you don't have to buy

from a multi-leveling co., please let me know. I'm just interested in getting

healthy, not selling someone's product.

Best wishes,

anne

<msadams@...> wrote:

Anne are you part of the multi-tiered marketing from Xango?

The reason I ask is I came across this webpage when researching Mangosteen

and whether it is worth trying or not.

http://chetday.com/mangosteen.htm

Is anyone else using Mangosteen and what do you really think of it? Is there

any truth under the hype or is it as the site implies just another way for

people to make money off of other's misery?

> Re: [ ] Good bye

>

> Hi, Jaye.

> I understand brain fog and extreme fatigue. I've been

> struggling with this for fourteen years. But I recently

> started taking a juice that not only cleared up my brain fog,

> it also eased all my pain and digestive issues as well.The

> product is called mangosteen juice. I think Costco sells it,

> but Rosner, author of " Top Ten Alternative and

> Conventional Treatments for Lyme, " recomended mangosteen

> juice from a company called Xango. It's really changed my

> life. If you'd like more info, please e-mail me, or call at

> 360-379-2970.

> I'm not a salesperson, just a fellow Lymie who discovered

> something truly liberating.

> My prayers are with you,

> anne

>

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I tried Mangosteen Juice awhile back but it didn't do anything or help me in any way. It tasted nasty too...

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[low dose naltrexone] mangosteen

hi sorry abiut the of topic but does anyone take mangosteenjuice to help releive symptons.

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I have used Magosteen for several years. I like it and put it in smoothies. I do believe it is useful for inflammation. However it is best used with other natural products. I can say I believe for a fact that it helps. It is expensive if used in the juice form. So I think you could try it but analyze for yourself. It doesn't work overnite so I would say try it for two weeks and see what you think. But again I don't think it would work by itself. Becky

From: Crystals MS TM LDN Website <angelindisguise67@...>Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] mangosteenlow dose naltrexone Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 10:16 PM

I tried Mangosteen Juice awhile back but it didn't do anything or help me in any way. It tasted nasty too...

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LDN_Users Group Owner

Diagnosed November 2004 with Secondary Progressive MS, Transverse Myelitis and an Advocate for LDN!! 2 years & 9 months on LDN with Skip's Pharmacy.... .

Crystal's MS,TM & LDN Website

Crystal's LDN Gift Shop

Crystal's LDN Support Group

Skip's Compounding Pharmacy

LDN Website

[low dose naltrexone] mangosteen

hi sorry abiut the of topic but does anyone take mangosteenjuice to help releive symptons.

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I tried Mangosteen Juice for awhile too. I didn't mind the taste. It

wasn't great, but it was tolerable. At first, I thought there were

some benefits, but later I stopped taking it and didn't see any

symptoms get worse. I guess it wasn't doing much after all. I bought

mine at Costco -- they seemed to have the best price.

Chrisie

>

> I tried Mangosteen Juice awhile back but it didn't do anything or

help me in any way. It tasted nasty too...

>

>

> Hugs & Blessings,

> Crystal

> LDN_Users Group Owner

>

> Diagnosed November 2004 with Secondary Progressive MS, Transverse

Myelitis and an Advocate for LDN!! 2 years & 9 months on LDN with

Skip's Pharmacy.....

>

>

> Crystal's MS,TM & LDN Website

>

> Crystal's LDN Gift Shop

> Crystal's LDN Support Group

>

>

>

> [low dose naltrexone] mangosteen

>

>

> hi sorry abiut the of topic but does anyone take mangosteen

> juice to help releive symptons.

>

>

>

>

> Skip's Compounding Pharmacy

>

> LDN Website

>

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Hi Liz!

I take 2 oz of juice morning, noon, afternoon, and night (8oz total). The

company (Xango) only recommends 6oz of juice, morning noon and night, for

chronic conditions. However, I found that I needed more to get the relief I

desperately wanted. After 4 months, I was able to cut down to 6oz, but I still

have to give myself some extra sometimes.

Two treatments to break down the mucosa that protects the Lyme and co-infections

are Veggie-zyme and Boluoke. Half hour later I take Zithromax and Minocycline.

Half hour later, I take a concoction of applesauce and saccro-b, Theralax,

Intestinal Rejuive, Intestinal Repair, and Bio-mins. One hour later, I take HMF

Toxi and pectin (the HMF Toxi sweeps away toxins while the pectin binds and gels

the toxins).

I don't have herx reactions, but I do feel better-- the ability to move and

breathe and keep a steady heartbeat are miraculous improvements for me. I don't

pretend to know if this will work for everyone, and I am well aware of the

cunning of this disease. Too many times I've gotten better, just to get worse

again.

I wish you the best of everything,

anne

From: Liz <lizgreene52@...>

Subject: [ ] Mangosteen

Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 1:36 PM

Sorry to hear about your troubles-

glad you are feeling better. Can you tell how you divide up the

mangosteen during the day - Do you drink all the 8 oz at once or do

you do something else? And can you elaborate on the other alternative

treatments you are using and what each is for.

> I've tried many alternative treatments and finally built up a

tolerance for oral ABX by shaving small portions off the pill, then

increasing if I could tolerate it. I had intermuscular shots of

Rocefin, but my herx reaction was violent and lasted for weeks.

> So I've tried many different oral ABX over the past 3 years. But

what's helped me the most was a product that I never expected help from.

> I had read (it's been over a decade since I could read)

Rosner's " Top Ten Conventional and Alternative Treatments for Lyme "

and found a chapter on a product called mangosteen juice. I went

directly to the company he said offered the best product, and although

I dislike multi-level companies and the price was steep ($25 a

bottle!), I tried it. After taking 8 oz. of juice for 4 days, the

shooting pains in my arms stopped. A week later, I could lift my arms

above my head and was able to dress myself for the 1st time in a long

time. After 4 months, the swelling in all my joints was gone.

> It turns out that this juice is the most powerful anti-inflammatory

in nature. It helps inflamation anywhere in the body.

> I don't know why ABX wasn't enough to help me out. It seems that

most alternative treatments I've tried have had little effect too. But

it seems that when I use ABX in conjunction with alternative remedies,

I get better results.

> My new LLMD has me on a regimen that uses mostly alternative

treatments to eat away the mucosa that protects Lyme and co-infection

clumps, treatments to restore the lining of my stomach to good health,

and treatments to bind up the toxins and sweep them out of the body

before they can disseminate.

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Hi Anne - Well you certainly take a bunch of stuff that I've never

heard of. It will be interesting to research all of this. I tried to

look up the brand of Mangosteen that you use and got a glorious

website but no label information. I was trying to see how it compared

to the Vitamin Shoppe Mangosteen that I found yesterday for about

$14.00/32 oz bottle. Plus, they are having a two for one sale in

September. Anyway I got a couple of bottles. I have been feeling

pretty good for the past couple of days, lots of energy. But I still

have that floater in my eye - a constant reminder that the lyme is

alive and kicking and waiting for the opportunity to multiply. I have

found in both chronic diseases that I am fighting is that how shall I

put this without sounding obvious - small improvements are good and

add up eventually to a cure, or as good as, even if it takes years. I

think you should try to make yourself feel as good as possible before

you attempt a herx, because they are truly awful and will make you

think you are right back where you started. And what I am finding is

that the lyme only divide every three or four weeks, so I should have

a week or two more of feeling good and then, probably, all hell will

bread loose again, but this time I will be prepared (as much as you

can be prepared for feeling & *)* & !).

-- In , anne koch <anne_faibrook@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Liz!

> I take 2 oz of juice morning, noon, afternoon, and night (8oz

total). The company (Xango) only recommends 6oz of juice, morning noon

and night, for chronic conditions. However, I found that I needed more

to get the relief I desperately wanted. After 4 months, I was able to

cut down to 6oz, but I still have to give myself some extra sometimes.

> Two treatments to break down the mucosa that protects the Lyme and

co-infections are Veggie-zyme and Boluoke. Half hour later I take

Zithromax and Minocycline. Half hour later, I take a concoction of

applesauce and saccro-b, Theralax, Intestinal Rejuive, Intestinal

Repair, and Bio-mins. One hour later, I take HMF Toxi and pectin (the

HMF Toxi sweeps away toxins while the pectin binds and gels the toxins).

> I don't have herx reactions, but I do feel better-- the ability to

move and breathe and keep a steady heartbeat are miraculous

improvements for me. I don't pretend to know if this will work for

everyone, and I am well aware of the cunning of this disease. Too many

times I've gotten better, just to get worse again.

> I wish you the best of everything,

> anne

>

>

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Robin-

Hi, can you please tell me more about Mangosteen juice? I've heard about it

before. I have floaters in my eyes. Where do you buy it, what it comes from,

how often you drink, etc.

-Sonya

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Re: [ ] Homeopathy- can it work on neuro lyme?

Dear Friend,

I do hope the appointment with the East coast Lyme doctor on May 5

will begin to give you some relief. Who is he/she, by the way?

In the meantime, I want to recommend a book on the program of Stress

Reduction at the U MAss Medical Center for people with all kinds of

physical problems:

“Full Catastrophe Living-- Using the Wisdom of Your Body and Mind to

Face Stress, Pain and Illness†by Jon Kabat-Zinn. It is helping me

cope with the stress of this illness and in the process I think is

triggering some inner healing mechanisms. I am able to face the fear,

uncertainty and

confusion of this disease as well as other prevalent stressors--

economic, social, etc.

You can get it used on line.

Wishing you healing soon,

On Apr 17, 2010, at 3:44 PM, y093666 wrote:

> Hi- I know this is off topic-

>

> I'm running out of options-

>

> I had fibro 1998 (started as bad headaches up back of head, then

> stiff neck etc) optic neurits 2006 with vision loss- illness

> shifted and has progressed rapidly to now MS type symptoms. MRI's

> are normals-Neuro says it is not MS. When I've tried to treat I

> have acclerated the disease. I just don't have herx's I have

> violent neurolgoical explosions. Did Zhang for 6 months 3 years ago

> and added buhner on top of it. Had neurological explosion to non

> functional for 4 months-went from having eye pain and brain fog to

> too many MS type symptoms to list plus excessive jerking/twitching-

> stopped herbs took 4 months to recover but not back to baselien was

> left with neuro symptoms I didn't have before.

>

> after 8mos- i slowly added cat's claw, devils claw, sarsparilla-

> was on for 1.5 years but still had decline.

> Then in November tried my first drugs for antifungal treatment 8

> days' of flagyl, 3 week difllucan- and some herb lyme tea-this sent

> me into hell. I went from not well (bad brain fog, eye pain ,weaker

> left side, jerking and some twitching) into Hell. Now been

> housebound in agony for 5 months now and not getting better. I know

> have unbelieveable nerve pain/irritation in my neck /brain ( on a

> prescription-for gaba pentin now!), left side numb, right arm numb,

> jerking and twitching like never before, total insomnia not

> relieved by meds, weak shaky neck, head jerking, eye presure, weird

> sensation on left side of head, weak legs and arms, dizzy sick,

> burning all over- pretty much in agony 7X24 and not getting better.

>

> I see a big name east coast lyme doc on May 5- BUT I " m terrified- I

> cannot physically take getting any sicker. How can I put more drugs

> in my body. I know I need to do something. I feel really toxic and

> hypersenstive to everything now. I used to be able to take all

> kinds of herbs. Can't take anything now.

>

> I consulted with a local naturopath and she suggested homeopathy in

> my case given how reactive to everything. And connected me with

> along time mentor /well known respected homeopath in the US.

>

> Do you think homeopathy can cure/reverse a neurologoical disease

> like late stage neuro lyme/ MS type illness?

>

> I don't know what to do anymore. I feel like I've done everything

> since onset of fibro 12 years ago and this illness has progessed so

> much. I eat allorganic gluten free, sugar free, whole foods diet,

> exercised (i did not now)every day for most of 12 years, massage

> weekly, acupncutre, rolfing, silver fillings out etc etc etc etc

>

> Also looking at a compnay in the US that offers stem cell

> treatments. Pretty scared about how ill I've become. Help!

>

>

>

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Hi - I just answered another post too - I get it from www.vitacost.com - I

think they're the cheapest. You could try out a bottle from your healthfood

store first, if they carry it. I drink the Ultra brand with 72 minerals added. I

drink a 1/2 oz in am and pm. I drank more in the beginning, slowly - read the

other post for details. - thx - Robin

Re: [ ] Homeopathy- can it work on neuro lyme?

Dear Friend,

I do hope the appointment with the East coast Lyme doctor on May 5

will begin to give you some relief. Who is he/she, by the way?

In the meantime, I want to recommend a book on the program of Stress

Reduction at the U MAss Medical Center for people with all kinds of

physical problems:

“Full Catastrophe Living-- Using the Wisdom of Your Body and Mind to

Face Stress, Pain and Illness†by Jon Kabat-Zinn. It is helping me

cope with the stress of this illness and in the process I think is

triggering some inner healing mechanisms. I am able to face the fear,

uncertainty and

confusion of this disease as well as other prevalent stressors--

economic, social, etc.

You can get it used on line.

Wishing you healing soon,

On Apr 17, 2010, at 3:44 PM, y093666 wrote:

> Hi- I know this is off topic-

>

> I'm running out of options-

>

> I had fibro 1998 (started as bad headaches up back of head, then

> stiff neck etc) optic neurits 2006 with vision loss- illness

> shifted and has progressed rapidly to now MS type symptoms. MRI's

> are normals-Neuro says it is not MS. When I've tried to treat I

> have acclerated the disease. I just don't have herx's I have

> violent neurolgoical explosions. Did Zhang for 6 months 3 years ago

> and added buhner on top of it. Had neurological explosion to non

> functional for 4 months-went from having eye pain and brain fog to

> too many MS type symptoms to list plus excessive jerking/twitching-

> stopped herbs took 4 months to recover but not back to baselien was

> left with neuro symptoms I didn't have before.

>

> after 8mos- i slowly added cat's claw, devils claw, sarsparilla-

> was on for 1.5 years but still had decline.

> Then in November tried my first drugs for antifungal treatment 8

> days' of flagyl, 3 week difllucan- and some herb lyme tea-this sent

> me into hell. I went from not well (bad brain fog, eye pain ,weaker

> left side, jerking and some twitching) into Hell. Now been

> housebound in agony for 5 months now and not getting better. I know

> have unbelieveable nerve pain/irritation in my neck /brain ( on a

> prescription-for gaba pentin now!), left side numb, right arm numb,

> jerking and twitching like never before, total insomnia not

> relieved by meds, weak shaky neck, head jerking, eye presure, weird

> sensation on left side of head, weak legs and arms, dizzy sick,

> burning all over- pretty much in agony 7X24 and not getting better.

>

> I see a big name east coast lyme doc on May 5- BUT I " m terrified- I

> cannot physically take getting any sicker. How can I put more drugs

> in my body. I know I need to do something. I feel really toxic and

> hypersenstive to everything now. I used to be able to take all

> kinds of herbs. Can't take anything now.

>

> I consulted with a local naturopath and she suggested homeopathy in

> my case given how reactive to everything. And connected me with

> along time mentor /well known respected homeopath in the US.

>

> Do you think homeopathy can cure/reverse a neurologoical disease

> like late stage neuro lyme/ MS type illness?

>

> I don't know what to do anymore. I feel like I've done everything

> since onset of fibro 12 years ago and this illness has progessed so

> much. I eat allorganic gluten free, sugar free, whole foods diet,

> exercised (i did not now)every day for most of 12 years, massage

> weekly, acupncutre, rolfing, silver fillings out etc etc etc etc

>

> Also looking at a compnay in the US that offers stem cell

> treatments. Pretty scared about how ill I've become. Help!

>

>

>

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Hi to the original poster here you asked about stem cell therapy treatments--I

know there are several who use plant stem cell therapy-- Sheehan is one

that comes to mind, but if you mean regular stem cell therapy like they are

doing now in Mexico, I learned last month that Dr. Klinghardt's clinic in

Seattle hopes to be able to offer this to their patients by sometime this fall

at a cost 3x less than anywhere else.  I've heard currently in Mexico it's 2600

and was given an estimate of $900 by Dr. K's assistant doc.  I think you would

need to be a patient first too.  The other docs there are highly trained by Dr.

K and I came away feeling I got alot of help and direction.  This therapy uses

one's own stem cells taken from a bone in a procedure compared to dental work so

there is no ethical problems.

Take care!

Debbie

Re: [ ] Homeopathy- can it work on neuro lyme?

Dear Friend,

I do hope the appointment with the East coast Lyme doctor on May 5

will begin to give you some relief. Who is he/she, by the way?

In the meantime, I want to recommend a book on the program of Stress

Reduction at the U MAss Medical Center for people with all kinds of

physical problems:

“Full Catastrophe Living-- Using the Wisdom of Your Body and Mind to

Face Stress, Pain and Illness†by Jon Kabat-Zinn. It is helping me

cope with the stress of this illness and in the process I think is

triggering some inner healing mechanisms. I am able to face the fear,

uncertainty and

confusion of this disease as well as other prevalent stressors--

economic, social, etc.

You can get it used on line.

Wishing you healing soon,

On Apr 17, 2010, at 3:44 PM, y093666 wrote:

& gt; Hi- I know this is off topic-

& gt;

& gt; I'm running out of options-

& gt;

& gt; I had fibro 1998 (started as bad headaches up back of head, then

& gt; stiff neck etc) optic neurits 2006 with vision loss- illness

& gt; shifted and has progressed rapidly to now MS type symptoms. MRI's

& gt; are normals-Neuro says it is not MS. When I've tried to treat I

& gt; have acclerated the disease. I just don't have herx's I have

& gt; violent neurolgoical explosions. Did Zhang for 6 months 3 years ago

& gt; and added buhner on top of it. Had neurological explosion to non

& gt; functional for 4 months-went from having eye pain and brain fog to

& gt; too many MS type symptoms to list plus excessive jerking/twitching-

& gt; stopped herbs took 4 months to recover but not back to baselien was

& gt; left with neuro symptoms I didn't have before.

& gt;

& gt; after 8mos- i slowly added cat's claw, devils claw, sarsparilla-

& gt; was on for 1.5 years but still had decline.

& gt; Then in November tried my first drugs for antifungal treatment 8

& gt; days' of flagyl, 3 week difllucan- and some herb lyme tea-this sent

& gt; me into hell. I went from not well (bad brain fog, eye pain ,weaker

& gt; left side, jerking and some twitching) into Hell. Now been

& gt; housebound in agony for 5 months now and not getting better. I know

& gt; have unbelieveable nerve pain/irritation in my neck /brain ( on a

& gt; prescription-for gaba pentin now!), left side numb, right arm numb,

& gt; jerking and twitching like never before, total insomnia not

& gt; relieved by meds, weak shaky neck, head jerking, eye presure, weird

& gt; sensation on left side of head, weak legs and arms, dizzy sick,

& gt; burning all over- pretty much in agony 7X24 and not getting better.

& gt;

& gt; I see a big name east coast lyme doc on May 5- BUT I " m terrified- I

& gt; cannot physically take getting any sicker. How can I put more drugs

& gt; in my body. I know I need to do something. I feel really toxic and

& gt; hypersenstive to everything now. I used to be able to take all

& gt; kinds of herbs. Can't take anything now.

& gt;

& gt; I consulted with a local naturopath and she suggested homeopathy in

& gt; my case given how reactive to everything. And connected me with

& gt; along time mentor /well known respected homeopath in the US.

& gt;

& gt; Do you think homeopathy can cure/reverse a neurologoical disease

& gt; like late stage neuro lyme/ MS type illness?

& gt;

& gt; I don't know what to do anymore. I feel like I've done everything

& gt; since onset of fibro 12 years ago and this illness has progessed so

& gt; much. I eat allorganic gluten free, sugar free, whole foods diet,

& gt; exercised (i did not now)every day for most of 12 years, massage

& gt; weekly, acupncutre, rolfing, silver fillings out etc etc etc etc

& gt;

& gt; Also looking at a compnay in the US that offers stem cell

& gt; treatments. Pretty scared about how ill I've become. Help!

& gt;

& gt;

& gt;

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